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00:26:52 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:26:57 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-134-180.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:32:53 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.20.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 00:32:54 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@189.58.20.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [] 00:39:27 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:49:50 *** skrzyp [~skrzyp@sundance.6irc.net] has joined #openttd 00:57:22 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:01:27 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.238.207] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC 1.9.3 Disequilibrium http://www.adiirc.com/] 01:39:14 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:51:06 <NGC3982> http://i.imgur.com/czIxhpB.png 01:51:13 <NGC3982> I have no idea what's going on here 01:51:18 <NGC3982> The oil trucks are not unloading 01:52:00 <NGC3982> The orders are to fill up (oil) at the oil site, and to drop at the refinary 01:52:05 <NGC3982> But it ..just doesn't. 01:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause> usually, because you have a producing industry near the dropoff station, so the vehicles load stuff they cannot unload anywhere 01:54:33 <Eddi|zuHause> use "unload and leave empty" orders 01:55:35 <NGC3982> I see, but that results in the oil ending up on the station platform. 01:56:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6B768.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:57:59 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6B768.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 01:59:20 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, because that oil came from that station in the first place 02:00:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the other option is you didn't cover the accepting tile of the refinery (there are very few) 02:06:01 <NGC3982> Yes, true. 02:06:12 * NGC3982 fixed it. 02:37:38 *** Djohaal_ [~Djohaal@189.58.20.14.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:45:35 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.238.207] has joined #openttd 02:58:36 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-53-132.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 03:04:47 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:06:05 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:12:38 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:44:29 *** fjb is now known as Guest4235 03:44:31 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:52:03 *** Guest4235 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:55:28 <Flygon> Does anyone here ever end up building massive railway netwoorks 03:55:45 <Flygon> But never bother building stations or signalling because they want to 'finish' the line? 04:25:18 <Supercheese> I usually build stations as I go 04:25:31 <Supercheese> Start at one town, build line to town 2, build station, build line to town 3... 04:26:37 <glx> first step is usually the station because you can kill many trees while building the line ;) 04:28:42 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:58:36 <Flygon> Hmm 04:58:37 <Flygon> I see 04:58:50 <Flygon> I tend to avoid building the station first in case I need to change the route 05:06:51 *** Zarkhgard [~Zarkhgard@151.236.21.167] has joined #openttd 05:25:00 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:28:53 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 481 seconds] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD430F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67F63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:03:25 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:09:02 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:05:39 <dihedral> greetings 08:06:52 *** Myhorta 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<Flygon> I tend to avoid building the station first in case I need to change the route <-- i do it the opposite, building the stations first ensures that your town rating is high enough, then you can freely terraform 12:53:45 <Flygon> Hmm 12:53:55 <Flygon> I do suppose you go broke far less easily than me 12:54:10 <Flygon> I tend to build up the town popularity rates by building trams 12:54:18 <Flygon> I build an extensive Tram network in every town 12:54:29 <Flygon> Use buses (when it's practical enough) in outer suburbs 12:54:43 <Flygon> And then drive the trainline through slowly 12:54:49 <Flygon> As I build money to bribe and whatnot 12:55:00 <Flygon> I end up with games where Trams make a substantial amount of $$$ 12:55:05 <Flygon> Instead of being just supplimentaru 12:55:20 <Flygon> In my current game 12:55:26 <Flygon> Trams make 2x the income of trains 12:55:27 <Flygon> But 12:55:37 <Flygon> Most of my rail lines aren't operational yet due to not being built 12:55:43 <Flygon> As in, not fully built 12:55:44 <Flygon> Only... 12:55:45 <Eddi|zuHause> well i put stations on the edge of the town, and feed it with trams 12:55:56 <Flygon> 2 railway lines are operational 12:56:18 <Flygon> Compared to every town with a planned station (and feeder system) having a tramline (suburbs of London, really) 12:56:29 <Flygon> At least 30 suburbs with a Tram system 12:56:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i build my network incrementally. start with two towns, and add another one, or sometimes two, if they form a line 12:57:46 <Flygon> I do normally do that 12:57:53 <Flygon> But I ended up choosing a UK scenario 12:57:56 <Flygon> And... well 12:57:56 <Eddi|zuHause> i generally don't use the tree cheat 12:58:02 <Flygon> This's London we're talking about 12:58:10 <Flygon> The Tram profit alone is worth a fortune 12:58:19 <Flygon> Even starting in 1830 13:10:22 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 13:12:44 *** Aristide [~quassel@ALyon-156-1-134-180.w90-14.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping 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when I do build the new line 13:27:26 <Flygon> Because there'd be too much congestion 13:27:26 <Flygon> Cue reeengineering big bits of line for a flyove 13:27:26 <Flygon> flyover* 13:27:55 <Eddi|zuHause> like i build a line from A to B via C, and in C i plan the station as a crossover with a line from D to E via C, but either D-C or C-E never get built 13:28:51 <Eddi|zuHause> of course, reengineering happens as well, but that was not the problem ;) 13:37:37 <fjb> Moin 13:38:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:41:39 <Flygon> Menta 14:02:17 <Flygon> Okay 14:02:18 <Flygon> Excellent 14:02:24 <Flygon> Got the second urban line completed 14:02:49 <Flygon> The Londoners are going to punch me in the face for making almost all the line terminuses Balloon Loops 14:11:11 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 14:29:53 *** Zarkhgard^ [~Zarkhgard@151.236.21.167] has joined #openttd 14:36:48 *** Zarkhgard 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closed the connection] 18:30:14 *** Zarkhgard^ [~Zarkhgard@151.236.21.167] has quit [] 18:37:17 <frosch123> LordAro: any suggestion for fs#5952? 18:41:44 *** aleistermarley [~kvirc@188-23-72-149.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 18:42:00 *** aleistermarley|2 [~kvirc@188-23-72-149.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 18:43:56 * LordAro looks 18:44:10 <LordAro> :D 18:44:42 <LordAro> closed: worksasintended 18:44:43 <LordAro> :p 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26426 trunk/src/lang/polish.txt (2014-03-24 18:45:17 UTC) 18:45:25 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:26 <DorpsGek> polish - 3 changes by McZapkie 18:49:04 <frosch123> added a dictionary link 18:49:51 <LordAro> huh, wasn't aware that you didn't come up with it yourself :p 18:50:05 <frosch123> i learned it from rb 18:50:14 <frosch123> but google knows it in many places 18:53:00 <frosch123> isn't flash considered dead? 18:53:11 <frosch123> why would anyone port ottd to it? 18:55:29 <Supercheese> Because they can? 18:59:11 <peter1138> Someone did it? 19:00:07 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.61.54] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:00:20 <frosch123> apparently 19:00:35 <frosch123> same llvm cross compiler approach as for the javascript port 19:00:39 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 19:01:01 <frosch123> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=70227 19:01:31 <frosch123> but i thought javascript is the new cool kid in town (again), while noone uses flash anymore 19:11:41 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 19:13:06 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:30 *** Lacsap [~Lacsap@modemcable157.188-82-70.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [] 19:13:38 * Wolf01 waves hello o/ 19:13:58 <maddy_> can I rebuild a river which I accidentally broke with land tools? 19:14:47 <maddy_> canals? at least it looks the same, guess that is ok :) 19:14:57 *** Lacsap 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joined #openttd 20:38:51 <Pulec> but why, with the amount of money tycoon is making you could build a spaceship 20:42:38 <CommanderZ> Hey guys, I'm looking at planetmaker's suggestions on distant join station behavior from https://bugs.openttd.org/task/5951 20:42:38 <CommanderZ> Hey guys, I'm looking at planetmaker's suggestions on distant join station behavior from FS#5951 20:42:47 <CommanderZ> I have a quick question - when I build a station which adjoin to two other stations without holding CTRL, I get the error "adjoining to more than one station...". Why not pop up the station choice dialog instead? 20:46:05 <frosch123> that's what fs#4185 refers to 20:46:21 <frosch123> it should ignore opponents stations, and ask you if there are two of your company 20:49:34 <CommanderZ> And I assume it should only display stations in the immediate vicinity if distant join is disabled 20:51:01 <frosch123> no idea about that 20:51:29 <frosch123> may be confusing as well, if there are different join-list windows 20:52:22 <CommanderZ> There can only be one, the previous one gets closed if a new one is to be opened 20:52:58 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 20:53:09 <frosch123> hmm, didn't the join station window list the stations sorted by distance anyway? 20:53:17 <frosch123> or was that only a patch or suggestion? 20:53:37 <CommanderZ> Yeah, it seems to do that currently 20:55:37 <frosch123> i guess listing all would be more consistent and less magical 20:56:07 <frosch123> also less work :p 20:56:51 <CommanderZ> So if you choose a station too far away, it fails with an error box later? 20:57:34 <frosch123> i would hope that the window already today only lists stations which are joinable 20:58:56 <frosch123> [21:49] <CommanderZ> And I assume it should only display stations in the immediate vicinity if distant join is disabled <- anyway, i was refering to that 20:59:37 <frosch123> i think there should only be one join window for distant or adjacent join, no separate windows 21:00:30 <frosch123> basically, non-distant join joins with adjacent station if it is uniquely defined 21:00:53 <frosch123> in all ohther cases the window should popup independent of whether you enabled or disabled distant join 21:00:58 <frosch123> or whetheer you pressed ctrl 21:03:31 <frosch123> hmm. oh... were you refering to the advanced setting for disabling distant join? 21:03:51 <frosch123> then it may indeed make sense to only list adjacent ones :p 21:04:05 <CommanderZ> Yes. But now I realized there is not only an option to enable/ distant join, but also a setting to enable/disable adjoining stations 21:04:20 <CommanderZ> The plot thickens and the number of cases to consider grows exponentially :/ 21:04:41 <frosch123> oi, maybe we can get rid of the latter one 21:08:34 <frosch123> there are reasons to forbid distant join since some people consider it cheating 21:08:48 <frosch123> but i have not heard of anyone wanting to forbid more stations 21:11:50 <V453000> sounds pretty pointless to me 21:17:26 <CommanderZ> Hmm, this setting seems to only have been introduced with 0.6.0, so it is no prehistoric thing. I wonder what the reasoning was. 21:18:26 <frosch123> what? adjacent_stations should be pre-historic 21:18:33 <frosch123> distant_join_stations may be 0.6 21:19:54 <frosch123> adjacent_stations is r9905, distant_join_stations is r14919 21:20:11 <frosch123> ok, so adjacent_stations is indeed 0.6 :p 21:20:17 <frosch123> and distant_join is 0.7 21:33:41 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.41.238.207] has joined #openttd 21:34:24 <frosch123> night 21:34:26 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f746fdc.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:36:29 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A8AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:40:09 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.41.238.207] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:16 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 21:52:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1A8AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:57:44 *** APTX [~APTX@2001:470:1f0b:1a9d:216:36ff:fe70:d359] has joined #openttd 21:58:01 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:07:24 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 22:09:22 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-111-87-15.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:11:39 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:14:25 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A335.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 22:20:07 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 22:27:11 *** CommanderZ [CommanderZ@b.clients.kiwiirc.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 22:38:05 *** bdavenport [~davenport@chronos.rpi.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:22:37 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has quit [] 23:25:50 <Wolf01> 'night 23:25:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:31:37 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out]