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00:26:12 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:40:53 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 01:14:28 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:21:45 <supermop> is there no undo in pixel tool? 01:23:20 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 01:38:39 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6778C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:41:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6778C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 01:55:41 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:57:55 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.181.230.7] has quit [Quit: get satisfied!  :: ««« (AdiIRC) »»» www.adiirc.com ::] 02:03:19 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:07:50 *** ST2 [~ST2@bl20-236-87.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #openttd 02:11:48 *** xT2 [~ST2@2.81.245.141] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:11:48 *** ST2 is now known as xT2 02:54:10 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:57:57 <supermop> would a tram look stupid if it was longer than 1/2 a tile (non-articulated) 03:01:23 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:01:33 <Eddi|zuHause> who would get the idea of vehicles longer than 1/2 tile! 03:03:33 <supermop> you are a bad influence, eddi 03:03:44 <supermop> although 03:04:06 <Eddi|zuHause> it was actually not even my idea, i just improved it 03:04:36 <supermop> what is to stop me from making it a three part vehicle, with the front and rear bogies as front and rear sections, and the body as the center? 03:05:39 <supermop> the tramways are so narrow compared to rails though, maybe it would look like it was clipping houses in turns 03:06:31 <Eddi|zuHause> well you could copy the CETS code 1:1 in that aspect 03:06:58 <Eddi|zuHause> the main reason i introduced the additional angles is curves 03:07:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and the slicing is supposed to help with glitches 03:07:28 <supermop> trams spend little time in curves thoug 03:07:54 <Eddi|zuHause> that doesn't mean you can leave it unsolved 03:08:07 <supermop> trying t throw together a quick tram set of 5 or so trams using pixel tool for graphics 03:08:36 <supermop> it might be easier to just use more 'standard' lengths 03:08:54 <Eddi|zuHause> probably 03:09:49 <supermop> but the longest vehicle is 15m, earlier vehicles are 14m or less and later are articulated, so i want to emphasize the length of this one somehow 03:10:20 <Eddi|zuHause> then make the others shorter 03:10:34 <supermop> 8/8 for this and 7/8 for the others might look ok 03:11:05 <Eddi|zuHause> in CETS, 16m is a 8lu vehicle, and 14m 7lu, although the scale is probably slightly smaller than usual 03:11:20 <supermop> hmm 03:12:19 <supermop> i was thinking 3m = 2/8 but i guess that would leave the trams comically large compared to trains 03:12:21 *** lucky_ [~joel@justice.zanity.net] has left #openttd [] 03:12:49 <Eddi|zuHause> well the "normal" vehicles have heavy length distortion usually 03:12:54 <supermop> yeh 03:13:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd refer to GermanRV as comparison, but that has some nasty scale issues in itself 03:13:49 <Eddi|zuHause> in general, it seems to be a 24m scale 03:14:02 <supermop> also i cant think too much about RV, there are too many extant problems... i just have one more week left of not working 50hrs a week and thought i'd throw together a small set to play with the trams outside my window 03:14:06 <Eddi|zuHause> CETS uses 32m scale 03:14:12 <supermop> 32/tile? 03:14:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 03:14:48 <Eddi|zuHause> 24m would be your 3m per 2lu 03:20:40 <supermop> ah hmm ok there is another tram that is 16m 04:07:24 *** M3Henry [~Thunderbi@152.78.171.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:21:10 *** heinrikter [~quassel@0001c91a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 04:42:59 <supermop> can someone look to see if my server is visible? i am not sure if i forwarded ports correctly 04:52:28 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6778C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC676F0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:12:34 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:23:53 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 05:32:34 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 05:40:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C36E.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 05:46:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6BBBE.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:09:43 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 07:25:05 <Flygon> Hmm 07:25:12 <Flygon> OTTD keeps stalling randomly 07:29:29 <Pikka> more flap 07:33:38 <Flygon> I don't flap 07:33:39 <supermop> can either of you guys see my server? 07:33:39 <Flygon> I buzz! 07:33:54 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 07:38:11 <planetmaker> supermop, servers.openttd.org 07:40:33 *** heinrikter [~quassel@0001c91a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:40:48 <supermop> answer seems to be no 07:42:08 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has joined #openttd 07:47:57 *** chrswk^ [~ch.rswk.n@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 07:48:09 *** chrswk^ [~ch.rswk.n@213.188.53.45] has quit [] 08:38:39 <supermop> good xkcd today 09:02:01 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:46:20 *** Skasi [~chatzilla@chello084114155197.5.15.tuwien.teleweb.at] has joined #openttd 09:47:29 *** fjb is now known as Guest5216 09:47:30 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:48:13 <Skasi> Hello. I just downloaded and installed the new 1.4.0 windows7 64bit version of ottd (after uninstalling the old version) and get an error about missing sprites in the base graphics set upon start. 09:49:07 <maddy_> you should update your graphics set, you can do it via the in-game 'online content' choice 09:50:44 <Skasi> Thanks! However, shouldn't a stable come with up-to-date base graphics? 09:54:13 *** Guest5216 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:54:42 <maddy_> I think the base game comes with no graphics set at all, you have to choose which one to use (original ttd graphics, or opengfx, or something else) 09:55:17 <Pinkbeast> maddy_: But I think Skasi's contention is (rightly) that it would be more sensible for it to come with a working OGFX 09:56:15 <maddy_> well, the devs can answer to that 10:00:38 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 10:05:13 <Flygon> You know you're causing issues with engine limitations when you're building ship docks simply because you're hitting the RV limit... 10:25:09 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.181.230.7] has joined #openttd 10:26:00 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.181.230.7] has quit [] 10:26:27 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.181.230.7] has joined #openttd 10:27:19 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 10:51:17 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:22 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:01:35 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:53 <planetmaker> Flygon, you got more than 5k RV? 11:20:04 <Flygon> I'm getting there 11:20:06 <Flygon> Most of it Trams 11:20:31 <planetmaker> insane :) 11:20:36 <Flygon> Nah 11:20:45 <Flygon> It's just that this London is a big city 11:20:47 <Flygon> it's 1948 11:20:56 <Flygon> And the passengers can't get a ride x.x 11:21:10 <Flygon> Even with Very Poor ratings, I'm still getting overload 11:21:43 <Flygon> The other issue is Tram Station clogging tho :( 11:26:24 *** Devroush [~dennis@dD5765BAC.access.telenet.be] has joined #openttd 11:28:26 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 11:44:35 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has joined #openttd 11:51:54 <supermop> How tall should a tram be? 11:52:24 <supermop> 32Lx10Wx12H seems too stubby 11:52:57 <planetmaker> usual widths is 8... 11:57:06 <Skasi> where I live older trams are around 2 times as high as they are width 11:57:23 <Flygon> What's .at? 11:57:36 <Flygon> Ah, Austria 11:57:41 <Flygon> You guys use NG Trams, right? 11:58:30 <Skasi> oh look, the first picture on wikipedia's tram article features the tram I was talking about 11:58:33 <Flygon> Ah, nope. SG! 11:58:38 <Skasi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tram all the way to the right 11:58:44 <Flygon> Those're VERY skinny SG Trams 11:58:53 <Flygon> I'm used to Trams in my area being very fat 11:59:45 <Skasi> what's ng and sg? 11:59:46 <Flygon> http://www.reocities.com/professoryao/B1-2001.jpg Old photo 12:00:02 <Skasi> hah thats how the buses look :) 12:00:28 <Flygon> The whole box shape thing (and practically filling up the entire loading gauge) might just make it seem fat though 12:01:13 <Flygon> I'm a tad surprised that there's no Melbourne Tram set... but on the other hand 12:01:17 <Flygon> Our Trams are very boring 12:01:48 <Skasi> hongkong has funny trams too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HKtram.JPG 12:02:44 <Flygon> Shame nowhere else took DD Trams seriously :( 12:03:37 <Flygon> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Hobart_trams_and_trolley_bus.jpg Australia used to have DD Tras 12:03:47 <Flygon> But only really in Hobart, and other very isolated networks :( 12:04:14 <Skasi> it probably all depends on population density and time of introduction, with non-planned trams being skinnier than those of cities that were designed for them in the first place 12:04:16 <Flygon> (note how they practically built a standard Tram boddy and basically went "Eh... nuff room for some seats on the roof" 12:04:51 <Skasi> hehe yeah 12:05:16 <Skasi> I guess theyre rare cause of winter 12:05:35 <Skasi> take hongkong and australia, there's not too much snow in either of them I think? 12:05:48 <Flygon> Yeah 12:05:56 <Flygon> Only snows in Victoria, Tasmania, and South-East NSW 12:06:13 <Skasi> though, hongkong dds are closed so that wouldnt be a big problem hmm 12:06:26 <Flygon> (Tasmania has Hobart, Victoria has Melbourne (but it only snows in East Victoria... sometimes North-East), New South Wales has Sydney) 12:06:28 <Skasi> well at least the versions linked 12:06:45 <Flygon> What's freaky about Hobart's former DD network 12:06:53 <Flygon> Is that it was DESIGNED for DD Trams 12:07:00 <Flygon> ...on a Narrow Gauge network 12:07:05 <Flygon> :D 12:07:24 <Flygon> http://tdu.to/a9581/Hobart_Tram_49_2.jpg Single bogie DD NG Trams 12:07:26 <Flygon> Insane! 12:07:43 <Skasi> "buy security bonds" haha 12:07:45 <Flygon> (that incident only happened because all the Trams brakes failed) 12:07:53 <Flygon> (it was during WWII) 12:08:07 <Skasi> "buy secure-tram bonds" 12:08:12 <Flygon> (it was going downhill... only thing they could do was just ding the bell loudly >_<) 12:08:49 <Skasi> "help keep prices down - and while at it, help keep trams on rails too!" 12:09:30 <Flygon> But, yeah 12:09:40 <Flygon> Sadly, Hobart tore down their network by the early 60s :( 12:09:53 <Flygon> As did Sydney (Sydney had the world's largest individual network) 12:10:15 <Flygon> Sydney's network was amazing... so sad. The residents were rightfully VERY angry with how it was torn down, too. 12:12:04 <Flygon> Victoria also got hit hard... Geelong's network was completely ripped down, Ballarat barely retained a small part of one line, Bendigo is very lucky to have what little network it has, and Melbourne's very very lucky to've actually been constructing new parts of network in the 50s and 60s... 12:12:14 <Flygon> But Melbourne also had some of the most boring rollingstock 12:12:51 <Flygon> Hobart had the DDs, Adelaide had the EMU Trams, Sydney... er, well, they were also "Boring but Practical", but the R-class was a pretty nice design 12:13:01 <Flygon> But one thing that annoys me with OTTD Tram sets 12:13:09 <Flygon> Is that they don't break 40-50km/h in the 30s to 50s 12:13:27 <Flygon> irl Melbourne, Sydney, and Adelaide? Trams breaking 80km/h in service. 12:14:38 <Flygon> (one neat PCC/W-class Tram hybrid in Melbourne even reportedly broke 110km/h in the 1950s during testing! Not bad for what boiled down to a PCC car that's basically half-veryoutdated equipment!) 12:14:55 <Flygon> (I say reportedly, though. There's no official record) 12:15:12 <Flygon> Sorry for the foaming x.x 12:15:37 <Flygon> Just always been interested in the history of Tram transport 12:16:02 <Flygon> Really the real first method of going around that didn't involve being stuck behind a slow horse-and-cart 12:16:11 <Flygon> In urban areas, that is 12:16:32 <Flygon> A train can't just be plopped on the street and go 'round like it's no deal... you gotta be minaturized and subtle! 12:21:36 <Skasi> yuppers 12:21:44 <Skasi> small things are always cute :) 12:27:30 <Flygon> Though, Melbourne's Cable Trams are almost adorably tiny 12:28:22 <Flygon> http://www.cable-car-guy.com/images/mel_cable_dummy_and_trailer_at_bylands_tram_museum_200602.jpg It's tiiiiiny 12:29:23 <Flygon> The trailer too! 12:29:34 <Flygon> They're like boxes, thanks to their width! 12:31:22 <supermop> Flygon: i asked because i am putting a basic thing together over the next wee 12:31:23 <supermop> k 12:31:36 <Flygon> x3 Sorry 12:31:41 <Flygon> I just kinda blabber on easy 12:31:49 <supermop> aim is just what is rolling right now 12:32:10 <supermop> with past models and other liveries as stretch goals/ for later 12:32:14 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 12:33:19 <supermop> besides W class can get you started in the 20s, with a good complement all the way up through E class today 12:33:37 <supermop> so a functional set can be made with only current stock 12:34:02 <Flygon> Ah, I didn't know you were Victorian 12:34:19 <supermop> Z class seem to be the longest non-articulated models to have run so thaats my benchmark 12:34:30 <Flygon> Regardless of the specific type, I know a lot of Trams, not just in Australia, could easily run over 80km/h, even before 1920 12:34:37 <Flygon> Er, 60km/h 12:34:40 <Celestar> goodday 12:34:41 <Flygon> 8 was a typo x.x 12:34:43 <supermop> i am not, just moved here two months ago 12:34:54 <Flygon> Ey, mate. You're Victorian enough. 12:36:03 <supermop> so goal for tonight is to decide whether the z class at 16m is 8/8 or 10/8 12:36:27 <Flygon> That's a bloody good question 12:36:50 <supermop> and then to decide if 15m trams are drawn as essentially the same length or noticably shorter 12:37:25 <Flygon> Well 12:37:32 <Flygon> If you play at close zoom all the time like I do 12:37:37 <Flygon> Due to network refining 12:37:38 <supermop> if the trams are cartoonish and stubby (which they must be to some degree) then maybe W, Z, and A are all the same 12:37:41 <Flygon> 1px is noticable 12:38:36 <supermop> but if i try to be a bit more detailed, i'd like to have the scale difference 12:38:49 <Flygon> Hmm... 12:39:05 <Flygon> Well, it's best I try not to answer. I'm not very involved with GRF work x: 12:39:46 <supermop> 10/8 is a bit more complex to code but doable 12:40:07 * Flygon nod 12:40:16 <supermop> but long skinny trams just might look bad on the openttd tramways and corners 12:40:42 <Flygon> That too x.x 12:45:27 *** heinrikter [~quassel@109.201.154.209] has joined #openttd 12:46:39 *** heinrikter [~quassel@0001c91a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:09:05 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:1e4b:d6ff:feca:6b69] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:09:34 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:23:23 *** Celestar [~Celestar@mnch-5d8764f9.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 13:46:57 <supermop> i wonder whhat height of pantograph/trolley pole should be 13:48:45 <V453000> 666 13:48:47 <Flygon> Have it vary with the height of the overhead wire 13:48:52 <Flygon> :B 13:49:28 <Flygon> Seriously though, might just be easiest to copy from that eGTVRS set (or however it's acronymed) 13:58:23 <supermop> ok bed 13:59:35 *** M3Henry [~Thunderbi@152.78.171.134] has joined #openttd 13:59:38 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-236.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 14:05:18 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-168-244-115.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 14:08:54 <planetmaker> eGRVTS = Extended Generic Road Vehicle and Tram Set :) 14:18:14 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 14:24:52 *** montalvo [~montalvo@ip68-108-148-173.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #openttd 14:32:59 *** perk11 [~perk11@broadband-46-242-13-101.nationalcablenetworks.ru] has joined #openttd 14:46:04 *** Belugas [~belugas@00011985.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: On snow, everyone can follow your traces] 14:57:10 *** linuxman [~oftc-webi@c-69-143-146-42.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:08:53 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:28:53 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:30:04 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 15:36:52 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 15:41:18 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 15:44:19 *** Pensacola [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:46:15 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d011205.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 15:46:34 <__ln___> http://hkkl.fi/~hekkuli/spora/20140402_003.jpg 16:09:23 <peter1138> Errr... what? 16:11:34 <__ln___> because http://hkkl.fi/~hekkuli/spora/20140402_005.jpg 16:12:38 <__ln___> they say it was empty and no one was hurt 16:16:29 <Pinkbeast> Bet that taxi driver browned himself tho' ;-) 16:17:00 <__ln___> bet that taxi wasn't there when it happened :) 16:18:14 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:21:17 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@zeroshell2.strw.leidenuniv.nl] has quit [Quit: bbl] 16:26:15 <Eddi|zuHause> wtf? how fast was this thing going around that corner? and why didn't it tear down the catenary? 16:26:42 <Pinkbeast> The pantograph just presses up against the wire, surely, no reason it should tear it down 16:27:36 <frosch123> maybe it was hit by a running unicorn 16:27:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: it leaves the path of the catenary, then the pantograph rises, and by the time it passes the catenary of the neighbouring track... BOOM 16:29:09 <Pinkbeast> But the panto's got edges that curve down so if it hasn't had time to rise too far, it can scoop up the next wire, maybe? 16:31:24 <Pikka> pretty good parking job though. 16:31:51 <Pinkbeast> Definitely, if you're playing Grand Theft Strassenbahn 16:35:28 <rubidium> it also depends on the height of the catenary and the maximum height the pantograph can rise to 16:36:20 * rubidium has seen the images of a failing pantograph height limiter at a small powerless section 16:36:48 <Eddi|zuHause> well modern pantographs certainly have detection mechanisms for when the catenary is gone (instead of slowly changing height), but the question is how fast they react 16:36:49 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@5070A0D5.static.ziggozakelijk.nl] has joined #openttd 16:37:52 <Eddi|zuHause> and surely, a few cm more or less height make a difference 16:38:09 <rubidium> in this case it's more likely that the catenary's height is close to the maximum reach of the panto, so the angled edges push the wire up 16:39:09 <rubidium> on the other hand... 16:39:29 <rubidium> looks like the panto was weaker than the wire as it seems to have snapped 16:40:06 <Pinkbeast> I wondered if it had just been lowered after the comedy ensued. 16:41:54 <Eddi|zuHause> a properly lowered pantograph would not look like this 16:47:39 <Eddi|zuHause> "the april's fools joke of netzpolitik.org was cancelled, because the real NSA news over the past years were already too obscure" 16:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> "they fear that any joke they would make about it, could be exceeded by reality soon" 16:56:40 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B00C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:18:14 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d110-32-11-122.rdl800.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:45:19 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26441 trunk/src/lang/norwegian_bokmal.txt (2014-04-02 17:45:12 UTC) 17:45:20 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 2 changes by kristoffer_hh 17:58:03 *** Polleke [~quassel@h220216.upc-h.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:58:18 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 17:58:29 *** triad [~triad@5-13-83-231.residential.rdsnet.ro] has joined #openttd 18:04:33 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:04:55 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:07:22 <andythenorth> o/ 18:07:34 <V453000> hy 18:09:52 <andythenorth> why acceleration setting? 18:11:25 *** falkooo [~oftc-webi@p4FD894F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:12:26 <falkooo> hi i played loang ago the 0.7 and sa 1.4 is out is there a list of changes in the last years? 18:12:46 <V453000> acceleration setting? 18:12:59 <andythenorth> V453000: forums 18:13:01 <V453000> the original/realistic shit? 18:14:11 <V453000> me doesnt see it 18:16:20 <frosch123> falkooo: https://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD_Release_History 18:19:10 *** Celestar1 [~Celestar@mnch-5d872640.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:02 <andythenorth> big truck http://www.commercialmotor.com/big-lorry-blog/making-moves-in-mining-biglorryblog-spots-this-great-you-tube-video 18:22:37 <andythenorth> 225t payload 18:23:08 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:25:28 *** Celestar [~Celestar@mnch-5d8764f9.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:25:47 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:23 <falkooo> thx 18:29:39 *** falkooo [~oftc-webi@p4FD894F1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 18:38:21 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:38:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:42:16 *** Zuu [~Zuu@212.112.47.66] has joined #openttd 18:43:37 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3FBF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:45:18 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has quit [] 18:55:37 <andythenorth> letâs make things! 19:01:59 <Zuu> make things 19:02:00 <Zuu> :-) 19:02:45 <andythenorth> Zuu: make GS! 19:02:51 * andythenorth had a look at GS 19:02:55 <andythenorth> looks like real programming 19:03:00 <andythenorth> not andythenorth programming 19:05:31 <andythenorth> Zuu: can I have a NCG with 6 cargos? o_O 19:06:01 <Zuu> It needs 3 more medal names and some for loops are probably hard coded at 3 medals. 19:06:33 <andythenorth> I had a look myself, and it did look hard coded in some places 19:09:32 <andythenorth> Gold, silver, bronze, brass, steel, tin 19:16:40 *** Natio [~Natio@x1-6-e0-46-9a-98-35-7a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #openttd 19:18:09 <frosch123> usually it is extended on the other end :) 19:18:23 <frosch123> bronce, silver, gold, diamons, platinum, master, grand master 19:18:40 <frosch123> noone wants to be copper or tin :p 19:19:00 <frosch123> inflation makes everyone happy 19:20:31 <andythenorth> ha 19:20:36 <andythenorth> âeveryone must be a winner' 19:20:41 * andythenorth disagrees 19:27:11 <Zuu> Hmm, I got some local non-committed/published NoCarGoal changes. They seem to mainly add colours to strings and alter wordings regarding end year. 19:31:02 *** triad [~triad@5-13-83-231.residential.rdsnet.ro] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:31:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6C36E.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 19:38:08 <Zuu> No idea if those changes are wanted or work :-) 19:38:58 <andythenorth> he 19:39:11 <andythenorth> I love finding old non-committed changes :) 19:39:17 <andythenorth> I always forget what they were for 19:41:52 <LordAro> procrastination: http://imgur.com/iAZyaFJ 19:49:30 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 19:58:48 <frosch123> hmm, i thought we changes the industry-tile-is-clear check years ago, so it checks for water tiles for water industries, and land tile for land industries 20:00:01 <andythenorth> I might have read it wrong 20:00:12 <andythenorth> it has the expected result for water 20:00:33 <frosch123> well, oilrigs will break if you make them also check for clear land :p 20:00:47 <frosch123> the whole point of the check is to make them not spawn near coast or so 20:01:17 <frosch123> anyway, should i bother grepping my logs? 20:01:56 <frosch123> ah! 20:02:01 <frosch123> andythenorth: you wrote a patch for it :) 20:02:18 <andythenorth> did I? 20:03:06 <frosch123> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=47090&p=853946#p853946 20:04:27 <frosch123> http://www.tt-foundry.com/misc/land_special_check_tile 20:05:08 <andythenorth> oh I did :o 20:05:17 <frosch123> only 4 years ago :p 20:05:29 <andythenorth> I wrote a patch \o/ 20:05:35 <andythenorth> and then we solved it without a patch :) 20:06:08 <frosch123> so, the conclusion was to add separate checks for water/land, instead of making i depend on the industry-on-water flag 20:06:17 <frosch123> +t 20:12:54 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:37 <frosch123> night 20:16:41 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d011205.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you 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