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I saw on the wiki hat if i setuped an admin password it should allow me on port 3977 but it not working anyone can help me to figure it out? 04:39:40 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:23 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:48:01 *** bdavenport [~davenport@2001:470:8:303:70b4:3aa7:6847:35b] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 04:51:53 *** bdavenport [~davenport@2001:470:8:303:7834:18b8:c681:cbcc] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5D61.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6744D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:08:12 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 05:22:27 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:51:43 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 05:58:48 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 05:58:51 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 06:23:31 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:28:34 <peter1139> pom te pom 06:29:40 <Alberth> moin 06:31:25 *** Hazzard [~quassel@67.174.253.44] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:47:42 <planetmaker> moin 06:54:17 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:58:27 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 07:03:19 <supermop> hi all 07:04:39 <Alberth> all returns the hi 07:04:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:12:15 <supermop> thanks all 07:34:54 <Taede> moin 07:43:55 *** Pensacola [~quassel@62.194.220.216] has joined #openttd 07:57:02 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p57BD4DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:00:16 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:00:39 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 08:04:29 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6744D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:15:26 <__ln___> is it cheaper to buy train tickets in advance on Czech railways? 08:28:10 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 08:30:59 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 08:45:59 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 08:56:38 <supermop> anyone here have a newish mouse they would recommend for cad or graphic work? 08:56:52 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0B5AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: What? Oh... cu!] 08:57:04 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A0B5AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:58:30 * Rubidium is happy with his Logitech MX51<something> mouse 08:59:34 * Taede likes his logitech m705 09:00:35 <Rubidium> though... I'm not doing CAD, the graphics work is mostly coding zbase sprites or resizing images... although LabView is somewhat mouse orientated http://www.ni.com/newsletter/51735/en/ 09:00:57 *** Haube [~michi@77-20-0-12-dynip.superkabel.de] has joined #openttd 09:01:40 <Rubidium> also... my mouse isn't that new anymore as all the stickers on the bottom have lost their ink 09:13:14 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:18:58 <peter1139> Remember when mice had balls? 09:19:11 <peter1139> And gamers really hated the idea of optical mice... 09:21:27 * Taede remembers always having to take the crud out 09:24:42 <supermop> hmm i might get a logitech g502 09:24:57 <supermop> looks like not yet available in australia 09:25:27 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 09:25:45 <Eddi|zuHause> mine says "M310", but it's somewhat mediocre-ish 09:27:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i used to have a microsoft mouse, but it always crumbled in my hands to the point of unusability within half a year 09:27:23 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:27:37 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise the only requirement i have is that it fits my hand (not too small) 09:28:19 <Eddi|zuHause> the logitech one has some problems with certain surfaces, especially if the lense gets somewhat dirty over time 09:28:28 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:28:59 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately, one of those surfaces is my desk... 09:29:18 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@188.251.25.236] has joined #openttd 09:29:55 <supermop> hmm 09:30:06 <Taede> is that an infrared or a laser mouse eddi? 09:33:19 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:35:12 <Eddi|zuHause> says "performance laser 848nm" 09:42:31 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 09:49:57 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:50:26 <Wolf01> hi hi 09:51:52 *** fjb is now known as Guest10180 09:51:54 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:17 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 09:52:49 <peter1139> Can't remember what sensor mine uses. All the labels have worn off so I don't even know what it is. 09:54:27 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, and i got mine warranty replaced because the LMB had some weirdness after a few years 09:55:36 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-95-2.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:59:09 *** Guest10180 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:59:36 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r26574 trunk/src/timetable_cmd.cpp (2014-05-11 09:59:30 UTC) 09:59:37 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6006]: Don't reset current order wait time if it's timetabled. 10:05:29 *** Dan9550X [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:05:29 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:11:15 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:11:15 *** Dan9550X [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:11:55 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12:43 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:20:44 *** Dan9550X [~dan9550@58.178.140.89] has joined #openttd 10:20:45 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:38:33 <supermop> i am seeing decent mentions of some corsair gaming mouse - m65 10:38:59 <supermop> the styling is a bit more understated than the logitech one at least 10:39:17 <supermop> with the exception of the huge sailing ship logo 10:39:51 <supermop> says it has a soft touch surface though - i tend not to like rubberized plastics as they don't age well 10:48:24 *** Pensacola [~quassel@62.194.220.216] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:10:15 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:10:48 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@46.246.119.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:15:03 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@46.246.119.109] has joined #openttd 11:16:52 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, that was the problem with the microsoft mouse, the mouse wheel had a rubber surface which just fell apart... 11:17:16 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A885.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:28:20 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 11:31:05 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@46.246.119.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:31:10 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:31:42 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:32:43 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has joined #openttd 11:51:47 <supermop> ok ordered the logitech thing 11:52:12 <supermop> unfortunately it appears to be covered in blue LEDs 11:53:01 <Eddi|zuHause> what kind of monstrous rat are you buying? 11:54:08 <Eddi|zuHause> and why is it called "shipping" even if it's flying or going by truck? 11:54:42 <Eddi|zuHause> when was the last time i said english was weird? 11:58:00 <Pinkbeast> Why is it the eisenbahn even when it's a wooden toy? :-P 12:03:04 <Alberth> wood is just a soft kind of steel 12:11:21 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: i would liken more to a cheesy late 90s space ship than a rat 12:12:34 <Eddi|zuHause> it's suggested that a wooden skyscraper is as stable as one made from steel 12:14:00 <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: the name doesn't come from the train itself, but from the rails it runs on. 12:14:54 <Pinkbeast> Eddi|zuHause: I know. 12:15:06 <Pinkbeast> But a Brio toy runs on wooden rails, not iron ones. 12:15:08 <Rubidium> too bad it isn't plural for Eis (ice) 12:15:10 <Eddi|zuHause> Pinkbeast: also compare "StraÃenbahn" :p 12:16:13 <Rubidium> but... die Autobahn isn't made of Autos 12:17:29 <Eddi|zuHause> the joy of compound words... where it's randomly whether it's made from X, made by X, used by X, ... 12:18:02 <Rubidium> don't forget used in X (Stadtbahn) 12:19:37 <Eddi|zuHause> "SeidenstraÃe" (silk road) is neither made of silk nor is it a road 12:19:52 <Eddi|zuHause> "Babybrei" does not contain baby 12:20:40 <Eddi|zuHause> "Heiliges Römisches Reich" is neither holy, nor roman, and not really an empire... 12:21:03 <Rubidium> MilchstraÃe ;) 12:21:16 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387A885.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 12:27:12 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 12:44:00 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:58 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r26575 trunk/src/cargopacket.cpp (2014-05-11 12:49:51 UTC) 12:49:59 <DorpsGek> -Change [FS#5995]: Add an assert to catch underflowing action counts. 12:52:27 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26576 /trunk/src (4 files in 2 dirs) (2014-05-11 12:52:21 UTC) 12:52:28 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6003]: [Network] AIs would not reset certain network state information upon creation of their company 12:55:14 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 12:59:41 *** supermop [~daniel_er@d110-33-172-120.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: supermop] 13:07:42 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26577 trunk/src/network/network.cpp (2014-05-11 13:07:36 UTC) 13:07:43 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6001]: [Network] Client of non-dedicated server was not correctly put into the first company for all state variables 13:08:12 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 13:08:32 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:17:27 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26578 trunk/src/company_cmd.cpp (2014-05-11 13:17:21 UTC) 13:17:28 <DorpsGek> -Fix (r26576): network compilation got broken 13:17:39 <Rubidium> hmm... or rather... non-network compilation 13:18:06 <Alberth> :) 13:28:57 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 13:30:32 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@79.169.2.218] has joined #openttd 13:34:13 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:45:10 <Zonta> Hey guys i setup an admin password for my dedicated server but i'm unable to connect on port 3977 13:51:31 <Alberth> firewall in your computer and/or router/switch/hub ? 14:07:05 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.45.139] has joined #openttd 14:09:10 <Zonta> Its a VPS 14:09:39 <Zonta> And humm i did not need to config 3979 to play on 14:09:56 <Alberth> outgoing connection != incoming connection 14:10:07 <Rubidium> did you shut down the server before changing the configuration file? 14:10:41 <Zonta> I changed the config then i ran the server 14:10:56 <Rubidium> if not, then closing the game server will overwrite the configuration 14:12:32 <Zonta> do i need to set an ip in the server-bin address? 14:12:37 <Zonta> bind* 14:12:47 <Rubidium> no 14:12:59 <Rubidium> it will then just bind to all addresses 14:15:13 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@80.193.164.29] has joined #openttd 14:17:21 <Zonta> when i run OTTD on linux is there a way when i enter my command to load a savegame directly? 14:18:00 <Eddi|zuHause> -g 14:18:31 <Alberth> -h gives help 14:22:46 <Zonta> when i try to connect on port 3977 it say : Error : Network-Game connection lost 14:44:55 <planetmaker> good evening 14:50:22 <Eddi|zuHause> bloody stupid siemens... they have a "background colour" and a "fill colour" and then a "fill style" which can be set to "background only", "transparent only" or some mixture of background and fill, but not "fill only" 14:51:43 * Eddi|zuHause searches new method of switching between two preset colours 15:02:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.164.64] has joined #openttd 15:03:07 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.47.27.195] has joined #openttd 15:09:41 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 15:10:56 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 15:13:35 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.45.139] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:19:08 <Zonta> Does OTTD support IPV6 because when the server start i saw that he try to contact the master server to announce it 15:19:19 <Zonta> and it fail with : 101 15:19:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 15:19:57 <Eddi|zuHause> it'll announce both ipv4 and ipv6 15:20:36 <Zonta> dbg: [net] [udp] sendto([master.openttd.org]:3978 (IPv6)) failed with: 101 15:20:36 <Zonta> dbg: [net] [udp] advertising on master server successful (IPv4) 15:21:51 <Eddi|zuHause> well i have no idea what error code 101 is 15:23:22 <Zonta> Humm anyway the firewall port are on allow and i cannot connect on admin_port 3977. I receive : Error : Network-Game connection lost message 15:26:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:27:10 <andythenorth> o/ 15:27:27 <planetmaker> \o 15:28:16 <Alberth> o/ 15:28:26 * Alberth should have a longer name 15:30:58 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:31:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a solution for that 15:32:09 <Rubidium> DOS nick names? 15:33:36 <Eddi|zuHause> when i first read the term 'DOS 8.3 filenames' i thought 8.3 was a version number 15:33:44 <Rubidium> andyth~1, plane~1, alberth, rubidium, eddizu~1 15:34:04 <Alberth> :D 15:34:12 <Eddi|zuHause> it would be planet~1 15:35:08 <Rubidium> true, my mistake ;) 15:35:11 <Rubidium> I can't count 15:35:31 <Rubidium> but that's why I let my computer do most of the counting and I'd only check the magnitude 15:35:43 <Eddi|zuHause> and eddizu~1 to eddizu~4 would be in an order that doesn't match Eddi|zuHause[2-4]? 15:36:09 <Rubidium> depends... it's FIFO-ish 15:36:40 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, in the order they appeared 15:36:44 <Rubidium> so if you first make Eddi|zuHause, then Eddi|zuHause2, Eddi|zuHause3 and finally Eddi|zuHause4, then it'll be in the same order 15:36:52 <Rubidium> but otherwise... nope 15:37:20 <Rubidium> Zonta: you can't connect OpenTTD to the admin port. You need some (external) application/library for that 15:37:23 <Eddi|zuHause> i have that problem with master of orion in dosbox 15:40:05 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm... kwin has this annoying habit of pulling fullscreen apps to front when they get focus... where can i turn that off? 15:41:19 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:50:01 *** Dan9550X [~dan9550@58.178.140.89] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:02:22 <peter1139> Stop using KDE.. 16:03:34 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:10:34 <Eddi|zuHause> peter1139: the devil you know... 16:15:28 <Zonta> Oh i see Thank you Rubidium 16:15:57 <Zonta> So now about the goal system? Is there a page yet on the wiki 16:16:20 <Eddi|zuHause> there's a forum section 16:18:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.164.64] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 16:18:48 <Zonta> Ok what library is the best to use the admin_port? 16:19:23 <Eddi|zuHause> depends on whether you want to program in python or in java 16:19:47 <planetmaker> Zonta, depends. There's libottdadmin2 (python) and joan (java). soap is a client making use of libottdadmin2 16:19:50 *** retro|cz [~retro@ip-89-176-82-80.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #openttd 16:25:40 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:32:30 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 16:39:06 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.37.169] has joined #openttd 16:40:59 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:41:10 <andythenorth> boring forum day 16:41:33 <andythenorth> also boring irc day 16:41:40 <andythenorth> is everybody out in the sun or something? 16:42:15 <Eddi|zuHause> the 14.5°C hot sun? 16:44:52 <andythenorth> yeah that 16:44:58 * andythenorth has been working and children-minding 16:49:20 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:53:43 <Supercheese> I just woke up :P 16:54:08 <Markk> It's raining outside. 16:54:11 <Markk> Not even men. 16:54:17 <Markk> Just dirty water. 17:00:20 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@irc.blinkenshell.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:20 <Alberth> but it's coming from the heavens, how can it be dirty? 17:01:57 <planetmaker> fallout? :P 17:02:16 <Eddi|zuHause> H2SO4? 17:02:39 <planetmaker> that only cleanses to the bone, Eddi|zuHause ;) 17:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> the phrase i heard recently was: "at least with HCl you feel something and get away from it. with NaOH when you notice it, it's already too late" 17:06:38 <planetmaker> maybe. Though HF is the really evil one 17:08:03 <Supercheese> HF rain would etch your window glass prettily 17:08:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i've only dealt with HCl and HNO3 in industrial scale so far... 17:09:19 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: OH MY GOD ZNC IS SO FUCKING AWESOME] 17:16:29 <George> Hi 17:16:48 <George> Di I understand it right, that this page is not correct? 17:16:49 <George> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Snow_line 17:17:32 <George> Heights run not from 2 to 29, but from 16 to 232? 17:17:34 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f742d69.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 17:19:19 <Eddi|zuHause> it's outdated 17:19:49 <George> and where can I read the updated information? 17:20:04 <Eddi|zuHause> although i don't know how it behaves now... refer to nfo specs if in doubt... 17:25:37 <Alberth> iirc I moved the silly * 8 into the nml compiler so the user isn't bothered with it, can\t find that number now though :( 17:26:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: this whole snowline stuff was changed in grfv8 17:26:23 <George> something is wrong 17:26:37 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A18016.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:26:46 <George> I've added *16 in nml, but yet can't get snow removed 17:26:53 <George> It's too low 17:26:58 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: oh, in that case all bets are off 17:27:12 <George> At least I suppose it to be much higher 17:27:52 <George> day_of_year( 7, 4): 16*16 should be no snow, right? 17:28:46 <Eddi|zuHause> George: that overflows if it's a byte 17:28:55 <Eddi|zuHause> so 16*16=256=0 17:29:25 <Eddi|zuHause> although there should probably be a range check somewhere 17:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause> also, make sure no other set changes snowline 17:30:04 <Alberth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nml/repository/entry/nml/ast/snowline.py#L72 like this one :p 17:31:07 <Eddi|zuHause> ah, so you can also write "100%" 17:31:37 <Alberth> I think everybody uses percentages 17:31:44 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BC7F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:31:51 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 17:32:02 <Alberth> with George being the exception to the rule :) 17:32:24 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the problem with being "oldschool" :p 17:33:41 <George> Am IO the only one tho reads docs? (http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Snow_line) 17:34:07 <Eddi|zuHause> probably :p 17:34:20 <Alberth> When I wrote that, it was correct. 17:34:36 <Eddi|zuHause> George: so apparently the value range is now "0% to 100%" 17:35:08 <Eddi|zuHause> but i'm not updating that 17:35:51 <Alberth> you can do both forms afaik 17:36:35 <Alberth> George: if you multiply by 16, and the docs are correct, then 1*16 is almost 17, so pretty much fully snow already 17:37:11 <Alberth> did you try lower numbers without multiplication factor? 17:37:48 <Alberth> but sure, 0-100 % should work too 17:40:22 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:41:19 <planetmaker> scale is either scaled from 0 ... 255 or in snow% 17:43:05 <peter1139> Where does this *16 stuff come from? heh 17:43:40 <Eddi|zuHause> someone wanted to prepare for more heightlevels 17:44:24 <planetmaker> hm.. scaled 0 ... 255 or not? 17:44:44 <planetmaker> code says 0 ... 255 17:46:03 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26579 /trunk/src/lang (6 files) (2014-05-11 17:45:49 UTC) 17:46:04 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:46:05 <DorpsGek> simplified_chinese - 17 changes by ww9980 17:46:06 <DorpsGek> traditional_chinese - 2 changes by ww9980 17:46:07 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 3 changes by 17:46:08 <DorpsGek> norwegian_bokmal - 2 changes by cuthbert 17:46:09 <DorpsGek> slovak - 2 changes by Milsa 17:46:10 <DorpsGek> spanish - 5 changes by juanjo 17:46:11 <DorpsGek> welsh - 50 changes by kazzie 17:46:49 <planetmaker> pretty sure 0 ... 255 is no scaling but actually gives height above sea level in tiles. Thus anything > 16 will be "no snow" 17:47:10 <planetmaker> as that's the nfo value 17:47:49 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:48:37 <Eddi|zuHause> "For GRF version 8 and above: The values can be any value between 0 and FFh. FF means 'no snow'; other values are scaled to the number of possible heightlevels of the map." 17:51:16 <Eddi|zuHause> going in steps of 16 will mean that snowline makes large jumps if more heightlevels are used 17:51:40 *** KenjiE20 [kenjie20@46.246.119.109] has joined #openttd 17:51:58 <Eddi|zuHause> is there a "no snow" constant in nml? 17:52:23 <planetmaker> 255 or 100 snow%. But no specific constant 17:52:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i have a feeling we discussed once to set 100% as 0xFE, and a special constant for 0xFF 17:57:38 <planetmaker> that might actually be true. But 100 snow% sets the value to 255, thus means no snow. So it reflects that well. Just as expected actually 17:58:13 <planetmaker> and one could introduce a constant NO_SNOW defined as 255 - but that probably wouldn't be used anyway 17:58:51 <Alberth> I'd use 0 as no snow 18:02:17 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26580 /trunk/src (11 files in 4 dirs) (2014-05-11 18:02:11 UTC) 18:02:18 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: s/GES_PICKUP/GES_RATING/ (it has nothing to do with actual pickup), s/acceptance_pickup/status/ (the enum isn't called GoodEntryStatus for a reason; it's not only acceptance and pickup anymore) 18:06:19 <andythenorth> hmm 18:06:25 <andythenorth> more torque needed 18:06:45 <planetmaker> Alberth, think of it as snowlineheight 18:06:57 <planetmaker> snow% is - indeed - a bit unfortunate naming 18:07:08 <andythenorth> the problem is that putting in a motor with more torque chews the gears apart 18:07:12 <planetmaker> snowlineheight% 18:07:13 <andythenorth> and destroys the frame 18:12:04 <Alberth> 100% height still feels to me as fully snowed, as I am thinking from sea level :) 18:12:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: 0 is all snow 18:12:37 <Alberth> Eddi|zuHause: confusing eh? 18:12:46 <Eddi|zuHause> hysterical... 18:13:56 <planetmaker> 0% of the heightlevels snowed 18:14:24 <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: the difference is that 0xFE means you still have the half-snowed tiles at the hill tops, while with 0xFF they get removed as well 18:17:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18016.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:24:48 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.183.32.128] has joined #openttd 18:31:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26581 trunk/src/economy.cpp (2014-05-11 18:31:38 UTC) 18:31:47 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5989]: transfering cargo to a station doesn't give that station a rating and thus the cargo does not decay... until the first pickup happens 18:31:48 <DorpsGek> For cargo drops from industries/houses, the station gets a rating too so why not when cargo is dropped at the station from a train? 18:32:53 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:35:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26582 /trunk/src (station_base.h station_cmd.cpp) (2014-05-11 18:35:34 UTC) 18:35:42 <DorpsGek> -Feature-ish: quickly decay cargo after about 21 months of not having picked any of the cargo, and prevent houses and industries providing more cargo 18:40:28 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 18:44:42 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe we should also have a rating per link? 18:46:08 <planetmaker> so... a hub station has 197 ratings? 18:46:33 <planetmaker> or simply not user-visible? 18:46:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:46:48 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26583 trunk/src/ai/ai_gui.cpp (2014-05-11 18:46:42 UTC) 18:46:49 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#5974]: Game script could be changed in game by double clicking 18:47:02 <Eddi|zuHause> something that helps me diagnosing why there are 4000 people waiting for <next hop> 18:47:15 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:49:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:50:37 <George> did anyone tried to specify snowline in ? 18:51:01 <George> I get error "unexpected ;" 18:51:15 <George> when I remove % compilation works 18:51:49 <George> I've dounloded nml 0.3.1 and the problem remains 18:52:51 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm... X? why do you use 4GB mem? 18:54:37 <Eddi|zuHause> brb 18:55:47 <planetmaker> George, in what? 18:56:02 <planetmaker> the unit is "snow%". Not % 18:56:39 <George> day_of_year( 1, 1): 29 SNOW%; ? 18:57:24 <planetmaker> snow% 18:57:30 <planetmaker> not sure whether case matters 18:57:37 <Eddi|zuHause> it probably does 18:57:42 <planetmaker> probably yes 19:00:56 <George> Thanks. that works 19:04:54 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:04:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 19:06:09 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 19:07:34 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4DA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 19:23:15 <andythenorth> bye 19:23:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:23:33 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.164.39] has quit [] 19:23:47 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.164.64] has joined #openttd 19:40:27 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 19:47:20 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:52:58 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc4-wolv15-2-0-cust60.wolv.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:35 *** SkeedR is now known as Guest10214 19:56:59 *** Guest10214 is now known as SkeedR 20:09:34 *** SkeedR_ [~SkeedR@cpc4-wolv15-2-0-cust60.wolv.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:15:05 *** SkeedR [~SkeedR@cpc4-wolv15-2-0-cust60.wolv.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:16:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26584 /trunk/src (5 files in 3 dirs) (2014-05-11 20:16:37 UTC) 20:16:44 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: [Squirrel] Make the internal integer for scripts always 64 bits, so scripts behave the same on 32 or 64 bits architectures 20:25:32 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26585 /trunk/src/script (3 files in 2 dirs) (2014-05-11 20:25:26 UTC) 20:25:33 <DorpsGek> -Fix/Feature [FS#5942]: don't truncate money to 32 bits 20:25:49 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:26:12 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 20:28:07 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18016.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:29:25 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.37.169] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:32:09 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.41.21] has joined #openttd 20:40:34 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:47:19 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:50:42 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: OH MY GOD ZNC IS SO FUCKING AWESOME] 20:52:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 20:53:23 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:53:41 <frosch123> night 20:53:41 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 20:53:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f742d69.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:57:29 *** Aristide [~quassel@81.253.41.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:01:37 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18016.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:24:42 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 21:24:53 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:30:56 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:39:33 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:48:01 *** SpComb [terom@zapotek.paivola.fi] has joined #openttd 21:52:36 *** SkeedR_ [~SkeedR@cpc4-wolv15-2-0-cust60.wolv.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:53:08 *** APTX_ [~APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:59:03 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:e1b2:bd09:5828:7355] has joined #openttd 21:59:04 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 22:11:42 *** valhallasw [~valhallas@s55978e11.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 22:21:16 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-98-75.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 22:21:31 <NGC982> :l 22:24:50 <Supercheese> ? 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