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00:10:00 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po2-84-90-120-62.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:14:32 *** KritiK [~Maxim@0001264a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:17:43 <Zonta> seems like a pain to get stats for each game (once a year until newgame) 00:19:06 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 00:23:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 00:26:34 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 00:38:54 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 01:06:57 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:20:37 *** efess [~Efess@c-50-169-48-221.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:13 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:37:17 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 01:38:47 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:43:21 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:43:25 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@92.195.20.230] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:08:52 *** abchirk_ [~abchirk@p57A09628.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:16:06 *** Jomann [~abchirk@p57A09197.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:50:26 * cosus is away: auto-away 02:50:28 * cosus is back (gone 00:00:02) 03:06:55 * cosus is away: auto-away 03:06:58 * cosus is back (gone 00:00:03) 03:12:19 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:12:20 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:27:16 * cosus is away: auto-away 03:33:53 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:33:53 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:41:03 *** lugo [lugo@192.249.56.28] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:55:01 *** lugo [lugo@192.249.56.28] has joined #openttd 04:08:24 * cosus is back (gone 00:41:08) 04:21:29 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 04:22:49 * cosus is away: auto-away 04:23:14 * cosus is back (gone 00:00:25) 04:30:08 <pthagnar> an exciting lifestyle 04:37:00 *** Hazzard [~quassel@67.174.253.44] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:43:34 <kiz> good thing he's letting us know, otherwise we might get worried 04:49:09 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD58EF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67D2B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 04:57:55 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-113-212.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 05:01:37 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 05:02:51 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-22-186.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:08:51 * cosus is away: auto-away 05:08:53 * cosus is back (gone 00:00:01) 05:20:31 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:20:45 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 05:39:16 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [] 06:11:46 * cosus is away: auto-away 06:11:49 * cosus is back (gone 00:00:03) 06:20:47 <Xaroth|Work> cosus: I really think nobody really cares 06:22:15 <cosus> Not like itâs cause congestion. Well, I guess all those logging this might find this annoying on some level. 06:26:17 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK 06:27:32 <cosus> And Iâm too lazy to change the settings now. :/ Sorry man. 06:33:54 <V453000> you probably arent very sorry if you cant even change some stupid setting :) 06:36:27 <Supercheese> @votekick cosus 06:36:29 <Supercheese> awww 06:38:21 <V453000> shaym 06:45:07 <Xaroth|Work> cosus: I find it just as lame as afk nicknames.. the IRC protocol has some very nice tricks for people to see if somebody is active or not, pretending that people care whether or not you're around just shows how self-absorbed people can be :) 06:47:33 <pthagnar> it tricks xchat into thinking people are saying things too 06:55:24 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 07:00:47 <kiz> IRC has /away for a reason 07:07:05 <cosus> Alright, Iâll fix iy. 07:07:08 <cosus> it 07:07:16 <kiz> thanks! 07:11:53 <cosus> Disco! 07:12:32 <cosus> Back to silence still. 07:15:44 *** pthagnar [~pthagnar@cpc7-pres17-2-0-cust28.18-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:18:31 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-36-123.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 07:21:20 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-113-212.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:22:03 <Supercheese> Nunc est dormiendum; valete 07:22:09 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 07:24:09 <V453000> anus 07:25:32 <Xaroth|Work> if i google that line, the first result I get is him saying that a different time... 07:37:26 <cosus> Canât even tell what language. 07:37:58 <Xaroth|Work> Latin 07:38:07 <Xaroth|Work> it's basically a farewell 07:39:49 <cosus> I thought Romantic, but I didnât see Latin. Rationalizing oneâs self too much. 07:42:49 <__ln___> Anyone been to Prague? 07:43:42 <V453000> y 07:44:39 <__ln___> what should a tourist see there? 07:45:05 <V453000> beer and prostitutes 07:45:17 <V453000> oh and some heaps of stone 07:46:11 <__ln___> heaps of stone in the form of buildings? 07:46:15 <V453000> yez 07:47:04 <V453000> when I googled what to see in prague, it throws me basically what I would tell you 07:47:26 <V453000> but it misses out the b+p 07:47:48 <__ln___> ok 07:49:09 <__ln___> i've bought a flight to prague, and allocated 3 days to spend in czech, before exiting the country. 07:49:30 <V453000> rite 07:50:05 <V453000> well the castle/charles bridge/st vitus cathedral/the astronomical clock are all like classic-shit-to-see 07:50:18 <V453000> you can go through all that in one afternoon 07:50:37 <V453000> just be careful about your valuables, there are crowds of people and getting robbed without noticing isnt uncommon 07:51:06 <__ln___> i have survived barcelona 07:51:23 <V453000> k :D 07:52:40 <__ln___> are train tickets much cheaper if bought in advance online? 07:52:55 <V453000> no idea, going by train in CZ is generally not the best way 07:52:57 <V453000> bus > train here 07:53:10 <V453000> usually also cheaper I believe 07:53:16 <__ln___> :( but i like trains 07:53:27 <V453000> mhm :D 07:54:44 <peter1139> Aberdeen anus burgers 07:55:37 <V453000> anus. 08:44:42 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-25-15.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:45:24 <cosus> âFor the lovre of god and all that is holy my anus is bleeding!â 08:45:31 *** cosus [~cosus@2602:304:cdbe:13c0:1955:b3ef:fc5b:211e] has quit [Quit: ש×××!] 08:47:00 <peter1139> The 'smart' quotes made it. 08:50:05 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-36-123.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:52:30 *** JdGordon| [~jonno@ppp118-209-17-143.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 08:55:02 <V453000> nice nuff 08:57:59 *** JdGordon1 [~jonno@ppp118-209-25-15.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:03:53 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.183.32.128] has joined #openttd 09:06:07 *** JerikTelorian [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 09:10:10 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6CF6A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 09:12:30 *** Jerik [~Jerik@c-68-80-55-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:16:07 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po2-84-90-120-62.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 09:16:54 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:16:57 <Flygon_> GUYS 09:16:59 <Flygon_> GUUUYYS 09:17:03 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 09:17:05 <Flygon> GUYS 09:17:08 <Flygon> HOLY CRAP GUYS 09:17:10 <Flygon> <Hendikins> On a side note, an M set is the biggest and most expensive machine I've ever used to run Windows Calculator. 09:17:13 <Flygon> GUYS 09:17:31 <Flygon> WE HAVE TO IMPLEMENT A CALCULATOR FUNCTION INTO OPENTTD'S GRFS THAT HAVE SYDNEY'S MELLENIUM TRAINS 09:17:39 <Flygon> They run Win2k as the OS @_@ 09:17:43 <Flygon> Not a joke. 09:18:58 <Xaroth|Work> o_O 09:19:12 <Xaroth|Work> did somebody forget to take his pills again? 09:19:12 <Samu> too caps, didn't read 09:22:28 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has joined #openttd 09:25:25 <Flygon> I'm sorry 09:25:27 <Flygon> But oh WOW 09:25:44 <Flygon> World's most expensive Windows calculator right there 09:27:34 *** Dan9550 [~dan9550@89.105.dsl.mel.iprimus.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:29:01 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po2-84-90-120-62.netvisao.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 09:33:52 <LordAro> i know you can do logic gates with pre-signals, so you could make a calculator that way 09:35:11 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po2-84-90-120-62.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 09:35:33 <Samu> reporting a not-really-a-bug: http://bugs.openttd.org/task/6015 09:35:46 <Samu> thx for fixing stuff for AIs 09:37:34 <Samu> there's more discrepancies when configuring AIs via main menu vs via multiplayer game 09:38:23 <Samu> but i believe they're hard to fix 09:46:22 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:47:04 *** Yugi_D [~chatzilla@122-61-157-205.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #openttd 09:47:18 *** Yugi_D [~chatzilla@122-61-157-205.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has quit [] 09:49:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.168.114] has joined #openttd 09:49:49 *** Yugi_D [~chatzilla@122.61.157.205] has joined #openttd 09:51:06 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51:20 *** Yugi_D [~chatzilla@122.61.157.205] has left #openttd [] 09:52:29 *** fjb is now known as Guest10478 09:52:31 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:53:05 <Samu> how do I calculate tiles per day? 09:53:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6CF6A.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 09:53:18 <Samu> trying to translate km/h into tiles/day 09:53:31 <Samu> convert* 09:59:16 *** Guest10478 [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:04:26 <Samu> the wikipedia says this Internally OpenTTD works with a unit called "km-ish/h", which is equal to "mph/1.6". The conversion factor from km-ish/h to km/h is 1.00584, and the conversion factor from km-ish/h to mph is 1.6. 10:04:46 <V453000> jesus fuck 10:04:50 <V453000> why would you do that 10:05:10 <V453000> like who cares how many tiles do you go in X days 10:05:15 <Samu> is it correct? 10:05:51 <Samu> if a ship is 70 mph, then to convert to km-ish/h I do 70/1.6? 10:06:06 <Samu> seems wrong 10:06:30 <V453000> I have no idea why would you care about that 10:06:59 <Eddi|zuHause> Samu: each tile has 16 steps, each step has 256 substeps, "1 km/h-ish" means "1 substep per tick", each day has 74 ticks 10:08:27 <Eddi|zuHause> so "1 tile per day" is 4096/74 km/h-ish 10:08:39 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 4096/74 10:08:39 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 55.3513513514 10:09:36 <Samu> to convert km/h-ish i multiply by 1.00584 or divide by 1.00584? 10:09:55 <Eddi|zuHause> multiply 10:10:09 <Eddi|zuHause> or ignore 10:10:28 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 4096/74*1.00584 10:10:28 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 55.6746032432 10:10:52 <Eddi|zuHause> because it makes no significant diffference at this low values 10:11:23 <Samu> 1*1.00584*16*256/74 10:12:59 <Samu> thx 10:21:54 <Samu> im doing something wrong 10:22:18 <Samu> i have the hovercraft going 112 km/h 10:22:33 <Samu> 112*1.00584*16*256/74 10:23:50 <Samu> 16*256/74*112*1.00584 10:28:39 <Eddi|zuHause> you do that backwards 10:29:17 <Eddi|zuHause> the formula was (days per tile)*(conversion factor)=(km/h-ish) 10:29:43 <Eddi|zuHause> so you now need (km/h-ish)/(conversion factor)=(days per tile) 10:30:25 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 112/(4096/74) 10:30:25 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 2.0234375 10:30:38 <Eddi|zuHause> err, "tiles per day" i mean 10:31:41 <Samu> aha, that's it! 10:31:47 <Samu> thanks again 10:40:08 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.164.39] has joined #openttd 10:46:51 <Samu> so this means 1 tile is 4096 km-ish size? 10:47:30 <Xaroth|Work> that's some biiiiiiiiiig football stadiums then 10:48:52 <V453000> XD 10:49:01 <V453000> welcome to counting utter bullshit Samu 10:49:13 <V453000> there is no valid scale. 10:49:56 <Samu> i need for forget the whole Km unit, so I need to convert it to what the game measures 10:52:43 <peter1139> mph to km-ish/h is *1.6, not /1.6 10:59:53 <Flygon> It'd be nice to see a realistically sized OpenTTD map 10:59:58 <Flygon> As in, on-scale with the real world 11:00:03 <Flygon> Only REAL issue is roads 11:00:25 <Flygon> Also, bridges built with curves and gradients 11:00:59 <Samu> the game has got 3 measure units that I can quantify for my excel calcs: tiles per day, tiles, day (km/h, km, h) 11:01:37 <Samu> must abstract this crap into excel for some research i'm doing 11:11:28 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:12:05 <Eddi|zuHause> <Samu> so this means 1 tile is 4096 km-ish size? <-- no, because a day does not equal an hour 11:13:29 *** chrswk [~chrswk@213.188.53.45] has joined #openttd 11:14:03 <Eddi|zuHause> if 55km/h means you travel a tile in a day, a tile has 55*24 km 11:14:10 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 55*24 11:14:10 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1320 11:24:07 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 11:37:50 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:7915:5770:bd11:409c] has joined #openttd 11:43:13 <Eddi|zuHause> this xorg memory leak is mighty annoying... 11:52:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:55:56 <Samu> im doing something wrong yet 11:56:36 <Samu> the timetable is filling in 16 days to travel a distance of 59 tiles 11:56:47 <Samu> my calcs are telling me 29 days :( 11:56:57 <Samu> 59/(112*(1/(4096/74))) 12:03:54 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i might have forgotten a factor 2 12:04:34 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-9420.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 12:05:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. vehicles get moved twice per tick 12:05:22 <Eddi|zuHause> so (2*74) 12:05:38 <Samu> :) 12:06:45 <Samu> 14,579 yeah, that's more likely 12:07:19 <Eddi|zuHause> the real time will be higher because of acceleration delay 12:07:25 <Phreeze> an doff again 12:07:46 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:07:57 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:08:30 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:09:36 <Samu> For trains and aircraft the raw speed is in km-ish/h, for road vehicles/ships in 0.5 km-ish/h. For trains and aircraft this step is done twice a tick, whereas ships and road vehicles do it once a tick. 12:09:37 <Samu> so confusing 12:11:42 <Eddi|zuHause> the 0.5 has the same effect as the double execution, so the formula doesn't change 12:12:47 <Eddi|zuHause> it's just an implementation detail 12:13:23 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po2-84-90-120-62.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:13:27 <Eddi|zuHause> and do not go on reading about "old aircraft units" :p 12:13:30 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-9420.vo.lu] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 12:21:20 <peter1139> Still on about units? Haha 12:22:13 <Eddi|zuHause> he quit 12:22:39 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 12:22:47 <Samu> sorry, my internet connection dropped 12:28:29 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:32:44 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 12:36:50 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:39:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:40:12 <Samu> hmm it still does not corroborate 12:40:50 <Samu> speed 32 km/h -> 32*(1/(4096/(2*74))) = 1,15625 tiles/day 12:41:03 <Samu> travel 59 tiles -> 59/(32*(1/(4096/(2*74)))) = 51,027027027027027027027027027027 days 12:41:13 <Samu> the autofill now gives me a lesser number of days 12:41:22 <Samu> 48/49 days 12:42:05 <Samu> and it includes acceleration delay 12:42:14 <Samu> somessing's missing 12:43:23 <peter1139> Still on about units? Haha 12:45:16 <V453000> (: 12:46:04 <Samu> how do I count the tiles between 2 docks facing opposite direction to each other? 12:46:39 <V453000> yes 12:47:31 <Samu> gonna try 55 tiles 12:53:25 <peter1139> Don't forget to include the bananas, glottal-stops and herring. 13:04:14 <Samu> must use these results to calculate over the entire duration of a vehicle, 25 years, 30 years, it needs to be precise enough for an estimate 13:09:53 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 13:09:56 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 13:09:59 <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 13:10:13 <V453000> I dont even want to know why do you calculate that kind of thing 13:18:39 <Samu> I'm pitting Hovercraft vs FFP Ferry 13:19:41 <Samu> what would be the better choice over the entire lifespan of them both 13:20:39 <V453000> excellent way how to waste a day§ 13:20:40 <V453000> :D 13:20:51 <Samu> why do you care 13:21:51 <V453000> because the uselessness of your research makes me laugh 13:22:15 <Samu> useless for you 13:22:25 <V453000> for about everybody 13:25:14 <Pinkbeast> ... surely it comes down to a fairly direct comparison of running costs, speed, and capacity? 13:26:34 <V453000> exactly, and mainly, often it can also be case of situation, different path could give different results 13:29:33 <Samu> running costs over 25 years Hovercraft: 103900 GBP 13:30:37 <Samu> running costs over 30 years MPS Ferry: 59040 GBP 13:31:17 <V453000> now realize that money is completely pointless in OpenTTD 13:31:18 <V453000> (: 13:31:44 <V453000> btw vehicle life (the 25 and 30 years) are also meaningless 13:32:20 <Samu> running costs over 30 years FFP Ferry: 52500 GBP 13:33:10 <V453000> how is that running cost impactful if a train makes that in one trip? 13:34:00 *** ABCRic [~ABCRic@a79-169-2-218.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #openttd 13:34:55 <Samu> FFP Ferry: 130 passengers delivered each ~24 days 13:35:28 <Samu> Hovercraft: 100 passengers delivered each ~14 days 13:35:41 <V453000> on a random track where different track could mean different ship is better 13:35:44 <peter1139> V453000, it doesn't matter, it will still continue. 13:35:45 <V453000> well done :) 13:35:55 <Samu> it's for the same 13:35:57 <V453000> peter1139: I know :) 13:36:16 *** kais58|AFK is now known as kais58_ 13:36:24 <V453000> Samu: yes, but if your tracks is long as hell, faster ship will be better, if it is short so the fast one cant even get to full speed, slow one will be just fine 13:36:52 <Samu> the distance was 56 tiles 13:37:03 <V453000> it doesnt matter :D :D :D 13:37:18 *** Csstform [~oftc-webi@oh-71-50-38-186.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #openttd 13:37:35 *** Csstform [~oftc-webi@oh-71-50-38-186.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has quit [] 13:40:13 <Samu> (365/24)*30 -> delivers 292 times 130 passengers over the entire lifetime. Now I need to find the payment for delivering 130 passengers 56 tiles away with a delay of 24 days :/ 13:40:57 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 13:40:59 <peter1139> Meanwhile... 13:44:48 <V453000> =D 13:44:54 <V453000> Samu why dont you go do something useful 13:44:57 <V453000> draw something, code something 13:45:07 <V453000> or even play the game, build a big network? :D 13:54:42 <Samu> 1.794,78 13:55:14 <V453000> ok stay retard :) 13:56:04 <Samu> FFP Ferry profit: 524075-52500 = 471575 GBP 13:56:47 <juzza1> Samu: https://wiki.openttd.org/Cargo_income 13:56:56 <peter1139> Distance to the moon: 384403km 14:01:20 <Samu> forgot to put the cost of the vehicle itself: 471575-28437 = 443138 GBP 14:02:04 <peter1139> Hmm, my caps lock LED isn't working again :S 14:02:40 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:06:31 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 14:17:09 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:19:25 <Samu> i suck at math 14:21:15 *** bdavenport [~davenport@aeolus.mindlesstux.com] has joined #openttd 14:22:29 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 14:26:08 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-9420.vo.lu] has joined #openttd 14:30:23 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 14:34:11 *** Phreeze [~p@vodsl-9420.vo.lu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:31 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:34 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-165.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 14:45:42 <Samu> https://wiki.openttd.org/images/4/4b/Income_Formula.png 14:46:41 <Samu> confused about that 31 with a comma afterwards 14:47:38 <Pinkbeast> max (x,y) is the maximum of x and y 14:48:15 <Samu> x=31 14:48:38 <Samu> or 31*1/2^21? 14:48:59 <Pinkbeast> Er, the brackets in that expression presumably function like ordinary brackets. 14:49:40 <Samu> im terrible at math 14:49:43 <Pinkbeast> So the 1/2^21 might just as well be between a and d 14:50:40 <peter1139> So... 14:52:02 <V453000> peter1139 wants to say well done 14:54:23 <Samu> ok, thx anyway 14:54:38 <Samu> think i got the formula I wanted 14:55:18 <peter1139> Baby? 14:55:22 <Samu> hovercraft ends up being better, for a distance of 59 tiles 14:55:36 <peter1139> Cow&Gate or SMA? 14:56:00 <Samu> Hovercraft: (365/(56/(112*(1/(4096/(1,00584*2*74))))))*25*1*39*59*(1-14*0,004-0*0,004)-(4156*25+37578) = 1.299.250,5146271875 14:56:22 <Samu> FFP Ferry: (365/(56/(64*(1/(4096/(1,00584*2*74)))))*30*1,3*39*59*(1-24*0,004-(24-24)*0,004)-(4156*25+37578) = 1.088.408,7920507535714285714285714 14:56:38 <Pinkbeast> Spurious precision, much? 14:56:54 <Samu> the result is in GBP 14:57:15 <Pinkbeast> I shall remember that next time I am looking for the spare .00000000000000000000000000000000005p in my wallet 14:57:55 <Pinkbeast> ... I trust we've accounted for loading times here? 14:58:16 <Samu> nope, nor acceleration nor breakdown nor services 14:58:41 <Pinkbeast> So the precision is _utterly_ spurious. 14:58:45 <V453000> :D 14:59:03 <Samu> :/ 14:59:07 <V453000> Samu you could make some psychiatrist some serious profit 15:06:10 *** Aristide [~quassel@2a01:e35:2eb9:64b0:7915:5770:bd11:409c] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09:18 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 15:15:33 <Samu> bug or intended? 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ZZZzzzâŠ] 17:50:54 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:51:02 <Alberth> o/ Wolf01 17:51:17 <Wolf01> o/ 17:52:06 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:01:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:34 <andythenorth> o/ 18:01:36 <Alberth> o/ andy 18:03:26 <Wolf01> \o 18:15:46 <Samu> http://www.timeanddate.com/date/leapyear.html 18:16:08 <Samu> how many days is there in a year for openttd? 18:16:42 <Samu> does it follow that formula? 18:16:49 <Samu> rules 18:16:58 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâŠ] 18:19:16 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #openttd 18:19:51 <Xaroth|Work> Check the code? 18:20:08 <Alberth> http://paste.openttdcoop.org/show/3319/ 18:20:45 <Xaroth|Work> ^ that 18:22:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3191.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:48:16 <V453000> got another robot animated for yeti ^_^ 18:51:28 <Alberth> yetis have robots? :o 18:51:39 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:51:54 <V453000> of course the industries have robots doing things :) 18:52:22 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6098/3-X_2.wmv basic preview of first 2 of them 18:53:00 <V453000> but as there are more things happening around the belt, there are going to be more robots :) I have more already but not rendered :) 18:55:09 <V453000> anyway, me be going 18:55:10 <V453000> cyaz 18:55:14 <Alberth> I had to watch this one for 10 times already :) 18:55:26 <Alberth> bye V 19:08:05 <George> Hi 19:08:15 <George> How to fix this string 19:08:16 <George> {WHITE}{STRING} Ме ÑÑÑП{G "О" "О" "О" "Ñ"}ÑÑÑ Ð² леÑÑ 19:08:25 <George> eints sais Error: String parameter 1 is out of bounds for gender queries {G ..} 19:08:56 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.183.32.128] has quit [Quit: www.AdiIRC.com - not made by microsoft.] 19:09:10 <George> I suppose thats because a {sting} is before {G }, not after 19:09:30 <George> How to apply it in such case? 19:11:50 *** montalvo [~montalvo@88-105-85-3.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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