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07:11:44  <planetmaker> moin
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11:44:25  <Alberth> moin
11:46:42  <planetmaker> o/
11:50:37  <Taede> mornin
11:51:50  <frosch123> hoi
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13:35:45  <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r26646 /trunk/src (7 files in 3 dirs) (2014-06-14 13:35:39 UTC)
13:35:46  <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6041]: Save locations instead of distances in link graphs to reduce size.
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16:44:40  <Wolf01> hello
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17:13:21  <Alberth> hi hi
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17:46:24  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26647 /trunk/src/lang (3 files) (2014-06-14 17:46:15 UTC)
17:46:25  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:46:26  <DorpsGek> polish - 11 changes by wojteks86
17:46:27  <DorpsGek> slovak - 6 changes by Milsa
17:46:28  <DorpsGek> welsh - 21 changes by kazzie
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18:06:12  <Tramvai> Hey OpenTTD masters. :)
18:06:25  <planetmaker> hi
18:06:40  <planetmaker> but we're all slaves to the game ;)
18:06:49  <Tramvai> Can't argue with that :|
18:07:06  <Tramvai> I'm here for quick guidance... I've run into a problem I haven't seen before: my trains are not turning around in a two-way station.
18:07:36  <planetmaker> there's a setting for that in the adv. settings
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18:10:17  <Tramvai> I'm not finding it
18:11:08  <planetmaker> vehicles->routing->disallow trains reversing in stations
18:11:24  <planetmaker> you might need to choose to show all (expert) settings and all setting types
18:12:14  <Tramvai> Yeah, I got it now. :)
18:12:59  <Tramvai> Awesome, thanks guys.
18:13:05  <planetmaker> you're welcome
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18:23:57  * Alberth ponders sanity of dusting off grl, or perhaps make grl2
18:24:51  <V453000> wtf :D
18:25:15  <Alberth> no worries V, it means "grf language"
18:26:04  <Alberth> sort of NFO:TNG
18:27:11  <Alberth> btw I like your "light green colour" idea for unranium, sounds very right to me
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18:41:31  <V453000> :D cool
18:41:48  <V453000> on that note, I am surprised how dead the 32bpp forum is
18:42:50  <Alberth> the entire forum is somewhat dead-ish
18:43:02  <Alberth> hardly any posts anymore
18:44:13  <Alberth> whether it's the time of the year, or people turning away from PC games, I don't know
18:46:04  <V453000> could be both
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18:46:26  <V453000> lets just hope there will be someone to play yeti :D
18:47:44  <Alberth> :)
18:48:26  <planetmaker> hm... grl? Was that once a toy of yours?
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18:48:57  <V453000> yes I often toy with grls
18:49:10  <planetmaker> yeah, that, too :P
18:49:39  <Alberth> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=651701#p651701
18:49:44  <planetmaker> and re uranium: I concur about how to show that
18:50:11  <V453000> grate
18:50:25  <Alberth> prepare for a big flash-back, lots of ttdpatch gurus in that thread :)
18:51:04  <V453000> that doesnt mean I know a single one Alberth  :P
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18:52:36  <Tramvai> How would I go about creating a two-way station with in-station turn-around disabled?
18:52:55  <Tramvai> I guess I'd just have to go with two different stations, yeah?
18:53:21  <Alberth> two-way, as in coming from both directions?
18:53:23  <planetmaker> provide turn-around tracks at both sides
18:53:30  <planetmaker> but I'd simply activate that setting
18:53:40  <planetmaker> to the state that trains can turn in stations
18:53:48  <V453000> probably some dumb ass server admin has it turned off I assume :P
18:54:13  <Alberth> it's "realistic" :p
18:55:37  <Alberth> although in all fairness, while playing TTD, I did find it looking weird, trains that turn around just like that :)
18:56:08  <V453000> sure, part of the reason why I like 2-headed trains (:
18:56:55  <Alberth> oh yeah, playing with the newest nuts currently with double headed locs currently :)
18:57:07  <Alberth> it looks great :)
18:59:08  <Alberth> playing in sub-tropical is a bit of a nasty business, no city is big enough to accept goods
18:59:11  <V453000> the unproblematic autoreplace is nice
19:00:09  <Alberth> I noticed you added some wagons to the shorter locomotives, didn't try autoreplace with them though
19:00:38  <Alberth> getting rid of the non-universal wagons was also a good move, imho
19:02:06  <V453000> autoreplace works with every vehicle, to every vehicle
19:02:11  <V453000> the wagons are there just to keep the lengths
19:02:31  <Alberth> yeah, very useful
19:02:35  <V453000> the non-universal wagons can be obtained back by parameters, in case someone specifically needs to (can have super specific uage in FIRS)
19:02:44  <Tramvai> It's off by default. :S
19:03:52  <Alberth> you need to refit the train anyway, in most cases
19:04:40  <V453000> indeed, and in order to shorten the purchase menu, it makes the wagon menu only less than 40% of what it used to be
19:04:43  <V453000> which is great already
19:04:50  <V453000> if you add expiring vehicles, it is really nice
19:05:34  <Alberth> I also have a bigger diversity of engines running now, it seems
19:06:01  <V453000> :)
19:06:18  <V453000> well the idea generally is to choose one and adapt the network to that, but you know :P
19:07:05  <Alberth> in the past, the choice was simple, "strong" for everything, except pax
19:07:34  <V453000> for you perhaps :D but strong is really good almost always, that is true
19:07:35  <Alberth> but your double-head trains, and meow track types messed that up :)
19:07:59  <V453000> (:
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19:13:13  <Tramvai> Hahaha, 1300 citizens in a city. 950 of them waiting in the bus station.
19:13:59  <Alberth> city population and number of waiting passengers are not much related :)
19:14:38  <Taede> just wait till its the other way around
19:15:38  <planetmaker> Tramvai, that's nothing uncommon in touristy places. E.g. look at Stavanger, a place of 1000(?) inhabitants with cruise ships going there with 5000 on board. Several anchoring there regularily
19:16:15  <Tramvai> That's true :)
19:16:20  <V453000> -> REALISTIC
19:17:17  <planetmaker> it was so frigging crowded I fled that place as soon as I realised
19:17:58  <Alberth> taking a random cruise ship away from it! :)
19:18:07  <V453000> (:
19:18:14  <V453000> taking a random slug?
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19:21:57  <frosch123> hmm, maybe i should use grl syntax
19:22:12  <V453000> grl syntax is quite hard to master
19:22:29  <V453000> throws out random errors often
19:22:57  <frosch123> not that random, usually 50% of the genetics are from her
19:23:09  <planetmaker> Alberth, no, those ships are not worth a crime ;)
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21:30:09  <frosch123> has there been a new osx release?
21:30:28  <frosch123> it's insane how often the same year-old bug is suddenly reported
21:32:21  <Diablo-D3> not yet
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23:03:06  <Wolf01> 'night
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