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00:16:27 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 00:28:49 *** OpenGame [~bird@p4FED0D25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 00:29:10 <OpenGame> Is an admin online? 00:33:20 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:33:49 <Sylf> Admin in what sense? 00:34:14 <Sylf> Or admin of what resource? 00:34:41 <OpenGame> someone who can activate central user management system accounts on the Openttd page 00:35:25 <Sylf> ah. You'll probably have to wait for a few hours - for European morning or later. 00:35:57 <OpenGame> there is no way to request a second email right? 00:36:40 <Sylf> I don't know 00:37:46 <OpenGame> I will try tomorrow again, thanks for trying to help 00:38:52 *** OpenGame [~bird@p4FED0D25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 00:39:18 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 01:02:56 *** Nemoder [quasselcor@63.142.210.189] has left #openttd [http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.] 01:07:04 *** Chunkr_ [~Chunkr@193.107.221.62] has joined #openttd 01:11:07 *** Chunkr [~Chunkr@193.107.221.62] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:14:51 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:20:28 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:35:41 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:40:38 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 01:47:28 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 01:48:33 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:49:33 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:53:37 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has joined #openttd 01:54:05 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:55:55 *** OdinYggd [~Odin@cpe-74-74-79-231.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:56:02 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:56:31 *** luizrpgluiz [~oftc-webi@201-68-62-50.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #openttd 01:56:45 <luizrpgluiz> hi devs :) 01:56:56 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 01:57:41 <OdinYggd> Is there a way to dry out lakes? I'm on a map right now that has a lot of sea level areas that are full of water but cut off from the main ocean. Raising them to grade would be costly, but if I could dry them as-is I could use them as they are 01:59:02 <luizrpgluiz> why not put apartments in openttd? 01:59:38 <luizrpgluiz> and also does not put factories? 02:00:34 *** Chunkr_ [~Chunkr@193.107.221.62] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:01:24 <luizrpgluiz> ? 02:02:21 <OdinYggd> Factories already exist though. They convert steel livestock or grain to goods 02:02:57 <OdinYggd> Though factories can be established in city blocks, and indeed many cities grew up around a large factory, they tend to keep to themselves because people don't like the smoke and noise. 02:02:57 <luizrpgluiz> and apartments? 02:03:21 <OdinYggd> Dunno. I would imagine that most of your city high rises are a mix of offices and apartments 02:03:25 <OdinYggd> they just aren't tagged as such 02:05:04 <luizrpgluiz> but it would be possible to put apartments for rent by each company? such as opening a real estate 02:15:57 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:25:14 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 02:27:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@88.130.184.195] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 02:31:52 <luizrpgluiz> exit 02:32:04 *** luizrpgluiz [~oftc-webi@201-68-62-50.dsl.telesp.net.br] has left #openttd [] 02:43:26 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.126.62] has quit [Quit: www.AdiIRC.com - Building a better IRC client.] 03:29:25 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:31:32 <Sylf> this discussion feels and smells like the continuation of the tt-forums posts... 03:32:43 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:32:44 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:33:06 <Sylf> OdinYggd, there is no inexpensive way of drying the lakes. You either raise the lake area's land level, or use the demolish tool on the entire lake area. 03:34:02 <OdinYggd> I didn't know the bomb tool could do it 03:34:11 <OdinYggd> That in itself is good to know 03:35:07 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 03:35:21 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:38:31 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 03:43:09 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:43:30 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 04:30:35 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db5c852.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 04:32:30 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@201.22.31.53.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33:52 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 04:40:27 *** guru3_ [~guru3@90-230-86-71-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:45 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:40:49 *** evansbee [~evansbee@pool-108-50-218-204.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 04:43:03 *** moffi [~moffi@dsdf-4db5c852.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:48:35 *** |xk05| [~xk05@70.176-62-69.ftth.swbr.surewest.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC661DA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD50EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:36:42 *** guru3 [~guru3@000128ea.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:35:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:50:55 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:51:29 <andythenorth> is the livery UI for mail wagons driven by cargo prop 15? 06:51:43 * andythenorth is looking for reasons why FIRS mail is freight, and default mail is not 06:53:15 <planetmaker> mail is always fright 06:53:24 <planetmaker> moin andythenorth :) 06:54:25 <andythenorth> FIRS causes mail cars to use freight livery 06:54:43 <andythenorth> whereas default industries do not 06:54:54 <planetmaker> what else would they use? Passengers? Would sound wrong 06:55:01 <andythenorth> yes, pax 06:55:41 <planetmaker> but... my letters don't have legs? 06:56:20 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:a458:a4e2:c1ce:86b] has joined #openttd 06:56:23 <andythenorth> itâs not so much logic as consistency 06:56:30 <andythenorth> mail is redefined from default for no good reason 06:56:37 <andythenorth> which causes vehicle set bugs 06:56:49 <planetmaker> :) Then don't re-define it 06:57:09 <planetmaker> would make a good patch, only code removal without feature loss :) 06:57:22 <andythenorth> I donât know which prop is doing it ;) 06:57:32 <andythenorth> I thought maybe is_freight (prop 15) 06:58:03 <planetmaker> Honestly, I'm not sure there is a way to force pax livery for non-pax cargoes 06:58:17 <planetmaker> probably driven by cc_passengers class 06:58:32 <planetmaker> but I didn't look up openttd code 06:58:36 * andythenorth wonders if something is hard-coded in ottd code 06:58:45 <andythenorth> by cargo bit or such 06:58:46 <planetmaker> pax / non-pax surely is 07:00:35 <planetmaker> yeah... 07:00:58 * andythenorth opens ottd src 07:02:49 <andythenorth> looks like it uses is_freight 07:02:51 <andythenorth> hmm 07:04:08 <planetmaker> if (!CargoSpec::Get(cargo_type)->is_freight) { 07:04:11 <planetmaker> yeah 07:05:15 <planetmaker> which is prop. 0x15 07:05:24 <planetmaker> case 0x15: // Freight status 07:05:24 <planetmaker> cs->is_freight = (buf->ReadByte() != 0); 07:12:16 * andythenorth fixes FIRS 07:44:07 *** trendynick [~trendynic@188.26.254.57] has joined #openttd 07:45:57 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:47:31 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91.65.115.103] has joined #openttd 07:47:46 <andythenorth> another day, another horse 07:51:57 <planetmaker> :) 07:53:36 <andythenorth> train sets are quite fun 07:53:42 <andythenorth> the sprites are mostly symmetrical 07:54:00 <andythenorth> and the consists can be adjusted by player, so stats on each vehicle arenât so hard to figure out 07:56:20 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 08:01:25 *** OpenGame [~bird@p4FED0D25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 08:02:41 <OpenGame> Is an admin online who can activate my Webtranslator account? The username is same as here. I got no email so I wasn't able to complete the registration. 08:11:08 * Xaroth|Work points at planetmaker 08:11:11 * Xaroth|Work runs 08:11:43 <OpenGame> thanks Xaroth|Work 08:11:53 <Xaroth|Work> he might be afk though 08:12:09 <Xaroth|Work> but that's the last admin-like person i've seen talk in the last few hours 08:12:30 <OpenGame> I hope he doesn't run away too ;) 08:17:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 08:19:30 * planetmaker grabs coffee mug and aims at Xaroth_ 08:19:44 * planetmaker reconsiders. Waste of good coffee 08:22:31 <planetmaker> OpenGame, what language do you apply for? 08:22:36 <Xaroth|Work> you're aiming at the wrong one too 08:22:56 <planetmaker> Xaroth|Work, don't dare to say you're innocent. Thus can't be wrong ;) 08:23:24 <Xaroth|Work> There is no such thing as innocence, only degrees of guilt. 08:23:45 <OpenGame> planetmaker German 08:23:52 <planetmaker> OpenGame, and did you write an application e-mail to the translator e-mail address? if so: when? 08:24:03 <Xaroth|Work> and in case you understood that reference: blood for the blood god! 08:24:13 <OpenGame> no I didn't - I just saw it on the main page and clicked on the lovely heart ;) 08:25:05 <planetmaker> well, http://translator.openttd.org/en/faq usually explains that applying there via e-mail is the usual behaviour. anyhow, don't worry now 08:26:04 <planetmaker> actually... worry now. I don't see any account with your nick registered with OpenTTD services 08:28:09 <OpenGame> if I try to register again with same name it tells me there is an acc with that name already 08:28:28 <planetmaker> you mean 'OpenGame'? 08:28:36 <OpenGame> yes 08:29:02 <planetmaker> maybe you had an account like 5+ years ago and didn't migrate it to our single-sign-on back then? 08:29:14 <OpenGame> I signed up yesterday for first time :P 08:29:56 <OpenGame> 'An account with that username already exists.' 08:30:03 <planetmaker> well, then maybe someone else did in ye ol' days. Those nicks are taken but inaccessible 08:31:41 <OpenGame> I have been able to sign up successfully - I think the email server was just down so I got no email. 08:33:15 <OpenGame> or the emailserver IP is blacklisted 08:34:51 <planetmaker> well, there is no user 'OpenGame' in our database which I see. 08:35:02 <__ln__> emails get queued for later delivery if some server is down in between 08:35:41 <planetmaker> ^ that also 08:38:21 <OpenGame> Weird... I will try a new name 08:39:09 <planetmaker> do you use some weired e-mail address which is hosted microsoft or one of its 'services'? They sometimes act up and fail to provide proper e-mail services 08:39:19 <OpenGame> I just wanted to translate the last 25 missing strings for the German language 08:39:22 <OpenGame> nope a stable one 08:40:05 <planetmaker> heieiei. commits in the weekend brought many new strings it seems :) 08:40:26 <__ln__> OpenGame: will you be using google translate? 08:40:33 <OpenGame> lol if I try to sign up and press the Go to next step button I see no error now but it won't go on 08:40:49 <OpenGame> __ln__ I hope you are kidding. I'm a native speaker. 08:41:37 <__ln__> i also hope i'm kidding, but one can never know for sure 08:42:00 <planetmaker> __ln__, I've rarely seen that with OpenTTD translations 08:44:12 <OpenGame> " An account with that email already exists." now 08:45:03 <planetmaker> :) so... which e-mail (you can message in private as to not catch spam on it)? 08:46:13 <planetmaker> hm... strange... I don't find that either :S 08:46:38 <planetmaker> I wonder whether there's a separate DB for those where sign-up is not yet finished 08:46:45 <planetmaker> and if so: where :D 08:46:51 <OpenGame> maybe you can't see accounts which aren't active? 08:46:54 <OpenGame> yeah 08:52:08 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:52:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 08:54:41 <OpenGame> any plans now planetmaker? :P 08:56:41 <planetmaker> I will check with our sysadmin whether I miss anything. But there's nothing else what I can do now 08:57:27 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:53 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-138-19.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:57:56 <planetmaker> you could sign-up also at the #openttdcoop DevZone and start translating NewGRFs for now :) 08:58:26 <OpenGame> the account there is for everything right? not that I just signed up for a submodule but I try to log in on the main one 08:59:34 <planetmaker> dunno... where did you sign-up? 09:00:03 <OpenGame> http://account.openttd.org/en/signup 09:00:22 <planetmaker> there's tt-forums.net (our forums), there's openttd.org (our main site) and there's the #openttdcoop DevZone (3rd-party projects). Those three are different. 09:00:35 <planetmaker> The one you used is for openttd translations, bug reports and wiki indeed 09:00:42 <planetmaker> so that's the right one for the purpose 09:02:05 *** Netsplit magnet.oftc.net <-> solenoid.oftc.net quits: KenjiE20, Fuco, APTX, xintron, +michi_cc, @peter1138, dxtr, Yotson, Guest877, Osai, (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 09:03:05 *** Netsplit over, joins: Yotson, Ammler, APTX, KenjiE20, MTsPony, dxtr, Kurimus, @DorpsGek, Guest877, Godde (+9 more) 09:03:05 <planetmaker> hm 09:03:08 <OpenGame> okay then I have to wait I think planetmaker 09:03:56 <OpenGame> can I see the missing strings without sign in? 09:04:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v DorpsGek] by ChanServ 09:05:08 <planetmaker> I don't think via web translator 09:05:16 <planetmaker> but you can check the commits from the weekend 09:06:14 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/shortlog 09:07:07 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/log/ef1b203e2572/src/lang/english.txt rather. Newest two commits in that list 09:07:41 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 09:08:19 <planetmaker> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/diff/ef1b203e2572/src/lang/english.txt and http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/diff/dfdbef31916f/src/lang/english.txt 09:08:22 <OpenGame> okay thanks 09:09:50 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 09:10:01 <planetmaker> make sure translations are consistent with existing strings. But web translator usually has some suggestions about related ones 09:10:33 <planetmaker> there's also discussion threads about German translations in both, tt-forums as well as the German tt-ms forums. both threads are not currently active, but well :) 09:11:31 <planetmaker> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=39481 and I don't know / find now the thread in tt-ms.de 09:13:24 <OpenGame> np :) 09:17:26 <planetmaker> https://translator.openttdcoop.org/projects <-- might be interesting for you, too :D 09:18:38 <OpenGame> hm yeah 09:29:15 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:39:55 *** OpenGame [~bird@p4FED0D25.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 10:02:49 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> what else would they use? Passengers? Would sound wrong <-- i suppose the idea is that mixed passenger/mail trains all use the same livery 10:14:37 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:15:07 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, sure :) 10:23:37 <b_jonas> what do valuables (on continental) use? 10:24:21 <b_jonas> you could rename the livery from "passenger" to "two-way cargo" which would include passengers, mail, and valuables 10:26:18 <planetmaker> err-no-context. err-no-parse 10:37:00 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose valuables should be treated like mail 10:37:14 <Eddi|zuHause> wrt the livery 10:37:43 <planetmaker> probably 10:38:21 <__ln__> happy International Literacy Day to those who can read 10:40:40 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 11:17:20 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:49 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 11:21:44 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 11:32:13 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest1807 11:32:14 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:35:55 *** OdinYggd [~Odin@cpe-74-74-79-231.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:38:15 *** Guest1807 [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:05 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:57:45 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:00:16 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 12:22:29 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> reticulum.oftc.net quits: juzza1, UukGoblin, @Terkhen, trendynick, ^Spike^, guru3, JGR, ntx, dihedral, zeknurn, (+12 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:22:44 *** Netsplit over, joins: Brumi, TomyLobo, trendynick, guru3, ^Spike^, zeknurn, JGR, NGC3982, Cybertinus, Defaultti (+12 more) 12:23:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v Terkhen] by ChanServ 12:23:51 *** Netsplit kinetic.oftc.net <-> charon.oftc.net quits: efess, @DorpsGek, theholyduck, lastmikoi, Fuco, guru3, TomyLobo, Vadtec, Rubidium, MTsPony, (+88 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:24:00 *** Netsplit over, joins: SpComb, JGR, Sacro, keoz, George, jonty-comp, orudge, XeryusTC, Born_Acorn, KenjiE20 (+88 more) 12:25:06 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:25:59 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> solenoid.oftc.net quits: KenjiE20, Fuco, APTX, xintron, +michi_cc, @peter1138, dxtr, Osai, Guest877, Yotson, (+10 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 12:26:07 *** Netsplit over, joins: MJP, Yotson, Ammler, APTX, KenjiE20, MTsPony, dxtr, Kurimus, @DorpsGek, Guest877 (+10 more) 12:26:52 *** Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> coulomb.oftc.net quits: avdg, XeryusTC, heffer, @planetmaker, fonsinchen, Hirundo 12:27:02 *** Netsplit over, joins: @planetmaker, Hirundo, XeryusTC, avdg, fonsinchen, heffer 12:27:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v planetmaker] by ChanServ 12:28:51 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 12:45:12 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:49:20 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:49:37 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:13 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:12 *** mode/#openttd [+v Belugas] by ChanServ 12:59:55 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:00:10 <LSky`> planetmaker, did the logs end up helping you guys with finding the desync issue? 13:00:43 <planetmaker> LSky`, yes, only they made it possible 13:01:32 <LSky`> if there happens to be a similar issue, dont hesistate to request the logs again 13:02:10 <planetmaker> I will. count on it :) 13:02:14 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 13:02:19 *** theholyduck [~theholydu@172.245.30.36] has joined #openttd 13:02:33 <planetmaker> on the other hand: if you see a desync on server1/3, don't hesitate to start desync logging in the same manner :) 13:03:10 <LSky`> definitely 13:05:49 <planetmaker> it's sufficient to run the desync logging until the 1st desync occured. Thus turning it off afterwards might help reduce some load on the servers :) 13:06:03 <planetmaker> it can be quite a strain on it :) 13:06:46 <planetmaker> thus when you see one: turn on desync debugging. save game, load that very savegame, continue to play and hope it desyncs soon enough :P 13:07:25 <planetmaker> it kills all company passwords, though. Thus what I'd do: set some passwords and move users manually back to their company 13:09:37 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 13:14:45 <peter1138> trick: flag whether a company had a password in the save game 13:15:12 <peter1138> should be possible, saves messing with hashes or shit 13:30:40 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:42:28 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 14:01:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 14:12:28 *** LSky` [~LSky@5ED4B2EA.cm-7-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:34:17 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:37:18 <__ln__> http://www.dw.de/germany-wont-tolerate-sharia-police/a-17906086 14:38:15 <planetmaker> ^ I find that actually scary. Scary to not tolerate it. 14:40:21 <__ln__> i don't think starting one's own police force (and calling it police) is tolerated in many western countries. 14:47:23 <Eddi|zuHause> it's actually not illegal to call yourself "police", you just can't claim any rights that a normal police has. 14:48:06 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:48:11 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a guy who was prosecuted because he sold t-shirts which say "police", but he got cleared because the name "police" is not protected 14:48:16 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@108.61.152.252] has joined #openttd 14:49:06 <planetmaker> it's not even a German word. So... 14:49:24 <planetmaker> and it cannot be illegal to dress-up alike and try to talk to people in town... 14:49:43 <planetmaker> if people come and make up cases why that is illegal and succeed. Then it gets scary 14:50:13 <Pikka> planetmaker, impersonating a police officer isn't illegal in germany? 14:50:24 <planetmaker> Pikka, it is. But those people didn't and don't 14:50:43 <planetmaker> police is called Polizei in German. But they just had red jackets with 'sharia police' 14:50:44 * Pikka isn't sure what you meant by "dress-up alike" 14:50:54 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:51:37 <planetmaker> http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/scharia-polizei-in-wuppertal-salafisten-als-sharia-police-in-nrw-a-990152.html vs. https://www.google.com/search?q=polizei+uniform 14:52:05 <Pikka> I would expect someone wearing a uniform with the word "police" on it would have some kind of government authority 14:52:08 <Pikka> even if it's not a german word 14:52:38 <planetmaker> I would not. English is no official language here 14:52:57 <Pikka> that said, the article does make it sound like it was a one-off attention seeking stunt and the whole issue is a beat-up :) 14:53:50 <planetmaker> it does. But even if they go there every week or day. What grounds is there to fobid anyone to do that really? They don't look remotely like police 14:54:05 <planetmaker> It's different if they started to bully anyone. Then it's time to act 14:54:53 <planetmaker> but calling for anti-sharia-police laws like was already heard... that's just plain stupid :) 14:55:13 <planetmaker> alas, we live in times of hysteria 14:55:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 14:58:34 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 15:11:25 *** Midnightmyth [~quassel@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:27:04 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:32:10 <keoz> hello, world 15:33:52 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 15:39:46 <Eddi|zuHause> <planetmaker> I would not. 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I keep getting an error that the compiler cannot find âtable/strings.hâ. I checked this folder, it does not exist. How can I get âstrings.hâ? Iâm using Xcode. 17:44:03 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C39B5.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:45:43 <Rubidium> acb5649: sounds like xcode's conversion of our makefile failed 17:46:58 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26807 /trunk/src/lang (6 files) (2014-09-08 17:46:46 UTC) 17:46:59 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:47:00 <DorpsGek> catalan - 18 changes by juanjo 17:47:01 <DorpsGek> croatian - 29 changes by VoyagerOne 17:47:02 <DorpsGek> english_US - 29 changes by Supercheese 17:47:03 <DorpsGek> italian - 29 changes by lorenzodv 17:47:04 <DorpsGek> russian - 29 changes by Lone_Wolf 17:47:05 <DorpsGek> spanish - 12 changes by SilverSurferZzZ 17:48:33 <acb5649> Interesting, that would also explain some other bugs then. Where should I place the makefile for optimal detection? 17:49:04 <Rubidium> no idea, I don't use xcode or OS X 17:50:23 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 17:56:33 <acb5649> looks like I wasnât even including a makefile 18:01:36 <glx> makefile is auto generated by configure, I don't know how xcode handles that 18:01:59 <acb5649> not well, thatâs for sure 18:13:40 <acb5649> Iâm trying to resurrect ZodTTDâs iPad port, but there were no detailed instructions on how to actually compile everything. 18:16:48 <Rubidium> you are aware that the port can't be on itunes? 18:18:21 <Rubidium> primarily because Apple rejects GPL applications because they aren't compatible with their terms of service 18:18:50 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:21:46 <acb5649> well yeah, my intention was to put a version on the Cydia, the jailbrake app store. 18:25:59 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 18:27:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:28:38 <Wolf01> hi hi 18:30:00 <Alberth> moin 18:31:35 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 18:33:18 *** Julian_ [~5dce9dc4@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 18:34:11 <Julian_> Hi, can someone maybe help me with the OpenTTDLib query webpage ? I dont get it to run. Just get a blank white webpage if i open the example with my query ips. 18:42:36 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:47:59 <George> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/worldairlinersset/wiki/The_Team/diff?utf8=%E2%9C%93&version=12&version_from=7&commit=%D0%9F%D1%80%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%8C+%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%87%D0%B8%D1%8F 18:48:07 <George> Internal error 18:48:07 <George> 18:48:07 <George> An error occurred on the page you were trying to access. 18:48:07 <George> If you continue to experience problems please contact your Redmine administrator for assistance. 18:48:07 <George> 18:48:08 <George> If you are the Redmine administrator, check your log files for details about the error. 19:13:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:13:10 <andythenorth> o/ 19:14:12 <^Spike^> George see devzone channel :) 19:15:24 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:15:30 *** Nothing4You [N4Y@Nothing4You.w.tf-w.tf] has joined #openttd 19:16:12 *** acb5649 [~alexbridg@140-182-26-34.dhcp-in.iupui.edu] has quit [Quit: acb5649] 19:23:11 <Alberth> o/ 19:24:24 <Alberth> andythenorth: You are aware that Buildwas General Cargo Tram jumps towards the player in ____ view ? 19:24:40 <andythenorth> no but unsurprised :) 19:25:00 <andythenorth> might be borked offsets, or just bad sprites 19:25:30 <Julian_> can no one help me with openttdlib ? :( 19:26:56 <Alberth> both directions, don't if it's the same sprite 19:27:12 <Alberth> Julian_: very few server owners here apparently 19:28:08 <Julian_> I dont know :/ 19:29:48 <Alberth> andythenorth: smoke is also pretty bad 19:31:31 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 19:31:40 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 19:32:54 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:32:57 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 19:33:42 <Alberth> livestock makes a lot of money :) 19:33:42 <andythenorth> ha 19:33:46 <andythenorth> to all of it :) 19:33:52 <andythenorth> livestock making money? o_O 19:33:54 <andythenorth> shameful :o 19:34:03 <andythenorth> livestock should walk on itâs own 19:34:05 <andythenorth> its 19:35:37 <Alberth> and deny me my money? no thank you :p 19:36:03 <Rubidium> I guess the parma ham will get really tough then ;) 19:37:24 <andythenorth> another HEQS tram IRL! 19:37:24 <andythenorth> http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=497029&nseq=144 19:37:28 <andythenorth> mixed track too 19:37:38 * andythenorth considers multi-gauge railtype 19:40:18 *** Julian_ [~5dce9dc4@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 19:43:26 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 19:44:59 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.126.62] has joined #openttd 19:46:19 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@187.58.245.195] has joined #openttd 19:46:56 <planetmaker> good evening 19:50:33 <Alberth> evenink 19:52:14 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:53:31 <b_jonas> andythenorth: multi-gauge? isn't that a train type that can run on two rail types? 19:54:33 <andythenorth> mixed gauge then 19:54:36 <andythenorth> terminology :P 19:56:04 <b_jonas> but what's that like? 19:56:11 <b_jonas> does it have three rails? 19:57:29 <andythenorth> itâs in the linked picture 19:59:32 <b_jonas> oh 19:59:36 <b_jonas> I see 20:04:01 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 20:08:13 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [] 20:08:47 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has joined #openttd 20:09:20 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [] 20:11:46 <b_jonas> is there a way to make a special railway waypoint that warns me with a message if a train ever passes through it, to debug rail routing? 20:12:10 <planetmaker> no such thing exists 20:12:56 <b_jonas> ok 20:13:23 *** Netsplit magnet.oftc.net <-> resistance.oftc.net quits: eQualizer, DabuYu, Ttech, Eddi|zuHause, @Belugas, orudge, George, tyteen4a03, ATS63, Extrems1, (+40 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:13:41 *** Netsplit over, joins: Sacro, George, jonty-comp, orudge, Born_Acorn, keoz, eLbot, mikegrb, dfox, Xaroth_ (+40 more) 20:14:04 <planetmaker> interesting. that split was said to split accross the atlantic ;) 20:15:01 <Rubidium> interesting definition of atlantic 20:16:15 <b_jonas> I'm in the early stage of this game now, building simple coal trains to get some money, and buses to grow the towns, so I don't need debugging train routes yet 20:16:20 <b_jonas> but later it might be useful 20:16:39 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> osmotic.oftc.net quits: Flygon_, luaduck_zzz, FUZxxl_ 20:16:53 *** Netsplit over, joins: Flygon_, FUZxxl_, luaduck_zzz 20:16:53 <Rubidium> create a trap with signals? 20:17:02 <Rubidium> then it'll eventually show up as non-profitable 20:17:26 <b_jonas> won't the routing algorithm notice the trap and not route there? 20:17:34 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> larich.oftc.net quits: Vadtec, Xaroth_, KouDy, jpierre03_, Sylf 20:17:36 <b_jonas> whereas a waypoint won't influence where the train goes 20:17:42 <b_jonas> or so I hope 20:17:55 *** Netsplit over, joins: Vadtec, Sylf, KouDy, jpierre03_, Xaroth_ 20:17:55 <Rubidium> if you make the trap right it shouldn't 20:18:21 <b_jonas> I'm not sure how to make the trap that way then 20:18:36 <planetmaker> oh, everything has an influence on the path :) signals, track bends, level crossings, stations, waypoints, other trains, bridges, tunnels, slopes, 20:18:39 <b_jonas> btw, I really like this industrial stations newgrf 20:19:24 <Rubidium> http://rbijker.net/openttd/Condham%20Transport,%201950-01-17.png <- trap 20:19:32 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> charm.oftc.net quits: jonty-comp, Wolf01, davidstrauss, orudge, Xaroth|Work, Born_Acorn, Joakim, murr4y, TheIJ, +tokai|noir, (+4 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:19:44 *** Netsplit over, joins: Born_Acorn, orudge, jonty-comp, +tokai|noir, Wolf01, KWKdesign, Joakim, blathijs, Ttech, ATS63 (+4 more) 20:20:04 <b_jonas> Rubidium: ah, good idea 20:20:05 <Rubidium> and it doesn't influence the pathfinder as far as I can tell 20:20:16 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> weber.oftc.net quits: funnel, Cursarion, dfox, Nothing4You, urdh, tyteen4a03, mikegrb, eLbot, Sacro 20:20:30 *** Netsplit over, joins: Sacro, Nothing4You, urdh, funnel, tyteen4a03, Cursarion, eLbot, mikegrb, dfox 20:20:48 <Rubidium> you mustn't use path signals though, then it doesn't work at all 20:20:53 <b_jonas> right 20:21:03 <b_jonas> and this works with two-way signals too 20:21:49 *** Netsplit resistance.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: eQualizer, DabuYu, Eddi|zuHause, @Belugas, George, Extrems1, Djohaal, Rubidium, Pereba, berndj-blackout, (+9 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 20:22:59 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@vadtec.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:23:55 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@5275675.test.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:30 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #openttd 20:26:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:28:12 <b_jonas> stupid train, you're going the wrong way! 20:28:25 <b_jonas> arghed, I jinxed it when I said I wouldn't need to debug trains thsi early 20:28:47 <andythenorth> what is âdebugging trainsâ? 20:29:25 <glx> if train goes the wrong way it's a layout problem 20:29:34 <b_jonas> yep, it's a problem in my layout 20:29:37 <b_jonas> that's what I have to debug 20:30:05 <andythenorth> use the pro approach 20:30:06 <b_jonas> ah, I think I know the problem 20:30:08 <andythenorth> one track per train 20:30:08 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:a458:a4e2:c1ce:86b] has quit [Quit: .] 20:30:29 *** Vadtec [~Vadtec@vadtec.net] has joined #openttd 20:30:30 <b_jonas> they're going into depots then want to go back to the station before 20:30:42 <andythenorth> one track per train, no signals 20:30:55 <glx> ha yes depot placement must be smart 20:31:26 * andythenorth never has train routing problems 20:31:29 <andythenorth> or rooting problems 20:36:42 *** Netsplit over, joins: DabuYu, InvokeStatic, kalenz_, keoz, ccfreak2k, Rubidium, Djohaal 20:36:42 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 20:36:49 *** Netsplit over, joins: theholyduck, jinks, ivan`, Eddi|zuHause, Supercheese 20:36:49 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 20:36:52 *** Netsplit over, joins: berndj-blackout 20:36:52 *** eQualizer [~lauri@46.163.226.192] has joined #openttd 20:37:14 *** Netsplit over, joins: Pereba 20:37:20 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:37:44 *** Netsplit over, joins: George 20:41:20 <b_jonas> um 20:42:05 <b_jonas> how do I make the train load a full wagon of coal to half its carriages rather than loading half a wagon of coal to each carriage? 20:42:21 <b_jonas> I have trains that serve two coal mines that are very close to each other 20:43:15 <glx> disable gradual loading maybe 20:49:04 <andythenorth> itâs the same result no? 20:49:12 <andythenorth> 250t coal in a 500t train? or whatever? 20:49:45 <b_jonas> andythenorth: yes, but different source stations 20:50:07 <b_jonas> but it probably doesn't matter 20:50:08 <andythenorth> use a 50% load order 20:50:15 <andythenorth> youâll have to patch for it first :( 20:50:39 <glx> each cargo packet knows from where it comes 20:50:46 <b_jonas> I think I should just leave it this way 20:50:49 <glx> so it doesn't matter 20:50:52 <b_jonas> ok 20:51:07 <b_jonas> so it just doesn't display both sources in the train info dialog 20:51:42 <b_jonas> it probably doesn't matter for station ratings or industry production changes or income 20:51:46 <b_jonas> I won't try to fix it then 20:51:55 <glx> hehe imagine the dialog for passengers with cargo dist ;) 20:53:02 <b_jonas> well, I have four coal wagons on the train, so it could just list one station for the first two wagons and another for the next two wagons 20:53:19 <b_jonas> but it's not important really 20:54:19 <b_jonas> am I the only one who likes to use the autoroad tool but not the autorail tool? 20:58:50 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@108.61.152.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:58:51 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@108.61.152.252] has joined #openttd 21:03:04 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:06:42 *** jpierre03_ [~jpierre03@voyage.prunetwork.fr] has joined #openttd 21:10:15 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 21:11:40 * andythenorth wonders if tram tracks show up in industry tile landscape checks 21:11:44 * andythenorth spec 21:13:04 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:13:14 <frosch123> i doubt that 21:13:20 <andythenorth> var 60 has nothing for it 21:13:28 <b_jonas> whew, good thing I loaded this ship newgrf to this game 21:13:29 <andythenorth> I canât read the tile bits directly? 21:13:36 <b_jonas> now I have a cheap ship to build 21:13:47 <frosch123> of course you can't 21:13:50 <andythenorth> every so often this fricking petrol stations -> tram tracks bug gets reported 21:13:55 <frosch123> they changed like 10 times 21:13:58 <frosch123> would be hell to support 21:14:01 <andythenorth> he :) 21:14:21 <andythenorth> if I removed that petrol stations feature, Iâd get the bug reported that they donât build near roads 21:15:41 <b_jonas> petrol stations? 21:15:55 <andythenorth> gas stations 21:15:58 <Wolf01> 'night 21:16:04 <andythenorth> or however itâs translated 21:16:07 <b_jonas> yeah 21:16:09 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 21:16:12 <b_jonas> but what are those in ottd? 21:16:16 <b_jonas> depots? 21:16:39 <andythenorth> petrol stations are petrol stations 21:16:41 <andythenorth> industry 21:16:48 <andythenorth> sometimes house 21:16:49 <andythenorth> depends 21:16:56 <andythenorth> pikka has them as houses 21:17:01 <andythenorth> I have industry 21:18:07 <frosch123> night 21:18:09 <b_jonas> oh 21:18:11 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f7422c0.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:18:39 <andythenorth> b_jonas: which ships? 21:19:14 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 21:21:39 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:22:20 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 21:23:54 <b_jonas> ships from the FISH ship set 21:24:14 <b_jonas> gives me a cheap ship which I use to make a town on an island grow 21:24:15 <andythenorth> that oneâs rubbish 21:24:22 <andythenorth> I wouldnât touch it 21:24:36 <b_jonas> can you recommend another one then, for next game? 21:25:00 <andythenorth> Squid Ate FISH! 21:25:05 <andythenorth> (FISH 2 on bananas) 21:26:52 <b_jonas> Fish 2? ok 21:30:16 <andythenorth> bye 21:30:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:31:11 <b_jonas> stupid industries are starting to close because of supply problems. do they expect me to supply everything at once? 21:34:44 <FLHerne> b_jonas: If you can't supply everything anyway, why do you care about the industries closing? 21:34:47 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 21:35:47 <Eddi|zuHause> b_jonas: well, sorta. there is a protective period of like 5 years after game start, then practically everything you didn't connect yet closes... 21:36:26 <Eddi|zuHause> which, on larger maps, leaves you with vast stretches of unindustrialized landscape 21:38:05 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C39B5.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 21:38:19 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1B969.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:40:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:45:53 <b_jonas> yep 21:46:25 <b_jonas> so now I have to check where the factories and sawmills and steel mills are located and connect some so they don't cloas 21:47:44 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:49:40 <b_jonas> oh, they removed this steel mill 21:52:17 <FLHerne> b_jonas: You only really need one of each 21:52:42 <FLHerne> The annoying thing is when they close after you've started building a route to them 21:56:15 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 22:03:05 *** TomyLobo [~foo@91.65.115.103] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 22:04:24 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@108.61.152.252] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:04:30 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:24:44 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:34:19 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 22:37:10 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 22:46:59 <b_jonas> I built trucks. I know I'll regret this. Trucks are a pain. 23:06:54 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:08:39 *** trendynick [~trendynic@188.26.254.57] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:24:43 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd