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00:00:25 <SpComb> svn: bash: command not found 00:10:53 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:11:16 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 00:12:08 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@vpnx177.nemendur.hi.is] has joined #openttd 00:14:26 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 00:14:32 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:27:20 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r26854 trunk/src/widget.cpp (2014-09-20 00:27:14 UTC) 00:27:21 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Don't override computed minimal size with static minimal size, instead only increase it. 00:27:31 <SpComb> peter1138 go to sleep 00:27:47 <peter1138> +widget :S 00:27:50 <peter1138> oh well 00:27:54 <peter1138> SpComb, why 00:28:40 <peter1138> still got 30 minutes of this album to go 00:33:10 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:47:59 <Eddi|zuHause> oh... and of course i run into a signalling issue immediately :p 02:18:14 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 02:23:33 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@vpnx177.nemendur.hi.is] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:48:54 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46-239-219-51.tal.is] has joined #openttd 02:50:59 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 02:52:20 *** djmattyg007 [~djmattyg0@CPE-120-149-26-157.oirx1.vic.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:59:25 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:10:58 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C35BE.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 03:27:55 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:40:49 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:51:13 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 04:11:49 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3D07.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 04:32:02 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, level crossings are weird... 04:32:19 <Eddi|zuHause> can construct them one way, but not the other... 04:36:15 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:42:30 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:52:37 <NGC3982> Morning. 04:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD5133.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 04:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67B14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:02:46 <NGC3982> Is there any good way to measure the network health of my public server? 05:03:12 <NGC3982> I can't seem to see anything wrong with the network i'm on, but i have problems with maintaining connection to my own server. 05:06:33 *** Taede [~Taede@90.217.179.179] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:07:12 *** Taede [~Taede@90.217.179.179] has joined #openttd 06:15:40 *** DanMacK [~63f912e8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 06:22:59 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 06:25:51 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:46:29 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 06:59:18 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18C53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:00:37 *** DanMacK [~63f912e8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 07:04:26 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:ad9d:e0d9:5695:4aa2] has joined #openttd 07:17:23 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:17:32 <andythenorth> o/ 07:19:59 <Pikka> D: 07:25:35 *** andythenorth [~andytheno@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:31:02 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18C53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:31:08 * NGC3982 loves Kalles Kaviar. 08:37:49 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 08:55:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r26855 trunk/src/widget.cpp (2014-09-20 08:55:35 UTC) 08:55:42 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Render vertical scrollbars the same as horizontal scrollbars, with sprites instead of text. 08:56:19 <planetmaker> \o/ 08:57:00 <peter1138> that is actually to make bigger sprites work, but it also makes opengfx scrollbars not look like arse at the same time 08:57:28 <planetmaker> yeah, I know :) 08:57:54 <planetmaker> especially biggui had been a sad thing with those 08:58:50 <peter1138> Well, I'm testing like this... http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/double.png 08:59:05 <peter1138> (that scrollbar is pre-that commit) 08:59:21 <planetmaker> :) 08:59:36 <planetmaker> nice, so those are auto-scaled gui sprites? 08:59:38 <peter1138> X button needs to be a sprite instead of text, too 08:59:43 <planetmaker> yup 09:00:00 <planetmaker> also the drop-down button. But that's the same sprite as vertical scrollbar, I think? 09:00:10 <peter1138> here's a trick, they're autoscaled anyway, just only the non-zoomed ones are used 09:00:20 <peter1138> in src/zoom_type.h ... ZOOM_LVL_GUI = 09:00:27 <peter1138> change that to 2X instead of 4X and you get a double size ui 09:00:42 <michi_cc> peter1138: http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/git/openttd.git/shortlog/refs/heads/ui_wip (from many moons ago) 09:00:48 <peter1138> planetmaker, yes, that's the same. i'm going to sort that too 09:01:00 <peter1138> michi_cc, :) 09:01:16 <peter1138> these patches i'm doing are also ancient :) 09:01:24 <planetmaker> peter1138, so grfs can then define the other zooms and bit depths for sprites, too, yes? 09:01:38 <planetmaker> so that automatically the correctly-zoomed is chosen? 09:01:41 <peter1138> planetmaker, yes 09:01:44 <planetmaker> sweet 09:01:47 <michi_cc> http://www.icosahedron.de/openttd/git/openttd.git/commitdiff/27e53256f06a6e6cefe7b091a57a43525aaede22 :p 09:01:56 <peter1138> planetmaker, but it looks like i don't need to write it cos michi_cc's done it 09:02:01 <planetmaker> :D 09:02:34 <planetmaker> better continue with it and 'steal' it before there's bit rot again festering on those patches 09:02:42 <peter1138> although it's from 2012, so may need updating 09:02:49 <peter1138> hrh 09:03:09 <peter1138> michi_cc, we at least think the same way :) 09:03:21 <peter1138> planetmaker, this is one of the reasons why i don't like the big buttons in zbase 09:03:27 <peter1138> it doesn't... make sense! 09:04:10 <planetmaker> peter1138, I fully agree 09:04:56 <planetmaker> re-visiting zbase GUI sprites is definitely on my agenda. But I miss good sprites for the other zoom levels other than 2x (or is it 4x?) 09:05:46 <peter1138> it has 2x sprites (in the 4x slot) 09:06:56 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.121.131.100] has joined #openttd 09:08:29 <peter1138> i was actually surprised it worked so well 09:09:23 <planetmaker> most GUI sprites scaled already. But not all... And then zbase doesn't have 2x sprites everywhere and seems to miss some sprites altogether 09:09:31 <peter1138> yeah 09:09:36 <planetmaker> (which then are replaced by its underlaying 8bpp OpenGFX sprites) 09:09:49 <peter1138> i mean i'm surprised this hack to ZOOM_LVL_GUI worked :) 09:09:56 <planetmaker> he :) 09:10:25 <peter1138> i actually remember having it in my mind when i added the extra zoom levels but then did nothing with it, never even tested it 09:12:00 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15:46 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 09:18:17 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 09:18:29 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r26856 trunk/src/company_gui.cpp (2014-09-20 09:18:22 UTC) 09:18:30 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Ensure company face widgets can fit company face. 09:23:43 <fonsinchen> Does anyone have a save game with lots of "refit to available cargo" and other complicated order constructs? I'd like to test a patch and am too lazy to construct the test case myself ;) 09:25:18 <V453000> only refit to specific cargo in depot 09:25:21 * Rubidium doesn't 09:26:16 <planetmaker> hm, not that I know a savegame with much of that. I mostly refit to specific cargoe 09:29:22 <peter1138> i've never used a refit order 09:30:55 <peter1138> Any objections to http://fuzzle.org/~petern/ottd/settings_buttons.diff ? 09:31:34 <peter1138> makes the expand/collapse buttons, and the frames, match other windows. 09:32:28 <peter1138> Also allows the button height to match the resize button height 09:33:57 <peter1138> Hmm, I'm sure I fixed my webserver to serve diffs as plaintext :S 09:35:10 <peter1138> Hmm, similar issue with the map window, although that doesn't get the outer frames wrong. 09:36:45 <Rubidium> me likey patchey 09:39:53 <planetmaker> yeah, +1. I really needed to search to find the collaps and expand buttons. I guess I never used them ;) 09:41:31 <DorpsGek> Commit by fonsinchen :: r26857 trunk/src/economy.cpp (2014-09-20 09:41:25 UTC) 09:41:32 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6110]: Reserve cargo after refitting and only if necessary. 09:41:47 <peter1138> Argh, my mouse is playing up :( 09:42:33 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 09:42:37 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 09:45:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:56:00 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:56:08 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host116-238-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 09:56:10 <Wolf01> hi hi 09:57:25 <Alberth> moin 09:57:42 <planetmaker> hi ho 09:58:11 <LordAro> o/ 09:58:28 <V453000> what says if an industry dies or not? 09:58:38 <Alberth> you do 09:59:05 <V453000> but which part of the code 09:59:30 <V453000> my industries seem to have started dying for no reason while being well serviced 09:59:34 <V453000> am wondering what could have changed 09:59:50 <keoz> V453000: industry_cmd.cpp 10:00:02 <V453000> wat 10:00:12 <V453000> I mean newgrf 10:00:25 <V453000> (: 10:00:44 <keoz> in FIRS there's a piece of code defining ndustry closure 10:01:43 <keoz> in src/templates/check_secondary_closure.pnml 10:02:56 <keoz> you might have a look. FIRS only closes secondary industries though. For myself, i recoded some parts of FIRS to have a general closure mechanism. If you want, I can give it to you. 10:03:29 <V453000> I see 10:03:45 <V453000> I think I would do it a bit differently but thats fine 10:03:57 <V453000> where do I actually put the switch? 10:04:16 <Alberth> planetmaker: default tooltip popup time is a little short isn't it? Also, it broke my right button setting :( 10:05:03 <keoz> V453000: couldn't say. I just was able to modify already parts of FIRS but that's all. 10:05:03 <Alberth> V453000: your industry nml code page is very good 10:05:13 <V453000> :d thanks :D 10:05:20 <planetmaker> Alberth, how did it break it? Just set it anew (it's a new setting) 10:05:25 <V453000> yeah, thanks keoz :) 10:05:28 <peter1138> That reminds me... as oil rigs supposed to "produce" passengers? 10:05:51 <peter1138> Have passengers, yes of course. 10:06:12 <Alberth> planetmaker: I had my config to right button, and now it started popping up almost immediately all the time 10:06:20 <peter1138> "Passenger production at X oil rig increases 100%" feels a bit... odd. 10:06:33 <Alberth> perhaps you ignored the right button setting? 10:06:33 <planetmaker> Alberth, but not sure it's too short... 10:07:15 <planetmaker> Alberth, the old setting value prior to the changeset is ignored. Just set it anew. Or did you after that change? 10:08:46 <keoz> Alberth: if you remember our last discussion: any chance you could reload your savegame where you didn't see the storybook, with the last revision on my script ? I changed some things, the problem might be solved. 10:08:53 <planetmaker> in case of doubt set the hover time manually to 0 milliseconds 10:09:42 <Alberth> planetmaker: length of the interval is quite debatable, let's leave that. No I didn't change anything, it started popping up by itself, which seems to correspond with your patch ignoring the previous setting 10:09:54 <Rubidium> hover time 0 == right click 10:10:09 <Rubidium> was so in the past and still is so 10:10:31 <Alberth> Rubidium: yeah, I changed it already, but why wasn't that copied from the previous version? 10:10:41 <planetmaker> Alberth, if I had re-used the old setting, it would have had a hover time of 1 millisecond - even shorter :) 10:10:49 <planetmaker> I wanted a better default 10:10:59 <planetmaker> for all those who have already an openttd.cfg 10:11:01 <Rubidium> because a new setting was made (and because converting settings in the cfg is a PITA because you go back AND forth between versions as dev) 10:12:09 <Alberth> planetmaker: copying rmb setting and ignoring default length (which I agree was too small) are two different things I think 10:12:43 <Alberth> but ok, it's just a single value 10:13:51 <Alberth> keoz: euhm, right, do you happen to know the filename? 10:13:54 <peter1138> Didn't I suggest 500ms as a sensible default? 10:14:06 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 10:14:10 <peter1138> Yeah, that feels more normal to me. 10:14:45 <Alberth> peter1138: for new users it can be useful, they can also change the default if they want 10:15:05 <peter1138> Yes exactly. 10:15:21 <peter1138> 250ms is a bit short as you say. 10:15:52 <planetmaker> peter1138, Alberth everyone suggests another length... 10:16:05 <peter1138> planetmaker, I always suggested 500ms :p 10:16:05 *** luaduck_zzz [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:16:17 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 10:16:19 <peter1138> And that is at least a default that many systems use. 10:16:39 <planetmaker> I've no passion really about the default value. If you feel that 500 is a better one, be my guest and change it :) 10:16:40 <Alberth> I am not a good judge of interval length, I turn these things off very quickly, as they get in the way, hiding stuff I want to see 10:17:01 <keoz> Alberth: Lunnpool_Bridge_Transport_1881-04-29.sav and the new revision is available here: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=69827&p=1131905#p1131905 10:17:14 <keoz> If you have not the savegame anymore, I still have it. 10:17:15 <planetmaker> I chose it on the short end, so that new users see it and find it. Users who know it, know how to adjust the length. That was my reasoning 10:17:27 <planetmaker> I've seen more than one request why there aren't tooltips... 10:17:48 <Alberth> keoz: thanks. I do have a policy of not changing scripts etc mid-game, but I'll make an exception :) 10:18:05 <Alberth> planetmaker: 2 seconds is too long, I think we all agree on that :) 10:18:30 <keoz> Alberth: thank you :) 10:20:28 <peter1138> planetmaker, at 250ms, I get tooltips appearing a lot, as it's near the interval where precise positioning happens for me. 500ms reduces that tooltip-spam massively 10:21:08 <peter1138> (and that's with big fonts and big buttons :)) 10:21:19 <planetmaker> and if the majority here thinks the 250ms is too short... as said, I honestly don't mind. Lool, peter1138 :) 10:21:22 <peter1138> (Sure, I'm old!) 10:21:27 <planetmaker> pfft! 10:23:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r26858 /trunk/src (settings_gui.cpp smallmap_gui.cpp) (2014-09-20 10:23:38 UTC) 10:23:46 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Rearrange smallmap filter and settings expand/collapse buttons to fix frame borders and allow buttons to fit height of resize button. 10:29:06 *** Xaroth [~Xaroth@00017153.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:37:22 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #openttd 10:55:33 <Alberth> keoz: seems to work 10:56:16 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f745782.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 10:58:43 <Alberth> you may want to put the precise version in some document, it's hard to find out what you're using exactly 11:04:43 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:18:05 <keoz> thank you Alberth. Yes you're right, I'll search a way to do that?. 11:18:56 <Alberth> you may want to look how it's done in a newgrf project 11:19:39 <Alberth> the makefile does some magic there with finding the revision, and inserting it in text 11:31:41 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest294 11:31:43 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 11:33:00 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r26859 trunk/src/town_gui.cpp (2014-09-20 11:32:54 UTC) 11:33:01 <DorpsGek> -Fix [FS#6119]: Height computation of game script text in town GUI did not consider margins. 11:34:25 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@203-206-161-219.perm.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:37:55 *** Guest294 [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:56:45 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5DC67B14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:57:04 <Eddi|zuHause2> uhm weird... my computer just froze... 11:57:45 <frosch123> mine did as well, then i killed grfcodec and pulled an update 11:58:27 <Eddi|zuHause2> no, like not even ctrl+alt+f1 or ctrl+alt+backspace worked 11:58:58 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67B14.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:00:31 <frosch123> renice the "wolfi" process 12:01:08 <peter1138> oops 12:01:14 <peter1138> just deafened myself loading up 1.4.3 :S 12:01:17 <peter1138> err 12:01:18 <peter1138> 1.4.2 12:01:20 <Pikka> pardon? 12:01:40 <Pikka> who plays (O)TTD with the sound on anyway? 12:01:45 <V453000> ^ 12:01:53 <V453000> says the one who puts custom sounds in newgrfs XD 12:01:56 <frosch123> exactly 12:02:22 <Pikka> doesn't mean I want to listen to them :D 12:02:27 <V453000> :) 12:02:53 <frosch123> peter1138: you can disable various sound effects in advanced settings btw 12:02:56 <peter1138> i do have sounds on, but even if i didn't, i can't turn them off from the intro game 12:03:16 <V453000> peter1138: system sound :P 12:03:25 <frosch123> bu 12:03:26 <peter1138> and it's kind of awkward for new people too 12:03:31 <frosch123> but -s null -m null is the best anyway 12:03:38 <V453000> holy fuck sound effects setting 12:03:40 <V453000> didnt know about that 12:03:41 <V453000> nice :D 12:03:53 <V453000> news ticker can fuck off now 12:03:59 <frosch123> :p 12:04:00 <Pikka> if you turn the sounds effects down/off in a game, that stays put for the titlegame too, and on future loading... 12:04:06 <V453000> except I am probably never going to use sounds again 12:04:28 <frosch123> V453000: i think there was a specific setting for the ticker sound since 0.3 12:04:41 <V453000> :0 12:05:37 <frosch123> but nice that you found it :) maybe the settings are arranged better today after all 12:05:52 <V453000> no I wrote sound in the filter XD 12:05:58 <V453000> didnt even try to find it 12:06:15 <peter1138> yeah that filter is a godsend 12:06:19 <frosch123> well, the setting was in the news settings window before :p 12:06:26 <V453000> but really, where else to find it than interface 12:06:45 <V453000> well you could disable them but they would still make sounds? 12:06:50 <V453000> no 12:06:55 <V453000> you would disable news entirely 12:07:00 <V453000> then they would obviously not do the sound 12:07:10 <V453000> if I understand it right, now you can see the news but they make no sound 12:08:14 <frosch123> https://wiki.openttd.org/Message_settings <- see the screenshot 12:08:29 <frosch123> it was there, if you found it :) 12:08:40 <V453000> O_O 12:08:41 <V453000> :D 12:08:51 <V453000> if you found is apparently 0 for me 12:10:17 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 12:10:32 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 12:11:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26860 trunk/src/terraform_cmd.cpp (2014-09-20 12:11:15 UTC) 12:11:22 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: improve worst case performance of terraforming (O(n^2) -> O(n log n)) and let memory usage scale to the amount of tiles affected instead of allocating memory for the worst case scenario (patch by ic111) 12:12:13 <Eddi|zuHause> the ticker is bad anyway, it blocks real news from popping up 12:12:52 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium breaking patches again? 12:13:01 <Rubidium> yup 12:13:59 <Eddi|zuHause> if you're done with mhl, i'm sure the new map features provides a decent source for breaking patches :p 12:17:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:21:14 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:25:43 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r26861 trunk/src/widget.cpp (2014-09-20 12:25:36 UTC) 12:25:44 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Include height of dropdown image in dropdown widget. Draw vertically centred image in dropdown button. 12:27:15 <DorpsGek> Commit by peter1138 :: r26862 trunk/src/genworld_gui.cpp (2014-09-20 12:27:09 UTC) 12:27:16 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: Don't shrink widget size in new game window. 12:31:40 <Wolf01> peter1138, as you are playing with the UI, do you think a setting to double the size of any widget could work (a sort of "enable touch screen / big gui" setting)? 12:34:27 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 12:35:08 <peter1138> Wolf01, michi_cc has a patch for that... 12:36:44 <peter1138> Hmm, the tiny cargo sprites are kinda big at 2x :p 12:51:02 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 12:58:48 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has joined #openttd 13:03:38 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@213.205.251.201] has joined #openttd 13:06:18 <peter1138> errr 13:06:19 <peter1138> silly 13:06:28 <peter1138> making patches, testing, ended up playing a savegame instead :S 13:07:19 <Wolf01> at least you test it :P 13:08:48 <Pikka> http://i.imgur.com/0IddJV8.png 13:08:53 <Pikka> @ V453000 et al 13:09:20 <Pikka> "34,854"? 13:09:39 <V453000> interesting 13:11:19 * andythenorth_ out doing trains again 13:11:27 <Pikka> fun times 13:11:39 * Pikka in doing trains 13:11:44 <Pikka> and possibly hoverbunnies 13:12:09 <andythenorth_> Standing in a queue for balloons for twenty minutes 13:12:13 <V453000> does it even mean amount of cargo? 13:12:15 <V453000> idk about subsidies 13:12:22 <andythenorth_> Yak shaving 13:12:24 <Pikka> I don't think so 13:14:49 <andythenorth_> String issues 13:18:48 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@213.205.251.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:18:53 <peter1138> You've got a string code in a string that shouldn't have it 13:19:07 <Pikka> oh, those string issues 13:19:12 <Pikka> I thought he was talking about balloons 13:24:33 <V453000> (: 13:34:50 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@213.205.251.201] has joined #openttd 13:34:50 *** andythenorth_ [~andytheno@213.205.251.201] has quit [] 13:56:40 <Wolf01> lol, 10 days/s with fast forward on the new pc 13:57:04 <Wolf01> steam trains look like maglev 13:57:07 <Rubidium> slow pc 13:57:32 <Rubidium> FS#6117 is complaining about month/second 14:00:54 <Wolf01> ok, got rid of those (now) useless cabeese 14:06:48 <peter1138> Damn that STR_SILVER_CROSS 14:07:17 <Rubidium> is it exported to NewGRFs? 14:07:30 <peter1138> ? 14:07:49 <Rubidium> if not, then you can easily just refer to the sprite and remove the string code of it, right? 14:08:17 <peter1138> it's got a colour remap, which works because it's text 14:08:23 <peter1138> complete with a shadow 14:08:43 <peter1138> so to draw the sprite directly means i'd need to set up a remap, one for black and one for silver 14:09:02 <peter1138> not impossible but slightly more of a pain than just switching to drawsprite 14:15:22 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3D07.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 14:25:08 <frosch123> it's just used in the newspaper? 14:25:40 <frosch123> make it black instead? :p 14:27:00 <peter1138> yes, just there. on a white background, no less! 14:35:17 <Eddi|zuHause> lmao, the people tilt on a hig slope :p 14:35:23 <Eddi|zuHause> *high 14:35:34 <Eddi|zuHause> or better "steep" 14:56:57 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.121.131.100] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 14:59:06 <peter1138> hmm, turns out an audio cable works better when... it's plugged in 14:59:13 <peter1138> Eddi|zuHause? 14:59:45 <Eddi|zuHause> ? 14:59:51 <peter1138> slope? 14:59:51 <Eddi|zuHause> in train fever 14:59:54 <peter1138> ah 15:00:02 <Pikka> drain fewer 15:00:06 <Pikka> is it a great game or what? 15:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause> it's sort of alright. the graphics are amazing, the logic is a bit lacking, and the UI is a bit fiddly at times 15:01:09 <Eddi|zuHause> and one of the music titles sounds liáž±e a mashup of TTD music :p 15:10:54 <Pikka> hmm, mashups of TTD music 15:11:29 * Pikka wants the new soundtrack from the mobile Transport Tycoon. 15:12:38 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:20 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:21:24 <peter1138> hmm, guess i need to sort out the settings window 15:24:56 *** Pereba [~UserNick@179.177.167.238.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 15:26:07 <Supercheese> If you have the .apk for the new transport tycoon you can just extract the music from it. The quality is kinda eh, but it's there 15:29:51 <Eddi|zuHause> uhm... it's sort of impossible to doubletrack a diagonal bridge... 15:30:05 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has joined #openttd 15:30:12 *** KouDy [~koudy@188.75.190.58] has joined #openttd 15:30:16 <frosch123> what is diagonal? 15:30:21 <frosch123> isn't it all freeform? 15:31:06 <Eddi|zuHause> angled compared to the river 15:31:33 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26863 /trunk/src (11 files in 2 dirs) (2014-09-20 15:31:26 UTC) 15:31:34 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: move a number of Vehicle* functions into the Vehicle class 15:31:38 <Eddi|zuHause> no matter which side you start on, at some point it complains that it can't terraform the river, because on the other side it started the bridge too late 15:32:47 <frosch123> can't you define the start manually? 15:33:02 <frosch123> the bridge has to start somewhat away from the river 15:35:33 *** Mata [~oftc-webi@yhikas5.ttu.ee] has joined #openttd 15:37:18 <Eddi|zuHause> http://users.informatik.uni-halle.de/~krause/Bildschirmfoto27.png <-- the white area is where it automatically builds a dam instead of a bridge, this cannot be influenced manually. 15:37:49 <Eddi|zuHause> and the second track tries to make a dam up to that point, but fails because it would cover the river 15:39:11 <Eddi|zuHause> and if i try to build the other track first, the problem is symmetric on the other side 15:43:33 <Rubidium> just single track the bridge ;) 15:43:36 <peter1138> hmm, maybe depot windows should just use ZOOM_LVL_4X instead of ZOOM_LVL_GUI 15:45:07 <Eddi|zuHause> Rubidium: that mounds fun on a main track :p 15:45:38 <Rubidium> but... it's realistic ;) 15:45:47 *** shirish [~quassel@117.222.1.152] has joined #openttd 15:46:16 <Rubidium> we got a bit of 4 wide track, then a 2 track wide bridge and after that back to 4 wide... yay 15:46:22 <Wolf01> couldn't you divide the tracks near the river and build 2 bridges slightly more distant from each other? 15:46:34 <Eddi|zuHause> like a highway that stops, gets narrow, makes a detour around a field, and then comes back to being a highway :p 15:46:50 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r26864 /trunk (14 files in 4 dirs) (2014-09-20 15:46:44 UTC) 15:46:51 <DorpsGek> -Codechange: bring a bit more OO into the disaster vehicles 15:47:00 <peter1138> Oooo! 15:47:16 <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: yeah. i'm trying to do that, but it's tricky because it snaps to being double track easily 15:47:35 <Eddi|zuHause> and can't have narrow curve radius because of speed limit 15:47:46 <Pikka> Supercheese, no apples or rooted androids, unfortunately. 15:47:49 <Wolf01> and if you start from the bridges and then connect them to the tracks? 15:48:06 <Supercheese> Pikka: Well you could always, y'know... 15:49:04 <Pikka> hanging out for a high-quality soundtrack, the bits on soundcloud are good. :) 15:54:33 <Pikka> and could I? 15:54:54 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [Und weg...] 15:55:01 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:55:04 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 15:55:48 <Supercheese> ah yes, Soundcloud stuffs were quite excellent 15:59:47 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 16:00:04 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-108-52-130-213.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 16:05:03 <peter1138> how... do i get this separation lark to work? :S 16:05:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18C53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:07:22 *** Mata [~oftc-webi@yhikas5.ttu.ee] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:42:39 <peter1138> gfx_func.h:#define FONT_HEIGHT_NORMAL (GetCharacterHeight(FS_NORMAL)) 16:42:41 <peter1138> yikes :p 16:47:58 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest311 16:48:00 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 16:50:06 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:50:09 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:53:58 *** Guest311 [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:55:11 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:05:28 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:07:47 *** Djohaal [~Djohaal@177.16.70.42] has joined #openttd 17:21:45 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:21:49 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 17:27:13 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-40-59.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 17:36:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:36:08 <andythenorth> o/ 17:40:08 <peter1138> \ \o 17:40:19 <Pikka> yarr 17:41:02 <Pikka> andythenorth, 16 ships 17:41:18 <Pikka> I did a reappraisal based on the fact that I now have these hoverzellepins 17:45:10 <andythenorth> is 16 more or less? 17:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r26865 trunk/src/lang/welsh.txt (2014-09-20 17:45:14 UTC) 17:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:23 <DorpsGek> welsh - 11 changes by kazzie 17:45:45 <Pikka> more IDs, fewer boats. changing graphics is an etc etc. 17:46:04 <andythenorth> hoverzellepins are a bad feature 17:46:11 <andythenorth> but I think theyâre inevitable 17:46:13 <Pikka> small ones are alright 17:46:30 <Pikka> SRN4s are a bad feature, but I might just be saying that to get out of modelling it :D 17:46:33 <andythenorth> ha 17:53:54 <V453000> nice models Pikka :) 17:54:06 <Supercheese> It's funny, the most recent 'zeppelin'-style airship currently in flight testing uses hovercraft-pads as landing gear 17:54:14 <Supercheese> so it is a hoverzeppelin zeppelin 17:54:24 <andythenorth> horse drawn 17:55:47 <andythenorth> we should fix the game for horses 17:56:07 <Pikka> just make the horses go 80 mph 17:56:09 <Pikka> fixed 17:56:12 <andythenorth> jet powered 17:56:14 <andythenorth> considered it 17:56:44 *** Sylf [~sylf@c-71-199-78-95.hsd1.ks.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:57:19 <andythenorth> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yRofzlNEHhY/UWxqznhxkfI/AAAAAAAAAy4/6xSjMpkWXzo/s500/Photo%252520Apr%25252012%25252C%2525202013%25252C%2525208%25253A10%252520AM.jpg 17:57:35 <andythenorth> Pikka: will your horse-wagons be non-articulated? 17:57:39 <andythenorth> o_O 17:57:45 <Supercheese> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2clnsFvFOs (ignore the dumb music) 17:58:10 <Pikka> which horse-wagons, andythenorth? 17:58:21 <Pikka> the 80mph ones? 17:58:27 <andythenorth> yes 17:58:33 <Pikka> I don't see why not 17:58:55 <andythenorth> YOU MUST USE SEMIS 17:59:13 <Pikka> semi-tralier ships 17:59:42 <Pikka> so I look at these ferries 17:59:43 <Pikka> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/28/North_Stradbroke_Island_Vehicle_Barges.jpg 18:00:13 <Pikka> and I think... nah. 18:00:41 <Alberth> shouldn't the jet and the horse swap places? 18:02:14 <andythenorth> I like the ugly blue ship 18:02:24 <andythenorth> but yeah 18:02:30 <andythenorth> also youâd have to load them with cars 18:02:31 <andythenorth> boring 18:04:11 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 18:04:34 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@76.178.136.186] has joined #openttd 18:17:19 <andythenorth> such readme 18:18:40 <andythenorth> itâs kind of boring if the docs give too much info, right? 18:19:02 <Pikka> pertinent info, or random info? 18:19:43 <Pikka> it's better to have answer the question in the readme than be asked it 40 times, but then you have to ask whether the kind of person who can't figure these things out reads readmes anyway. :) 18:19:46 *** Japa [~Japa@123.63.216.13] has joined #openttd 18:19:52 <Pikka> *have answered 18:20:17 <Japa> Is there a way currently to import rivers and/or trees from an image? 18:20:34 <Pikka> I don't think so, sounds like a fun project though :D 18:20:54 <andythenorth> Pikka: stuff like stats of the vehicles 18:21:11 <andythenorth> intro date, yes. Speed, capacity, power, not so much 18:21:21 <Pikka> fairly pointless I'd have thought, since they're all displayed in the game 18:21:27 <Pikka> intro date perhaps 18:23:49 <b_jonas> argh, only two squares in this oil rig actually accept oil 18:23:54 <b_jonas> um 18:23:56 <b_jonas> oil refinery 18:24:00 <b_jonas> I meant oil refinery 18:33:16 *** Japa [~Japa@123.63.216.13] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:33:23 <peter1138> That's normal 18:33:56 <V453000> Pikka: even if you write things everywhere, put there images, explain to people personally over and over again, there is still going to be vast majority who will either 1. ask you about it because they do not understand/know it, or 2. ask you about it because they read it and have questions about it 18:34:00 <V453000> there is no escape :D 18:34:42 <Alberth> you forgot "ask because they think it's faster and simpler than reading" :) 18:42:38 <b_jonas> gtfo, I'm a big oil company, I don't have to respect your stupid local rules, town! 18:42:57 <peter1138> No, you just transport it. Not quite the same. 18:45:08 <b_jonas> I need a water tunnel here 18:46:26 <b_jonas> I transport their passengers, but their town is not growing. 18:52:23 <b_jonas> wait, does an unsuccessful bribe really set the town rating to -50, which is enough to build a station? then I'll bribe 18:54:09 <b_jonas> hmm no 18:54:17 <b_jonas> it doesn't increase the rating 18:54:28 <b_jonas> still, it doesn't decrease it either, so I don't have much to lose 18:58:35 <Alberth> o/ 19:05:13 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:07:32 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:12:50 <Pikka> frosch123, andythenorth; so the plan is to eventually use effects for ship wakes, etc? :) 19:12:59 <andythenorth> it is? o_O 19:13:06 <Pikka> isn't it? :D 19:13:11 <Pikka> custom effect vehicles, and all that? :) 19:14:20 <Pikka> in any case, I'm not having any animated wakes or water effects in my set - the extra sprite sets needed would blow out the newgrf size massively. so if the ships are going to have "nice" wakes instead of just floating over the water, that will be the only way it could happen. :) 19:15:53 <frosch123> Pikka: almost, the goal is to have coloured smoke and nyan rainbows in nuts 19:16:05 <frosch123> (maybe V does not know about it yet, though) 19:16:43 <b_jonas> but how would you ensure the wake is always on water, not on land? 19:17:07 <Pikka> the boat generates it where the boat is 19:17:14 <Pikka> so assuming the boat is on water... 19:17:17 <frosch123> the same way as it is ensured that the ship is always on water 19:17:31 <frosch123> have you ever seen a ship on land in ttd? :p 19:17:42 <Pikka> frosch123, feature request for hovercraft 19:17:48 <frosch123> already done 19:18:11 <b_jonas> frosch123: yes, I've seen large ships partly overlapping land 19:18:23 <frosch123> b_jonas: fix your irony detector 19:29:10 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:58:26 *** Smedles [~quassel@58.160.136.199] has joined #openttd 19:58:42 <andythenorth> Pikka: wondering if I can use that hoverzep for the 400pax version 19:58:53 <andythenorth> itâs hit max width for | views at current size 19:59:06 <Pikka> hoverzeps are wide, though... 19:59:14 <andythenorth> yup 19:59:29 <Pikka> I mean, you could use it for that if you wanted. Or I could do a bigger one and it can be "too wide" :) 19:59:36 <andythenorth> too wide clips the docks 19:59:40 <andythenorth> locks / docks / 19:59:44 <andythenorth> been there, done that :) 20:00:15 <andythenorth> does the render magic downscale more? 20:00:28 <Pikka> I thought one of your problems with the existing graphics was that it was too small? :) 20:00:43 * andythenorth looks 20:01:01 <andythenorth> so I have the ogfx sprite for the 400pax thing 20:01:04 <andythenorth> and that is too small 20:01:19 <andythenorth> itâs same width as the landing craft zep I drew 20:01:26 <Pikka> isn't it bigger than the new one? :D 20:01:33 <andythenorth> nah 20:01:56 <andythenorth> hang on 20:02:33 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 20:02:50 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/6584/ogfx_zep.png 20:03:10 <Pikka> hmm.. well, for the SRN4ish one, I was planning to make it pretty much a whole tile wide 20:03:16 <Pikka> so that's definitely going to clip stuff 20:03:24 <Pikka> might be worth it, though? :D 20:03:29 <andythenorth> yair, they stick out the side of locks 20:03:32 <andythenorth> up to you :) 20:03:34 <andythenorth> also depots 20:03:39 <Pikka> lol 20:03:51 <Pikka> well it's up to you, since I'd only be doing it for FISH 20:04:01 <Pikka> I'm sticking to small hovercraft only for mine :) 20:04:52 <andythenorth> he :) 20:04:58 <andythenorth> Iâll figure something out 20:05:07 <andythenorth> Iâm not too bothered about SRN 4 being an SRN 4 20:05:10 <andythenorth> also, biab 20:05:13 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:06:52 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:16:55 *** urdh [urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: boom] 20:21:08 *** Brumi [~quassel@78-131-41-191.pool.digikabel.hu] has quit [] 20:37:42 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.137.74.191] has quit [] 20:38:42 *** urdh [urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:43 <b_jonas> wait, so more squares provide goods than accept oil? 20:42:45 <b_jonas> ooh 20:43:28 *** Phoenix_the_II [~ralph@13-17-191-195.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined #openttd 20:44:57 <Supercheese> All industry tiles produce, while not all may accept 20:45:14 <Pikka> actually, no industry tiles produce 20:45:15 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3D07.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:45:18 <Pikka> the industry produces ;) 20:45:29 <Supercheese> "supply", then :P 20:51:53 <Supercheese> Uuuuugh, so many strings to translate 20:52:33 <Supercheese> although fewer than Wesnoth it seems... 20:54:49 <Rubidium> Supercheese: only 26 thousand 20:55:13 <Eddi|zuHause> over nine thousand? 20:56:35 <Supercheese> Wesnoth is crazy: http://www.wesnoth.org/gettext/index.lang.php?version=master&package=&lang=la 20:56:48 <Supercheese> 59023 strings or so it claims 20:57:22 <Rubidium> that's unfair 20:58:03 <Rubidium> it counts all equivalents of NewGRFs and (game) scripts as well 20:58:26 <Supercheese> yeah, no effort is being made to translate those it seems 20:59:05 <Rubidium> still about 11k for the first section 20:59:35 <Supercheese> Still, once I finish main OTTD I would like to tackle the stuff available on eints 20:59:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:52 <Rubidium> oh... official core packages is only 4535 21:00:05 <Supercheese> 10689 strings in that upper section by my reckoning 21:00:58 <Rubidium> and only 53 languages 21:00:59 <frosch123> Rubidium: the first section also contains the "official" scenarios or so 21:01:02 <Supercheese> vs. 4103 for OTTD 21:01:16 <Rubidium> @calc 53*4535 - 61*4103 21:01:16 <DorpsGek> Rubidium: -9928 21:01:29 <frosch123> scenarios in ottd do not have enough text :p 21:01:35 <Eddi|zuHause> (steam:5353): LIBDBUSMENU-GLIB-WARNING **: Trying to remove a child that doesn't believe we're it's parent. <-- that sounds creepy 21:01:37 <Rubidium> we got more strings in official packages! ;) 21:01:50 <Supercheese> also, its* 21:02:11 <Rubidium> yup.. definitely creepy that that kind of strings get through QA at steam 21:02:15 <Supercheese> not that that changes creepiness 21:03:23 * peter1138 grumbles at bunching up trains 21:03:54 <andythenorth> http://i.imgur.com/MMtWaIK.png 21:04:32 <Pikka> splendid 21:05:17 <Pikka> andythenorth, I've got a car ferry srn4esque hoverzeppelin going here that's not much bigger, footprintwise, than the little one 21:05:24 <Pikka> just taller and bulkier 21:05:31 <andythenorth> is it sprites to see yet? 21:05:35 <Pikka> not yet 21:05:53 <andythenorth> sounds awesome 21:06:41 <Pikka> http://i.imgur.com/4H8O4QR.png 21:07:24 <andythenorth> nice 21:09:13 <andythenorth> moar distorted proportions 21:09:26 <andythenorth> squid is still too realisms 21:11:19 *** Mucht [~Martin@000128e2.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11:50 <andythenorth> also the \ views are as long as - views 21:11:54 <andythenorth> canât be right 21:12:19 <Supercheese> must be left 21:12:31 <peter1138> shocking behaviour 21:13:27 <andythenorth> I am shocked 21:14:59 <Eddi|zuHause> SHOCKED! 21:15:11 * peter1138 removes 240v from andythenorth 21:15:42 <FLHerne> andythenorth: How about LARC-Vs, as used by Searles? 21:16:05 <FLHerne> They want to run a regular ferry service across the Wash with them from next year, apparently 21:16:06 <andythenorth> what does it do? 21:16:47 <FLHerne> Looks like a small ship/mid-sized boat with 4 wheels on. Can carry 3 cars or 30-odd pax 21:16:54 <FLHerne> Has a ramp on one end 21:17:39 <Pikka> 3 cars? 21:17:39 <FLHerne> Loads up at the promenade, trundles off down the beach, across and up the other side. Functionally equivalent to a really slow hovercraft 21:17:49 <Pikka> have to be pretty small cars... 21:18:35 <andythenorth> RC cars 21:19:06 <FLHerne> Pikka: I'm sure that was what I read in an article about the Skeggie trip 21:19:12 * FLHerne looks for it 21:19:26 <andythenorth> amphibious boat 21:19:29 <andythenorth> also avoid Skeg 21:19:43 <Pikka> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/LARC_V_vehicle.JPEG 21:20:17 <Supercheese> It's rather small 21:20:30 <Pikka> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/LARC-V_%28Iceland_-_Jokulsarlon_5%29.jpg 21:20:40 <Pikka> too small for TTD 21:20:54 <Pikka> too amphibious, too 21:20:58 <Supercheese> also impossible, yes that 21:21:21 <Supercheese> barring some extreme wizardry 21:24:09 <FLHerne> Hmm, do I have my models right? Those ones are smaller than the one I'm thinking of 21:24:18 <FLHerne> Which is a 60-seater, per their site 21:25:23 <FLHerne> Oh, apparently they only took one car, but think they could do 2 at a time for scheduled services 21:32:48 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.90.1 [SeaMonkey 2.29/20140909085502]] 21:34:45 <andythenorth> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LARC-LX 21:35:23 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 21:39:04 <FLHerne> Looking at LARC types, I think it's a pair of LARC-XVs that Searles has right now 21:39:20 <FLHerne> LX might be more use as a TTD type, though- 21:40:02 <FLHerne> And I assume they must be looking at one for the Skeggie run, because a LARC-XV just isn't big enough for their claimed plans 21:40:08 <Supercheese> But it'd be just another boat 21:40:22 <Supercheese> can't make it go on land 21:42:54 <FLHerne> That also goes for the hovercraft 21:45:40 <Supercheese> The hoverzeppelins have the advantage of being rather fast over water 21:45:47 <Supercheese> this LARC thingy, not so 21:48:16 <andythenorth> larcapin 21:48:38 <andythenorth> also bye 21:48:42 <andythenorth> tomorrow, Swindon 21:48:45 <andythenorth> what larks etc 21:48:51 <Pikka> bye also 21:48:55 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 21:50:32 <FLHerne> Supercheese: LARCs have the advantage of being painfully slow on water, does that count? 21:54:33 <Supercheese> Does it have the LCARS user interface? :P 21:55:00 *** Pikka [~Octomom@d58-106-46-133.rdl801.qld.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:04:26 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 22:16:27 <frosch123> night 22:16:31 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f745782.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:20:45 <Wolf01> 'night 22:20:48 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:21:57 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 22:27:27 *** FreeZeee [~FreeZeee@88.146.217.35] has joined #openttd 22:27:59 *** FreeZeee [~FreeZeee@88.146.217.35] has quit [] 22:47:15 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:ad9d:e0d9:5695:4aa2] has quit [Quit: .] 23:18:01 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18C53.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:38:52 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd