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00:01:16 *** SHOTbyGUN [shotbygun@213-186-253-83.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 00:04:38 *** coeRC_7Yo- [~ginko@port-92-194-111-7.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 00:06:50 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 00:10:33 *** APTX_ [~APTX@aptx.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:11:37 *** ginko_ [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:13:25 *** APTX [~APTX@aptx.org] has joined #openttd 00:19:52 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:26:25 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:28:36 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:33:04 *** coeRC_7Yo- [~ginko@port-92-194-111-7.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:47:58 <glx> and it's not OpenTTD but SDL 00:59:55 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has joined #openttd 01:00:07 <Supercheese> What on Earth is up with this window: https://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=182147 01:00:16 <Supercheese> some patch, I presume? 01:00:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i asked myself that same question 01:02:23 <Eddi|zuHause> like a missing panel after GUI rearrangement 01:03:06 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:03:14 <Eddi|zuHause> today's earworm presented by Star Trek VIII: The First Contact 01:03:31 <Supercheese> There aren't even dividers between the vehicles 01:03:58 <Supercheese> bah, the whole thing is full of weird 01:04:36 <Eddi|zuHause> there is also no raising edge at the left, but there is one on the top 01:06:57 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07:39 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 01:10:03 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 01:14:57 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@cpe-142-136-204-41.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Quit] 01:17:48 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:26:34 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 01:37:44 *** Hazzard_ [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 01:39:14 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 01:40:17 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 01:44:33 *** Hazzard [~quassel@c-67-174-253-44.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:47:17 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:13:59 *** Wing_ [~Wing@c-68-33-226-154.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:14:14 *** EyeMWing [~Wing@c-73-201-30-64.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 02:52:06 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:54:08 <ginko> Anyone on here?! :D 02:55:27 <ginko> Discovered a game called Prison Architect, it seems to be a complex simulation with an active modding community and it's on sale on Steam and costs 9,51⬠instead of 27,99⬠- it's still in Alpha but looks promising 02:55:54 <ginko> Personally: I have not bought it, but will monitor it's development. Some other people in here might be interested (and it's available for Win / Mac / Linux) 02:56:24 <ginko> Sale ends 2nd December (Autumn Sale) 02:57:16 <ginko> I will repost this (if I don't forget) later during the day when more people will be online 03:15:14 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:18:35 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 03:44:59 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:45:44 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:47:06 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has joined #openttd 03:50:48 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:05:47 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has joined #openttd 04:06:37 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@2a00:6960:1:1:0:24:107:1] has joined #openttd 04:09:14 *** Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> testlink-beta.oftc.net quits: Klanticus, Fuco, 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#openttd 08:32:56 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:09:04 <argoneus> ayy 09:09:33 <planetmaker> moin 09:28:54 <argoneus> moan 09:30:17 <planetmaker> not yet 09:31:32 <argoneus> >:( 09:35:00 <V453000> no moin 09:35:04 <V453000> or moanin 09:35:25 <V453000> moar nutez 09:36:23 <planetmaker> paranuts. If you shake 'em enough, they'll naturally surface 09:39:56 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:41:02 <argoneus> V453000: do you have a car? 09:41:17 <V453000> how the hell does that matter 09:41:37 * argoneus wants to get a car eventually but has no idea what is cheap to buy and maintain 09:41:47 <V453000> jesus fuck 09:41:54 <V453000> depends. :) 09:41:58 <argoneus> :< 09:42:05 <argoneus> I figured that VW/skoda would fall into that category? 09:42:08 <argoneus> since both are produced here? 09:42:18 <argoneus> I mean, I'd imagine it's expensive to repair fords and renaults, no? 09:42:21 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 09:43:21 <planetmaker> :D 09:43:33 <planetmaker> Those are expensive to repair which often break down 09:43:48 <argoneus> planetmaker: you talking about fords etc? 09:44:52 <planetmaker> I didn't compile any statistics. 09:45:29 <peter1138> It all depends on the car, not really the brand. 09:45:58 <planetmaker> well, the same screw for a Porsche probably costs 5x as much as for a Fiat ;) 09:46:02 <argoneus> peter1138: car piece by piece, or car model by model? 09:46:08 <argoneus> as in 09:46:12 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:46:12 <peter1138> Model. 09:46:14 <argoneus> are all ford focuses similar in duraiblity? 09:46:32 <argoneus> but it also depends on year, no? 09:47:22 <peter1138> It all depends, as V453000 said. 09:47:52 <V453000> what I mainly meant is that you should stop "do you have job A, did you do B to get it, and do you live like C now?" 09:47:53 <argoneus> so basically I need to pray to god and buy something and hope it werks? 09:47:53 <argoneus> :< 09:48:03 <peter1138> V453000, exactly. 09:48:19 <argoneus> V453000: I don't understand 09:48:54 <Jinassi> morning, argoneus, you wanna buy a reliable car? 09:48:59 <V453000> that you should get back to working/studying and not care so much about what other people do or how did they get to it :) 09:49:15 <argoneus> V453000: well, I could really use a car 09:49:32 <argoneus> since we have none in my family, and members of my family who can't really walk that great would like to go to places too :< 09:49:44 <V453000> well then you will probably want to buy an older one anyway, and there it ultra differs 09:49:48 <argoneus> I don't care if it looks like from the 19th century and drives 50 only 09:49:55 <V453000> not just brands / models but also its state etc 09:50:00 <argoneus> I just want something, but I don't even know what that something is that I'm looking for 09:50:14 <V453000> kind of hard to answer then 09:50:16 <argoneus> and from my understanding those salesmen will do anything to sell shitty cars that have been in accidents before 09:50:25 <argoneus> so I was wondering if you had any suggestions :< 09:50:38 <argoneus> from experience or such 09:50:46 <V453000> not really 09:51:02 <Jinassi> I do, get a mechanic, pay him a beer or a kegel and take him with you to find a good,reliable car 09:51:37 <planetmaker> that is sound advice indeed, Jinassi :) 09:51:39 <argoneus> oh, right 09:51:45 <V453000> . 09:51:48 <argoneus> having a friend mechanic is a good idea, I guess 09:51:56 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@cpe-142-136-204-41.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Quit] 09:52:01 <argoneus> wait 09:52:12 <argoneus> do people in the shops let you drive the car to a mechanic to check it out? 09:52:44 <peter1138> lolno 09:52:48 <planetmaker> if they're proper business men, yes 09:52:59 <planetmaker> if they're cut-throats, then no 09:53:03 <peter1138> you might get a test drive with them 09:53:22 <peter1138> so no cars in your family 09:53:32 <peter1138> does anyone have a driving license? heh 09:53:34 <V453000> what is the bad thing on taking them with you? :D 09:54:26 <peter1138> indeed, you want them to give a glance before you set foot in it, let alone move it 09:54:53 <argoneus> peter1138: nope 09:55:12 <argoneus> my family is me, my mom, and my 80 year old grandparents 09:55:19 <argoneus> if I don't drive, no one will :< 09:56:13 <Jinassi> argoneus, what car do you like so far? 09:56:27 <argoneus> some older fabia or a vw golf 09:56:29 <argoneus> probably 09:56:41 <argoneus> they aren't that expensive I think? 09:56:44 <Jinassi> no 09:56:55 <Jinassi> will you be taking long or short routes? 09:57:13 <argoneus> 40 km there and back once/twice per month I'd guess 09:57:24 <argoneus> so like 2500km/year? 09:57:30 <argoneus> er 09:57:35 <planetmaker> argoneus, depends also on what you call "not so expensive". You can get a brand new Fabia for 10k⬠09:57:44 <argoneus> of course not brand new 09:57:50 <argoneus> used is what I'm talking about 09:57:54 <argoneus> brand new is way out of my league 09:58:02 <argoneus> that's why I think it's tricky 09:58:13 <planetmaker> A Golf starts at not quite twice that price 09:58:25 <planetmaker> but used prices then scale somewhat :) 09:58:34 <argoneus> aren't the cheapest on the market basically 09:58:42 <argoneus> "I don't have an engine or I was in a major accident" 10:00:02 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:05 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 10:01:43 <Jinassi> we can write a thesis about buying used cars, i bought like 6 for myself and my better part, got any voice comms to talk? i cba to write it all, since i'd like to help you out not buying a repainted shit that will start to break and rust in 2 months 10:02:18 <argoneus> I'm at work right now :< 10:02:24 <argoneus> Jinassi: where are you from by the way? 10:02:36 <Jinassi> slovenija :) 10:03:14 <argoneus> er 10:03:19 <argoneus> slovenia? 10:03:23 <Jinassi> yeh, not many knows where that is, it's like we're the black sheep of Europe 10:03:28 <argoneus> I know where it is 10:03:29 <Jinassi> :( 10:03:31 <Jinassi> yay 10:03:32 <argoneus> just making sure it's not slovakia 10:03:37 <Jinassi> nope lol 10:03:39 <argoneus> ok 10:03:45 <argoneus> well 10:03:50 <argoneus> I'm not exactly sure where it is tbh 10:03:52 <argoneus> south of austria Ithink 10:03:54 <argoneus> :< 10:04:06 <argoneus> south or southeast 10:05:12 <argoneus> Jinassi: but basically 10:05:18 <argoneus> does it apply that if a car looks too cheap to be true 10:05:20 <argoneus> then it probably is? 10:06:18 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-63-81.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:17:23 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 10:21:58 *** LadyHawk- [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has joined #openttd 10:25:28 *** LadyHawk [~LadyHawk@5751e87a.skybroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:25:30 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 10:42:58 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has joined #openttd 10:46:08 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:17:18 *** itsatacoshop247_ [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:39:27 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 11:45:11 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3F80.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 11:47:08 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:05 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:59:12 <Sacro> @seen Bjarni 11:59:12 <DorpsGek> Sacro: Bjarni was last seen in #openttd 3 years, 7 weeks, 3 days, 11 hours, 40 minutes, and 5 seconds ago: <Bjarni> heh 11:59:15 <Sacro> :( 11:59:46 <Sacro> @seen KUDr 11:59:46 <DorpsGek> Sacro: I have not seen KUDr. 11:59:48 <Sacro> hm 12:00:48 <peter1138> The shame of C++ 12:01:49 <V453000> nuts grew to 50mb already XD 12:02:06 <V453000> 65mb unpacked :d 12:14:50 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:29:47 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 12:37:14 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:41:15 *** MJP [~mjp@hq.z77.fr] has joined #openttd 12:50:19 <argoneus> I bet you guys haven't even played call of duty modern warfare 3 12:59:07 <V453000> NO. 12:59:10 <V453000> but we have played openttd 12:59:15 <V453000> which is quite a lot more intelligent :) 12:59:31 <V453000> you cant get a car for it yeah 12:59:33 <V453000> :P 13:00:27 <argoneus> lol 13:00:33 <planetmaker> fully ack, V453000 13:02:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i'd probably play on this level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F457iJ2C8JY 13:04:07 <V453000> I dont even remotely understand how can anybody buy the same exact game every year 13:04:15 <V453000> call of duty 12038911 13:04:23 <V453000> that just sounds purely idiotic to me 13:04:52 <V453000> you run and shoot shit, probably the same mechanics, perhaps with TINY differences and graphics to sell it 13:07:40 <Eddi|zuHause> but! there's a campaign with about half an hour of storyline! 13:07:45 <planetmaker> it's called 'call of duty' as they consider it your duty to shell out the money. anually. ever more 13:08:01 <V453000> XD 13:08:09 <V453000> big points 13:08:10 <V453000> both of you 13:08:21 <V453000> unfortunately both are very valid I guess 13:09:37 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-190-48.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:13:56 <peter1138> FPS should be played with mouse, anyway... 13:15:03 <V453000> ^ 13:15:17 <V453000> toilet paper is great in case of first person shitter 13:15:50 <peter1138> Although I played Doom with keyboard, back in the day. 13:16:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i played sokoban. 13:16:53 <Eddi|zuHause> (actually, i did play a bit of doom) 13:16:54 <V453000> XD 13:21:38 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:27:39 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.234.179.58] has joined #openttd 13:30:49 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.185.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:55:05 *** maxrules [~maxrules3@p57AA90C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 14:22:53 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 15:33:14 <argoneus> the cod's aren't THAT bad 15:33:58 <argoneus> 1 was great, 2 was awesome, 3 doesn't exist, MW1 awesome, 5 good, MW2 fine, black ops good, MW3 ehh, blops2 ehh, advanced warfare 2 fine\ 15:34:29 <V453000> which doesnt change anything on the thing that they are all the same? :D 15:34:33 <argoneus> well 15:34:35 <argoneus> they aren't really 15:34:41 <argoneus> at least 1 2 4 and 5 are very different 15:34:49 <argoneus> 4 and MW2 and MW3 are kinda similar 15:34:52 <argoneus> blops 1/2 are similar 15:34:56 <argoneus> adv warfare is differentish 15:35:06 <argoneus> I forgot ghosts 15:35:07 <argoneus> never played ghosts 15:35:30 <V453000> ok 15:35:31 <V453000> so 15:35:34 <V453000> how does it differ? 15:35:48 <argoneus> do I need to cover 1 2 4 and 5 or are those obvious? 15:36:05 <V453000> I go and shoot shit with similar mechanics 15:36:07 <argoneus> those are very different 15:36:19 <V453000> +different grafix! (OMG) 15:37:01 <argoneus> 1 was slow paced, had a health system, no hit indicators, WW2 setting 15:37:20 <argoneus> cod2 has better graphics, is slow and tactical, has regenerating health, has a different weapon system, has hit indicators, maps are different, new game modes 15:37:43 <argoneus> cod4 is modern setting, very fast paced, very quick maps, fast shooting and reloading weapons, lots of movement, has sprinting 15:38:19 <argoneus> cod5 is like a mix between 4 and 2 15:38:43 <argoneus> these four feel very different 15:38:51 <argoneus> and are played differently 15:39:01 <argoneus> after that they are kinda similar I guess 15:39:11 <argoneus> but black ops has a great campaign 15:39:16 <argoneus> and advanced warfare has new movement mechanics 15:45:18 <peter1138> Is it like Minecraft? 15:49:55 <Eddi|zuHause> minecraft is so cruel... 15:50:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i fished an almost perfect bow out of the ocean 15:50:15 <Eddi|zuHause> and it can't be repaired 15:50:29 <peter1138> Why not? 15:50:44 <Eddi|zuHause> anvil says it's too expensive 15:50:49 <peter1138> Ah 16:03:44 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 16:07:54 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:09:47 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 16:15:31 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:15:34 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:22:31 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:37:37 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 16:54:44 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:04 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d086b60.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #openttd 16:58:51 *** ntx [~ntx@a88-115-29-236.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #openttd 17:03:09 *** engineerwolf [~engineerw@0001f8e6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:05:39 *** maxrules [~maxrules3@p57AA90C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 17:08:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:09:04 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 17:14:59 *** TheMask96 [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:41 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 17:21:26 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@pool-74-101-166-188.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 17:22:30 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@pool-74-101-166-188.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [] 17:26:07 *** ginko [~ginko@0001b68f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:37 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:37:59 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 18:00:35 <ginko> Interesting game on sale on steam (autumn sale) - available for Linux / Mac / Windows, in Alpha, active modding community, Prison Architect 18:00:56 <ginko> Personally have not bought it, but some of you might be interested maybe 18:01:11 <Jinassi> tell me, have you tried KSP yet? 18:01:25 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:01:37 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 18:01:56 <ginko> http://store.steampowered.com/app/233450/ 18:02:31 <glx> stop spamming 18:02:52 <ginko> Jinassi which is what? 18:03:16 <ginko> glx sorry, thought it would not bother anyone 18:03:56 <Jinassi> Kerbals in space :p so easy on 1st looks, but so hard once you dig in 18:04:34 <Eddi|zuHause> it's only rocket science, how hard can it be... 18:06:41 <ginko> So a Be Elon Musk simulator? ;) 18:06:57 <planetmaker> ginko, this is not a general game advertizement channel. 18:07:10 <planetmaker> you now advertized it twice. And keep it at that. 18:07:32 <ginko> k 18:07:36 <planetmaker> we don't exactly need off-topic spam 18:08:06 <ginko> Off-topic discussions are plenty 18:08:30 <planetmaker> yes. But people who join the channel just to advertize their current favourite game are rare 18:08:32 <planetmaker> very rare 18:08:35 <ginko> I don't want to have this discussion really. This content is not wanted here, I got notice, I understand, sorry, won't happen again 18:09:34 <ginko> I am not playing it btw, don't think I'd like it 18:09:45 <ginko> Jinassi Kerbal Space Program? Looks interesting 18:09:49 <planetmaker> kinda makes it worse, doesn't it? 18:10:36 <ginko> planetmaker I thought many in here could be interested even though it's not to my taste 18:10:39 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:22:24 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009677.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:48 <Alberth> hi 18:28:32 <planetmaker> o/ 18:30:01 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:39:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:40:07 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:51:37 <frosch123> hola 19:01:23 *** Alberth [~hat@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 19:04:11 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@179.234.179.58] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:07:27 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:10:15 <Jinassi> would anyone be so kind and enlighten me, if pulling logs with rcon would cripple a running game? 19:10:34 <Jinassi> performance-wise 19:11:01 <frosch123> no idea what logs you mean, but likely it has no effect 19:11:43 <Jinassi> hoping that using rcon gamelo would give me actions players did 19:11:51 <Jinassi> *rcon gamelog 19:11:56 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 19:12:07 <Jinassi> as i am not able to wake up host lol 19:12:09 <frosch123> no, it doesn't log players 19:12:18 <frosch123> it only logs server admins breaking the savegame 19:12:20 <Jinassi> ah, thank you frosch123 19:12:29 * Jinassi giggles 19:13:25 <frosch123> Jinassi: http://blog.openttdcoop.org/2010/04/11/logging-and-statistics/ 19:13:30 <Jinassi> i ain't touching that then, since it will have no effect, maybe if i do break it, some alarms would sound... 19:14:07 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host156-13-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:14:31 <Wolf01> hi hi 19:14:47 <Jinassi> I presume there is something similar running, altough I'd have to ssh in to pull it 19:24:03 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:31:38 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 19:31:46 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 19:32:19 *** MTs-iPad [~MTs-iPad@008-086-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl] has joined #openttd 19:58:21 *** Xrufuian [~Xrufuian@cpe-142-136-204-41.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 20:04:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:10:58 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:17:09 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:31:33 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:8cea:ab39:3a3d:1d60] has quit [Quit: .] 20:33:23 <George> Hi 20:34:05 <George> how does the cost of rail types converttation is calculated? 20:36:45 <Wolf01> "cost of the new type - removal income of the old type" I suppose 20:37:44 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@c-76-102-167-252.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:39:31 <frosch123> http://hg.openttd.org/openttd/trunk.hg/file/b179c9cf7106/src/rail.h#l357 <- nah, in ottd the least important thing needs to have a hyper-complex mechanic 20:39:39 <frosch123> which someone believed to me realistic 20:40:50 <Wolf01> Ok, at least I got the first instruction right :P 20:43:39 <planetmaker> omg... really... 20:44:54 <frosch123> i am sure there were multiple bug reports when it was just like wolf said :p 20:45:12 <frosch123> i also recall a forum topic, but likely it was not helpful 20:47:37 <George> frosch123: could you have a look at FS#6177? 20:47:54 <George> What do you think about it? 20:50:29 <frosch123> apparently your prices are flawed 20:50:43 <frosch123> as you can see in above code, compatible railtypes are cheaper to convert 20:51:25 <frosch123> they are only as expensive as rebuiling, if removal of rail is really cheap 20:51:59 <frosch123> also, about anything involving costs my answer will always be: i don't care 20:53:12 <frosch123> also i always hoped for modular newgrfs which work with others, anything that relies on fixed stuff i consider bad thus 21:00:58 *** Biolunar [mahdi@blfd-4d086b60.pool.mediaways.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 21:11:27 <peter1138> I think that was probably Celestar :) 21:19:42 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:24:14 *** TomyLobo [~foo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Standby mode...] 21:30:13 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:30:53 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@176.76.8.8] has joined #openttd 21:33:33 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 21:35:18 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:40:30 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 21:41:28 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [] 21:55:59 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, there's a big discount of heroes 6, and i thought to myself: "well, i liked heroes 3, maybe they didn't screw it up enough for me to hate it", but all the reviews are like "fucking uplay is horrible and game can't be played at all" 22:03:26 <Eddi|zuHause> how did it get to this place where even potentially nice games are completely screwed over by DRM crap? 22:03:28 <peter1138> heh 22:06:12 <Sheogorath> why in multiplayer it isn't allowed to take over a company 22:06:14 <Sheogorath> ? 22:06:33 <Eddi|zuHause> only if they go bankrupt 22:07:02 <Eddi|zuHause> not by buying 100% shares 22:07:17 <Eddi|zuHause> since the game is not balanced at all, it would be a terrible mechanic 22:18:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@88.130.183.59] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:19:46 <Jinassi> Eddi|zuHause: I was in the same place as you are when Settlers 7 came out, loved the entire series. Then they started with Uplay and "online bonus" content. Thank you and goodbye 22:20:38 <Jinassi> that was quite a few years ago though, must be really tight by now. Haven't bought anything from Ubi since then 22:22:32 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1BB6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:46 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:30:40 *** Jinassi [~Jinassi@0001ec72.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [] 22:33:45 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, "mini metro"... sounds like something andythenorth would get addicted to. 22:35:21 <Wolf01> 'night 22:35:26 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:36:17 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:36:54 *** DabuYu [DabuYu@128.250.79.238] has joined #openttd 22:44:21 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d009677.pool.mediaways.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:49:03 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C3F80.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/nkczDT] 23:03:26 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@2a00:6960:1:1:0:24:107:1] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:04:22 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@2a00:6960:1:1:0:24:107:1] has joined #openttd 23:13:29 *** Hazzard [~Hazzard@pool-74-101-166-188.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:14:34 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 23:16:10 *** pxr [~Mychomize@46-236-110-230.customer.t3.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:16:32 *** pxr [~Mychomize@46-236-110-230.customer.t3.se] has joined #openttd 23:16:34 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:28:57 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd