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00:04:05 *** jjavaholic [~jjavaholi@grahamg63.plus.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:26:50 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 00:27:39 <Wolf01> 'night 00:27:45 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:28:38 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 00:30:04 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has joined #openttd 01:35:09 *** dreck [~oftc-webi@166.62.182.125] has quit [] 01:46:12 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po1-84-90-249-192.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:49:08 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 01:52:04 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:237:6031:2b93:195e:82ff] has joined #openttd 02:25:11 *** quorzom [~quorzom@cable-78-35-98-177.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:26:36 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 02:29:48 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:15:18 *** montalvo [~montalvo@c-76-103-107-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 03:15:57 *** montalvo [~montalvo@c-76-103-107-219.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:31:39 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@blfd-4d08ea86.pool.mediaWays.net] has joined #openttd 03:38:38 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@blfd-4d025f0d.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:40:19 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:47:39 *** naliao [~Naliao@107-133-209-15.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:21:33 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 04:25:34 *** ProfFrink [~proffrink@37.152.253.255] has joined #openttd 04:27:23 *** Prof_Frink [~proffrink@37.152.253.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:27:23 *** ProfFrink is now known as Prof_Frink 05:10:37 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:11:05 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:23:08 *** shirish_ [~quassel@117.202.205.120] has joined #openttd 05:29:58 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:40:44 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66D83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:18 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC67578.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:57:21 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 06:08:48 *** DDR [~kvirc@S010600254bbe4e1c.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:50:42 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:57:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 07:00:08 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:03:03 *** funnel [~funnel@0001c7d4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:26:29 <andythenorth> o/ 07:28:30 <V453000> heyooooo 07:28:36 <V453000> RAWR approaches 07:28:56 <V453000> nice industry you got there andy 07:29:04 <V453000> insufficient pixel count but they are lickey enough 07:30:29 <andythenorth> bit more tweaking 07:36:11 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.85.250] has joined #openttd 07:42:20 <Supercheese> a wild RAWR appears? 07:42:32 <V453000> yayyyy 07:42:35 <Supercheese> >Fight >Items >Run 07:47:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6ACE1.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 08:03:48 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:a5ab:6c28:b2d0:2316] has joined #openttd 08:22:14 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40:39 <peter1138> Hmm, is QC loading for anyone? 08:44:17 <Taco_> Whats a qc? 08:44:27 <Taco_> aside from a really good barrister? 08:45:19 <Supercheese> Questionable Content perhaps 08:45:23 <Supercheese> popular webcomic 08:46:46 <peter1138> ^ that 08:48:29 <V453000> loads fer me 08:56:06 <andythenorth> cba to code this mine 08:56:11 <andythenorth> maybe thatâs enough newgrf for a bit 08:56:44 <V453000> XD 08:58:21 <planetmaker> loads just fine, peter1138 08:59:21 *** Cybertinus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has joined #openttd 09:20:55 <V453000> http://i.giftrunk.com/rztg3z.gif 09:21:28 <andythenorth> ha 09:23:00 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.133.235.42] has joined #openttd 09:26:17 <V453000> road crossing models done :> postproduction magix and lets get on with coding =D 09:26:41 <V453000> got no crossing signals yet though :> 09:27:26 <andythenorth> over-rated 09:27:30 <andythenorth> go minimalist 09:27:54 <V453000> I will add them eventually, even got the stuff prepared to do that 09:28:23 <V453000> definitely later though :) 09:29:21 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.17.85.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:29:21 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 09:29:22 <V453000> I have needs to bananize nao 09:36:08 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@177.205.148.225.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #openttd 09:39:11 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71-8-126-76.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:40:17 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71-8-126-76.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #openttd 09:41:13 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.133.235.42] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:41:18 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 09:43:58 *** shirish_ [~quassel@117.202.205.120] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 09:48:27 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 10:07:01 <planetmaker> <V453000> http://i.giftrunk.com/rztg3z.gif <-- you're crazy ;) But then, we knew that :P 10:07:38 <andythenorth> or heâs the only sane one 10:10:25 <V453000> that thing is not my creation pm so there has to be at least one more person :P 10:15:55 <planetmaker> your girl friend, V453000? ;) 10:17:05 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 10:20:46 <V453000> no some unknown internet person :D 10:21:00 <V453000> my girlfriend is supportive but not quite obsessed :D 10:21:06 <planetmaker> :D 10:21:28 <peter1138> natvWhat's crazy about that? 10:21:31 <peter1138> er 10:21:32 <peter1138> What's crazy about that? 10:22:55 <peter1138> Bubble Dragons 10:23:44 <V453000> point. 10:43:11 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 10:50:52 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 11:28:33 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:237:6031:2b93:195e:82ff] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:28:42 *** shirish [~quassel@117.202.205.120] has joined #openttd 11:31:34 *** krinn [~krinn@204.227.101.84.rev.sfr.net] has joined #openttd 11:32:56 <krinn> 2015: from start of year, internet, my m/b server and my car battery died... now the tv died 11:33:02 <krinn> gonna be a real good year for me 11:37:34 <peter1138> TV's unnecessary anyway. 11:37:38 <peter1138> Unless it's your monitor. 11:40:27 <krinn> yeah not as vital, but boring 11:56:22 <planetmaker> TV... don't have one for about 8 years now or so 12:10:50 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 12:27:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 12:32:32 *** Supercheese is now known as Guest3403 12:32:37 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:38:33 *** Guest3403 [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:10:03 <V453000> ok so I got all of my sprites for one climate coded. How should I make the logic around identifying climate AND let the player choose which climate he wants to force visually? 13:10:17 <V453000> aka I want one parameter Auto/Temperate/Arctic/Tropic/Toyland 13:10:27 <V453000> with Auto automatically detecting current climate 13:10:34 <V453000> how should I do that? 13:10:37 <andythenorth> nested if? 13:10:47 <andythenorth> if auto param == true 13:10:54 <andythenorth> check climate 13:10:59 <andythenorth> if auto param = false 13:11:05 <andythenorth> if climate = player choice 13:11:07 <andythenorth> is one wya 13:11:09 <andythenorth> way * 13:11:17 <andythenorth> probably others 13:12:08 <V453000> hm 13:14:26 <V453000> asdf cant access ttwiki 13:14:35 <V453000> "games not allowed" 13:14:37 <V453000> stupid office :D 13:16:43 <V453000> right so climate == TEMPERATE 13:20:32 <V453000> how can I write this? if (param_climate == 0) AND (climate == TEMPERATE) OR (param_climate == 1) { 13:21:05 <V453000> temperate is if parameter is 0 and climate is temperate, or if parameter is 1 13:22:05 <V453000> what is || or !| or idk how is it written, can I do something like that even? 13:22:08 <andythenorth> probably nest the brackets 13:22:10 <andythenorth> yes 13:22:12 <andythenorth> you can do it 13:22:19 <andythenorth> I canât write code in my head, only with my fingers 13:22:25 <andythenorth> Iâd actually have to write it for you :P 13:22:33 <andythenorth> but busy 13:22:34 <andythenorth> :) 13:22:35 <V453000> just one line please? :P 13:27:30 <krinn> if (param_client == 1 || (param_climate ==0 && climate == TEMPERATE)) { 13:28:04 <krinn> /sclient/climate :) 13:28:47 <V453000> =D thanks so much <3 13:28:55 <V453000> was already reading up on those || && things :D 13:30:25 <andythenorth> could have been âorâ and âandâ symbols :P 13:30:26 <andythenorth> nvm 13:30:31 <andythenorth> ship sailed 13:31:09 <planetmaker> V453000, you can steal the code for climate selection from ogfx+landscape basically 13:31:30 <V453000> if this works what krinn wrote then I will use that, looks simple enough :P 13:32:29 <krinn> if || is logical or and && logical and it should 13:32:44 <planetmaker> yeah... it's basically what ogfx+landscape uses 13:33:00 <planetmaker> similar, though not identical. Depends on param definition 13:35:16 <planetmaker> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/ogfx-landscape/repository/entry/src/header.pnml#L148 13:35:35 <planetmaker> basically I define a custom variable to be used in the NewGRF further down in order to avoid doing the same calculation over and over 13:36:51 <planetmaker> to_use_climate = param_landscape - 1; 13:37:06 <krinn> funny never look at grf coding, what ttd_platofmr could be? 13:37:12 <planetmaker> if (param_landscape == 0) { to_use_climate = climate; } 13:37:21 <planetmaker> krinn, OpenTTD / TTDPatch 13:37:42 <planetmaker> basically: ignore, when using NML. It produces NewGRFs only usable by OpenTTD 13:37:49 <krinn> oh, more a grf_plaform than ttd_plaform naming so :) 13:38:42 <krinn> that grf code looks like c 13:38:52 <planetmaker> but actually... we can safely remove that variable... TTDP will fail to come to a point to actually check it due to grfv8 ;) 13:39:22 <planetmaker> it was sensible for nml 0.2.x and earlier in times of grf v7 13:39:50 <krinn> ttdpatch doesn't handle v8? 13:40:34 <planetmaker> no. It was invented post mortem ttdp 13:56:18 <V453000> ok I think I got it :D finish render, make sprites, try compile :D 14:05:47 * andythenorth contemplates giving V a compile-time flag to only use low res placeholder graphics 14:05:51 <andythenorth> for faster 14:06:03 <V453000> wat 14:07:16 <andythenorth> how long is your compile? 14:07:44 <V453000> no idea yet 14:07:56 <V453000> but the 1/4th one was about 10-15min I think 14:08:13 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 14:09:01 <andythenorth> I donât know how 32bpp compiles work 14:09:05 <andythenorth> but eh, thatâs a long time 14:09:21 <V453000> 32bpp = turtle fast 14:09:24 <andythenorth> nothing in your rawr repo? 14:09:46 <V453000> nay not yet 14:10:21 <andythenorth> dunno if itâs a valid improvement, but if I was doing 32bpp, I would do something like: 14:10:27 <andythenorth> for a realsprite 14:10:51 <andythenorth> âsrc/graphics/${graphics_dir}/lovely_horse.png" 14:11:10 <andythenorth> and then graphics_dir is a var set to â32bppâ or âlow_res' 14:11:22 <V453000> Encoding: 1/7149 14:11:24 <V453000> good luck computer 14:11:26 <andythenorth> and then have the render job output a super low-res version 14:11:40 <andythenorth> for testing of code only 14:11:46 <V453000> sure sure 14:11:54 <V453000> for code I dont think there is anything that should be breaking atm 14:12:05 <andythenorth> I have no patience for slow compiles :) 14:12:06 <V453000> the logic worked for 3 sprites, should as well work for 2500 14:12:15 <andythenorth> baseset has no code really? 14:12:22 <V453000> I have it as newgrf atm 14:16:53 <planetmaker> andythenorth, the encoding is not a problem for the 2nd run as nmlc caches it all 14:17:18 <planetmaker> switching and using lowres / highres would *increase* the time 14:17:24 <andythenorth> agreed 14:17:31 <andythenorth> why are his jobs so long then? o_O 14:20:23 <krinn> does nmlc produce object and link them at end or simply link what was just build? 14:22:05 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-117-248.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #openttd 14:27:11 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:27:56 <V453000> yeah with cache it is ridiculouslyh fast :) 14:28:04 <V453000> 5820/7149 now :) 14:28:10 <V453000> aaaafter... 17 minutes 14:28:13 <V453000> looks good 14:28:25 *** Belugas [~belugas@216.191.111.230] has joined #openttd 14:28:28 *** mode/#openttd [+o Belugas] by ChanServ 14:28:53 <andythenorth> lo Belugas 14:32:43 <Belugas> sir andythenorth :) good day 14:32:51 <V453000> heyoooo 14:33:09 <Belugas> hello to you too, and allthe others silently watching over hahaha! 14:33:56 <krinn> hello then 14:35:56 <planetmaker> o/ 14:36:54 <krinn> planetmaker, nmlc/action0.py def in_range(self, addr, length): return addr >= 0 and addr + length - 1 <= self.last ---> in_range(someaddr, -1) :) 14:37:15 <planetmaker> krinn, nmlc first builds a symbolic expression tree, then builds the grf from that 14:38:52 <planetmaker> what do you want to tell me with that quote, krinn ? 14:39:10 <krinn> i must say i'm impress by nmlc, you guys did a nice job 14:39:27 <krinn> planetmaker, with -1 you're goes out of bound, while it should return true 14:40:27 <krinn> addr>0 and addr-2 < self.last 14:41:25 <planetmaker> so you argue it misses a check on the length argument, that length is positive? 14:41:37 <krinn> yep 14:42:13 <krinn> dunno why someone would do that ; but bugs might 14:43:37 <planetmaker> the only call to that function is in line 256 of the same file. The length argument is always positive :) 14:44:49 <krinn> num_ids is check >0 ? 14:47:23 <planetmaker> num_ids are by definition in the code > 0. It's part of the grfspecs 14:48:00 <krinn> and people never pass out of specs values :) 14:48:19 <planetmaker> people cannot write that. It's nml internal stuff 14:49:19 <krinn> ok (find_unused and some other were sharing the same problem) 14:49:35 <V453000> memory error :( 14:49:51 <planetmaker> however, I definitely do not want to discourage you. And patches to nml are gladly accepted 14:50:06 <planetmaker> at least assertions could be placed on these things 14:50:12 <V453000> XD worked upon retrying 14:50:47 <krinn> <- know 0 in python, know 0 in c, know 0 in so many stuff :) 14:52:08 <krinn> know just enough to say: <krinn> i must say i'm impress by nmlc, you guys did a nice job 14:53:01 <planetmaker> though there's line 374 of action0.py which asserts on len = num_ids 14:54:49 <krinn> where is nmlc code (i have only eddi fork one, and it gets odd to find where is line 374 in it, as it doesn't have the len = num_ids check) 14:57:44 <planetmaker> same place as eddi's fork really 14:57:53 <planetmaker> except to leave out the eddi- part 14:59:57 <krinn> grftools is nmlc? 15:06:25 <krinn> ok later guys 15:06:29 *** krinn [~krinn@204.227.101.84.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:21:28 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:31:26 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has quit [Quit: Å el hudrovat o dům dál] 15:49:17 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 15:52:23 *** Quatroking_ [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 15:53:37 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:57:33 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:58:02 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has quit [Quit: Å el hudrovat o dům dál] 16:00:18 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 16:03:10 <andythenorth> where cat? 16:03:11 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 16:08:55 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has quit [Quit: Å el hudrovat o dům dál] 16:14:21 *** tokai|mdlx [~tokai@port-92-195-117-248.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 16:16:03 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:16:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 16:17:24 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 16:19:31 <andythenorth> V453000: roads are good, itâs getting there 16:19:38 <andythenorth> those buildings are ZBase? 16:19:44 <V453000> yeah 16:19:54 <V453000> last re-rendering and publishing stuff soon :) 16:20:00 <andythenorth> you going to recreate original TTD builings in your own style? Or invent 100% new? 16:20:16 <V453000> tbh I hate how ogfx and zbase just recreates original 16:20:23 <V453000> I think I might keep parts of them, but mostly new 16:20:48 <V453000> will see how creative I get 16:21:00 <V453000> the original still kind of has something magical in it :) 16:21:50 <andythenorth> yeah 16:21:59 <andythenorth> but recreating in 32bpp lets the magic smoke out 16:22:28 <planetmaker> V453000, creating originally new ones is the way to go! :) 16:22:45 <V453000> :) 16:22:57 <planetmaker> but there are a few constraints... mind the name of the buildings you draw. They should make sense 16:23:21 <planetmaker> and the animation / palette re-colouring makes sense to keep in mind for those where it matters 16:24:00 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:24:03 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:25:17 <andythenorth> how to explain... 16:25:36 <andythenorth> the original is based on pixel art cheats you can get away with due to contrast 16:25:43 <andythenorth> so lots of the buildings physically make no sense 16:25:50 <andythenorth> one wall would be higher than the other for example 16:26:01 <andythenorth> the roofs are often stupidly thick 16:26:12 <V453000> meh :) that doesnt mean I cant make stupidly thick models :P 16:26:16 <andythenorth> and the dimensions of doors and windows would look all wrong when rendering :) 16:26:26 <andythenorth> that is where the magic smoke would leak out 16:26:32 <V453000> mhm :) well lets see 16:27:30 <andythenorth> *if* I was to start rendering (eh, no), I would probably do something in this direction 16:27:31 <andythenorth> https://lh6.ggpht.com/nQsvNBvzhC-4QCVejpEl9CdK4qLvSKmEgM1MCymqQulqpKiBgS0LNY4fMiTj9_BOcA=h900 16:27:35 <andythenorth> http://www.mmohunter.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Township_3_Town-views.jpg 16:27:38 <andythenorth> http://images.virtualworldsland.com/games/228/gallery/498.jpg 16:29:17 <V453000> yeah :) 16:29:27 <andythenorth> low poly, exagerrated shapes, beautiful render set up 16:29:39 <V453000> yay 16:29:42 <V453000> the bridges are fun 16:31:37 <V453000> I love this kind of imagez :) though they feel a bit too cuddly/sweet/soft for OpenTTD to me :) 16:31:45 <V453000> but hell yeah why not 16:32:19 <V453000> could create something like that eventually for toyland/5th/extra climate 16:33:29 <Alberth> first one has a beautiful station in the shape of a steam engine :) 16:34:03 *** pxr [~Mychomize@46-236-110-230.customer.t3.se] has joined #openttd 16:34:09 *** pixar [~Mychomize@46-236-110-230.customer.t3.se] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:34:12 <V453000> I like every piece of it really :D 16:35:40 <andythenorth> or I would do something more minimal and white 16:35:51 <andythenorth> we rendered an animated series once in pure white, blue and beige 16:35:55 <andythenorth> with red for the blood 16:36:02 <andythenorth> itâs offline right now though :P 16:36:29 <andythenorth> oh someone pirated it on YT 16:36:30 <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S90kfeD1P6I 16:37:08 <V453000> oh yeah :D 16:37:22 <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNcx2ttVsrk 16:37:29 <andythenorth> wow, low rez 16:39:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1936B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:41:26 <V453000> hmm RAWR postproduction using 16GB ram 16:42:18 <andythenorth> push the boundaries 16:42:23 <andythenorth> you need a render farm 16:42:31 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has quit [Quit: Å el hudrovat o dům dál] 16:42:38 <V453000> nah its fine :) 16:42:48 <andythenorth> buy another box and leave it watching batch jobs on a shared disk 16:42:53 <V453000> rendering over night and if I wanted I could render on multiple PCs 16:43:23 <V453000> now I am rendering last moment because I want to get it finished already :D 16:49:58 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 17:03:52 <V453000> lets see what does bananas have to say about 300 MB 17:03:59 <V453000> and I dont think its opinion will be sparta 17:05:23 <planetmaker> you have to use musa. but you know that, I guess :) 17:06:02 <V453000> sure, that is obvious :) 17:06:10 <V453000> got that prepared already 17:06:39 <V453000> hm will need some more rendering :> 17:07:19 * andythenorth should make some teaser images for Iron Horse 17:07:23 <andythenorth> 'marketing' 17:07:24 <andythenorth> :P 17:08:18 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:01 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 17:35:38 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:00 <andythenorth> page crashes my browser 17:38:00 <andythenorth> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/index.php?title=Callbacks&action=history 17:38:02 <andythenorth> anyone else? 17:39:22 <andythenorth> just me 17:40:14 <andythenorth> I really thought Iâd added a note about why cb 15E should not be used with any limitations 17:42:08 *** shempi [~shempi@itsthe.crabdance.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:43:59 <Alberth> works for me 17:46:06 <planetmaker> where did actually Elyon disappear to? Wasn't he the guy who worked on nml stations? 17:46:38 <andythenorth> reasonable answer? http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1141501#p1141501 17:48:54 <planetmaker> I think so 17:49:54 <andythenorth> I would update wiki, but Iâm locked out :P 17:50:01 <andythenorth> I swear I added a note somewhere 17:51:27 <andythenorth> ah, I think nml vehicle cbs page handles the issue by simpling not describing how to prevent refit? 17:51:31 <andythenorth> http://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Vehicle_callbacks 17:53:59 <planetmaker> those who know how to use a callback know how to fail them 17:55:05 <andythenorth> oh you replied to McZ too 17:55:11 * andythenorth was typing for a while :) 17:55:34 <planetmaker> CB_FAILED is not hard to know and described in the general sections on callbacks 17:58:05 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:59:57 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1936B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:04:17 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:20 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 18:11:06 *** Flippy [~flippy@2a02:25b0:aaaa:5da:face:face:face:1112] has joined #openttd 18:11:37 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 18:12:07 *** naliao [~Naliao@107-133-209-15.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 18:19:24 *** guru3_ is now known as guru3 18:27:23 *** Haube [~Michi@ip25048c11.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 18:30:11 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 18:31:05 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-4d01ae3b.pool.mediaways.net] has joined #openttd 18:32:23 *** Haube1 [~Michi@31.7.58.38] has joined #openttd 18:36:58 *** Haube [~Michi@ip25048c11.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:37:04 <Alberth> hi hi 18:37:54 <V453000> hihi 18:45:10 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:54:35 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@blfd-4d08ea86.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Yo.] 18:55:39 *** quorzom [~quorzom@cable-78-35-98-177.netcologne.de] has joined #openttd 19:00:03 <V453000> RAWR 19:06:06 <Alberth> \O/ 19:06:21 <NGC3982> Maybe it's time i try that thing.. 19:09:48 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i528C39A6.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:10:41 * NGC3982 feels stupid, but does not understand how to apprahend it. 19:11:32 <V453000> ? 19:16:08 <V453000> anyway, what could be the cause of this? only happens in x4 and x4, at the edge of the map 19:23:59 <peter1138> apprahend? 19:24:40 <V453000> ....... link :) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/RAWRbug.png 19:25:20 * NGC3982 forgot to check the online content. 19:28:48 <Alberth> the nothing! 19:47:30 <peter1138> Your void tile is wrong? 19:49:32 <V453000> no clue 19:49:40 <V453000> I have no idea what is a void tile 19:50:37 <peter1138> Oh yeah, we don't have them any more. 20:01:31 <NGC3982> V453000: Them industry animations are bliss. 20:01:42 <V453000> :) 20:01:56 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1936B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:05:30 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 20:06:37 <frosch123> V453000: maybe a shade of alpha, which ottd turns into black? 20:06:46 <V453000> idk 20:06:58 <V453000> I would assume some bad offset? 20:07:24 <frosch123> it's the bulldozed bare earth tiles, converted to black 20:08:42 <NGC3982> I guess one should consider zBase -and- rawr? 20:09:26 <V453000> doesnt really matter, I used it with any base set 20:09:44 <V453000> not much will remain out of zbase so it is lookable at 20:09:55 <V453000> just buildings/bridges/airports/stations 20:09:56 <V453000> mainly 20:10:37 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 20:11:24 <NGC3982> Ok 20:16:19 <NGC3982> How does one get the correct wagons for YETI dudes and so on? 20:16:52 <V453000> NUTS - monorail chameleon / maglev medium / maglev fast / maglev animal express and slugs 20:17:01 <V453000> pineapple trains have some flatbeds too 20:18:02 <NGC3982> Is it usable with the vanilla trains? 20:18:53 <V453000> no 20:19:14 <NGC3982> Aight *downloads* 20:21:01 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 20:21:30 <FLHerne> NGC3982: Presumably OGFX+ trains will carry them 20:21:34 <NGC3982> Oh! 20:21:36 <FLHerne> But without the funny graphics 20:21:50 * NGC3982 core2duo struggles a tad. 20:22:09 <FLHerne> NGC3982: C2D here, doesn't seem to struggle all that much 20:22:44 <NGC3982> I'm still at the NewGRF settings window, and the program is unreachable at the moment. 20:22:51 <NGC3982> But that's no error, i guess. It's a big file :-) 20:23:43 <V453000> NGC3982: do you have sprite cache size increased? 20:23:43 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:23:56 *** Extrems [borgs@modemcable204.141-177-173.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:23:59 <NGC3982> I haven't really checked. 20:24:06 <NGC3982> I'll try and play first, fix later. 20:37:29 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:43:49 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:49:34 <argoneus> V453000: RAWR 20:49:41 <V453000> RAWR 20:58:43 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:05:45 *** Midnight101 [~Midnight1@136-61.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:13:42 *** Yotson [~Yotson@2001:980:6ac8:1:a5ab:6c28:b2d0:2316] has quit [Quit: .] 21:27:52 *** deniz1a [~kvirc@78.181.159.97] has joined #openttd 21:28:20 <deniz1a> there are no electric trains in sub arctic? 21:29:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 21:34:53 <deniz1a> ok yes vehicle sets are different for sub-arctic 21:34:58 *** deniz1a [~kvirc@78.181.159.97] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:42:04 *** FreeZeee [FreeZeee@ipv6.libra.panicbnc.net] has quit [Quit: PanicBNC - http://PanicBNC.net] 21:47:58 <andythenorth> hurgh 21:48:11 <andythenorth> should FIRS do this extra parameters for closing / opening etc 21:48:17 * andythenorth couldnât care less either way 21:52:00 *** Haube1 [~Michi@31.7.58.38] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:58:03 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 22:03:04 *** oskari892 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 22:03:47 *** FreeZeee [FreeZeee@ipv6.libra.panicbnc.net] has joined #openttd 22:09:13 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:12:30 *** itsatacoshop247 [~itsatacos@2601:9:1180:237:f16d:3c7a:3ff5:b6bc] has joined #openttd 22:16:38 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 22:21:22 *** FUZxxl [~fuz@d00m.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:21:24 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.205.148.225.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Quit: AdiIRC is the next kick-ass irc client! 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