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00:02:20 *** Oddingar [~Odd@141.0.247.16] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:02:30 *** Oddingar [~Odd@141.0.247.16] has joined #openttd 00:03:07 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has joined #openttd 00:20:51 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:27:25 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.100.106] has joined #openttd 00:32:59 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-155-131.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:36:40 *** dfox [~dfox@94.142.237.120] has joined #openttd 00:55:46 *** strohalm [~smoofi@212.37.169.214] has joined #openttd 01:02:22 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:06:50 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-177-242.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:13:48 *** Katje [freemadi@mail.quixotic.eu] has joined #openttd 01:14:14 <Katje> Is there a way to stop the little box at the bottom of the screen popping up to tell me about every industry doing something? I've set it to summary, but it isn't stopping it... 01:16:17 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:17:59 <Eddi|zuHause> the news settings have three states: popup, ticker or off 01:18:23 <Eddi|zuHause> also, there are separate settings for industries you service, and industries you don't service 01:19:15 <Katje> where is that setting ? 01:19:35 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@kel30.kel.studentenwerk-goettingen.de] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [SeaMonkey 2.32.1/20150207155745]] 01:19:40 <glx> in the ? menu IIRC 01:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> no, next to the ? menu in the newspaper menu 01:20:28 <Eddi|zuHause> or maybe they got moved to the normal settings 01:20:35 <Katje> that has two options: message history, and last message 01:21:17 *** luaduck is now known as luaduck_zzz 01:21:52 <glx> In OpenTTD 1.3.0, these settings were moved to Advanced Settings/Interface. 01:21:58 <glx> ah yes it's moved 01:22:35 <Katje> where abouts? I'm looking, but can't see an option 01:22:49 <glx> http://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Interface#News_and_Messages 01:24:14 <Katje> no mention of the word "ticker" on that page 01:24:55 <Eddi|zuHause> it might not be called "ticker" anymore 01:25:09 <Eddi|zuHause> who even remembers what a ticker is? 01:25:28 <Katje> true 01:26:02 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway. i think the ticker is a terrible feature anyway, even worse than the popup 01:26:50 <Katje> oh 01:26:52 <Katje> so where is off ? 01:31:19 <Katje> oh, that's why that station has a poor rating, nothing serves it. *headdesk* 01:33:37 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6D4C.versanet.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 01:36:59 *** roadt_ [~roadt@223.240.100.106] has quit [Quit: æ犻] 01:37:07 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.106] has joined #openttd 01:39:19 *** tulsy [5ec0ed09@107.161.19.109] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 01:41:48 *** tulsy [5ec0ed09@107.161.19.109] has joined #openttd 01:48:46 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@58.108.147.26] has joined #openttd 02:01:31 *** Speedy [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:02:07 *** Pikkaphone2 [~yaaic@131.181.158.132] has joined #openttd 02:02:33 <Pikkaphone2> you won't believe what happened next... 02:02:49 <peter1138> well i might 02:03:15 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 02:08:43 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:08:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i won't believe what happened previously either 02:09:03 *** Pikkaphone [~yaaic@58.108.147.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:09:24 <Eddi|zuHause> why is it "previously" but not "nextly"? 02:11:03 <peter1138> well i could tell you 02:11:24 <peter1138> bit i'd have to research it first 02:11:54 <Eddi|zuHause> *phew* i was afraid you'd have to kill me. 02:12:57 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 02:15:04 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:31 *** supermop [~supermop@d110-33-177-242.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 02:18:33 *** Flygon [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:18:57 <Eddi|zuHause> "An anti-vaccination activist offered a 100.000⬠prize to anyone who could prove to him that the measle virus actually existed. after a medical researcher sent him the documents, he refused to pay on the grounds that he is still not convinced. a court now decided that he has to pay, after consulting an expert on whether the documents indeed fulfill the requirements" 02:20:48 <Sylf> lmao 02:25:32 *** Speedy` [~speedy@the.wrong.domain.name] has joined #openttd 02:25:42 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 02:27:55 <peter1138> drrp 02:38:18 *** Pereba [~UserNick@191.32.227.59] has quit [Quit: They did not count on my cleverness! (www.AdiIRC.com)] 03:12:21 <Katje> I wish there was a way to build stations on angles, would make a lot of things easier... 03:16:59 <Eddi|zuHause> most places will insist that stations be absolutely flat, so trains don't have to wait with their brakes engaged 03:17:21 <Katje> I meant diagonals. 03:17:28 <Katje> rather than slopes 03:17:33 <Katje> sorry, my bad 03:17:58 <Sylf> I demand curved platforms! 03:17:58 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, that might be useful 03:18:23 <Katje> I demand cake... 03:18:33 <Eddi|zuHause> the cake is a lie 03:18:34 <Katje> Eddi|zuHause: Not sure how you could encode it in the game mechanic tho. 03:18:59 <Eddi|zuHause> the game mechanics aren't really the problem 03:19:06 *** DanMacK [~3265a7d8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 03:19:10 <Eddi|zuHause> the NewGRFs are a bigger problem 03:19:15 <DanMacK> Hey all 03:19:22 <supermop> seems neither diagonal nor sloped stations are that hard as i've seen both mocked up in patches 03:19:26 <supermop> hi DanMacK 03:19:48 <Eddi|zuHause> there was a really really really ancient patch for diagonal stations 03:19:56 <Eddi|zuHause> so ancient that it was even before my time :p 03:19:59 <DanMacK> Diagonal stations would be handy 03:20:05 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: is ageless 03:20:44 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm probably below average in this channel :p 03:20:55 <Eddi|zuHause> but i meant before i joined here 03:21:47 <supermop> i'm above average here I feel, but if we are going by knowledge and career accomplishments, I think I'd be about 12 03:22:19 <Eddi|zuHause> what's a career? :p 03:22:29 <supermop> i'll tell you when i find one 03:22:31 <Katje> Bah, funding new industries really isn't coste effective... 03:22:52 <supermop> i often fund for SV GS 03:23:16 <Katje> ? 03:23:17 <Eddi|zuHause> Katje: that really depends on your level of megalomaniism 03:23:17 <supermop> in a regular game I usually just disregard them 03:23:23 <supermop> silicon valley 03:24:06 <supermop> beyond just the ones you must fund for the goal, i often fund others in the same chain 03:24:27 <Katje> I was thinking of oil rigs 03:24:29 <supermop> as in firs basic economies you quickly max out production 03:24:29 <Katje> sooo expensive 03:24:48 <Katje> also, what is the 300 quid in "other" on the budget window ? 03:24:51 <Eddi|zuHause> primary industries are way more expensive 03:25:19 <Eddi|zuHause> Katje: fees for being a company 03:25:25 <Katje> aaah 03:25:31 <Katje> always wondered... 03:25:36 <Sylf> CEO paycheck? 03:25:45 <Eddi|zuHause> basically a "we make sure you go bankrupt if you do nothing" feature 03:25:50 <Katje> lol 03:26:15 <supermop> i'd hope i'm taking home more that 300 quid if i run a monopoly with a deathgrip on a region's economy 03:26:33 <Katje> m too 03:26:43 <Sylf> 300 in 1900 value shouldn't be too shoddy 03:26:52 <Eddi|zuHause> if you run a monopoly without a death grip, what's the point? :p 03:26:54 <Katje> it's 2017... 03:27:08 <supermop> he's a very altruist ceo 03:27:19 <supermop> only doing it for the good of the region 03:28:05 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: but then still you might have a death grip whether you want one or not 03:28:52 <supermop> well ottd has no corporate taxes, but maybe the personal income tax is high so he keeps all his cash in the company 03:28:52 <Eddi|zuHause> if you have a monopoly without death grip, it basically means you don't matter at all. you might just leave what you're doing and not affect anybody 03:30:32 <supermop> do the little driveways on the corner tile look stupid? i may leave them out of the larger radii turns 03:31:49 <Eddi|zuHause> why you always have to ask these questions in the middle of the night? :p 03:33:45 <Katje> supermop: which tile ? 03:34:30 <supermop> its the only time i'm on in Australia at which Europeans are also on? 03:34:57 <supermop> Katje: http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1144525#p1144525 03:35:33 <Eddi|zuHause> try in 6 hours or so, you might catch the early shift :p 03:36:20 <Eddi|zuHause> (also, asynchronous methods of communication) 03:42:47 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:49:35 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:50:59 <Katje> What makes an industry close down ? 03:52:54 <supermop> dependds on industry grf 03:53:16 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:53:38 <supermop> in default industries, it happens when the production moves to zero as a result of the default production changes I believe 03:54:10 <Katje> is there anything you can do to encourage this ? 03:54:16 <supermop> so a never serviced default industry has a chance to eventually close 03:54:20 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:54:33 <supermop> some, like the default power plant do not close if i recall though 03:55:12 <supermop> so you may want to use a new grf like ogfx+ industries if your map if clogged with power plants 03:56:29 <supermop> i think each quarter the industries have a chance to change production, and if the industry is not serviced at all thaat chance will be biased towards decreasing 03:56:51 <supermop> but unserviced industries have a chance to remain the same or even increase 03:57:06 <supermop> (for primary industries) 04:00:34 <Katje> there is an unserviced oil refinery entirely in the way 04:04:14 <Katje> production last month: 0 crates of goods (0% transported) 04:23:38 <supermop> just have to wait 04:24:10 <supermop> i think the more industries are on the map, the less likely that one will be chosen for closure 04:24:29 <Katje> ah 04:32:22 <DanMacK> Could always Ctrl+alt+C it 04:32:56 <Katje> ? 04:33:10 <DanMacK> Ctrl+Alt+C and use the Magic Bulldozer 04:33:14 <Katje> ah yes 04:33:17 <Katje> was tryign to avoid that 04:33:26 <DanMacK> well yeah... 04:41:36 <Katje> I should bed 04:42:50 *** Pikkaphone2 [~yaaic@131.181.158.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:48:42 <Katje> *FINALLY* that oil refinery has closed 04:52:57 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 04:59:38 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:59:55 *** DanMacK [~3265a7d8@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 05:10:16 <supermop> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1144644#p1144644 05:10:25 <supermop> damnit danmack left 05:28:20 <Flygon_> supermop: I do wish the game could dynamically adjust for things such as driveways 05:28:24 <Flygon_> Or, as you've pointed out 05:28:26 <Flygon_> Tramlines 05:36:40 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:37:33 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@147.18.214.218.sta.commander.net.au] has joined #openttd 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD4F09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC662A7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:02:53 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 06:34:31 *** guru3_ [~guru3@90-230-86-71-no225.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #openttd 06:34:36 *** guru3 [~guru3@000128ea.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:36:03 *** frodus2 [~oftc-webi@mail.offsim.no] has joined #openttd 06:37:00 *** frodus2 [~oftc-webi@mail.offsim.no] has quit [] 06:37:23 *** frodus [~frodus@213.161.247.226] has joined #openttd 06:51:13 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 06:57:32 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-71-185-189-198.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 06:57:51 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@D97BA869.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 06:57:53 *** KWKdesign [~KWKdesign@pool-71-185-189-198.phlapa.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 07:03:16 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97BA869.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:47:03 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 07:55:33 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:15:04 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 08:15:45 <frodus> Hi Guys, Just wanted to say that we now have a fully working docker.io container for OPENTTD :) So setting up a dedicated openttd server have never been easier 08:19:04 <frodus> https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/bateau/openttd/ Let us know what you guys think :) 08:20:13 *** Dennis_ [~Dennis@095-097-036-194.static.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:24:02 *** TheMask96- [martijn@lust.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 08:24:02 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:38:26 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:39:05 <alluke> has anyone got an idea how to install and use python scripts in gimp? 08:39:31 <alluke> this piece of shit program cannot export layers into .psd 08:41:51 <V453000> why do you use the piece of shit program then :D 08:44:46 *** roadt [~roadt@223.240.100.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:47:49 *** Celestar [~Celestar@80.120.70.146] has joined #openttd 08:47:52 *** Celestar [~Celestar@80.120.70.146] has left #openttd [] 08:47:58 <alluke> because someone thought it would be great idea to convert ALL the source files from psd to xcf 08:48:10 *** liq3 [~liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:48:17 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:50:40 <alluke> saying that xcf is free, but i have never paid a single cent to adobe either 08:55:43 <V453000> bad shit then :) 08:59:25 <alluke> yep 09:03:27 <alluke> yay success 09:04:03 <alluke> had to export all the layers as png, then load into stack via photoshop script :) 09:07:43 <V453000> nice enuf 09:09:55 <peter1138> So you pirated Adobe software? 09:10:08 <peter1138> And that makes it "free" 09:11:55 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 09:12:00 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has left #openttd [] 09:12:38 <alluke> yes? 09:15:19 <peter1138> xcf is free. 09:15:36 <peter1138> I can use it, I can modify it, I can do what I like with it. 09:15:57 *** Dennis_ [~Dennis@095-097-036-194.static.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:16:00 <alluke> will adobe send you a bill if you save a file as .psd in gimp? 09:16:43 <peter1138> No, because I have no dealing with Adobe, including not pirating their software. 09:16:48 <V453000> I dont think piracy is something that bad 09:17:03 <V453000> if you pirate software, there is likelihood you will eventually buy it 09:17:11 <V453000> if you use free software from start, you probably wont change 09:17:44 <V453000> example, if someone models in blender for years, learning to use 3Dmax is annoying to say the least 09:18:02 <V453000> and nobody will buy 00 software just because they want to start learning it 09:18:06 <peter1138> Very very minimal likelihood. 09:18:32 <peter1138> To argue that software is free, because you pirated it... that is idiotic. 09:18:38 <V453000> I dont say it is free 09:18:48 <V453000> I say it isnt harming the author if you pirate it 09:19:06 <peter1138> V453000, alluke did. 09:19:17 <V453000> because it is still making the software more used, and the lost profit is probably nonexistent since you would use free software instead 09:19:26 <V453000> well sure alluke is an idiot, so idiotic 09:19:34 <V453000> anything surprising? :P 09:20:08 <alluke> ha ha 09:20:26 <alluke> i couldnt care less about multi-million american corporations 09:20:44 <peter1138> "It's okay for me to use this software for free because I won't pay for it" is a stupid argument too. 09:21:08 <V453000> sure but one argument doesnt mean that the whole thing is terrible :) 09:23:23 <jonty-comp> yes but gimp is fucking awful anyway so any point is moot 09:23:30 <V453000> XD 09:23:45 <V453000> I wont argue against that because I also think it is 09:24:10 <peter1138> Gimp is terrible so it's okay to pirate Photoshop... 09:24:24 <V453000> I think it is okay to pirate useful software in general 09:24:37 <V453000> it makes more people use the software, and even if small part of them, even some will pay for it 09:24:56 <V453000> and even those some is already an increase in profit for the company, instead of all those using free software 09:25:02 <alluke> peter, how does that affect your life? do you own adobes shares? 09:25:23 <V453000> another bullshit argument alluke 09:25:24 <V453000> well done 09:25:34 <alluke> what? 09:25:43 <V453000> it matters in priciple obviously 09:26:19 <alluke> yes of course 09:26:38 <Ketsuban> Gimp won't get any better if people just waste time and bandwidth pirating Photoshop and complaining on forums that Gimp sucks in ways they can't elaborate on because they haven't used it in six years. 09:27:18 <V453000> that applies to anything anywhere, and on both sides Ketsuban 09:27:22 <V453000> that doesnt really make much sense 09:27:48 <V453000> especially since then the pirating of photoshop furtherly helps Adobe to slow down progress of their competitor - Gimp 09:28:50 <Ketsuban> Adobe can pay companies (in the form of discounted copies of Photoshop) to use Photoshop and tell them what sucks. The Gimp developers don't have that luxury. 09:29:32 <V453000> with similar logic Adobe can also buy a nuclear weapon and get rid of Gimp 09:29:36 <V453000> sure, money can solve that 09:53:34 <juzza1> alluke: Can you have indexed palette and layers in psd? No. Can you use a unix command-line tool to export pngs directly from the source psd files? No (ignoring broken imagemagick export and slow&broken gimp export) 10:13:58 <alluke> those dont sound really revolutionary features to me 10:14:24 <alluke> indexing in ps and exporting as png don't take many clicks 10:17:59 <peter1138> It takes clicks at all. 10:18:29 <peter1138> That completely breaks automation. 10:20:19 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has joined #openttd 10:38:26 *** Dennis_ [~Dennis@095-097-036-194.static.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 10:39:28 *** Dennis_ [~Dennis@095-097-036-194.static.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:40:28 *** dennis_ [~dennis_@ec2-54-163-205-130.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #openttd 10:45:37 *** __ln___ [~lauri@cable-tku-58c3cb-155.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:45:49 *** __ln__ [~lauri@cable-tku-58c3cb-155.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 10:53:21 *** shadowalker [~dark@le.shadownet.io] has quit [Server closed connection] 10:53:39 *** shadowalker [~dark@le.shadownet.io] has joined 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[~JayMayer@81.130.2.22] has quit [] 19:38:14 <andythenorth> o/ 19:39:06 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc20-stap11-2-0-cust392.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 19:42:32 <andythenorth> does the cat even exist? 19:42:40 <andythenorth> if itâs never found, how do we know itâs there? 19:42:55 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27183 trunk/src/table/object_land.h (2015-03-13 19:42:49 UTC) 19:42:56 <DorpsGek> -Fix: GCC5 compilation 19:44:26 *** JayMayer [~JayMayer@81.130.2.22] has joined #openttd 19:45:12 *** JayMayer [~JayMayer@81.130.2.22] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:47:19 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:49:27 <andythenorth> eh 19:49:36 <andythenorth> cargodist and âover-productionâ 19:49:38 <andythenorth> how to fix? 19:51:47 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 19:51:51 <frosch123> add a waifu-mode setting 19:52:09 <frosch123> sets all stations to fixed "50 items" of cargo waiting 19:54:40 <andythenorth> winner 19:54:59 <andythenorth> my prescription is âmoarâ vehicles 19:55:01 <V453000> CAT FOUND 19:55:05 <andythenorth> which will raise station waitings 19:55:09 <andythenorth> V453000: thereâs a cat? o_O 19:55:18 <TrueBrain> www.google.com 19:55:20 <V453000> CAT EVERYWHERE 19:55:21 <FLHerne> andythenorth: town-cargo production multiplier in settings, there's a patch for that 19:55:21 <TrueBrain> has plenty of cats 19:55:22 <V453000> EVERYTHING IS CAT 19:55:25 <V453000> THAT IS THE SECRET 19:55:38 <V453000> hi TB :) 19:55:46 <TrueBrain> so tempted to do @kick ... but I like your humor too much :P 19:55:51 <andythenorth> FLHerne: how does that fix it? o_O 19:56:16 <FLHerne> Not so useful in multiplayer, but the sorts of styles where 'overloading' is a nuisance rather than a challenge don't work so well for that anyway 19:56:39 <V453000> WAT 19:56:40 <V453000> :( 19:56:43 <TrueBrain> :D 19:57:10 <V453000> TB I am completely relevant to 99% of andythenorth's lines in this channel 19:57:12 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Reducing overloadedness-before-trying-something-else tends to spread loading quite evenly on anything not totally linear 19:57:37 <TrueBrain> so many easy remarks to make .... 19:57:39 <TrueBrain> so many .. 19:57:41 <TrueBrain> *total overload* 19:57:43 <V453000> asdf 19:57:51 <TrueBrain> lkjh 19:58:11 <frosch123> who is left-handed? :p 19:58:22 <peter1138> zxcv 19:58:26 *** shadowalker is now known as shadowalkerAFK 19:58:44 <andythenorth> the thing with gaffer tape solutions 19:58:48 <andythenorth> is that if they donât work 19:58:50 <andythenorth> you can add more tape 19:58:56 <FLHerne> So CDist is already reasonable at not overloading particular routes when there's an option, IME, it just manages to overload the entire network simultaenously once the spare capacity runs out 19:59:10 <FLHerne> "Duct tape is not a perfect solution to anything. But with a little creativity, in a pinch, it's an adequate solution to just about everything." 19:59:16 <frosch123> andythenorth: what is the gaffer tape solution to the problem of not having enough gaffer tape? 19:59:30 <andythenorth> frosch123: thatâs a meta problem 19:59:31 <TrueBrain> more gaffer tape, duh 20:00:59 <andythenorth> is there a solution where more transport doesnât produce more cargo? 20:01:28 <FLHerne> andythenorth: Your nice supplies mechanic applied to towns? 20:01:41 <V453000> is the question "would it be a dumb solution" ? :P 20:02:04 <FLHerne> Growth rate 0 for 0 crates goods, multipliers up to some limit if you pile in a lot 20:02:12 <TrueBrain> *lolz* 20:02:12 <andythenorth> ho ho, TTD is missing http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/zt23gk7 20:02:21 <andythenorth> we made all the good games except Doom 20:02:22 <FLHerne> People keep thinking that goods increases growth rate, so maybe it ought to :P 20:02:35 <TrueBrain> what is this TTD you talk about? 20:04:27 <andythenorth> a thing from 1994 20:04:29 <andythenorth> or so 20:04:31 <andythenorth> dunno 20:04:40 <andythenorth> itâs dead and buried I guess 20:05:10 <V453000> or dying 20:05:26 <TrueBrain> HARTMASSAGE 20:05:28 <TrueBrain> SAFE IT 20:05:29 <TrueBrain> NOW 20:05:58 <V453000> IMA MAKE SOME 32BPP 20:06:02 <V453000> HOPE IT HELPS 20:06:12 <TrueBrain> WE NEED MORE CAPSLOCK TO SAFE IT 20:06:16 <V453000> MOAR PIXULZ R THE SOLUTION 20:06:26 <TrueBrain> BUT THE GAME IS NOT REALISTIC! 20:07:16 <V453000> oh shet 20:07:20 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.179.109] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:23 <V453000> lets increase vehicle scale to times 4 then 20:07:27 <V453000> hope it solves shit 20:07:30 <V453000> train as big as 2 houses 20:07:31 <V453000> no problem 20:07:36 <andythenorth> moar capacity 20:07:55 <frosch123> just at a 3 in front of the year 20:08:05 <frosch123> *add 20:08:08 <V453000> ... am actually doing that :P https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/DOOM/CHOOCHOOO3.png 20:08:30 <frosch123> trains move that fast in 31955 20:08:49 <TrueBrain> cool :D 20:12:55 <TrueBrain> if we do not have teleports in 31955 I am going to be really upset 20:14:14 <frosch123> there are, but they are considered uncool 20:14:37 <TrueBrain> for the plebs 20:14:46 <TrueBrain> real people go by train :D 20:23:49 <andythenorth> what about real cats? 20:32:56 <TrueBrain> cooked or fried? 20:37:06 <andythenorth> dunno, which do you prefer? 20:47:42 <V453000> baked 20:49:29 <TrueBrain> boiled 20:49:37 <TrueBrain> like a lobster! 20:52:34 <andythenorth> also bye 20:52:35 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 20:53:35 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27184 /trunk/src/lang (36 files in 2 dirs) (2015-03-13 20:53:29 UTC) 20:53:36 <DorpsGek> -Cleanup: remove some removed strings 20:54:42 <DorpsGek> Commit by rubidium :: r27185 trunk/src/window.cpp (2015-03-13 20:54:35 UTC) 20:54:43 <DorpsGek> -Fix: prevent the compiler from optimizing an assignment away which caused GCC 5 to actually crash 20:56:35 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #openttd 21:00:49 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6A63F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 21:03:44 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:06:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6D4C.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:07:11 *** alluke [~oftc-webi@62-78-237-171.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:19:55 *** luaduck_zzz is now known as luaduck 21:20:40 *** Pereba [~UserNick@191.32.227.59] has joined #openttd 21:26:51 *** Plaete [~moffi@dsdf-4d0a2c35.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 21:27:03 *** Suicyder [~Suicyder@86.92.59.88] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Now with extra fish!] 21:35:54 <Samu> TerronAI crashed 21:36:41 *** Celestar [~Celestar@80.120.70.146] has joined #openttd 21:41:07 *** GriffinOneTwo [~oftc-webi@adsl-68-125-32-216.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:43:47 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:46:45 <Samu> daium, ChooChoo is a really slow pathfinder 22:25:32 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 22:26:16 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18F7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:30:15 <Samu> I m slightly disappointed by ChooChoo, it station spreads 22:30:20 <Samu> cheater 22:30:39 <Samu> and its pathfinder takes soo much time 22:31:01 <ST2> a cheater AI... whoooohooo \o/ 22:31:28 <Samu> 5 game years to built a rail connection to a junction 22:31:44 <Samu> then 5 other years to built the rest for the way back 22:32:33 <ST2> any Admiral running? somehow I liked that AI ^^ 22:32:57 <Samu> AdmiralAI was tested a few days ago 22:33:19 <Samu> it doesn't clear failed train stations 22:33:58 <Samu> its pathfinding is relatively slow for my liking, but not as slow as choochoo 22:35:12 <Samu> may take 1 year before completing a route or giving up 22:35:12 *** roidal_ [~roland@194-152-173-141.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1] 22:35:32 <Samu> choochoo is currently 20 years in-game and still pathfinding :( 22:37:54 <Samu> i have choochoo vs terron 22:39:52 *** shadowalkerAFK is now known as shadowalker 22:40:15 <Samu> I wish NoCarGoal could just stop popup the storybook every year 22:47:42 <Samu> i see what choochoo is trying to do, a nice feeder system with trains and buses 22:48:13 <Samu> but I don't quite understand what's the junction for 22:50:23 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18F7A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:00:25 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 23:01:52 *** frosch123 [~frosch@frnk-5f7453b6.pool.mediaWays.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:04:00 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 23:07:01 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:10:30 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@71.12.36.79] has joined #openttd 23:14:27 *** Celestar [~Celestar@80.120.70.146] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 23:18:10 <Samu> no money :( 23:29:49 <Wolf01> 'night 23:29:52 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:44:10 *** kais58_ [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 23:44:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 23:45:25 *** shadowalker is now known as shadowalkerAFK 23:45:51 *** kais58 [~kais58@cpc3-cwma7-2-0-cust221.7-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:53:55 <Terkhen> good night 23:55:31 *** kais58_ is now known as kais58|AFK