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00:00:09 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #openttd 00:09:25 <kamnet|AFK> I was taking a nap 3 hours ago 00:16:57 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:18:14 <Eddi|zuHause> that probably doesn't help with bedtime :p 00:22:22 <kamnet|AFK> No. Probably not. 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Sorry I was distracted, finishing up Daredevil 06:18:39 <kamnet_> Or, Episode 4 at least. 06:18:51 <kamnet_> I had enough violence for the night :D 06:22:18 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-139-227.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 06:32:43 <supermop> hmm all ive done today is get a new power button on my phone 06:35:15 <andythenorth> kicking goals 06:35:59 <supermop> going to go buy some shapes for a snack, brb 06:38:09 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 06:42:47 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 06:50:50 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 06:50:53 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 06:55:50 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 06:55:53 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 06:55:58 <andythenorth> o/ 06:56:11 <Alberth> moin 06:59:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1991D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:02:53 <Alberth> why doesn't anybody ever come up with the idea to change the newgrf with different introduction dates, rather than trying to change the daylength? 07:03:31 <V453000> because historical accuracy 07:03:32 <kamnet_> I was going to make that suggestion, but I didn't want to sound snarky. 07:03:54 <V453000> and to them it sounds like a simple task, just changing the date duh 07:05:08 <kamnet_> The reason I play with daylength is because it's ridiculous that it takes a week for a vehicle to travel from one side of a city to the other, or takes months for a single train run to go between locations. 07:05:56 <Alberth> I hardly ever look at the date, it's mostly irrelevant to me 07:06:33 <Alberth> just like how many zillions you have, it's not of interest at all 07:07:30 <Alberth> but ok, fair enough to want a saner date 07:07:53 <V453000> saner date ... not many people play a 100 year game anyway 07:08:08 <V453000> and 1920-2020 sounds quite sane to me 07:08:21 <kamnet_> Perhaps. Granted it's all meaningless anyhow. It's really not a date, its just ticks. 07:08:51 <V453000> if it defines which vehicles are available and many graphics like houses change over time, it is more than just ticks :) 07:09:53 <kamnet_> They're all just Dates, houses, vehicles, they're all just tchotchke. 07:10:18 <V453000> xd 07:10:51 <kamnet_> You could strip it down to ticks, and a sprite of a box that moves across a grid. 07:11:27 <kamnet_> Qbert, it's like openttd. 07:12:40 <andythenorth> Alberth: I was going to reply suggesting newgrf 07:12:48 <andythenorth> but then I realised I was being a dick :( 07:13:40 <V453000> xd 07:13:54 <kamnet_> *laughs* Strange how that happens, isn't it? 07:14:49 <andythenorth> âI *only* want to change xâ 07:14:57 <andythenorth> and to prove that I only want to change x 07:15:04 <andythenorth> I shall enumerate all the things I do not want 07:15:12 <andythenorth> âI would like just a coffee pleaseâ 07:15:37 <andythenorth> âNot tea, nor juice, nor biscuits, cake, fruit, pies, crisps, water, beer, wineâ 07:15:58 <Alberth> it helps in establishing how different people have different views 07:16:00 <andythenorth> âNor sandwiches, peppers, salad, chips, beans, fajitasâ 07:16:24 <kamnet_> Stop, you're making me hungry! 07:16:39 <kamnet_> Now I want all those things 07:16:49 <Alberth> kamnet_ just wants all food :) much easier to specify :p 07:17:25 * kamnet_ is a newfood hoarder. :D 07:17:25 <Supercheese> Goal: Deliver 0.2 tons of food to kamnet 07:17:44 <andythenorth> from a regression testing angle, it can be great to have a list of all that must be tested, and must not change 07:17:47 <Alberth> :O that's a lot 07:18:02 <Supercheese> well, he did want *all* the things 07:22:21 <andythenorth> hmm 07:22:30 * andythenorth wonders about daylength? 07:22:34 <andythenorth> what is it for? 07:24:08 <V453000> for making a game longer when you want it shorter 07:24:28 <kamnet_> Even if I like longer games? :-) 07:25:39 <V453000> everything 07:25:40 <V453000> everywhere 07:25:56 <andythenorth> but _why_ :( 07:26:02 <andythenorth> _why_ do these people keep asking? 07:26:21 * andythenorth adopts puzzled whiny voice 07:27:13 <V453000> I think one reason is servers which run for a long time with huge maps and only a little amount of players at the same time 07:27:23 <V453000> so it is nicer to drag the game out for XXXX years 07:27:27 <andythenorth> ugh 07:27:30 <V453000> which I think is reasonable use actually 07:27:35 <andythenorth> that sounds like a waste of life 07:27:40 <andythenorth> whatâs wrong with pause? 07:28:03 <V453000> for example an international server with people from all aroudn the world, there is always at least 1 person online, but not many more 07:28:18 <kamnet_> I spent nearly four years playing the same game, and only getting 20 years in. 07:28:21 <V453000> so it never pauses and time runs fast for everybody cause they wake up and it is decades ahead 07:28:40 <V453000> when you play, normal speed is great 07:28:59 <V453000> when you are offline, it feels like most of the game has passed when you reconnect after ie 20 hours 07:30:31 <andythenorth> eh 07:30:31 <andythenorth> if they care enough 07:30:33 <andythenorth> they should make a newgrf 07:30:43 <andythenorth> and stop filling up the forums with multiple patches that donât work 07:30:51 <andythenorth> itâs a pretty easy newgrf 07:31:17 <andythenorth> or they just turn on âvehicles never expireâ 07:31:19 <andythenorth> as god intended 07:31:42 <andythenorth> daylength should be filed under âall these people are wrong' 07:38:17 <Supercheese> isn't there already a grf for the default vehicles or something? 07:38:27 <Supercheese> I recall delayed intro grf 07:38:52 <andythenorth> so the problem is solved? 07:38:56 <andythenorth> but still they keep asking? 07:39:00 * andythenorth is in a grumble 07:39:06 <andythenorth> bad andythenorth 07:40:26 <Alberth> I have a cement plant and a lime kiln next to each other in FIRS 1.4.4, is that intended? 07:40:31 <andythenorth> hmm 07:40:41 <andythenorth> does it seem good? 07:41:49 <Supercheese> well they both want coal and stone eh 07:41:50 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/convenient.png 07:42:15 <Alberth> yep, was about to look for some coal :) 07:42:29 <andythenorth> you wonât be able to deliver to both from one station :) 07:42:40 * andythenorth decides that placement is âintended' 07:42:48 <andythenorth> becauseâŠnot going to change it 07:42:50 <Alberth> hmm, good point :) 07:43:29 <andythenorth> you can muck about with last-hop feeders, but ugh 07:43:47 <Alberth> I'll build 2 stations, much easier 07:44:17 <andythenorth> maybe there is some complex conditional order you could use o_O 07:45:26 <Alberth> something like load full stone; unload if accepted; unload if accepted; done? 07:45:46 <Supercheese> no conditional orders for partial unloads 07:46:17 <Alberth> cdist wouldn't know what to do with it anyway :) 07:46:37 <andythenorth> industries like this can be a good case for âload any availableâ 07:46:46 <andythenorth> when there are coal mine, quarry etc near each other 07:47:10 <andythenorth> (including a station refit) 07:47:18 <andythenorth> best use Iâve found for that type station refit 07:49:09 <andythenorth> Alberth: I wonder if BB is 1.0.0? 07:49:10 <Alberth> sounds like a good case 07:49:17 <andythenorth> BB works for me in my recent game 07:49:21 <andythenorth> no changes 07:50:26 <Alberth> #7521 fix would be nice, as would #7496 07:50:33 <Alberth> but minor issues 07:51:18 <Alberth> I quite like how it turned out 07:52:09 <andythenorth> simple ftw 07:56:55 <andythenorth> think Iâll get a few more games out of it before I get bored 08:00:07 <supermop> you 08:00:11 <supermop> *yo 08:01:02 <Alberth> it makes a different game, there is much less incentive to make a huge transport network 08:01:42 <andythenorth> I find my network is more dispersed 08:01:46 <andythenorth> and less congested 08:02:03 <Alberth> many small lines :) 08:02:18 <andythenorth> itâs not so good with FIRS Basic economies 08:02:31 <andythenorth> or rather, the economies are not so good with BB 08:03:04 <Alberth> had that problem with default tropical as well 08:03:23 <andythenorth> tried it with Full FIRS? 08:03:27 <Alberth> not sure what is wrong then 08:03:36 <andythenorth> nothing 08:03:37 <Alberth> working on full FIRS :) 08:03:43 <andythenorth> it makes Full FIRS relaxing, instead of insane 08:04:01 <Alberth> but with NARS for the first time, huge running costs :p 08:04:51 * andythenorth hasnât played NARS for ages 08:04:54 <andythenorth> maybe I should 08:05:14 <Alberth> BB doesn't give you large money making goals 08:05:17 <Supercheese> Then you face the choice of old NARS and its BAD FEATURES or new NARS 08:05:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@95.232.38.183] has joined #openttd 08:05:51 <Wolf01> hi hi 08:05:55 <Alberth> I have version 2.5 08:05:58 <Alberth> hi hi Wolf01 08:06:15 <andythenorth> BAD FEATURES of course 08:07:09 <Supercheese> I'm actually using NARS 2.03 in my current game... because I went back and added in autorefit support 08:07:10 <Alberth> doodlebug seems buggy though 08:07:17 <Supercheese> *rimshot* 08:07:45 <Alberth> aren't the advertised running costs supposed to be the high running costs? 08:07:49 <Supercheese> so now I can have the NARS trains run around and carry freight on every leg of the journey 08:08:04 <Alberth> ah, nice 08:08:18 <Supercheese> I should probably post the override grf I made for that 08:08:20 <Alberth> don't do refit much 08:08:21 <supermop> do non-americans generally understand "rimshot soundeffect" as a joke punctuation? 08:08:29 <supermop> seems very idiomatic 08:08:32 <Supercheese> I hear tell that lots of folks still like NARS 2.03 08:08:44 <supermop> too many folks? 08:08:47 <Alberth> supermop: I don't 08:09:12 <supermop> hooray my conjecture is validated 08:09:21 <Supercheese> Hmm yeah, it hadn't occurred to me but I guess the "make a joke, drummer hits 2 snares and cymbal" trope may be exclusive to America 08:09:58 <andythenorth> supermop: ârimshotâ is definitely something else here 08:09:58 <supermop> i think it may come exclusively from old american late night shows rather than even american stand up or vaudeville comedy 08:10:02 <andythenorth> *definitely* 08:10:16 <Supercheese> also, apparently it is called a Sting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sting_%28percussion%29 08:10:20 <Supercheese> I never knew 08:10:34 <andythenorth> donât look up the UK English for rimshot 08:10:38 <supermop> where the talk show has a band to respond to the host's jokes 08:11:00 <supermop> portmanteau of rimjob and cumshot? 08:11:17 <supermop> efficient use of language if so 08:11:19 <andythenorth> family channel 08:11:19 <Supercheese> one can only presume 08:11:37 <Supercheese> "In British English, boom boom is commonly used." wait what 08:11:49 <andythenorth> basil brush 08:12:03 <andythenorth> that is safe to look 08:12:13 <supermop> do they use kick bass instead of snare? 08:12:27 <andythenorth> yes 08:12:32 <andythenorth> for gags 08:13:08 <Supercheese> huh 08:14:36 <supermop> patch game to remove time and date 08:16:37 <supermop> choose a decade at game start and never leave it 08:16:48 <andythenorth> eddi once made me a patch 08:16:54 <andythenorth> reset the year at year end 08:16:58 <andythenorth> once 08:17:03 <andythenorth> second time, it rolled over 08:17:06 <andythenorth> worked well 08:17:18 <andythenorth> except for odd vehicle availablility characteristics :D 08:17:20 <Supercheese> so yearlength rather than daylength? 08:17:27 <Supercheese> or well, multiyearlength 08:17:38 <Supercheese> or... I don't even know 08:17:55 <supermop> seems sensible 08:18:10 <supermop> in that case id just as soon never see the month though 08:18:35 <andythenorth> but then you wouldnât know why itâs snowing 08:18:41 <supermop> or display month as 'hour' 08:19:08 <supermop> and days as twos of minutes 08:19:24 <Supercheese> well TTD wouldn't even show you the day of the month unless the game was paused 08:19:35 <Supercheese> I'm not even sure OTTD has a setting for that 08:19:35 <supermop> really i want a way to timetable without any damn Februaries 08:20:45 <supermop> what about a sim city sort of thing whereby there is a fake time of day completely independent of displayed year or whatever 08:21:32 * andythenorth has to go 08:21:37 <Supercheese> we have a Nighttime OGFX, we could do day/night cycle 08:21:46 <andythenorth> if you could just finish FIRS recode by the time Iâm back, fanks 08:21:56 <Supercheese> fangs 08:22:03 <andythenorth> beebul 08:22:04 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 08:25:10 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 08:40:47 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:41:51 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:58:25 <Eddi|zuHause> <supermop> what about a sim city sort of thing whereby there is a fake time of day completely independent of displayed year or whatever <-- we've had this patch for like a decade now... 09:00:50 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 09:02:21 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:02:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 09:12:40 *** kamnet_ is now known as kamnet|AFK 09:26:44 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-188-142.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 09:27:21 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: is it still maintained? 09:31:28 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-180-60.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:43:40 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f740b42.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 09:46:37 *** Marty [~Marty@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 09:52:52 <Alberth> o/ 09:58:07 <frosch123> hoi 10:16:58 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:26:16 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d821309.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: yo.] 10:51:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc10-aztw26-2-0-cust867.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 10:55:01 <andythenorth> o/ 11:02:07 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:36:50 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@186.212.171.40] has joined #openttd 11:43:15 *** Pereba [~UserNick@177.158.49.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:43:20 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 11:49:43 *** Pereba_ [~UserNick@187.59.227.194] has joined #openttd 11:55:01 *** Pereba [~UserNick@186.212.171.40] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:55:03 *** Pereba_ is now known as Pereba 11:58:47 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:09:33 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-74-73-132-105.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 12:10:22 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 12:27:06 <andythenorth> sun cat 12:45:38 <Alberth> pretty much all cats like sun 12:48:49 *** Progman_ [~progman@p57A183AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 12:51:58 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1991D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:52:03 *** Progman_ is now known as Progman 13:01:06 <frosch123> likely depends on how close they get to it 13:07:21 *** Celestar [~Celestar@ip-109-43-2-134.web.vodafone.de] has joined #openttd 13:09:39 <supermop> inverse square law? 13:15:23 *** Celestar [~Celestar@ip-109-43-2-134.web.vodafone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:17:55 *** gelignite [~gelignite@i5387ACE2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 13:24:18 <supermop> i want a random lloyds bank building generator 13:24:36 <supermop> wonder if that can be done in newgrf 13:27:00 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has joined #openttd 13:30:14 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: i don't think any cat ever got much closer than 150 mio km 13:30:26 <andythenorth> galactic cat 13:31:16 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: +/- 1% :) 13:32:00 <Eddi|zuHause> let's say 10% to be safe :) 13:33:38 *** supermop [~supermop@d210-49-171-146.sun801.vic.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:39:03 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 13:44:26 *** Celestar [~Celestar@fire3.tngtech.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:38 *** Progman [~progman@p57A183AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:45:41 *** roidal_ [~roland@62-46-142-66.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 13:46:08 <andythenorth> hmm 13:46:20 <andythenorth> wondering if I should automate FIRS incompatible industry checks 13:46:36 <andythenorth> look for mappings of accepted / provided cargo 13:48:24 <andythenorth> currently maintained manually 13:48:29 <andythenorth> and somewhat inconsistent 13:50:21 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-139-227.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:56:30 *** wicope [~wicope@0001fd8a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:56:43 *** wicope_ [~wicope@76.Red-83-60-55.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #openttd 13:58:08 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:05:21 <andythenorth> is ânearby_clusterâ mostly a tautology? 14:05:24 * andythenorth wonders aloud 14:12:00 * andythenorth labels something âlist_of_arbitrary_numbers' 14:12:09 <andythenorth> dunno what they do :) 14:23:12 *** wicope_ [~wicope@76.Red-83-60-55.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:26:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6CE54.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:30:56 <andythenorth> 440 arable farms in 3 clusters 14:31:15 <andythenorth> how do I screenshot the minimap? :P 14:31:51 <V453000> just ctrl S like anything else doesnt work< 14:32:02 <V453000> other than normal printscreen into photoshop ofc :D 14:36:37 <andythenorth> I quite often want the whole minimap 14:36:48 <andythenorth> but I have a 13â laptop screen 14:36:58 <andythenorth> I guess I could put it into stupid retina resolution 14:39:13 <frosch123> in the past X servers used to supply a big virtual screen, and the real screen showed a part of it, with mouse-panning at the edges 14:39:21 <frosch123> i wonder though whether anyone ever used that 14:42:36 <andythenorth> VNC does similar 14:42:47 <andythenorth> hmm 14:42:53 <andythenorth> when the only industry is arable farm 14:42:56 <andythenorth> clustered 14:43:02 <andythenorth> the minimap looks neat 14:43:13 <andythenorth> two-thirds of the map is neatly spaced farms 14:43:17 <andythenorth> the rest is empty 14:43:52 <andythenorth> because itâs an island map, the clusters are restricted by island :P 14:45:43 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7278/solo_clusters.png 15:13:11 *** Celestar [~Celestar@p4FC5474B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 15:21:56 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 15:24:40 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 15:36:03 <andythenorth> hmm 15:36:06 <andythenorth> arable farms on snow 15:36:10 * andythenorth is not done yet 15:37:20 <Alberth> it makes frozen vegetables? 15:40:43 <andythenorth> apparently 15:41:42 <Sylf> I like frozen oranges. 15:49:54 <andythenorth> hmm 15:50:03 <andythenorth> whatâs the empty string I can return to text cbs? 15:50:08 <andythenorth> I thought I saved it 15:50:18 <andythenorth> maybe logs know 15:50:35 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 15:52:59 <andythenorth> ha ha, logs 15:53:05 <andythenorth> usually that takes longer 16:00:03 <andythenorth> hmm 16:00:05 <andythenorth> CB_RESULT_NO_TEXT is not defined 16:00:16 <andythenorth> silly andythenorth 16:00:30 <andythenorth> strings have to be strings 16:05:05 *** Celestar [~Celestar@p4FC5474B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 16:06:44 *** Celestar1 [~Celestar@p5DCD79FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:10:29 <Alberth> STR_EMPTY : 16:13:18 *** ohaz [~oftc-webi@ipb21ade39.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #openttd 16:14:00 <ohaz> Hey guys, how can I save my game on a dedicated server via rcon? using rcon <password> save <filename> just shows me "-Save the current game. Usage: 'save <filename>' 16:14:38 <Alberth> add quotes around the save <filename> part probably 16:14:49 <Alberth> at least that's a regular question/anser here :) 16:14:53 <Alberth> *answer 16:15:18 <ohaz> ah, that works, thanks :D 16:16:32 <Alberth> yw :) 16:17:20 <andythenorth> Alberth: howâs your game? o_O 16:20:26 <Alberth> http://devs.openttd.org/~alberth/ReepoolTransportBB, 1935-10-12.sav just 20 years running 16:22:06 *** ohaz [~oftc-webi@ipb21ade39.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 16:31:08 <andythenorth> one big route 16:33:02 <andythenorth> I like the island in the north 16:33:46 <Alberth> re-organized the steel factory recently 16:34:14 <andythenorth> doodlebugs :P 16:34:16 <andythenorth> are not good 16:34:39 <Alberth> they're quite bad :) 16:34:42 * andythenorth should play NARS 2 16:34:56 <Alberth> long stone route is a bit of an accident 16:35:07 <Alberth> I had large parts of the route already 16:35:47 <andythenorth> how many goals have you completed? 16:35:59 * andythenorth wonders about an optional global goal: âComplete n goalsâ 16:36:03 <Alberth> no idea, 10-15 or so? 16:36:11 <andythenorth> maybe global goal is terrible idea 16:36:15 <andythenorth> not really the point 16:36:31 <Alberth> as you can see I am losing about 2/3 of my income to running costs 16:37:04 <andythenorth> pikka makes you work ;) 16:37:34 <Alberth> yeah, it's quite neatly balanced imho 16:37:52 <Alberth> although I only use the very cheapest engines 16:37:54 <andythenorth> road hog is much more generous :P 16:38:00 <andythenorth> 220k income, 33k cost 16:38:14 <Alberth> all the more expensive ones are not economical with BB 16:38:57 <Alberth> bit of a waste 16:39:37 <Alberth> oh, it has an option "reduce vehicle costs" :) 16:40:26 <andythenorth> electrify! 16:40:54 <andythenorth> I find thereâs far too many big steam engines in 1920s 16:41:17 <andythenorth> there are 6 introduced within ~15 years 16:41:32 <andythenorth> and the stats overlap rather 16:41:44 <andythenorth> same with diesels in 1960s 16:41:47 <Alberth> if you sort on running costs, it doesn't help much 16:41:49 <andythenorth> but pikka knows all this :) 16:41:58 <andythenorth> hence pineapple 16:42:53 <andythenorth> hmm 16:42:57 <andythenorth> maybe we need daylength? 16:43:58 <Alberth> newgrf authors should refrain from giving the user too many engines, imho 16:44:19 <Alberth> but it's easy and tempting to add more engines 16:45:19 <andythenorth> having to draw them reduces the temptation :P 16:45:21 <Alberth> you could spread engines over the different climates for example 16:45:28 <andythenorth> or rosters :P 16:45:45 <Alberth> something like that 16:48:26 <Alberth> but likely, different users have different wishes here 17:11:11 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:11:14 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:21:03 *** Progman [~progman@p57A183AE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:25:22 *** kirjs_______ [sid25169@id-25169.brockwell.irccloud.com] has joined #openttd 17:25:45 <kirjs_______> Hi, I'm trying to find 'autorenew' option, but advanced settings are gone 17:25:52 <kirjs_______> any idea where it could be now? 17:26:01 *** k [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 17:26:42 <kirjs_______> nevermind, got it 17:28:27 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:30:58 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:31:04 <fjb> Moin 17:34:13 <Alberth> moin 17:45:41 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27239 /trunk/src/lang (latin.txt lithuanian.txt) (2015-04-18 19:45:30 +0200 ) 17:45:42 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:43 <DorpsGek> latin - 3 changes by Supercheese 17:45:44 <DorpsGek> lithuanian - 92 changes by Stabilitronas 17:53:06 *** Pensacola [~quassel@c80094.upc-c.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:53:27 *** DanMacK [~46189b5e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:53:32 <DanMacK> Hey all 17:57:15 <Taede> ello 18:03:11 *** lobster [~mccrabbym@94.231.249.233] has quit [Quit: IMMAH QUIT MA LAZ-] 18:27:56 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-178-81.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 18:31:16 *** k [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:13 *** Celestar1 [~Celestar@p5DCD79FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #openttd [] 18:43:13 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 18:45:55 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:08:38 *** luaduck_ [~luaduck@host109-149-140-137.range109-149.btcentralplus.com] has joined #openttd 19:09:35 *** luaduck [~luaduck@0001c465.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:09:35 *** luaduck_ is now known as luaduck 19:20:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~flex@i59F6A39F.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 19:20:06 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@i59F6CE54.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42:23 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 20:01:08 *** DanMacK [~46189b5e@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:26:23 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:42:12 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 20:42:49 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:42:52 <Wolf01> http://twentytwowords.com/what-happens-when-a-trains-brakes-are-on-but-one-engine-keeps-going%E2%80%A6/ 20:43:51 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:44:13 <Eddi|zuHause> you get dents in the rails. 20:44:47 <Eddi|zuHause> (i'm pretty sure we had this one before) 20:45:26 <Wolf01> sure, the post date is 2011 20:56:49 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:59:33 <andythenorth> hmm 2880 bags of mail on this ship 20:59:35 <andythenorth> how rare 20:59:40 <andythenorth> nvm 21:01:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it's like sectors on a floppy 21:01:58 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483b0c.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:02:35 <Eddi|zuHause> remember when games came on like 15 floppy disks? 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