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Log for #openttd on 30th April 2015:
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00:52:18  <Supercheese> Hmm an interesting proposal: "Crates of Goods" changed to "Pallets of Goods"
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01:00:00  <Garfield333> Hello
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01:05:22  <Eddi|zuHause> Supercheese: for certain definitions of "interesting"
01:05:55  <Supercheese> it wouldn't make much sense for the 19th century though before mass containerization
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01:09:57  <garfield333> anybody awake ?
01:12:48  <Supercheese> Ja
01:15:04  <garfield333> hi
01:15:36  <garfield333> I have difficulty finding specific newgrf, can you help ?
01:15:41  <Supercheese> Sure which is it?
01:16:00  <garfield333> name : indstatr.grf grdid: 4A430002 MD5SUM: D8FDBB30E75D117F156D00E4856EADB7
01:16:39  <garfield333> I tried all from bundles.openttdcoop.org/isr/ but non of them match
01:17:33  <garfield333> it is for this gamesave http://www.tt-forums.net/download/file.php?id=184661
01:21:57  <Supercheese> not on Bananas I take it
01:22:54  <Supercheese> try here http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/isr/
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01:29:15  <garfield333> ok I will try once more
01:33:09  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't suppose the gamelog shows the name/version of the grf?
01:33:46  <Eddi|zuHause> like "industrial station renewal v1.2.3"
01:35:44  <garfield333> no, I see this message http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2087c00&s=8
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01:36:47  <Eddi|zuHause> well, i don't see this image
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01:38:46  <garfield333> u mean you cannot open a link?
01:39:03  <Eddi|zuHause> i can open the link, but it doesn't show the image
01:39:51  <garfield333> or this http://tinypic.com/r/2087c00/8
01:40:01  <Eddi|zuHause> only a page that says i can add captions and which other images i might like, otherwise it's blank
01:40:10  <Supercheese> I suspect it is one of the versions available at the link earlier
01:40:12  <Eddi|zuHause> nope, same thing
01:40:20  <Supercheese> http://oi61.tinypic.com/2087c00.jpg
01:40:22  <Supercheese> try that
01:41:23  <Eddi|zuHause> that works
01:42:34  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway... anybody find it weird that gamelog doesn't show the action14 version?
01:42:56  <Eddi|zuHause> it must know this information to determine compatible/incompatible...
01:45:33  <Eddi|zuHause> garfield333: if you can't find the matching version, you can enable newgrf_developer_tools, open the game without the grf, overbuild any existing station with the default station, and remove the GRF from the list
01:46:07  <garfield333> ok
01:46:09  <Eddi|zuHause> warning: game might misbehave or crash during this process
01:46:22  <Eddi|zuHause> or later in the game, if you missed a station
01:54:38  <Sylf> garfield333, which thread on tt-forums is that gamesave?
01:54:52  <Sylf> from*
01:57:13  <Sylf> nevermind, google found it for me
01:57:42  <Sylf> also, have you tried the grf_.rar attached to http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=62386#p1090159
02:01:34  <garfield333> I have this grf_.rar extracted, but matching indstatr.grf is not there
02:02:13  <garfield333> I have send STD a message, maybe he can send me his copy of indstatr.grf
02:13:04  <garfield333> I give up. bye.
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10:16:58  <__ln__> end of discussion
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10:33:12  <kamnet> Teenagers. Gotta love em. *sighs*
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11:25:50  <supermop> got my shapeways parts
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15:38:01  <Terkhen> hello
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15:58:20  <Bolli> Hi
15:58:46  <Alberth> o/
15:59:12  <Bolli> Quick question: I'm building a script to manage openttd versions on my server, is there anywhere I can get a list of available versions to download in some sort of simple (easily computer readable) format?
16:00:54  <Alberth> you want to know about anything older than say 1.4 ?
16:01:01  <Bolli> Yeah
16:01:09  <Alberth> why?
16:01:44  <Bolli> I have plenty of savegames that are non-compatable with current versions
16:01:45  <Alberth> it's all backward compatible, why would you want 0.6 or so?
16:02:01  <Bolli> I was more thinking of nightlies
16:02:11  <Alberth> oh, right
16:05:34  <Bolli> The only idea I could come up with was parsing the HTML page on the mirrors HTML page
16:05:43  <Bolli> but it seems like a messy soloution
16:06:47  <Alberth> https://www.openttd.org/en/development   "obtaining the source code" speaks about finger.openttd.org
16:09:05  <Alberth> but I don't have a 'finger' command to try
16:09:48  <Alberth> although it should be something very simple like opening a network connection to the port
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16:15:54  <Alberth> but afaik there is no full list available
16:17:18  <Bolli> Thanks
16:17:53  <Alberth> the use of that list is also quite limited
16:18:34  <Alberth> nightlies are not useful longer than say a month
16:18:50  <Alberth> and stable releases longer than say a year or so
16:19:54  <Alberth> and even that is questionable, nightly saves can be loaded in newer nightlies, and release saves can be loaded in newer releases
16:20:19  <Alberth> (as well as nightlies)
16:21:18  <Alberth> while if you have patched versions, you need to keep things completely separate, in general
16:22:19  <Alberth> I wonder if a download manager does not exist, I seem to remember people mentioning such a program
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16:28:28  <Bolli> I know of at least 1
16:28:49  <Bolli> I can at least have the latest nightly as an install option
16:29:35  <Bolli> I can't find an out of the box download manager that runs as a command line program however
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16:30:34  <Alberth> sorry, no idea, I just download the source code updates from the repository, and build my own version
16:31:00  <Alberth> unless that counts as "command line program" :)
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17:45:27  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27262 trunk/src/lang/croatian.txt (2015-04-30 19:45:17 +0200 )
17:45:28  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
17:45:29  <DorpsGek> croatian - 97 changes by UnderwaterHesus
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18:14:55  <andythenorth> o/
18:15:43  <Alberth> moin
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18:21:45  <andythenorth> is cat?
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18:37:51  <andythenorth> neat train http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=529132&nseq=9
18:49:50  <Alberth> ha :)
18:50:16  <Alkel_U3> That reminds me of something I've been wondering about. Does anyone know if there's a railtype grf containing dual-gauge track?
18:50:27  <Alberth> something looks a bit out of alignment :)
18:51:42  <Alkel_U3> I was kinda getting to the point of making one myself but with my tempo of getting stuff done it might as well not be done before christmas, so I'll rather make sure I'm not reinventing the wheel.
18:54:16  <andythenorth> I was going to, but there are problems
18:54:18  <andythenorth> I forget what
18:54:23  <andythenorth> it was discussed here at least twice
18:54:26  <andythenorth> it won’t really work
18:55:11  <Alkel_U3> oh. Well, thans for the info.
18:55:19  <Alkel_U3> *thanks
19:03:50  <FLHerne> Alkel_U3: You can't have offsets for trains, so you'd need four rails
19:04:09  <andythenorth> eh, could ignore that probably
19:04:15  <andythenorth> maybe not in EZ :P
19:04:16  <FLHerne> Which would be a bit unusual, and at default zoom levels it would look a bit odd anyway?
19:04:45  <andythenorth> also, you can bodge the offsets
19:04:55  <andythenorth> it would be evil
19:04:57  <Alkel_U3> a pixel off wouldn't bother me as much as inability to share tracks
19:08:42  <andythenorth> iirc, the problem is vehicle-railtype compatibility
19:09:16  <andythenorth> vehicles compatible with mixed gauge would either be only mixed guage, or would be compatible with mixed, AND narrow and broad/standard
19:09:23  <andythenorth> can’t remember the details
19:09:27  <andythenorth> it was a bad idea anyway
19:10:12  <andythenorth> hurgh
19:10:14  <andythenorth> 56 / 66
19:14:12  <Alkel_U3> I was afraid it would be something like that. So you can't assign both normal and narrow gauge to one railtype, is that right?
19:14:49  <andythenorth> logs will know
19:14:54  <andythenorth> or Eddi|zuHause might remember
19:15:27  <Eddi|zuHause> there should be "equivalent railtypes" or something
19:15:58  <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't quite understand what you want
19:16:46  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, a stock "universal railtype" GRF is probably what you are looking for
19:18:47  <Alkel_U3> thanks, that is close, might work for me
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19:42:09  <andythenorth> 58/66 :P
19:49:21  <andythenorth> 59
19:49:30  <andythenorth> this running count must be enthralling
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19:52:50  <Wolf01> hi hi
19:53:52  <andythenorth> lo Wolf01
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20:01:08  <andythenorth> 61 / 66
20:01:12  <andythenorth> downhill from here?
20:01:20  <andythenorth> or the last ones never get done?
20:01:21  <andythenorth> :P
20:03:11  <Alberth> 2 in 20 minutes? only 50 minutes from finishing :)
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20:57:49  <andythenorth> alberth jinxed me
20:58:03  <Wolf01> http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Strip-Edge-650-finalenglsih.jpg I'm dying
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21:18:53  <Xaroth|Work> re: the kerbal space program discussion from earlier: http://i.imgur.com/oGuIWFU.gifv
21:18:58  <Xaroth|Work> that stuff makes it worth it :p
21:24:47  <Wolf01> nice
21:28:31  <Supercheese> that was amazing
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22:51:17  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:10:23  <kamnet> man, I literally slept all day.
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