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00:16:21 <Wolf01> 'night 00:16:24 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 00:52:09 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@134.84-48-176.nextgentel.com] has joined #openttd 01:01:50 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:16:43 *** Bluelight [~chatzilla@134.84-48-176.nextgentel.com] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 41.0.2/20151014143721]] 01:59:27 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 02:10:55 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 02:22:22 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d083d63.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:53:27 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 03:02:10 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5DC677E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 03:02:10 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC677E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08:42 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:14:16 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:11:32 <greeter> greetings everyone 05:20:32 <OsteHovel> Good morning 05:21:23 <greeter> how are you? 05:21:39 <OsteHovel> Great 05:21:45 <OsteHovel> I was first at work 05:21:48 <greeter> nice 05:22:20 <OsteHovel> That means i go home early too ;-) 05:22:28 <greeter> very nice 05:22:43 <greeter> either you have a very early start at work or you're quite a number of hours ahead of me 05:23:12 <OsteHovel> I started at work 06 in the morning (its now 06:22) 05:23:24 <ST2> sidenote: if someone searching for reddit's channel, it's #/r/openttd 05:23:26 <greeter> ah, so you're 5 hours ahead of me then 05:23:35 <ST2> not this one ^^ 05:25:58 <OsteHovel> Long time since i played openTTD 05:26:27 <OsteHovel> My cussin and I usualy play it togheter, more fun playing with others 05:26:30 <greeter> it's been a while for me. i've spent so much time trying to make this scenario that i haven't played it, plus irl stuff gets in the way 05:26:42 <OsteHovel> Ye its that damn IRL stuff.... 05:27:12 <greeter> and next week is really busy for me so that should prove interesting 05:30:46 <greeter> i did get some positive feedback about the description of the scenario i'm working on though, so i really want to get it done and post it to the forums to see what others think 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5DC677E2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5DC6789B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:10:54 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 06:10:58 <andythenorth> o/ 06:11:37 <greeter> greetings andythenorth 06:30:23 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:01:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 07:09:30 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 07:30:40 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:33:28 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:51:45 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:53:20 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 08:00:06 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:01:39 <greeter> welcome back andythenorth 08:20:04 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0259dc.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 08:21:13 <planetmaker> \o 08:25:01 <greeter> greetings planetmaker 08:36:18 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host105-62-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 08:36:40 <Wolf01> o/ 08:37:20 <greeter> greetings Wolf01 08:37:31 <greeter> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Point-Adam's_Cove-Blackhead-Broad_Cove something tells me this town has too long a name to fully enter into openttd 09:38:07 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 09:54:40 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:55 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 10:25:14 <Wolf01> http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/posting.html?id=15000XZ yeah, work for me... but it seem i don't have any of the requirements, maybe the "passion for games" one 10:26:22 <greeter> wish i qualified for the job too lol 10:28:18 <Wolf01> i wish to have warcraft 1 and 2 too... i have them, the dos version, also diablo 1 would be cool 10:28:50 <greeter> nice 10:31:13 <Wolf01> i remember when i found TTD and warcraft 1 at a game store (before gamestop), the clerk: "you know these don't work on windows?" "what's the problem? i can use dosbox" :D 10:32:01 <greeter> lol indeed 10:32:23 <greeter> i'd never even heard of ttd the first time i played openttd. i found it through a wikipedia article, skipped the history section, the game sounded fun so i got a copy 10:37:16 <Wolf01> i had a demo of TT somewhere, but i didn't play too much with it because i was really confused about signalling and how to set up trains and their schedule... then i found tt-forums via webring and started to learn how to play, i used ttdpatch for a long time and then ottd 10:37:32 * andythenorth wants to play WC 1 again 10:37:56 <andythenorth> is it actually good, or just hazy memories? 10:38:01 <andythenorth> âmy liege' 10:38:05 <andythenorth> âstop clicking on me' 10:38:15 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 10:38:23 <Wolf01> you can't use the right mouse button, you must remember this 10:39:06 * andythenorth has a mac, itâs easy to remember :P 10:39:09 <Wolf01> [M]-click, [A]-click, [H]-click... 10:39:09 <greeter> i found PBS confusing at first, but then after i spent enough time reading the manuals and comparing it with block signaling, i remember thinking "i can't believe block signaling was all that was available" 10:39:57 <Wolf01> i only use PBS now, maybe because i put 4-6 signals in the entire line XD 10:40:13 <Wolf01> just at the stations junctions 10:48:00 <greeter> i've never used block signals since i knew from the get go that pbs was better, i just took forever in finding out why and how to use it lol 10:48:22 <greeter> ever since i figured it out, i've built horribly complex and ugly rail networks that manage to get the job done 11:07:58 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 11:08:17 <V453000> greeter: all of the signals are useful in many circumstances 11:08:51 <V453000> block signals can do things that PBS cant, and vice versa as well 11:12:43 <Eddi|zuHause> but nobody really needs to do the things that block signals do. 11:13:59 <V453000> yeah nobody 11:14:11 <V453000> this game is dead. 11:14:35 <Wolf01> we need inserters stations 11:14:47 <Wolf01> like factorio ones 11:15:05 <Wolf01> pick up from the industry and put on the train 11:15:29 <Wolf01> oh wait.. it already does that, with less animation 11:15:51 <andythenorth> V453000: we should have a funeral 11:16:06 <V453000> it is excellent to see a developer disagree that the game has variety Eddi. I already accepted the retarded "popular opinion" that PBS is more convenient to use (because people do not want to know the game properly and do not want to build big networks, that is fine) ... but saying that block signals are not useful in any way is just plain bullshit 11:16:51 <V453000> starting from pathfinding on bigger networks, a lot better control over block signals, or ending with any kind of useful pre-signal things 11:17:03 <V453000> your ignorance shines like a beacon. 11:18:25 <andythenorth> he said âneedsâ :P 11:18:49 <V453000> if your trains are failing to pick the right path to go at choice points, you need to build block signals. 11:19:07 <V453000> but sure you CAN build a point-to-point network, avoiding any junctions 11:19:10 <V453000> sure yeah :) 11:19:36 <andythenorth> point-to-point is the way forward 11:19:40 <andythenorth> much better to play 11:19:58 <Wolf01> somebody said bacon? 11:20:05 <V453000> beacon? 11:20:09 <Wolf01> bacon 11:20:14 <V453000> becon 11:20:33 <andythenorth> V453000: can you render the OpenTTD logo on a gravestone? o_O 11:20:48 <V453000> can != will ? 11:21:03 <andythenorth> V453000: will you render the OpenTTD logo on a gravestone? o_O 11:21:34 <V453000> Dear Andy from up there, The answer you seek is no. Thank you for understanding, your beloved V 11:21:42 *** MeSaber [~MeSaber@h-4-210.a166.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 11:21:53 <andythenorth> bah 11:21:57 <andythenorth> it would have looked good 11:22:51 <andythenorth> seems unreasonable :P 11:22:59 <V453000> it will bury itself, no need to bother 11:23:10 <Eddi|zuHause> V453000: i'm not actually a developer. 11:23:22 <V453000> does it actually matter Eddi|zuHause ? 11:23:29 <V453000> people probably listen to your shit 11:23:47 <Eddi|zuHause> also, yes. the sentence intentionally contained traces of bullshit :p 11:23:56 <Eddi|zuHause> it's called "trolling" :) 11:24:03 * andythenorth jarlsberg on toast 11:24:21 <V453000> guess we need a new saying instead of beating a dead horse "trolling a dead horse" 11:25:19 <Wolf01> somebody said toasted bacon? 11:26:25 <V453000> toasted biter 11:26:49 <Eddi|zuHause> tastes like chicken? 11:26:51 <andythenorth> trolling a dead biter 11:27:14 * andythenorth considers changing FIRS 2 11:27:18 <andythenorth> no industries 11:27:19 <andythenorth> no cargos 11:27:28 <Wolf01> now i have to get the car and go to the pub to eat a burger with bacon 11:27:33 <Eddi|zuHause> man, as soon as i said "chicken", the cat comes demanding food 11:27:38 <andythenorth> just a message at the beginning: âOpenTTD is now dead, go away" 11:28:13 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: you can't change anything on the title screen 11:28:31 <Eddi|zuHause> only a base set can do that 11:29:21 <Wolf01> nobody stops you to change the game code and put a news ticker with silly sentences on the splash screen 11:29:24 <andythenorth> I can show an error / warning message at game start though 11:29:37 <andythenorth> I could include one cargo and two industries 11:29:40 <andythenorth> âdead openttdâ cargo 11:29:47 <andythenorth> âburial groundsâ destination 11:29:54 <andythenorth> NFI what the source industry is though 11:30:49 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: sounds like a new economy :p 11:31:18 <Eddi|zuHause> toyland replacement: Halloween 11:31:48 <andythenorth> what makes an OpenTTD cargo? 11:31:53 *** fjb [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:31:59 <fjb> Moin 11:32:19 <__ln__> 'qapla fjb 11:33:32 *** MeSaber [~MeSaber@h-4-210.a166.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:34:32 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:36:59 <Wolf01> i would remove all the climates except toyland 11:37:42 <Wolf01> https://www.flickr.com/photos/pierre_import/22760048862/in/dateposted/ :Q___ 11:38:43 <argoneus> why not remove all climates 11:38:45 <argoneus> and be done with it 11:38:54 <argoneus> make it a space game instead 11:39:16 *** MeSaber [~MeSaber@h-4-210.a166.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #openttd 11:39:24 <andythenorth> just remove the game 11:40:00 <argoneus> and install what 11:40:03 <Wolf01> argoneus, galaxy express 999? 11:43:53 <Eddi|zuHause> hm... what was that guy called? SirXavius? with the OpenTTD+500 project? 11:45:14 <andythenorth> yes 11:53:44 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:14:25 <MeSaber> hot discussions in here 12:14:31 <MeSaber> just as my internet broke 12:31:23 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:59 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:44:03 <Wolf01> oh, IIRC today shit happened 12:50:30 <MeSaber> shit? 12:52:54 <Wolf01> it's the 5th of november, somewhere they are igniting fireworks 12:53:16 <Mazur> Burns day? 12:53:42 <Mazur> Oh, no, failed revolution day. 12:54:52 <Wolf01> yes, also i think i'll have to watch V, but i didn't even watch BttF on 21 october 12:55:20 <Mazur> Dismember, dismember, the 5th of Movember, something about Guy .... 12:55:23 <Mazur> Ritchie? 12:55:47 <Wolf01> yes, that one, indeed 12:56:34 <Mazur> BttF? 12:56:41 <Wolf01> back to the future 12:56:56 <Mazur> Ah, yes. Did neither. 12:57:07 <MeSaber> i were thinking of doing it 12:57:08 <MeSaber> but didnt 12:57:19 <Mazur> 2 stations were broadcasting 1 & 2, and only one of them 3, as well. 12:57:24 <Mazur> 3 is the best one. 12:57:58 <Wolf01> i was too lazy to plug in my external dvd drive 12:58:19 <MeSaber> ever heard of teh internetz? 12:58:22 <MeSaber> :) 12:59:07 <Wolf01> i could "backup" it, but if i have something on disk i try to save hdd space 12:59:19 <Wolf01> i only have 10TB in total :P 12:59:32 <MeSaber> 10 tb of what? 12:59:39 <Wolf01> hdd space 12:59:50 <MeSaber> yes i got that part.. but what 13:00:07 <MeSaber> 10 tb of movies? 13:00:10 <MeSaber> pictures? 13:00:12 <Wolf01> 2TB just for steam games, other 2TB of backup 13:00:35 <Wolf01> some external hdds just for practical purposes 13:00:40 <MeSaber> 2 tb of steam games.. nice 13:00:47 <Mazur> 10 TB of pr0n, of course. 13:00:59 <Wolf01> and some movies/anime/series too 13:01:11 <Mazur> Well, 9, and 1 for "other". 13:01:13 <Wolf01> no, i don't need pr0n, there's interet for that 13:01:18 <MeSaber> i dont got much on my lappy 13:01:32 <__ln__> Wolf01: you need to have a backup of internet in case it goes down, obviously 13:01:33 <Wolf01> interet <- 13:01:41 <MeSaber> media folder is 470 gb 13:02:10 <Wolf01> __ln__ i would make a backup of myself in case of... 13:02:30 <Wolf01> but it seem i don't have enough space 13:02:37 <MeSaber> i dont do backups of one reason 13:02:40 <MeSaber> fresh starts :D 13:02:53 <MeSaber> nothing nicer than a clean pc 13:03:03 <MeSaber> and no crap stuff everywhere :D 13:03:05 <MeSaber> its like dust 13:03:19 <MeSaber> self made dust 13:08:31 <Wolf01> i have a bit of documents and family photos 13:11:38 <Eddi|zuHause> i have several TB worth of unwatched and uncut tv recordings 13:12:23 <Eddi|zuHause> which i should probably just delete and reover "backups" from the internet, like normal people :p 13:12:29 <Eddi|zuHause> *recover 13:22:25 <Wolf01> back to work now... i have to make a MoveToContact() function 13:22:43 <Wolf01> but first it would be cool to know the direction of the contact point 13:24:13 <MeSaber> work is for the poor 13:24:17 <MeSaber> you see what i did there? 13:24:18 <MeSaber> :D 13:33:04 <Eddi|zuHause> no, i don't 13:33:41 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:34:33 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 13:55:45 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 14:09:55 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:27:00 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 14:38:09 <Flygon> I dunno how people can get over 1TB of porn 14:38:21 <Flygon> Then again, I suppose people download videos rather than stills 14:40:11 <Eddi|zuHause> ultra-HD combined with a hoarder instinct... 14:40:24 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not that unimaginable 14:40:49 <__ln__> Flygon: by downloading, i guess. 14:41:11 <Flygon> There's additional context that I'd like to provide but probably shouldn't :U 14:41:15 <Hiddenfunstuff> Quantity over quality 14:41:18 <Flygon> 4K porn... 14:41:24 * Flygon scratches head 14:41:28 <Hiddenfunstuff> inb4 VR porn 14:41:33 <Flygon> Already been done 14:41:42 <Flygon> I expected the furries to get to it first 14:41:45 <Flygon> But it was actually the Japanese 14:41:48 <Eddi|zuHause> rule 42? 14:41:58 <Eddi|zuHause> no, that's not the one 14:42:03 <Flygon> Rule 42 is that the meaning of life is 42 14:42:04 <Hiddenfunstuff> rule34 and 35 14:42:05 <Eddi|zuHause> rule 32 14:42:08 <Flygon> You're thinking of- 14:42:10 <Eddi|zuHause> ah 14:42:14 <Flygon> Eddi 14:42:18 <Flygon> I should feel bad for laughing 14:42:19 <Flygon> And I do 14:42:20 <Flygon> But 14:42:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i always get that wrong 14:42:23 <Flygon> Yeah 14:42:25 <Flygon> Sorry! 14:42:35 <Flygon> I am curious what Rule 32 IS 14:42:47 <Hiddenfunstuff> check internet.. theres lists 14:42:51 <Flygon> I'd ask the same guy that knows what Sage is 14:43:02 <Flygon> But he'd say that the list got muddled with the depths of time 14:43:02 <Hiddenfunstuff> most trustworthy might be tvtropes.. Though just dont click the links around the wiki 14:43:03 <Flygon> :U 14:43:21 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:43:27 <Flygon> TVTropes Rule 34 article... 14:43:36 <Flygon> Reminds me of every time Cracked makes an article on Rule 34 14:43:37 <Flygon> And I think 14:43:43 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think i'll look that up :p 14:43:50 <Flygon> "This guy didn't look very hard" 14:44:04 <Hiddenfunstuff> Tvtropes will ruin your life 14:44:26 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:44:26 <Flygon> TVTropes didn't ruin my life 14:44:28 <Flygon> Rule 34 did :U 14:44:34 *** fonsinchen [~fonsinche@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:44:43 <Hiddenfunstuff> Obviously you have not been to tvtropes 14:44:51 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:45:17 <Flygon> I have 14:45:20 <Flygon> I never escaped 14:45:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose "tvtropes will ruin your life" is a trope :p 14:45:23 <Flygon> Been there since 2009 14:45:27 <Hiddenfunstuff> yes it is a trope 14:45:29 <Flygon> I REMEMBER TROPERS TALES 14:45:33 <Flygon> YES IT BUGS ME 14:45:34 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 14:45:55 <Hiddenfunstuff> most likely when you read that trope.. you are already beyond saving 14:46:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't even know what "trope" even means 14:46:33 *** orudge` [~orudge@owenrudge.net] has joined #openttd 14:46:36 <Flygon> I always assumed trope was a made up word 14:46:42 <Flygon> Also apperantly I pronounce it weird 14:46:48 <Flygon> "Tr-oe-p" 14:46:50 <Flygon> oe as in rope 14:46:56 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:46:57 *** xQR [xor@the.x-base.org] has joined #openttd 14:47:06 <Hiddenfunstuff> ys 14:47:15 *** orudge [~orudge@000128f1.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:47:26 <Eddi|zuHause> that's how i would pronounce it from only ever reading the word 14:47:44 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@000128e4.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:47:48 <Flygon> Again, I'd say "Why can't English be phonetic?" 14:47:53 *** Born_Acorn [~bornacorn@yoda.zernebok.com] has joined #openttd 14:47:54 <Eddi|zuHause> but i wouldn't write it as "oe", as that means something completely different than you think :p 14:47:55 <Hiddenfunstuff> wait.. you read 'rope' as roep? 14:47:58 <Flygon> But each language variant would write it down differently 14:48:04 <Flygon> Hiddenstuff: Yeah 14:48:04 *** XeryusTC [~XeryusTC@000128e4.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:48:05 <Hiddenfunstuff> or well.. say it as 14:48:08 <Hiddenfunstuff> What is wrong with you 14:48:15 <Flygon> I'm Australian? 14:48:18 <Hiddenfunstuff> acctually.. Damnit 14:48:25 <Hiddenfunstuff> I am doing it aswell 14:48:30 <Flygon> lol 14:48:39 <Hiddenfunstuff> or sometimes with u rather than e 14:48:49 <Flygon> Roup? 14:48:52 <Hiddenfunstuff> yep 14:48:54 <Flygon> Sounds like a name 14:49:01 <Hiddenfunstuff> more like soup 14:49:12 <Flygon> Like 14:49:14 <Flygon> Rupert 14:49:27 <Flygon> 'Rou-p...t' 14:49:28 <Flygon> Uhm 14:49:29 <Hiddenfunstuff> Still strange name 14:49:32 <Flygon> I can't write the second vowel in 14:49:44 <Flygon> There's no vowel-only combination for it in English :| 14:49:52 <Flygon> Despite it only being voels 14:49:54 <Flygon> vowels* 14:50:05 <Flygon> And the only umlauts I know are Finnish 14:50:12 <Hiddenfunstuff> :D 14:50:15 <Flygon> Which'd confuse the crap out of the Germans here 14:50:28 <Flygon> Because they'd wonder why I'd use the uber symbol 14:50:30 <Flygon> And even worse 14:50:30 <Hiddenfunstuff> Wouldnt think germans would be so confused 14:50:37 <Flygon> Since my Finnish reading is very rusty 14:50:42 <Hiddenfunstuff> becuase as far as i know they also use à and à 14:50:45 <Flygon> I'd probably be using the wrong u sound anyway 14:50:59 <Hiddenfunstuff> its just U 14:51:01 <Hiddenfunstuff> nothing else 14:51:02 <Flygon> Either way 14:51:05 <Eddi|zuHause> all the vowels in finnish are "À" 14:51:13 <Hiddenfunstuff> no 14:51:16 <Flygon> There's no ENGLISH way of writing the sound I want to represent 14:51:25 <Flygon> Despite it being an actual freakin' sound in English language 14:51:28 <Eddi|zuHause> Flygon: that's what IPA is for 14:51:33 <Flygon> No wonder we have zero vowel standardization 14:51:41 <Hiddenfunstuff> Actually rofl... I cant remember the vowels 14:51:43 <Flygon> We may's well use hyroglypths and throw out the vowels 14:51:47 <Flygon> Eddi: Aye 14:51:56 <Flygon> But I meant using English Alphabet, not IPA xP 14:52:10 <Hiddenfunstuff> neither do i remember the order of alphabets in the end 14:52:17 <Flygon> English does need a more phonetic method of being written, but it's impossible without creating new alphabets 14:52:23 <Eddi|zuHause> ever wonder how "w" became a consonant, when "u" is a vowel and "w" is "double-u"? 14:52:29 <Flygon> And some vowel sounds are impossible to represent with digraphs or trigraphs 14:52:46 <Flygon> Well, w is kind of half-way between a consonant and vowel tbh 14:52:54 <Flygon> It can be used as a sort-of vowel 14:52:59 <Hiddenfunstuff> what is the difference of consonant and vowel 14:53:03 <Eddi|zuHause> (and then the english screwed it up by even making "u" a consonant, sometimes) 14:53:33 <Flygon> Hell, the Aboriginal language from Alice Springs are basically used w as one of their vowels. If you counted vowels strictly, they'd have just TWO. w is basically the third 14:53:41 <Flygon> This makes the language incredibly painful to read. 14:54:10 <Flygon> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Arrernte_language 14:54:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Hiddenfunstuff: i think the "naive" definition is: a vowel is a sound by itself, and a consonant is only a sound in combination with a vowel 14:54:44 <Flygon> (and even worse, the two vowels that ARE there are pretty close counting) 14:54:47 <Hiddenfunstuff> That made no sense in my head.. Dont bother trying to teach me.. I'm not very good at recieving information 14:55:04 <Flygon> A consonant can be a sound independant 14:55:13 <Flygon> It just sounds incredibly stupid in English 14:55:44 <Flygon> And even then, there's some pretty long words in English that're vowelless 14:55:59 <Flygon> Like crwth (kr-wth) 14:56:11 <Flygon> Granted, that th is a digraph... but, you get my point 14:56:16 <Flygon> Four sounds, no vowels :B 14:56:21 <Eddi|zuHause> Hiddenfunstuff: if you try to describe the sound of a letter, a vowel is the same in both forms, like "a is spoken as a", whereas a consonant becomes more letters "j is spoken as jay" 14:56:41 <Hiddenfunstuff> Aaah yes 14:57:20 <Eddi|zuHause> which is a hugely simplified (and thus wrong) definition... 15:03:09 <Flygon> Eddi: As a kid, I kept wondering why everyone kept misspelling things with js in them 15:03:13 <Flygon> And I learned in my 20s 15:03:21 <Flygon> That the js were used to represent y sounds 15:03:38 <Flygon> It didn't help that Fjords in Australia tend to be called... er 15:03:39 <Flygon> Fords 15:03:44 <Flygon> We DROPPED THE SOUND 15:04:33 <Eddi|zuHause> Fords and Fjords are very different things, though 15:05:30 <Eddi|zuHause> Ford (or german Furt) is a shallow place in a river where you can cross (hence place names like Frankfurt), and Fjords are the coastal valleys in norway... 15:05:47 <Eddi|zuHause> which are not shallow at all :p 15:06:07 <Hiddenfunstuff> Seriously 15:06:20 <Hiddenfunstuff> Out of everything you could call Fjord.. you called them FORDS 15:08:18 <andythenorth> eh? 15:08:25 <Hiddenfunstuff> Ford.. 15:08:29 <Hiddenfunstuff> Hnngh 15:08:34 <andythenorth> is a thing you cross a river with, or a car 15:08:40 <Hiddenfunstuff> the car.. 15:08:45 * andythenorth missed 140 lines of this 15:08:48 <andythenorth> did I miss much? 15:08:52 <Hiddenfunstuff> not relaly 15:09:07 <Eddi|zuHause> lots of topic jumping :p 15:09:09 <Hiddenfunstuff> it felt like school's language lesson all over again 15:09:36 <Eddi|zuHause> i think the topic was porn, but i'm not sure :p 15:09:44 <Hiddenfunstuff> Oh yes 15:10:00 <Hiddenfunstuff> somehow it went from porn to 4K porn.. VR porn.. furries and ?? Somehow ended up in alphabets 15:10:19 <Eddi|zuHause> alphabet porn 15:10:20 <andythenorth> right 15:10:26 <andythenorth> I wonât scrollback 15:15:24 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.98.84] has joined #openttd 15:16:24 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 15:27:19 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 15:30:05 <Flygon> Combine them together 15:30:13 <Flygon> And you get furry 4K VR alphabet porn 15:30:45 <andythenorth> that is a mental image I canât unsee 15:34:55 <peter1138> I can't even imagine it, fortunately. 15:35:20 <Eddi|zuHause> it 15:35:28 <Eddi|zuHause> 's also beyond my realm of imagination 15:35:31 <Wolf01> like i can't imagine how to draw a timer bar of 300px in 64px 15:36:24 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #openttd 15:38:46 <Wolf01> also the 300px are dynamic and i don't know the initial size 15:39:17 <Eddi|zuHause> so count in % and scale it to the actual size? 15:39:31 <Wolf01> yes 15:39:46 <Eddi|zuHause> how that is a hard problem is also beyond my realm of imagination 15:40:15 <Wolf01> if i knew the initial size it was easier :) 15:42:00 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:42:03 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 15:48:28 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:56:24 *** lukasz [~quassel@auu172.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:15:56 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 16:28:46 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f7476a0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 16:41:16 <andythenorth> quak 16:47:49 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 16:51:50 *** Cybert1nus [~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl] has joined #openttd 16:53:49 *** cizra_ [~root@23.97.169.1] has joined #openttd 16:54:41 *** Netsplit magnet.oftc.net <-> liquid.oftc.net quits: andythenorth, cizra, Cybertinus, SmatZ, fonsinchen 16:57:40 *** Netsplit over, joins: fonsinchen 16:57:43 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0259dc.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:58:01 *** Netsplit over, joins: andythenorth 16:58:01 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:01:34 *** SmatZ [~smatz@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 17:02:18 *** TheMask96 [martijn@gluttony.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:02:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~flex@89.246.160.7] has joined #openttd 17:13:50 <frosch123> hola 17:25:43 <argoneus> hola hola 17:40:26 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 17:42:08 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:42:11 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:45:17 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27436 trunk/src/lang/spanish.txt (2015-11-05 18:45:08 +0100 ) 17:45:18 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 17:45:19 <DorpsGek> spanish - 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