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03:37:15 <Sylf> the closest industry from the station's label 03:37:51 <aditsu> cool, thanks 03:38:09 <Sylf> I think the "closest" is measured by the manhattan distance between the top corner of the industry and the station label 03:39:29 <aditsu> I'm trying to "move" an industry :p I know, it will take a while 03:40:35 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 03:40:43 <aditsu> yes! the new one is receiving the cargo 03:47:38 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 03:57:30 *** aditsu [~chatzilla@cm222-166-88-188.hkcable.com.hk] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 38.4.0/20151027170520]] 03:59:44 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:06:34 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:24:24 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 05:27:32 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:27:34 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 05:51:31 *** JezK_ [~jez@ip-34-152-161-203.static.pipenetworks.com] has quit [Quit: :q!] 05:56:02 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC6671D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:17 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC667EA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 06:35:18 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 07:30:20 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 07:30:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 08:21:39 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 08:57:34 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 09:06:51 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 09:12:18 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@217.123.140.212] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:15:21 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 09:22:42 <andythenorth> tyre plant? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7539/tyre_plant_1.png 09:23:18 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:45:17 <planetmaker> moin 09:45:25 <planetmaker> andythenorth, it looks a bit non-descript 09:45:27 <andythenorth> yeah 09:45:34 <Alberth> moin 09:45:40 <planetmaker> Possibly less realistic, but nicer to see: at least stacks of tyres 09:45:41 <andythenorth> blah + silos 09:45:59 <andythenorth> some tyre plants have a test track attached 09:46:02 <andythenorth> but Iâm not drawing that :P 09:46:08 <planetmaker> :) 09:46:20 <V453000> honestly I am not even realizing that it is a new factory 09:46:24 <V453000> looks like stockyard mk2 09:46:30 <planetmaker> :) somewhat 09:46:56 <Alberth> FYI: I pushed some changes in BB route selection 09:47:03 <planetmaker> however that is indeed what a tyre factory could look like 09:47:22 <Alberth> RL has such boring industries :p 09:52:38 <V453000> andythenorth: big tire and random text as logo would help a ton 09:53:18 <planetmaker> https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipO0RsjHp1PLxrQT7j0yu3FT0gZ0ZU7kCzaWOMDm/photo/AF1QipMCeMy8vcqT9rTJ16uQQ1AVBPCFI6Ai6pI84IHD <-- a bit run-down but looks pretty similar. And it was Germany's biggest tyre factory when it was still producing 09:53:29 <andythenorth> 404 :( 09:53:55 <planetmaker> ah... yes, sorry: https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipO0RsjHp1PLxrQT7j0yu3FT0gZ0ZU7kCzaWOMDm/photo/AF1QipMCeMy8vcqT9rTJ16uQQ1AVBPCFI6Ai6pI84IHD 09:54:08 <planetmaker> is it even a different link? 09:54:21 <V453000> probably not :D 09:54:22 <andythenorth> nah :) 09:54:37 <planetmaker> https://goo.gl/photos/oforrPJAk5j27z3P8 09:54:49 <planetmaker> mix-up of different pastes :D 09:56:07 <andythenorth> got any more photos? o_O 09:56:27 <andythenorth> âgeneric factoryâ is probably inevitable for some of these industries 09:56:28 <andythenorth> :P 09:56:34 <andythenorth> vehicle factory will have same problem 09:56:42 <planetmaker> No more photos not of the entire complex at the moment, only details inside 09:57:40 <V453000> IMO andy, the goal of graphics is to make factories distinguishable and identifiable, even if they seem generic 09:57:55 <V453000> otherwise you could just use same re-randomized sprites for same gain 09:57:58 <planetmaker> https://goo.gl/photos/stYB9GtNRytUUWJU6 is the whole album of that foto session 09:58:36 <planetmaker> though the last 5 photos are from another place 09:59:03 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 10:00:54 <andythenorth> V453000: you think copy-paste from other industries doesnât make distinguishable graphics? :( 10:01:44 <V453000> well if you copypaste smaller bits, yes 10:02:12 <V453000> there is of course a very subjective line of consistency X variety, but a lot of the industries seem the same to me 10:02:22 <V453000> the new ones mainly 10:02:41 <V453000> note, new ones is ~2 years old :P 10:03:04 <andythenorth> ha ha 10:03:06 <andythenorth> yes 10:04:10 <andythenorth> the only interesting new one is http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#nitrate_mine 10:04:57 <V453000> that one is nice but fuck the cargo 10:05:03 <V453000> nitrates = wtf 10:05:25 <V453000> y u no make it an iron ore mine or something instead of making up new wtf XD 10:06:37 <andythenorth> unrealistic 10:07:19 <V453000> bad excuse :P 10:08:44 <andythenorth> why would I make it an iron ore mine? 10:08:54 <andythenorth> moar cargos 10:10:23 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:11:14 <V453000> idk, make a complete set? :P 10:11:41 <andythenorth> boring 10:14:27 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.183.59] has joined #openttd 10:16:59 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:17:02 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 10:18:51 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:08 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:25:24 <Alberth> ha, nitrate mine is looking good 10:26:21 <V453000> /me is waiting for pyrite 10:26:51 <andythenorth> pyrite mine is boring 10:26:56 <andythenorth> smelter should be good though 10:27:45 <andythenorth> something like http://www.outotec.com/PageFiles/12183/roasting_500x700.jpg 10:33:05 <V453000> yay lots of pipes and details 10:34:36 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7540/tyre_plant_2.png 10:34:50 <andythenorth> that generic boiler house has to go (chimney building) 10:35:01 <andythenorth> used in too many places 10:36:02 <V453000> you just converted 2 colours? :D 10:36:15 <andythenorth> painted some CC 10:36:38 <andythenorth> the boilerhouse needs reworked, but I leave the chimney in same place, canât be bothered to move the smoke :P 10:36:45 <andythenorth> the silos are bugging me 10:36:52 <andythenorth> FIRS is mostly silos :P 10:37:17 <V453000> damn I am looking forward to the weekend so I could work on my grf 10:37:20 * andythenorth does not want to draw tyres 10:39:31 <V453000> I am currently really thinking how will I solve the bullshit of 141% side view for vehicles 10:39:38 <V453000> what pikka does is nowhere near nice or proper 10:39:44 <V453000> stretching is bullshit 10:39:50 <V453000> only option looks like making 2 versions of model 10:40:00 <V453000> one for diagonals and one for straight tracks 10:45:53 <andythenorth> I have stopped drawing vehicles because of this crap 10:46:12 <andythenorth> there is no point drawing when whatever you do is wrong 10:46:22 <andythenorth> Squid is fucked for this 10:46:33 <V453000> well drawing them is not a problem at all 10:46:46 <V453000> you have to draw each view individually regardless 10:46:51 <V453000> being nice is the only "right" 10:46:54 <andythenorth> yeah, but to what length? 10:46:57 <andythenorth> itâs all bollocks 10:47:06 <V453000> to make it fit the game 10:47:09 <V453000> length is just a number 10:47:25 <V453000> when I was drawing pixels I had no issue with this what so ever 10:47:39 <V453000> rendering is where shit hits the fan 10:48:01 <andythenorth> most Squid ships were drawn over rendered output⊠10:48:04 <andythenorth> hence problem 10:48:10 <andythenorth> look like crap in / \ views 10:48:16 <V453000> just bad approach to drawing it 10:48:49 <V453000> also, stretcing your rendered output is no problem if you manually draw over it anyway/ polish it 10:49:06 <V453000> factorio has the same issue for vertical entities btw :P 10:49:33 <V453000> there it is solved by different models 10:49:55 <Alberth> lol 10:50:15 <andythenorth> currently I solved it 10:50:19 <andythenorth> draw FIRS instead 10:50:34 <andythenorth> end up with massive over-produced industry set 10:50:38 <andythenorth> and still no decent ships :P 10:51:02 <andythenorth> changed the boilerhouse thing, needs a different colour chimney? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7541/tyre_plant_3.png 10:51:19 <V453000> XD 10:51:40 <andythenorth> TooManySilos 10:51:43 <andythenorth> I should fix the layouts 10:51:45 <V453000> yeah the chimneys are kind of not fitting 10:51:50 <andythenorth> this layout is copy-paste from another industry 10:51:57 * andythenorth is being lazy 10:52:00 <V453000> silos are fine as a background detail 10:52:03 <V453000> but you need something at the front 10:52:13 <V453000> and no, 8px of random boxes isnt what I mean :P 10:52:22 <andythenorth> buildings and such? 10:52:30 <V453000> some shit 10:52:32 <andythenorth> how about a crane? o_O 10:52:33 <V453000> inputs, products 10:52:37 <andythenorth> not many of cranes in FIRS :P 10:53:04 <V453000> ha, cranes would be great but probably for something more large-scale factory 10:53:09 <V453000> tires sounds small 10:53:10 <V453000> but meh 10:53:14 <V453000> gtg lu chorz 10:53:15 <andythenorth> ~every FIRS industry has a crane 10:53:17 <andythenorth> boring cranes 10:53:17 <V453000> lunchorz 10:53:30 <V453000> cranes are a great industrial detail 11:41:46 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 11:57:14 <andythenorth> tyre factory http://archnet.org/system/media_contents/contents/11449/original/IAA2287.jpg?1384692182 11:57:28 <andythenorth> ho, this one looks ready-made http://galeon.com/simutrans/pak96/Tires.PNG 11:57:47 <V453000> xd 11:58:03 <V453000> you cant take realistic photographs of factories and transform them 1:1 11:58:20 <andythenorth> that simutrans one will do, no? 11:58:25 <andythenorth> I just copy that :P 11:59:56 <V453000> yes that is better by having the actual tires 12:00:08 <V453000> pipes for the rubber help a ton too 12:01:00 <andythenorth> moar pipes 12:01:11 <andythenorth> V453000: you just think I should greeble it more? 12:01:14 <andythenorth> or what? 12:01:25 <V453000> greeble? 12:01:46 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeble 12:02:11 <V453000> wat 12:02:22 <V453000> no just add elements which actually make it feel like there is rubber turned into tires 12:02:51 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 12:04:22 <andythenorth> tyres ship in racks http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/an-employee-operates-a-front-loader-to-stack-finished-tyres-in-the-picture-id497693442 12:04:34 <andythenorth> eh 12:04:39 <andythenorth> I donât want to put words on the roof 12:04:44 <andythenorth> but how about some giant tyres? 12:04:48 <andythenorth> o_O 12:06:09 <planetmaker> that's a nice idea :) 12:06:14 <V453000> then no words, just giant tyres 12:06:21 <V453000> is what I said as the first thing XD 12:09:01 <andythenorth> go on then, draw me some :D 12:09:07 * andythenorth hates drawing round stuff 12:09:17 <andythenorth> eh, there are probably loads of tyres in HEQS :P 12:16:54 <V453000> ... 12:17:18 <V453000> if you just drew it immediately without bitchin, you would have 100 tires already :P 12:21:44 <andythenorth> donât wave JFDI at me :P 12:21:55 <andythenorth> procrastinating is part of the fun 12:23:40 * planetmaker learnt a new acronym today :P 12:24:13 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7542/tyre_plant_4.png 12:28:45 <andythenorth> tyres are crap at ttd scale :) 12:31:38 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:32:14 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:33:00 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:49:46 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:51:20 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 12:51:22 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 12:51:22 <Eddi|zuHause> again with the gap? 12:51:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:52:01 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 12:52:07 *** Flygon_ is now known as Flygon 12:52:09 <Eddi|zuHause> (i think gaps are just andy's excuse to make industries bigger without seeming to be bigger) 12:54:45 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 12:57:43 <Wolf01> mmmh i'm really sleepy today 12:57:46 <Wolf01> o/ 13:01:16 <andythenorth> gaps are TTD style 13:01:20 <andythenorth> biab 13:01:22 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:09:00 <Alberth> wolfs sleep during the day, don't they? 13:09:12 <__ln__> *wolves 13:11:54 <Wolf01> i woke up 1 hour ago, so i can confirm wolves sleep during the morning 13:23:01 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 13:24:46 <V453000> I dont think there is anything against gaps, I like them 13:28:07 <Eddi|zuHause> but there's nothing to do with them, except build a road through. it's not enough space for a rail line or station 13:28:42 <Eddi|zuHause> cut the gap, and cut one row of buildings... much better. 13:29:17 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:29:41 <Eddi|zuHause> or if you like variety, make 1 in 10 layouts have a gap... 13:29:57 <Eddi|zuHause> but just gaps everywhere is terrible. 13:30:23 <__ln__> mind the gap 13:34:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure they'd rather have no gap as well 13:35:09 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has joined #openttd 13:39:05 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has joined #openttd 13:44:31 <V453000> road/rail/station are all fitting there? 13:44:59 <V453000> / eyecandy objects/stations? 13:45:01 <V453000> I like it. 13:45:17 <Eddi|zuHause> a 2-platform station or a 2-track-rail doesn't fit. 13:45:17 <V453000> also you can build CHIPS tiles inside so that there is actually moving cargo inside of the factory 13:45:38 <V453000> well building tracks close to each other is not the greatest idea either 13:48:58 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:49:05 <V453000> but yeah, 24 platform or 10 track rail does not fit either 13:50:29 <andythenorth> oh the big gaps 13:50:33 <andythenorth> whole tile gaps 13:50:36 <andythenorth> theyâre daft, mostly 13:50:54 <andythenorth> yeah they need removed in many cases 13:54:06 <V453000> but why 13:54:18 <V453000> especially when there is an overhead connection between the parts, they are awesome 13:54:52 <Eddi|zuHause> they still are overused 13:54:59 <V453000> there is no reason to hate them, but there are reason why they are nice, for eyecandy and shit 13:55:12 <andythenorth> some people confuse them for two industries 13:55:21 <V453000> make more connections then :) 13:55:48 <andythenorth> connections donât work 13:55:53 <andythenorth> station tiles etc fuck with them 13:57:35 <V453000> player problem that they build tall stations there 13:57:58 <andythenorth> looks better with gap removed 13:58:03 <andythenorth> Iâm not getting rid of all of them 13:58:06 <V453000> fine :) 13:58:10 <andythenorth> some industries are weird without them 13:58:25 <andythenorth> plantations and forests and such 13:58:50 <andythenorth> oil wells 14:00:31 * andythenorth considers war against industry gaps 14:00:36 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you hate them so much? 14:00:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that's the wrong word 14:01:07 <Eddi|zuHause> "annoyed" 14:01:07 <andythenorth> thesaurus? :P 14:01:51 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 14:02:08 <Flygon> Hey, anyone that can speak Francias on? 14:03:02 <Flygon> I'd like to trust Google Translate 14:03:06 <Flygon> But, frankly, I don't 14:03:15 <Flygon> Does "Devenu fou de Puissance" work well with meaning "Gone Mad with Power"? 14:03:17 <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds like a terrible idea. 14:03:43 <Flygon> (this's, like, the most international channel I know) 14:04:37 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you just missed our resident french set author :p 14:05:30 <Flygon> Perkele 14:06:23 <andythenorth> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7543/tyre_plant_5.png 14:06:54 <andythenorth> v1 https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7539/tyre_plant_1.png 14:08:05 <Wolf01> i think some industries are better with gaps, others don't have any reason to have gaps 14:08:36 <Wolf01> also, the gaps between buildings in the tyre plant disturbs me 14:08:47 <Alberth> make silos much less high? 14:09:34 <Alberth> tyre factory should have round buildings :p 14:09:46 <planetmaker> :D 14:10:00 <V453000> im done 14:10:22 <V453000> bunch of boxes andy :P 14:10:48 <V453000> btw tires arent influenced by lighting and specular? needs bright pixels too 14:18:02 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-235-246.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:19:58 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 14:21:27 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-235-246.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 14:35:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 14:37:30 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 14:57:05 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:00:50 *** DDR [~David@S0106602ad0773a2e.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:07:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:11:48 <andythenorth> cat factory 15:16:04 <Alberth> nah, cats can walk, they don't need tyres 15:16:19 <andythenorth> how about a cat power station? 15:16:32 <andythenorth> using the bad joke of a cat, falling, with buttered toast on its back 15:16:39 <andythenorth> perpetually spinning 15:17:14 <Wolf01> that's one thing i could expect from V, not from you ;) 15:17:17 <Alberth> I am not familiar with that joke, so it's lost on me 15:17:38 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buttered_cat_paradox 15:17:46 <Wolf01> also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8yW5cyXXRc 15:20:03 <Alberth> Right, not very believable, is it? 15:21:02 <Alberth> Although I may be biased as I have seen the Myth busters episode where they investigated the buttered toast story :) 15:28:00 <Eddi|zuHause> last time i heard about buttered toast, the opinion was that it doesn't have anything to do with the butter, but with the height that it falls down from 15:38:05 <V453000> V is all about factories 15:38:34 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 15:41:28 <Eddi|zuHause> Vactories? 15:42:31 <Eddi|zuHause> (in german "V" and "F" sounds are practically identical) 15:59:29 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 16:00:28 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 16:05:41 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@25.103.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #openttd 16:09:02 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:15:50 <Alberth> Victories! 16:27:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6A8B9.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:42:29 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:49:13 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:49:16 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 16:55:32 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:56:13 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 16:58:19 *** TheMask96 [martijn@pride.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:03:03 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:03:30 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest270 17:03:32 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 17:08:18 *** Klanticus [~quassel@179.234.183.59] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:08:33 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 17:09:32 *** Guest270 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:11:38 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:13:06 *** Myhorta[1] [~Myhorta@25.103.114.89.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:34:11 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:43:34 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 17:43:59 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:21 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:48:34 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:48:37 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:55:08 <Mazur> Found a bug in the rebular game lorry station: if you build a lorry station not beside an industry, it doesn't connect to it, even in the capture area. 17:55:45 <Mazur> Join my still unprotected company on Stable, for instance, to see. 17:56:32 <Mazur> Windingsgtone bay oil refinery, hover a lorry station along it;s edges. 17:57:45 <Eddi|zuHause> Mazur: the oil refinery only collects cargo at very specific tiles (use the ? tool). the station must cover one of those 18:00:37 <Mazur> Did not know that. Had trams not getting unloaded for a decade befor I noticed that. 18:00:38 *** luca768 [~luca768@00021443.user.oftc.net] has left #openttd [undefined] 18:00:43 *** luca768 [~luca768@00021443.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:04:37 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 18:05:55 <Terkhen> hello 18:06:00 <andythenorth> hola Terkhen 18:06:52 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 18:08:03 <andythenorth> bbl 18:08:05 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 18:29:34 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:30:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:31:31 <andythenorth> ho nice style in simutrans http://vs.simutrans.com/remote_images/BIG/sand_quarry_w_shovel_20131122.png 18:31:35 <andythenorth> is simutrans any good? 18:34:09 <andythenorth> it seems to have a more active community, and the art is better 18:36:15 <Alberth> hills are hardly vissible 18:36:28 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:39:16 <planetmaker> hm, nice mine you show 18:43:13 * andythenorth reads simutrans forums 18:45:21 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27466 /trunk/src/lang (hungarian.txt spanish.txt) (2015-12-04 19:45:14 +0100 ) 18:45:22 <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0: 18:45:23 <DorpsGek> hungarian - 1 changes by IPG 18:45:24 <DorpsGek> spanish - 2 changes by SilverSurferZzZ 18:52:50 <peter1138> i wonder if it still has the really annoying track-laying and junctions... 19:01:16 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:07:01 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 19:13:48 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f049096107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #openttd 19:20:04 <andythenorth> so eh 19:20:13 <andythenorth> I have to draw a vehicle factory next 19:20:50 <andythenorth> currently looks like this http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#vehicle_factory 19:20:54 <andythenorth> same as machine shop 19:21:32 <andythenorth> lame 19:21:37 <Alberth> hmm, unless you make very expensive hand made cars... 19:22:09 <Alberth> should have at least a car park 19:22:23 <Alberth> and possibly a truck with cars? 19:22:34 <andythenorth> maybe 19:22:40 <andythenorth> also I think distinctive buildings 19:23:15 <andythenorth> FIRS has so many industries, keeping them distinctive is getting hard 19:23:25 <andythenorth> but ones like this are unique http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#textile_mill 19:23:35 <andythenorth> vehicle factory is just a big metal box though 19:25:01 <Alberth> yep, your boxes need to be bigger in area, I think 19:25:10 <Alberth> and some black car park 19:25:36 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f742e82.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 19:25:49 <Alberth> test track is optional for the serious manufacturer :) 19:25:51 <Alberth> quak 19:26:16 <frosch123> hoin 19:27:11 <andythenorth> I really dislike multi-tile industry buildings :) 19:27:37 <Alberth> hmm, you must dislike lots of FIRS industries then :p 19:27:55 <andythenorth> I do :) 19:28:22 <andythenorth> all buildings from last 3-4 years are single tile :D 19:29:00 <Alberth> you should do SMIB (small is beautiful) 19:29:42 <andythenorth> maybe an approach like aluminium plant? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#aluminium_plant 19:29:45 <andythenorth> the long buildings? 19:30:13 <andythenorth> I like that one 19:30:22 <Alberth> too many chimneys, but yeah, it looks car-ish 19:30:43 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:32:15 <andythenorth> http://teknikensvarld.se/wp-content/uploads/import/images/global/nyheter/2012/10/16/saab-fabriken.jpg 19:32:46 <andythenorth> long metal buildings in company colour? 19:32:48 <Alberth> looks very car-ish :) 19:32:54 <andythenorth> Saab factory 19:33:01 <andythenorth> + office block + car parks 19:33:33 <Alberth> amazing how much space you'd need for a somewhat faithful reproduction of that factory 19:33:42 <andythenorth> 28x28 tiles probly 19:34:00 <frosch123> what happened to baldy? 19:34:00 <andythenorth> there are reasons we compress in game :D 19:34:01 <Alberth> I like the two different coloured buidings 19:34:07 <frosch123> no new topics in 3 days 19:34:07 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:34:11 <andythenorth> white office block? o_O 19:34:14 <andythenorth> might look nice 19:34:41 <andythenorth> I could steal from the dairy, including the flags :P http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#dairy 19:34:58 <Alberth> ha :) 19:35:14 <Alberth> just the high part I guess? 19:36:42 <Alberth> saab thingie is much more white (smaller windows), by the looks of it 19:37:20 <Alberth> dairy looks good enough 19:43:19 * andythenorth draws 19:44:38 <Eearslya> meow 19:48:03 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:48:06 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:54:02 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:07:05 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:09:39 *** Wormnest__ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 20:16:26 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:29:34 <andythenorth> start of vehicle factory https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/firs/repository/revisions/221eadcbf3ab/entry/graphics_sources/vehicle_factory/vehicle_factory.png 20:29:49 <andythenorth> big and bigger buildings, to connect together 20:36:08 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 20:36:10 <drac_boy> hi 20:37:23 <frosch123> andythenorth: i would expect some kind of beltsystem inside 20:37:36 <frosch123> so, rather a long, possibly O or U shaped building 20:38:24 <andythenorth> parts in one end, cars out the other? 20:38:35 <frosch123> kind off 20:38:39 <frosch123> -f 20:38:51 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:40:17 *** Stachel-Gewitter [~42@v22013111875415224.yourvserver.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:43:18 *** Stachel-Gewitter [~42@v22013111875415224.yourvserver.net] has joined #openttd 20:43:55 <peter1138> heh, train fever for (along with other crap) in the weekly humble bundle 20:44:23 <peter1138> slightly less than the £19.99 on steam right now 20:57:10 <drac_boy> ah forgot about that game being around.. 20:57:16 * drac_boy wonders what it requires 21:01:32 <planetmaker> frosch123, a belt doesn't mean it's necessarily a long building. In the VW plant here in Wolfsburg they well bend and twist from one workstation to the other 21:01:46 <planetmaker> but then... the plant covers dozens of acres 21:02:37 <drac_boy> hm I guess xp+apu looks just ok for that thing..guess I'll have to look more into that game again 21:14:42 <Taede> b 21:18:20 <drac_boy> b <? :) 21:21:45 <andythenorth> bye 21:21:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:26:02 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 21:29:40 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@95.76.27.245] has quit [] 21:29:59 <drac_boy> either way be back later 21:30:02 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 21:30:02 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x5f742e82.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 21:40:31 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 22:08:52 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-175.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 22:18:21 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18A32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:34:36 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f049096107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:39:01 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@2a02:8109:680:910:260:6eff:fe42:7728] has joined #openttd 22:44:00 *** Tirili [~chatzilla@2a02:8109:680:910:260:6eff:fe42:7728] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.39/20151110143939]] 22:44:36 <Wolf01> 'night 22:44:39 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:47:24 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 23:08:58 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client] 23:18:53 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:26:09 *** greeter [~greeter@0001c47f.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 23:26:27 *** Wormnest__ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:27:52 *** greeter [~greeter@0001c47f.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:39:31 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18A32.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]