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Log for #openttd on 15th December 2015:
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00:11:17  <MDaxo> i have a question for you openttd'ers
00:11:24  <MDaxo> What level do you usually build your rails at
00:11:26  <MDaxo> 3, 4?
00:11:34  <MDaxo> as in elevation
00:11:38  <Wolf01> 1-15
00:12:06  <MDaxo> Wolf01, thing is that rails have to be at a constant elevation since slopes slow down electric engines
00:12:12  <MDaxo> so you have to pick on elevation
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00:12:51  <Wolf01> nah, enable the right setting or use a grf which addresses the problem
00:13:07  <Wolf01> or just put more engines on the same train
00:13:17  <MDaxo> still i like to have my tracks level
00:14:25  <ST2> as some already said: the good is enemy of the optimal ^^
00:16:37  <ST2> and if you're playing SP game, never forget the CTRL+ALT+C cheat window :P
00:17:11  <ST2> if on a MP server game, well... just comply with limitations and try the best out of it ;)
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00:42:44  <Wolf01> 'night
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00:46:23  <_dp_> always funny to see people continuing to build stupid tunnels even with realistic acceleration :)
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01:05:46  <ST2> well _dp_, I was still waiting that MDaxo had something to say more. Because SP and MP games can differ A LOT (as known ^^)
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01:07:14  <ST2> "something more to say"*   (correction - better late then never;)
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01:48:41  <argoneus> good night train friends
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08:20:58  <Wolf01> moin
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09:09:21  <planetmaker> o/
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11:44:18  <Wolf01> cats... http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aRA6odB_460s.jpg
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12:17:59  <Wolf01> and here you can see V453000 playing with friends while going to work... http://9gag.com/gag/aQ86Zy8
12:42:57  <V453000> gg I do not like CS one bit :P
12:43:08  <Wolf01> :D
12:43:30  <Wolf01> do you happen to draw pixel art sprites too or just render 3d models?
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12:44:11  <V453000> pixel art was NUTS only, now I only do 3D models
12:44:47  <Wolf01> k, maybe i'll wait for andy
12:44:56  <V453000> what do you need to know?
12:45:08  <planetmaker> lol, Wolf01 :)
12:45:20  <Wolf01> i'm looking to draw an animated top-down tank for my game, cartoon style
12:45:42  <Wolf01> like this, but top down http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/483812196
12:46:52  <V453000> right
12:47:14  <V453000> depends on the other styling of the game
12:47:20  <V453000> but should be relatively easy
12:47:25  <Wolf01> i have to do all the graphics
12:47:38  <V453000> I see
12:48:13  <Wolf01> atm i have this one which i designed ages ago: https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=D5D7348BE1780505!3574&authkey=!AOL5uih5WoYqV2A&v=3&ithint=photo%2cpng
12:48:46  <V453000> yay
12:49:55  <Wolf01> only tracks are animated (that one is a single frame), and the turret is fixed because the game doesn't need it
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13:57:30  <argoneus> good morning train friends
13:58:56  <V453000> shit on afternoon
14:00:54  <argoneus> afternoon for you maybe
14:01:00  <argoneus> real men wake up after lunch
14:01:34  <__ln__> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWNW9qHUYAAoNJH.jpg
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14:06:15  <Eddi|zuHause> so you eat lunch in your sleep?
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14:12:53  <FR^2> only while playing openttd
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14:30:37  <Eddi|zuHause> so you eat lunch in your sleep while you play openttd in your sleep?
14:34:12  <Wolf01> why not?
14:37:47  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm just trying to determine whether we are talking about the empty set
14:38:49  <Eddi|zuHause> but it's surprisingly tricky to ask the members of the empty set whether they are members of the empty set
14:38:57  <Wolf01> meh... i have 1.283s of ping
14:39:23  <Eddi|zuHause> i get upgraded to a 50/10 line in the next week
14:39:48  <__ln__> congrats
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17:23:02  <arroyoc> Hi, I uploaded a quick patch to FlySpray
17:23:51  <arroyoc> it improves the build system on Haiku (BeOS clone)
17:24:29  <arroyoc> https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6401
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18:13:21  <planetmaker> arroyoc, what makes sure that the variable $includeDir is set?
18:13:41  <Alberth> o/
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18:17:12  <arroyoc> planetmaker: Haiku sets that variable
18:18:15  <arroyoc> The patch has been working since 12 january 2014
18:19:08  <arroyoc> but only in our ports tree
18:19:31  <arroyoc> now we want to upstream the patch
18:20:14  <argoneus> forgive me ignorance
18:20:23  <argoneus> but what can Haiku offer compared to other, mainstream OS's?
18:20:34  <argoneus> I've never even heard of it
18:21:08  <glx> different hardware IIRC
18:21:53  <argoneus> wiki says it's i386
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18:22:14  <glx> ha yes it's a kind of BEOS
18:22:22  <argoneus> which is 32bit x86
18:22:34  <arroyoc> argoneus, a BeOS clone
18:23:09  <Eddi|zuHause> arroyoc: that isn't really an answer to the question
18:23:31  <arroyoc> BeFS, BeAPI, threads and an addon system
18:23:44  <argoneus> I more meant like
18:23:55  <argoneus> why would I install Haiku on my computer rather than Windows or a Linux distro
18:25:03  <argoneus> it seems to be fairly mature and with a lot of support
18:25:14  <arroyoc> argoneus, not really
18:26:20  <arroyoc> still missing some first class software
18:26:35  <arroyoc> for example a good web browser like Firefox (we have a WebKit port but it doesn't work very well)
18:26:51  <argoneus> so it's just a for-enthusiasts operating system right now?
18:27:00  <argoneus> not meant for production usage
18:27:09  <arroyoc> yes
18:27:12  <argoneus> ah, I see
18:27:28  <arroyoc> maybe the internals are ready, but still missing libraries and apps
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18:28:09  <arroyoc> Eddi|zuHause: well, I can use a command to get the environment variable, will it be accepted?
18:28:42  <Eddi|zuHause> arroyoc: i meant the other question...
18:29:13  <Eddi|zuHause> arroyoc: i am neither qualified nor authorized for such a decision
18:32:42  <arroyoc> the last year we merged the Package Manageent system, which makes the system read-only (only /home is writable), I don't know if other Linux distros offer such isolation
18:33:17  <argoneus> well
18:33:26  <argoneus> if you aren't root then you already have that isolation
18:33:37  <argoneus> if you aren't root or a user with special permissions*
18:34:23  <planetmaker> arroyoc, yeah, I mostly wonder(ed) whether it's one which you set or which the system always sets. In the latter case it's fine, in the first I'd like to see some provision which checks for it being set
18:34:36  <planetmaker> as I've no means to test myself, thus I'm asking :)
18:39:08  <arroyoc> planetmaker, if you want to be sure just declare includeDir=`finddir B_SYSTEM_HEADERS_DIRECTORY`
18:39:33  <arroyoc> i'm going to include that
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18:45:19  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27471 trunk/src/lang/czech.txt (2015-12-15 19:45:10 +0100 )
18:45:20  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:21  <DorpsGek> czech - 1 changes by djst
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18:51:46  <V453000> planetmaker: I think it would make sense to remove RAWR from translated projects, the only string there is the grf name :D
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19:09:35  <arroyoc> planetmaker, just updated the patch
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19:54:02  <andythenorth> o/
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19:56:23  <Alberth> o/
19:58:18  <frosch123> hoi
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20:08:18  <andythenorth> is cat
20:08:29  <andythenorth> @seen pikka
20:08:29  <DorpsGek> andythenorth: pikka was last seen in #openttd 5 weeks, 2 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <Pikka> well
20:08:38  <andythenorth> that time just gets longer and longer :P
20:08:41  <andythenorth> every time I ask
20:08:43  <andythenorth> how strange
20:09:39  <frosch123> that's only your perspective
20:10:09  <frosch123> it's less long today that it was tomorrows, and way less long than it was in a month
20:10:33  <frosch123> you only need to turn your head
20:13:14  <andythenorth> my head is fixed
20:13:35  <andythenorth> w.r.t the arrow of time :P
20:14:47  <frosch123> maybe sit on a unicorn then, and tell them to turn
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20:43:29  <andythenorth> ha ha
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20:43:46  <DorpsGek> Commit by planetmaker :: r27472 trunk/config.lib (2015-12-15 21:43:39 +0100 )
20:43:47  <DorpsGek> -Change [FS#6401] (r20219): On Haiku use the appropriate system variable to obtain the include dir (aarroyoc)
20:50:25  <planetmaker> thank you, arroyoc :)
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20:55:02  <andythenorth> 3 RV sets at once in forums :P
20:55:13  <andythenorth> unusual
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21:07:32  <andythenorth> anyone tried new FIRS Arctic?
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21:51:34  <andythenorth> bye
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21:51:54  <Eddi|zuHause> i've not even tried any of the old FIRS economies...
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23:26:36  <argoneus> good night train friends
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23:37:38  <drac_boy> hi
23:39:53  <drac_boy> just had to ask but is there still any sort of interests in IS2/alike or the whole thing seem to have died by now?
23:40:49  <drac_boy> (I always wondered if it'll still work against the newer ottd builds too but thats another thing heh)
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