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01:29:31  <argoneus> good night train friends
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05:55:35  <Flygon> What was the speed limit for 2 tile long curves, again?
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05:56:34  <Flygon> Oh, dear
05:56:36  <Flygon> 111km/h
05:56:43  <Flygon> Craaaap :(
05:57:13  <Dakkus> flygon: https://wiki.openttd.org/Game_Mechanics#Vehicle_Speeds
05:57:48  <Dakkus> Aha, you found it quicker yourself :)
05:58:19  <Flygon> I forgot where the article was x.x
05:58:21  <Flygon> Basically...
05:58:26  <Flygon> Had a busy junction
05:58:28  <Flygon> But cramped room
05:58:38  <Flygon> But had to put in a free flowing high speed junction...
05:59:19  <Flygon> I COULD probably make three of the leafs in the cloverlead good for 132km/h
05:59:24  <Flygon> But one's actually not in use
05:59:40  <Flygon> And one that NEEDS speedening can't be done
05:59:48  <Flygon> If I had access to curved bridges or tunnels
05:59:54  <Flygon> I'd have a waaay more compact interchange
05:59:58  <Flygon> Though, even THEN
06:00:09  <Flygon> Building a stack interchange needs more powerful locomotives
06:00:15  <Flygon> And most of the traffic atm is FREIGHT
06:00:24  <Flygon> And that hates the climbing :|
06:02:03  <Flygon> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2651992/Art/Other/openttdlansingfreeflowcloverleaf.png I'm screeeewed. Dammit Lansing.
06:02:46  <Flygon> Hopefully
06:02:50  <Flygon> It actually won't be a problem
06:02:56  <Flygon> And pax won't need to use the cloverleaf at all
06:03:17  <Flygon> And I build pax lines around it, and grow suburbia around it
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07:47:38  <andythenorth> o/
07:48:38  <frosch123> hoin
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10:01:57  <Flygon> I... uhm
10:02:07  <Flygon> Take it the 2CC Tram Set isn't designed for realistic acceleration?
10:02:32  <frosch123> how old is it?
10:02:47  <Flygon> Going by the forums
10:02:48  <Rubidium> well, a 2cc engine doesn't sound very powerfull or realistic
10:02:49  <Flygon> Pretty new
10:03:01  <Flygon> Rudibium: Actually
10:03:12  <Flygon> Some of the Trams have TE and HP ratings for realistic
10:03:16  <Flygon> Others have null strings
10:03:39  <Flygon> Yeah, the readme is copyrighted 2015
10:04:21  <frosch123> ok, i thought it was from 2010 or older :p
10:04:35  <Flygon> Yeah
10:04:37  <Flygon> Sorry x.x
10:04:44  <Flygon> Lemme grab the topic
10:04:51  <Flygon> Knowing me
10:05:04  <Flygon> I'm idiotic enough to overlook features being unimplemented
10:05:15  <Flygon> Oh noo
10:05:20  <Flygon> The Snow Theme's back :(
10:05:25  <Flygon> It's Summer what is this :(
10:06:04  * Rubidium wonders how long it takes before the Christmas songs are going to be changed
10:06:12  <Flygon> Odd
10:06:17  <Flygon> It's disappeared... I... sorry
10:06:29  <frosch123> Rubidium: heard about that austrian radio guy?
10:06:44  <frosch123> Flygon: it's all from 2014
10:06:57  <Flygon> I swear the topic was posted in recently
10:07:00  <Flygon> Why can't I find it
10:07:06  <Flygon> I've dun goofed
10:07:16  <frosch123> Flygon: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/trams-2cc <- it's all there
10:07:32  <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/trams-2cc/repository/show/src/vehicles <- and it uses ini files :)
10:08:19  <frosch123> those files contain "weight" and "power", so realistic acceleration should work/is intended
10:08:43  <Flygon> I've lost my marbles
10:09:18  <Rubidium> frosch123: I can't say I'm familiar with Austrian radio (or Australian for that matter)
10:09:51  <Rubidium> are you sure copyright doesn't say 2005-2010 and your mind messes that up to 2015?
10:09:55  <frosch123> basically some moderator had some kind of "breakdown", locked himself inside the studio and broadcasted "last christmas" no stop for 3 hours
10:10:23  <Flygon> frosch123: I get the feeling that the Bananas version might be outdated
10:11:02  <Flygon> Rubidium: The .grf's own URL links back to the openttdcoop link frosch123 linked
10:11:06  <Flygon> So
10:11:34  <Flygon> I'm pretty sure the .grf doesn't date back to when .grf was more popularly known for being the stuff that broke Ragnarok Online patchers and had me screaming at a craptacular CRT xP
10:13:31  <frosch123> Flygon: according to the devzone repository, nothing changed about acceleration till 0.1.0-beta2
10:14:39  <Rubidium> frosch123: till as in, looking through revisions in reverse order?
10:14:58  <Flygon> The one on Bananas is 0.10-beta2
10:15:45  <Flygon> Erm, 0.1.0
10:17:06  <frosch123> Rubidium: yeah, "since" :)
10:18:02  <Flygon> Weird...
10:18:24  <Flygon> Hmm
10:19:16  <Flygon> Might have to compile the 'latest' and insert it manually and hope that doesn't break the entire savegame
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10:54:18  <Eddi|zuHause> bÀh, KSP is ever so crashy...
11:01:15  <argoneus> merry christmas train friends
11:01:52  <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: doesn't crash for me
11:01:59  <argoneus> mods?
11:02:22  <Eddi|zuHause> nope
11:02:42  <Eddi|zuHause> go to the tutorial, works fine, exit to menu, go to (same or other) tutorial: crash
11:03:08  <Eddi|zuHause> also, it crashes quite often when adding parts with weird symmetry
11:03:11  <argoneus> weird
11:03:14  <Eddi|zuHause> and when going to the launchpad
11:03:15  <argoneus> i havent had a single crash yet
11:03:17  <argoneus> windows?
11:03:22  <Eddi|zuHause> linux
11:03:26  <argoneus> Ahh.
11:03:27  <argoneus> that's why
11:03:36  <argoneus> unity isn't friends with linux apparently
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11:16:08  <andythenorth> bah
11:16:25  <andythenorth> I am trying to make FIRS industries more diverse in appearance
11:16:28  <andythenorth> and less copy-paste
11:16:40  <andythenorth> the next one to draw is Pyrite Processor (ore -> chemicals, metal)
11:16:54  <andythenorth> but IRL it looks like the Copper Refinery :P
11:17:25  <andythenorth> due to, eh, refining copper and refining pyrite are very similar processes based around sulphuric acid :P
11:17:41  <andythenorth> AIUI, some pyrite is even copper-bearing
11:17:52  <andythenorth> what larks
11:19:16  <Eddi|zuHause> i think you're worrying about details nobody will ever notice
11:20:52  <frosch123> andythenorth: the pictures for pyrite roaster look very different to your copper refinery
11:22:42  <frosch123> the tanks all loook closed
11:23:29  <frosch123> also, you can vary the graphics by putting tanks horizontally instead of vertically
11:23:38  <frosch123> alter their size etc
11:24:25  <frosch123> http://www.cim.org/~/media/Images/Publications-Technical-Resources/Publications/CIM-Magazine/2009/MarApr09/history/5.ashx?la=en <- horizontal tanks
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11:24:50  <frosch123> http://www.outotec.com/PageFiles/12183/roasting_500x700.jpg <- closed tank instead of pool
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11:30:40  <andythenorth> I guess there are different definitions of ‘similar’ :D
11:30:59  <andythenorth> I am looking at big pipes, tanks, and girder-frameworks, and thinking ‘same’ :P
11:31:22  <frosch123> you also drew 3 farms
11:32:07  <frosch123> and how many ports?
11:32:30  <frosch123> yeah, i think the chemical plants are your smallest problem there :p
11:33:19  <andythenorth> how about this one? http://ljplus.ru/img4/f/r/fred16/IMG_7382.jpg
11:33:20  <andythenorth> o_O
11:33:45  <frosch123> haha, nice pile :)
11:33:45  <V453000> that looks sick
11:34:12  <andythenorth> sulphuric acid plant
11:34:34  <andythenorth> dunno if that has anything to do with pyrite, but looks good eh?
11:34:50  <andythenorth> that, a crusher, and a big roasting building
11:35:13  <V453000> I like the huge and many pipes going out/to it
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11:44:20  <Eddi|zuHause> looks abandoned to me
11:45:56  <andythenorth> it is
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11:45:58  <andythenorth> now dismantled
11:46:01  <andythenorth> ukraine or so
11:51:02  <andythenorth> I never did like this plastics plant http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#plastics_plant
11:51:08  <andythenorth> maybe that needs redrawn also :P
11:51:31  <andythenorth> super bland
11:54:24  <Flygon> Seems 2CC Trams is broken on Original too
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11:56:18  <Wolf01> o/
11:59:57  <Flygon> Eyy :3
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12:34:48  <Amis> Hi! Is it normal for the desert map to have transmitters all over it? It feels pretty out of space. (1.5.3)
12:35:41  <Amis> Well, place*
12:38:03  <frosch123> many transmitters is normal, but they are more noticeable in desert than in rainforest
12:38:28  <frosch123> the map generators are pretty broken in 1.5, depending on settings you may have very much desert
12:44:32  <Amis> I see, I wasn't sure if they were there before since I just upgraded to 1.5 from some 1.4. I guess there's no way to disable it other than using the magic bulldozer
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13:55:02  <andythenorth> manually specifying conflicts across multiple economies is fail
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18:45:20  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27477 /trunk/src/lang (greek.txt polish.txt) (2015-12-24 19:45:14 +0100 )
18:45:21  <DorpsGek> -Update from WebTranslator v3.0:
18:45:22  <DorpsGek> greek - 76 changes by Ferrum
18:45:23  <DorpsGek> polish - 1 changes by ampersand
18:45:37  <peter1138> hmm, doom3... was that really 2004...
18:51:40  <Rubidium> feels like yesterday?
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23:44:28  <Wolf01> 'night
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