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07:04:26  <__ln__> good morning at -12.3 °F
07:07:02  * Supercheese shivers
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10:11:59  <Wolf01> o/
10:13:00  <V453000> HELO
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11:11:08  <V453000> yay frog
11:12:26  <frosch123> it's a V
11:12:32  <Wolf01> quak
11:13:10  <frosch123> and a W
11:13:40  <planetmaker> moin
11:13:45  <V453000> heyo
11:13:58  <V453000> I pushed a product pm :)
11:14:01  <V453000> not only at the toilet
11:14:21  <planetmaker> :)
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15:04:20  <frosch123> lol wut
15:04:32  <frosch123> factorio 0.12.21 ate all my modules :p
15:04:52  <frosch123> hmm, no, not all
15:05:12  <frosch123> oh, maybe i just go insane
15:05:49  <V453000> factorio be innocent
15:06:29  <V453000> I actually still have like .12.14 here ... no time or need to update XD
15:10:29  <V453000> ... having made trello is great, but sometimes it is quite daunting to see how many tasks there are, and each task often generates many new sub-tasks XD yesterday I finished new tubular bridges. When I saw the renders today morning in the game, I added 9 sub-tasks to actually fix them XD
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15:58:14  <frosch123> o/
16:04:46  <Alberth> hi hi
16:05:43  <Alberth> I hacked eints somewhat, still needs to check if it makes more sense now :)
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16:36:53  <m1cr0man> Hey lads. I'm setting up a server on CentOS 7 atm but im hitting a brick wall with this error: http://u.m1cr0man.com/lh9m I have unblocked ports 3979 and 3978 udp + tcp through iptables, but still no luck
16:37:24  <m1cr0man> Is there some catch with selinux?
16:38:18  <m1cr0man> actually nvm its disabled
16:39:33  <Alberth> if you type the ip address manually at another machine, you should be able to connect
16:40:28  <Alberth> although likely, it won't work, or the advertising would work too :)
16:41:29  <m1cr0man> yeah, it doesnt
16:45:16  <Alberth> the fire wall in the router of the ISP?
16:46:28  <Taede> is that link to your error hosted on the same machine? because its timing out for me
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17:39:41  <argoneus> V453000: you made trello?/
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17:45:22  <Alberth> o/
18:00:10  <Eddi|zuHause> trololo?
18:04:04  <V453000> ...
18:04:15  <V453000> yes I have a trello board, I did not create the server.
18:05:10  <Alberth> obviously, you need trello to write such a program :p
18:05:18  <frosch123> yeah, trello and factorio all made by the same guy... that would be a bit much
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18:06:41  <Alberth> really wtf :)
18:06:48  <V453000> wat
18:07:42  <Alberth> nvm :)
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18:16:05  <frosch123> V453000: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1449329702#1449329702 <- for context :p
18:19:04  <andythenorth> o/
18:19:23  <andythenorth> there is no sufficient context
18:20:18  <V453000> ?
18:20:19  <V453000> I get it not
18:20:25  <Alberth> at the Internet, you don't need context, do you?
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18:21:26  <andythenorth> there is no context that would be enough to make sense of all of this
18:21:34  <andythenorth> you’d have to keep going up to next level of context
18:21:53  * andythenorth may be talking crap :P
18:23:10  <V453000> so andythenorth how the uncontexted fuck are you doing?
18:23:54  <andythenorth> well
18:23:58  <andythenorth> dunno
18:24:02  <andythenorth> got an ebay addiction
18:24:08  <andythenorth> also not finished FIRS
18:25:31  <V453000> ebay addiction?
18:26:12  <frosch123> moar lego
18:26:17  * andythenorth trains
18:26:19  <andythenorth> not buying
18:26:23  <andythenorth> just looking
18:26:30  <andythenorth> then deciding that it’s way too much money
18:26:38  <andythenorth> feels like saving money = morally good eh?
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18:28:07  <V453000> :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
18:28:15  <V453000> sounds ill
18:29:01  <andythenorth> ebay so over-priced
18:29:09  <andythenorth> ‘efficient markets’ my arse
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18:29:52  <V453000> I spent whole afternoon fixing some retarded technical issues in my bridges causing some artifacts ... then I made new tubular bridges which I did not like at all so I threw them away ... and made version 3 which looked cute at the first sight, but in the game they glitch and carry other problems. Luckily I will be able to make them work I think ... though it will take some effort
18:30:29  <m1cr0man> has anyone tried to connect to a server through an ssh tunnel?
18:30:50  <m1cr0man> I got my earlier problem solved (previous firewall rules were set to send openttd traffic to a VM)
18:33:25  <Alberth> V: for some reason, you always need a few test runs before everything falls into place :)
18:33:40  <andythenorth> wow, if only
18:33:49  <andythenorth> when I was a kid I had a lot of model trains
18:33:55  <andythenorth> if I’d only kept them boxed and pristine
18:34:03  <andythenorth> they’d now be worth slightly less than they cost
18:34:05  <V453000> well in this case the "tubular" part of the bridge is slightly huge, so it overlaps with trains going under it
18:34:06  <andythenorth> after inflation
18:34:17  <V453000> among the other shit
18:34:28  <V453000> haha andythenorth
18:34:46  <Alberth> tbh I would really like to have bridges where you can clearly see the trains
18:34:59  <andythenorth> minimalist?
18:35:00  <frosch123> m1cr0man: no, but ssh -L 3979:<remote>:3979 should no the trick
18:35:14  <andythenorth> nobody ever does a simple plate girder bridge, eh :P
18:35:19  <m1cr0man> yeah, thats what im trying
18:35:21  <V453000> Alberth: yeah they are half-transparent and rest is completely transparent
18:35:31  <V453000> :)
18:35:36  <andythenorth> http://www.readingrr.com/lines/belt/files/010.jpg
18:35:45  <V453000> in fact the version 2 was a bridge with just small railings on each side
18:35:51  <V453000> but it looked too basic, not modern and shit
18:35:53  <andythenorth> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/SteamAcrossIowaRiver.JPG
18:36:18  <Alberth> those are my kind of bridges :D
18:36:37  <V453000> point :)
18:36:55  <V453000> issue is when you put a fat road on this, it looks weird
18:36:57  <V453000> flying road
18:37:05  <frosch123> m1cr0man: if you want to "find" the server within ottd (i.e. not enter 127.0.0.1), you also need port 3978
18:37:15  <m1cr0man> oh!
18:37:17  <Alberth> but yeah, it may be tricky to get it look right
18:37:25  <frosch123> hmm, actually not true
18:37:33  <frosch123> server qeury is also 3979
18:37:38  <V453000> as NewGRF bridges only for trains, absolutely - I find for example the monorail pipe-only bridges awesome
18:37:48  <V453000> but as base set-ish bridges, probably not
18:38:07  <V453000> still, stuff like original base set cantlievers aint happening here :)
18:38:15  <V453000> all bridges are kind of visible
18:39:00  <m1cr0man> frosch123, yeah didn't work
18:39:09  <m1cr0man> I have aa working VNC connection forwarded
18:39:15  <m1cr0man> so ik its not my ssh
18:40:13  <andythenorth> http://techbreezy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Pamban-Bridge.jpg
18:40:20  <andythenorth> http://myrameswaram.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/survived-a-major-cyclone.jpg
18:40:56  <V453000> andythenorth: draw bridges for us?
18:40:59  <V453000> the world needs YOU
18:41:14  <andythenorth> it does?
18:41:18  <V453000> deadline is yesterday, thank you, the community demands it
18:41:26  <andythenorth> community eh
18:41:45  * andythenorth checks diary
18:41:53  <andythenorth> bit busy
18:41:58  <V453000> SHAYM
18:42:13  <andythenorth> I knoooow
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19:21:50  <Eddi|zuHause> IT'S ALIVE! (sort of)
19:23:03  <Eddi|zuHause> i switched out the router to a newer model, for the new internet that (probably) gets installed tomorrow
19:23:36  <Eddi|zuHause> and in the old one i manually set an ip, but i couldn't reach the new one under the (supposed) default ip...
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19:24:08  <Eddi|zuHause> ... and i couldn't figure out how to set up dhcp in linux without an internet connection...
19:24:33  <Eddi|zuHause> </endofmonologue>
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19:27:04  <__ln__> congratulations for getting a new internet
19:34:16  <Eddi|zuHause> well, i was fine with the old one, but they insisted...
19:36:13  <planetmaker> and now you download the whole internet?
19:36:24  <planetmaker> or did you move it to the trash bin?
19:44:32  <Eddi|zuHause> in other news... i have a fancy new space station, but two of the solar panels refuse to unfold, says they are "stowed"...
19:44:54  <Eddi|zuHause> and i don't know how to "unstow" them...
19:46:02  <Wolf01> you are lucky, i'm connected at 1.8Mbit/s now
19:46:14  <Wolf01> new year, same problems
19:46:44  <Eddi|zuHause> it wasn't that long ago when i was connected with 384kbit/s
19:47:08  <Wolf01> instead of?
19:47:20  <Wolf01> because i'm paying for 7Mbit
19:47:36  <Wolf01> also the connection now is really unstable
19:51:35  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm currently on 16Mbit (shared between the neighbourhood), they're upgrading to 50Mbit (individually for each house)
19:51:53  <Wolf01> i just opened a new ticket to the customer support
19:52:36  <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose the shared line is actually bigger than 16mbit, just that is the uppoer bound of what i can use
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20:11:18  <andythenorth> bbl
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20:33:44  <Xaroth|Work> I found a new loading screen for openttd: http://imgur.com/qPBYKAs.gifv
20:33:56  <Wolf01> :o
20:34:54  <V453000> holy sheit
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20:37:55  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't get .gifv... why not just call it .mp4 which it actually is?
20:38:08  <Wolf01> i agree
20:38:27  <Xaroth|Work> Eddi|zuHause: because it's an auto-convert from .gif
20:38:35  <Eddi|zuHause> Xaroth|Work: no it's not
20:38:40  <Xaroth|Work> if you change it from .gifv to .gif
20:38:47  <Xaroth|Work> it'll show you the same image, only then in gif format
20:39:01  <Eddi|zuHause> if you change the extension to .mp4 you get the actual video
20:39:19  <Xaroth|Work> you can even change the extension to .jpg
20:39:47  <Eddi|zuHause> Xaroth|Work: if at all, the gif is an autoconvert from the mp4
20:40:06  <Eddi|zuHause> and the .gifv is just a wrapper around the video
20:41:49  <Eddi|zuHause> if you look at the source, you see it's just a standard <video> tag
20:41:54  <Xaroth|Work> if you upload a .gif to imgur
20:42:06  <Xaroth|Work> it automatically converts it to a .mp4 and creates a .gifv page to show that
20:42:34  <Eddi|zuHause> Xaroth|Work: that may be true, but it's very likely not what happened to this video
20:42:34  <Xaroth|Work> it actually converts to either webm or mp4
20:42:37  <Wolf01> it's still useless.. just show the mp4 or the gif
20:43:09  <Xaroth|Work> http://blog.imgur.com/2014/10/09/introducing-gifv/
20:43:42  <Wolf01> oh, so it's just a looping video...
20:45:58  <Eddi|zuHause> yes. it is plain and simply a wrapper around the mp4 (or webm)
20:58:35  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, this contract wants me to build a mun base... that would probably be easier if i had a method to assemble objects in place...
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21:00:33  <Eddi|zuHause> like a forklift or something
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21:25:14  <Aphid> I'd like to actually setup a repo/project for my GS; where do I proceed? https://dev.openttdcoop.org/ask_new_project is a 404 apparently.
21:25:37  <V453000> XD
21:25:46  <V453000> that tells something
21:25:51  <V453000> ask frosch123 or planetmaker me thinks
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21:27:16  <frosch123> Aphid: try that url with http instead of https
21:27:23  <frosch123> it is only a redirection anyway
21:27:31  <frosch123> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home/issues/new?issue[description]=Hello%2C+I+would+like+to+request+a+project+on+your+DevZone%2C+my+work+is+or+will+be+GPL+and+therefore+legitimate+to+be+hosted+from+you.+More+infos+follows%3A&issue[priority_id]=7&issue[subject]=Applying+for+project%3A+%3Cname+here%3E&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=4&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=3&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=115&issue[watcher_user_ids][]=254&tracker_id=6
21:27:35  <frosch123> to that beast :p
21:27:39  <planetmaker> :D
21:27:41  <Aphid> That actually works
21:27:46  <planetmaker> right, but we can handle that now
21:28:00  <Aphid> Well, at least you've got an idea of how to fix the broken link, that's nice
21:29:29  <planetmaker> I mean, tell me what repo and project you need and I can create that right now :)
21:30:12  <planetmaker> also the simple link works http://
21:30:25  <planetmaker> thus our rewrite for https seems borked
21:30:43  <planetmaker> ^Spike^, that's something for you ^ ;)
21:30:55  <Aphid> I just filled in the form... well for as much as I could
21:31:34  <Aphid> #7959 @ https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/7959 -- code attached.
21:31:45  <frosch123> ^Spike^: https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home" target="_blank">https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/home <- the link on that page works, https://dev.openttdcoop.org/ <- on that one it is broken
21:32:37  <planetmaker> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/citybuilder-gs <-- that's a different city builder, Aphid ?
21:32:42  <^Spike^> .....
21:32:45  <^Spike^> i made a rewrite mistake? :)
21:33:09  <planetmaker> no, probably just something anyone ever requested :)
21:33:30  <Aphid> http://binaries.openttd.org/bananas/gamescript/CityBuilder-114.tar.gz should be the correct link. Same file in principle.
21:34:02  <Aphid> And yeah the dude's project is a diffrent one.
21:34:16  <frosch123> http://bananas.openttd.org/en/gs/ <- "simple city builder" vs "city builder" :p
21:34:25  <planetmaker> :) ok
21:34:33  <^Spike^> i see the redirect seems gone :)
21:34:34  <planetmaker> I need a name suggestion :P
21:34:42  <frosch123> maybe we should ban the word "city builder" for being too generic :p
21:34:50  <Aphid> Yeah it could do with a rename
21:34:52  <^Spike^> or rather in the wrong place :D
21:35:22  <^Spike^> fixed! :)
21:35:33  <planetmaker> well, I don't care too much how you actually call it. But I need a name for the repo URL; that can't be changed. The rest can
21:35:38  <^Spike^> note to self: when you add forced https also make the proper redirects good :)
21:36:00  <planetmaker> and citybuilder-gs is already taken :)
21:38:41  <Aphid> towngrowthadjuster-gs?
21:38:53  <planetmaker> sure, if you like that :)
21:43:06  <__ln__> semi-offtopic: does the mankind have the technology to blow up the moon? probably not?
21:44:14  <planetmaker> Aphid, all should be set now
21:44:24  <planetmaker> please verify and complain, if not :)
21:46:33  <Aphid> Well I'mma see if I can get the repository working.
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22:17:37  <Aphid> So as far as I get it, I need to upload an RSA key to the mercurial repository to be able to push to it... where?
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22:55:04  <planetmaker> Aphid, no, not to the repository. Attach it to the issue so that I can upload it to the server
22:55:12  <planetmaker> Aphid, or send me a link
22:55:17  <planetmaker> here on IRC
22:55:41  <planetmaker> sorry, I thought we already had your key
22:55:47  <Aphid> It's in the issue
22:56:14  <Aphid> (The output of the command that prints my public key file I generated for the site. )
22:56:39  <Aphid> It's the stuff after 'ssh-rsa <crypto here>', correct?
22:58:17  <Aphid> #7961 at https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/7961
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23:35:07  <Wolf01> 'night
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