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00:21:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 00:23:04 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:35:42 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:01:54 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:04:46 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest69 01:04:47 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 01:05:23 *** Guest69 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:17:18 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:24:25 <supermop> yo 02:31:20 <Mazur> yo 02:38:36 <supermop> hows t going>/. 02:52:37 <Mazur> Constantly hearing Bowie music in my head, so that's ok 03:02:41 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d822f70.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 03:06:17 *** day [~day@101.165.99.116] has quit [Quit: off to save the cats] 03:06:48 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:09:39 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d821163.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:53:02 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 05:36:46 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:44:28 <NGC3982_> There has been established some kind of standard stating that one must IRC in a train related channel whilst riding a train. 05:44:33 *** NGC3982_ is now known as NGC3982 05:56:01 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 05:56:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p57BD529C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 05:58:30 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 07:02:39 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:49:42 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:51:43 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has joined #openttd 09:39:55 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 11:33:31 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@host53-137-dynamic.9-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 11:33:38 *** day [~day@CPE-58-174-171-20.mjcz1.woo.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 11:34:31 <Wolf01> hi o/ 11:49:19 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest129 11:49:19 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:50:34 *** Guest129 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:21:27 <argoneus> ayy 12:21:33 <argoneus> anyone here has experience embedding V8 into C++? 12:21:39 <argoneus> (by chance) 12:21:53 <Wolf01> turbocharged? 12:22:29 *** urdh [~urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:22:33 <argoneus> no, a javascript meme 12:22:42 <__ln__> Vwhat? 12:22:53 <Eddi|zuHause> with or without manipulated exhaust treatment? 12:22:58 <Wolf01> bah, if a V8 is not turbocharged is for pussies 12:23:18 <argoneus> you guys(((( 12:23:26 <argoneus> then a different question 12:23:44 <argoneus> if you embed lua or something into C++, so basically you create a new context or something that your code lives in 12:24:01 <argoneus> and you have a C++ loop and each iteration it executes some Lua or JS code or whatever 12:24:05 <argoneus> does that imply there's context switching? 12:24:12 <argoneus> so wasting a lot of cpu 12:24:25 <Eddi|zuHause> you cannot influence (or know about) context switching 12:24:51 <argoneus> I'm just wondering if it's more efficient to have the loop itself in lua already or if this works fine 12:25:13 <argoneus> I don't know how to measure it 12:25:26 <Eddi|zuHause> context switching is something your OS does a thousand times before your program hits a context switch it induces by itself 12:26:18 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:26:19 <argoneus> so it probably doesn't matter where I embed my lua code? 12:30:24 <Eddi|zuHause> well, you can still measure "raw" execution speed... 12:31:00 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:27 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:11:36 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 13:17:20 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 13:45:09 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x5d822f70.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 13:58:28 *** day [~day@CPE-58-174-171-20.mjcz1.woo.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:02:29 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 14:15:09 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@172.56.2.45] has joined #openttd 14:17:47 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 14:17:50 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 14:22:19 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-108-6-12-46.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 14:23:14 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@172.56.2.45] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:24:29 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:36:56 <supermop> hello 14:37:00 <__ln__> http://fossforce.com/2016/01/how-well-do-you-know-your-linux-history/ 14:37:04 <__ln__> hello 14:37:23 <peter1138> how the fuck can bowie be dead? 14:37:53 <supermop> been away from news for a few days? 14:38:14 <peter1138> no 14:38:23 <supermop> i was thinking i'd try to get a copy of the last album today to listen to 14:38:44 <supermop> lost the power adaptor to my phono pre amp though 14:39:17 <peter1138> heh, vinyl 14:40:17 <supermop> i'f im going to buy a big square holding a circle, might as well get the 12" one instead of the 5" one 14:40:35 <peter1138> i prefer the digital one 14:40:47 <supermop> then i can look at the cardboard square while listening to the music 14:40:49 <Eddi|zuHause> circles are so last century 14:58:49 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 15:03:08 <peter1138> also my stylus broke 15:05:37 <supermop> i think you can exchange currency for a new one 15:24:24 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 15:35:08 *** urdh [~urdh@00013d7a.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:00:49 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 16:00:52 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 16:12:21 *** kuul13 [~oftc-webi@s5596a68b.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:12:29 *** kuul13 [~oftc-webi@s5596a68b.adsl.online.nl] has quit [] 16:30:39 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:31:12 *** Kurimus [~stabbity@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f816-197.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #openttd 16:34:33 <m1cr0man> Hey lads, whats the benefit of using the 64 bit version over the 32 bit? Other than the fact that it can address more than 2 gigs of mem or whatever 16:37:46 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1886E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:45:20 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 16:46:29 <Alberth> nothing, probably 16:46:54 <Alberth> oh, you don't need a 64 bit operating system to run the 32 bit version :p 16:47:35 <Alberth> and you don't need a 32bit operating system for running the 64 bit version 16:47:49 <m1cr0man> Yeah. There was an old thread from '09 that was talking about the performance effects and they came to the conclusion it was negligable 16:47:54 <Eddi|zuHause> it's been rumored that the 32bit version might be a tiny bit faster 16:47:55 <m1cr0man> im just going to keep it all 32 bit then 16:48:02 <m1cr0man> yeah I saw that too Eddi|zuHause 16:48:18 <m1cr0man> I wonder if I can benchmark it... 16:52:32 *** TheMask96 [martijn@envy.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:52:50 *** TheMask96 [martijn@greed.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 17:03:53 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:07:44 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD0079548703FDC8F69F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:17:50 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B41C.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:26:46 *** michi_cc [michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:27:25 *** michi_cc [~michi@00012723.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:27:28 *** mode/#openttd [+v michi_cc] by ChanServ 17:42:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:42:49 <andythenorth> o/ 17:42:51 <andythenorth> cat is 17:46:29 <Alberth> it must be thinking then 17:52:48 <Wolf01> Alberth: and you can't run 16bit softwares with a 64bit operating system, at least for windows... they removed the WOW16 component 17:53:02 <Wolf01> the 32bit version still has it 17:54:01 <Alberth> what if you statically link all libraries? 17:54:50 <Alberth> but euhm, 16 bit, after 8bit 6502 I just skipped to 32bit M68000 :) 17:54:59 <Wolf01> dunno, but I have a lot of 16bit softwares which i need to run in a virtual machine, or if I'm lucky enough to find a patch for those... 17:55:03 <Alberth> and then 32 bit ARM 17:56:11 <Alberth> I considered 64K segments too messy to get into :p 17:56:45 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:48 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:57:42 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5b6ab.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:03:40 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:07:04 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 18:17:25 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 18:25:42 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 18:39:06 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d011c0b.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27495 /trunk/src/lang (greek.txt lithuanian.txt) (2016-01-13 19:45:36 +0100 ) 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 18:45:47 <DorpsGek> greek: 37 changes by Ferrum 18:45:48 <DorpsGek> lithuanian: 1 change by BlinK_ 19:16:20 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 19:18:43 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 19:18:57 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6B41C.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:11:05 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-178.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:46:47 *** pugi_ [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 20:46:47 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:46:49 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 21:01:09 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 21:15:53 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/BRIX/wtf.png 21:15:55 <V453000> why ? 21:15:58 <V453000> it only replaces sprites 21:16:00 <V453000> nothing else 21:17:32 <andythenorth> everything is hateful 21:17:36 * andythenorth not helpful :P 21:18:31 <V453000> well I found this but that doesnt mean I know anything more XD https://docs.openttd.org/newgrf_8cpp_source.html#l07780 21:18:54 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:20:27 <Rubidium> V453000: where's the source? 21:20:42 <frosch123> how do you replace the sprites? 21:21:51 <V453000> I think this should be the source https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/brix/repository/changes/BRIX.nml 21:22:06 <V453000> well, I know it is the one, but I believe it is pretty much the same to what I am using now 21:22:20 <V453000> the only thing I added is replacenew blocks ... commented those out locally, those do not cause wtf. 21:22:42 <V453000> everything should be only replace and alternative_sprites to it 21:23:56 <V453000> it is the rocky tileset thing 21:24:07 <V453000> //second_rocky_tileset = 1; 21:24:34 <V453000> ............... should that be there? I remember frosch123 told me to add that to RAWR at some point 21:26:06 <frosch123> true, it is considered unsafe 21:26:20 <frosch123> and it is needed to enable the second rock thing 21:29:47 <V453000> so a base set cannot use it? 21:30:17 <frosch123> it may be the first and only reasonably safe use of assigning a global setting in a grf :) 21:30:56 <frosch123> it's not absolute safe, kind of grey area 21:31:09 <V453000> just tell me if base sets can use it, if not, then BRIX will not use it either 21:31:19 <V453000> I want to turn it into a base set eventually 21:31:43 <frosch123> the silly thing is, the "safe" check is actually skipped for the base grf 21:31:50 <frosch123> that's wyh ogfx can define rivers 21:31:55 <frosch123> while they are not safe :p 21:32:07 *** Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> weber.oftc.net quits: Antheus, _dp_, Supercheese, Pulec, @Belugas, theholyduck, innocenat, +tokai, OsteHovel, Eddi|zuHause 21:32:17 <V453000> ok, I understand less now XD 21:32:23 <frosch123> i think i'll just define it as safe 21:33:04 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:33:46 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27496 /trunk/bin/baseset (8 files) (2016-01-13 22:33:40 +0100 ) 21:33:47 <DorpsGek> -Update: Baseset translations 21:33:58 <V453000> \o/ 21:34:35 <frosch123> hmm, it's ages since i done nfo 21:34:49 *** Netsplit over, joins: +tokai, Supercheese, Eddi|zuHause, @Belugas, OsteHovel, Pulec, theholyduck, innocenat, Antheus, _dp_ 21:35:49 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 21:37:13 <andythenorth> count the bytes 21:39:20 <Mazur> Or bite the countess? 21:41:09 <Mazur> I know which one's more fun. 21:43:23 <V453000> frosch123: so does it mean a base set can use it now? 21:43:28 <V453000> now/with next release 21:55:56 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27497 trunk/src/newgrf.cpp (2016-01-13 22:55:50 +0100 ) 21:55:57 <DorpsGek> -Change: [NewGRF] Allow static NewGRF to enable the second rocky tile set. 21:56:05 <frosch123> try again tomorrow 21:56:32 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:56:34 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 21:58:40 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@82.210.156.68] has quit [] 22:02:37 *** iostat [~iostat@p2003006A6C5EDD0079548703FDC8F69F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: iostat] 22:06:29 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db5b6ab.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:29:31 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 22:33:14 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 23:04:13 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d011c0b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 23:06:44 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d082ce0.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 23:18:17 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1886E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20:12 *** JezK [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 23:53:14 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:53:46 *** glevans2 [~glevans2@68-116-139-65.dhcp.ftwo.tx.charter.com] has joined #openttd 23:58:27 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-044-097.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:59:46 *** day [~day@a82-158.nat.uq.edu.au] has joined #openttd