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FIRS economies? 15:07:30 <andythenorth> or is that wrong? 15:07:47 <andythenorth> whereâs Eddi|zuHause when I need him? :) 15:08:26 <Eddi|zuHause> not "wrong", but "unnecessary", i think 15:09:01 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@119.94.104.228] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:10:06 <andythenorth> probably constraining also 15:10:35 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #openttd 15:17:05 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:17:08 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 15:20:20 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 15:20:23 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:20:51 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-174.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 15:21:18 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 15:23:27 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 15:23:40 <Alberth> hi hi 15:23:53 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:14:03 *** _johannes 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[Clockworke@201-66-173-80.paemt701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:52 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-174.cbu.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:10:37 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db69583.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 17:23:45 <Eddi|zuHause> "a friends friend"... sure... 17:29:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6CD20.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 17:38:05 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1967B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:49:38 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:41 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 17:59:14 *** FR^2 [~frquadrat@2001:41d0:1:f924::1] has quit [Quit: quit] 18:00:12 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@dns25-174.cbu.edu] has joined #openttd 18:03:49 <andythenorth> have a crash log https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pvmoh97km 18:03:51 <andythenorth> itâs free 18:04:47 <andythenorth> Iâve seen this before, happens in the industry chain window, when selecting the âselect industryâ dropdown 18:05:00 <andythenorth> not reproducible reliably 18:07:06 <Eddi|zuHause> try reproducing it in an unmodified version, and provide a crash dump? 18:09:01 <Alberth> looks scrollbar-ish ? capacity at least sounds related, didn't check the line number 18:10:16 <andythenorth> itâs triggered by mouse event on the dropdown, at least, thatâs the action I perform 18:10:38 <andythenorth> yeah, itâs a patched OpenTTD, I removed the tropic landscape generator in favour of temperate 18:11:22 <Alberth> capacity == 0 would also trigger it, empty list or so? 18:12:03 <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: it's probably not your modification that's causing it, but providing a crash dump only really helps if the other person has the exact same code. 18:12:26 <Eddi|zuHause> also, operating system... 18:12:58 <andythenorth> understood, but I think itâs low chance of reproduction anyway :P 18:15:19 *** Sheogorath [~madgod@0001f8ef.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Now get out of here before I change my mind....or my mind 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this way is the top left corner of the screen. you cannot "center" the screen since you don't know the resolution of the user 22:20:11 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:6cf3:461f:9357:d093] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:26:09 *** _johannes [~johannes@port-92-203-195-25.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:26:39 <argoneus> have you guys heart about vulkan 22:37:16 <Eddi|zuHause> you mean the thing that is all over the internet getting everybody hyped? 22:37:23 <Eddi|zuHause> no, never heard of that. 22:45:42 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1967B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:57 *** keoz [~keikoz@pha75-1-81-57-54-15.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: keoz] 22:52:38 *** Wormnest_ [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:00:30 <_dp_> hm, I'll try it, ty 23:00:49 <_dp_> corner is kinda weird thing to save though imo 23:02:35 <Eddi|zuHause> it's just what it always was, and there was never enough reason to change 23:10:01 <_dp_> I'd assume that people are usually looking at center of the screen not corner 23:10:03 *** lobster [~mccrabbym@145.131.157.180] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:10:37 <argoneus> heard* 23:13:36 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: sure, but realize that a) when the game was released 20 years ago, it came only in one resolution, and b) most individual people only play with the same resolution, so they hardly ever notice the system behind it 23:14:15 <Eddi|zuHause> there are two main cases where it comes up: 1) the title screen competitions, and 2) making a scenario where the introduction screen matters 23:14:53 <Eddi|zuHause> an example for 2) is the USA scenario, which starts out in the sea off the east coast, with instructions to scroll west 23:15:37 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 23:17:29 <_dp_> I was thinking of centering players on their town in cb 23:18:00 <_dp_> still can assume that they have at least 1000x750 or smth but centering would be better 23:18:07 <Eddi|zuHause> that's not really going to work 23:19:02 <_dp_> what do you mean? 23:19:15 <Eddi|zuHause> you'd have to intercept the join package, and quickly scroll to the location before the network savegame gets made 23:19:43 <_dp_> Ye, no big deal 23:19:53 <_dp_> intercepting enough packets already :p 23:20:16 <_dp_> also can patch saving code 23:20:18 <Eddi|zuHause> then assume a minimum resolution of 640x480 23:22:29 <_dp_> if I center it for 1000x750 it will still be on screen for 640x480 so that's fine 23:24:52 <_dp_> there is another issue though 23:25:56 <_dp_> was thinking of automatically claiming some town when player starts company, but that wouldn't work if he joins as spectator first 23:27:37 <Eddi|zuHause> you could react to the company creation packet then? 23:28:01 <Eddi|zuHause> there is definitely an interface for presenting dialog boxes 23:28:29 <_dp_> but can't scroll viewport since savegame is already loaded 23:28:38 <_dp_> can dialog box scroll view? 23:29:06 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know. you could place the HQ and make the player click the "view HQ" button? 23:29:18 <Eddi|zuHause> there might be something more specific about this that i don't know 23:29:18 <_dp_> btw, is there a way to show standard error window? that small read one 23:29:38 <Eddi|zuHause> no idea 23:30:25 <_dp_> haha, main cause I'm doing it is for players that don't know where "place hq" button is, and "view hq" is the same one xD 23:30:50 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: tried checking how the tutorial script does it? 23:31:20 <_dp_> no, didn't even know there is such script) 23:31:32 <_dp_> learned to play in 1995 xD 23:34:46 <_dp_> hm, how to select script from online content? I only see local ones 23:35:42 <Eddi|zuHause> what do you mean? 23:36:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6DA41.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 23:36:30 <_dp_> trying to crate game with tutorial gs, in gs configuration window from main menu I can only select local gs 23:36:57 <_dp_> even though there is "check online content" button I don't see any way to select script I downloaded there %) 23:41:21 <_dp_> ah, it's just tutorial gs, others do appear in list 23:41:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6DA41.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:49 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:42:37 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 23:43:44 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, yes. it's hidden and can be only accessed if you download the scenario associated with it 23:44:44 *** lobster [~mccrabbym@145.131.157.180] has joined #openttd 23:44:49 <_dp_> yeah, figured that much, now trying to locate where did it put scenario %) 23:45:47 <_dp_> it desperately needs a tutorial on how to run this tutorial xD 23:49:22 <_dp_> for some reason had to restart openttd for it to show up in file tree 23:54:10 <Eddi|zuHause> you should open a report for all of these interface issues :ÃŒ 23:54:12 <Eddi|zuHause> :p 23:56:12 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db69583.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 23:58:52 <_dp_> I lost my faith in those kind of issues :p