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00:00:45 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has quit [Quit: :q!] 00:01:58 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6DA41.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:04:55 <_dp_> tutorial does it with GSViewport.ScrollTo and ofc it can't be used in multiplayer 00:10:55 <_dp_> considering making a patch to add smth like GSViewport.ScrollCompanyTo 00:12:56 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 00:14:41 <supermop> yellow path signals has the (side?) effect of causing trains to crawl at 40kmh in the block before a station stop 00:14:57 <supermop> even if that block is miles of single track 00:21:29 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: you can't scroll a company's view, as there may be multiple people in the same company 00:22:17 <_dp_> why not scroll them all? 00:22:18 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: yes, i meant to make a post about my thoughts on that patch, but i think i got distracted 00:22:51 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: no, scrolling is a client thing, not a company thing 00:23:04 <supermop> i guess i'd like a 3 aspect signal that doesn't look so far ahead, but in this case that wouldn't help 00:23:50 <supermop> i guess you'd need a non-path path signal, that says "try not to wait here, but slow down if i am yellow" 00:23:56 <_dp_> so what? scroll all clients that are in said company 00:24:07 <_dp_> ofc will need to add network command for that to work 00:24:11 <supermop> or some other means of signalling single track effectively 00:24:24 <Eddi|zuHause> _dp_: if you want to do that, you can just loop over all clients in the company 00:24:51 <_dp_> it doesn't really matter for my case actually 00:25:06 <_dp_> I just couldn't think of any gs function that works with clients 00:25:23 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 00:31:00 <_dp_> all gs api revolves around companies, can't see any client at all 00:33:09 <supermop> this also discourages 'nicer' station throats, as a pair of switches taking up 3 tiles vs an X taking up 1 leads to much longer at 40kmh 00:36:48 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4585:f300:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:38:38 *** debdog [~debdog@HSI-KBW-091-089-090-125.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #openttd 00:46:36 <supermop> for now i'm going to change single yellow speed to 80kmh 00:47:01 <supermop> i trust the instant brakes of my ottd trains 00:47:39 <_dp_> I didn't get those yellow signals at all. It's train deceleration that's broken, not signals. 00:48:17 <_dp_> may be somewhat helpful in few cases but superfluous in all other 00:51:21 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:51:35 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:52:30 <_dp_> well, signals aren't very realistic either, but that's part of game design 01:06:06 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 01:07:12 *** day [~day@CPE-60-226-8-38.wrcz1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:07:29 *** day [~day@CPE-60-226-8-38.wrcz1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 01:11:52 <supermop> well the extra lights look pretty 01:15:25 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:23:01 *** debdog [~debdog@HSI-KBW-091-089-090-125.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:28:48 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:36:50 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:36:51 *** Snail_ [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:42:19 <Eddi|zuHause> have you ever read through old forum topics, and thought "hey, that sounds like something i would write", and then you look over and see "hey, i DID write that" 01:44:03 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 01:44:54 <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: i have put down my thoughts here if you want to have a look http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1164301#p1164301 01:47:39 <supermop> sounds good 01:48:18 <supermop> i guess it requires his SPAD model for decelleration as well? 01:48:33 <supermop> or a choice of deceleration models? 01:48:43 <Eddi|zuHause> not really 01:49:33 <Eddi|zuHause> the braking distance would just be used as an estimation, an emergency brake would still get the train to stop faster 01:51:54 <Eddi|zuHause> i think SPAD is taking the simulation too far, i would not play with that 01:53:22 <supermop> it would be fun now and then 01:54:13 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it would not. 01:54:28 <Eddi|zuHause> i would disable train crashes completely, if i could. 01:56:07 <Eddi|zuHause> turn crashes into breakdowns. keep the effect on ratings 02:08:20 <supermop> yeah, every crash being a total write-off is frustrating 02:26:42 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 02:26:45 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 03:11:40 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d8217b3.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 03:18:37 *** Biolunar_ [Biolunar@x4d02555b.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:22:13 *** day [~day@CPE-60-226-8-38.wrcz1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:22:50 *** day [~day@CPE-60-226-8-38.wrcz1.cha.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 03:32:13 *** glx 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17:06:03 <Alberth> just ^C will work if you started it from the command line 17:06:39 <Alberth> another option is to suspend the job, and then kill it 17:07:03 <Alberth> a third option is to log in again with another terminal and kill the process from there 17:07:56 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C213300F576CAC854AFD8CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:11:37 <qwebirc26667> had to kill it from a 2nd terminal, cheers 17:14:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 17:14:49 <andythenorth> o/ 17:14:53 <andythenorth> African Horse 17:15:57 <Alberth> steamy? 17:20:15 *** qwebirc26667 [~oftc-webi@h-72-9.a163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 17:21:25 <andythenorth> needs a roster name 17:27:31 <Alberth> Steam Toys :p 17:28:27 <Alberth> s/:FIRS/:EVERYTHING/ ? 17:29:07 <Alberth> Desert country 17:29:32 <Alberth> Mineral country 17:31:19 <Alberth> /me confuses economies with rosters :( 17:32:08 <andythenorth> ha :) 17:32:10 <andythenorth> 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19:10:57 <Wolf01> do trains in US travel both sides on double tracks as they want? I'm watching a video and the train is one time on the left track, one time in the right track... one time there are 2 trains going in the same direction in both tracks 19:14:13 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:17:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know about america, but in germany that is possible if the track/signalling is specifically prepared for it 19:18:56 <frosch123> doesn't it also depend on speed and distance between the tracks? 19:20:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think so 19:20:21 <Eddi|zuHause> that may influence whether trains may meet in a tunnel 19:20:28 <frosch123> vehicles cannot drive fast too close to each other 19:20:47 <frosch123> the air movement pulls them close to each other 19:20:51 <Eddi|zuHause> but that also applies to trains going in different direction 19:21:15 <frosch123> as far as i know that pulls them away from each other 19:21:16 <Eddi|zuHause> probably even more so, as the relative speed difference counts 19:22:19 <V453000> trains suck, everybody hates trains anyway 19:22:27 <V453000> ships is where stuff is at 19:28:00 <andythenorth> not 19:31:32 <V453000> sup andy, wat new 19:32:54 <andythenorth> inventing horse 19:32:56 <andythenorth> new roster 19:33:00 <V453000> xd 19:33:04 <V453000> nice 19:33:06 <V453000> tranez 19:33:56 <andythenorth> Wolf01: lots of US track is signalled bi-directional 19:34:03 <andythenorth> or not signalled at all, but uses centralised control / warrants / track authority 19:34:23 *** _johannes [~johannes@port-92-203-199-104.dynamic.qsc.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 19:34:36 <andythenorth> or the video might be showing you passing loops 19:34:41 <V453000> andythenorth: what new horse ideas? 19:34:56 <andythenorth> no gameplay ideas, just Africa-ish trains 19:35:00 <andythenorth> to go with Africa-ish FIRS 19:35:23 <V453000> =[ 19:40:06 <V453000> /me would prefer gameplay ideas over negro technologyez :P 19:42:17 <andythenorth> donât have any 19:42:18 <andythenorth> just trains 19:48:37 <Rubidium> Wolf01: in the Netherlands it's technically possible on almost all but a few sections of track to drive against the standard driving direction, although it usually only happens in rare cases that they run against the default direction 19:49:06 <Rubidium> what I have seen, on a section with 5 tracks next to eachother that 3 trains were driving in the same direction almost next to eachother 19:53:44 *** Wolf03 [~wolf01@host220-239-dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #openttd 19:53:44 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest4463 19:53:44 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 19:54:12 <Rubidium> in any case all double track routes in the Netherlands are effectively too busy to even allow driving the "wrong" way for a significant distance 19:58:53 *** Guest4463 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:59:23 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:00:41 <argoneus> can anyone here into economics? 20:00:46 <argoneus> probably not very related to trains 20:01:00 <argoneus> I'm wondering how fiat money like gbp or dollar initially got their value 20:01:07 <argoneus> seems like I have to get a degree just to understand this 20:02:54 <frosch123> how did bread initially get a price? 20:05:18 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: the value, of course, got taken out of thin air. the tricky part is making other people believe it has that value 20:05:55 <argoneus> I just find it hard to believe that people went 20:06:07 <argoneus> "well we have this british pound and you can buy more for it than with 1 dollar" 20:06:11 <argoneus> and americans just went "ok nice" 20:06:19 <argoneus> frosch123: I have no idea 20:06:25 <argoneus> haggling probably 20:06:35 <argoneus> whoever was selling it gave it a value 20:07:26 <ckraniak> I believe the general idea is that the availability of currency X sets its value 20:07:44 <ckraniak> But I'm not an economist 20:08:03 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: if you mean historically, the value of a coin was mostly driven by its silver/gold content 20:08:09 <frosch123> argoneus: isn't it weird that water costs about 2⬠per m³ in europe, while it is way more expensive in israel? 20:08:15 <Eddi|zuHause> if you made a bigger or purer coin, it was worth more 20:08:22 <argoneus> Eddi|zuHause: yeah that's true 20:08:23 <frosch123> why don't you just buy water in europe and sell it in israel? 20:08:26 <argoneus> there's no gold standard anymore 20:08:40 <argoneus> frosch123: don't people do that though? 20:08:48 <argoneus> exporting stuff they already produce just to buy it cheaper from foreign countries 20:08:52 <argoneus> and make a profit 20:09:04 <frosch123> yeah, but what do you do with all she shekels? 20:09:17 <frosch123> can you buy water here for shekels? 20:09:18 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: if you mean more modern, there were some conferences about "this is the exchange rate that we want, we're tweaking wheels here or there to keep it that way" 20:09:30 <argoneus> oh, like that 20:10:49 <argoneus> frosch123: if you exchange them back 20:10:52 <argoneus> you can still make a profit though 20:10:56 <argoneus> or a loss 20:11:00 <argoneus> you never break even 20:11:07 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: for example the swiss national bank had an expensive program to keep the EUR:SFR rate within certain limits 20:11:31 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: they cancelled that suddenly about a year ago, which made the rate immediately explode 20:12:48 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: in modern times, exchange rates are mostly defined by more people buying or selling 20:13:25 <andythenorth> ha ha 20:13:26 <andythenorth> money 20:14:01 <andythenorth> one of the most awesome collective delusions 20:14:10 <andythenorth> and it works too 20:14:15 <argoneus> how does something like bitcoins get its value then? 20:14:23 <argoneus> one day you can barelly buy a pizza with it 20:14:28 <argoneus> and suddenly you can buy a car 20:14:32 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: by people buying or selling them. 20:14:46 <argoneus> so if demand for bitcoins spikes 20:14:49 <argoneus> then their price spikes too? 20:15:01 <andythenorth> notionally a bitcoin was supposed to be worth at least the computing cost of mining it 20:15:04 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: whenever there is viral news about bitcoin, the price goes through the roof because loads of people buy it 20:15:13 <argoneus> ..hold on 20:15:17 <argoneus> so if I was some super rich oil sheikh 20:15:25 <argoneus> what stops me from buying tons of bitcoins at X value 20:15:29 <argoneus> and when it spikes sell them for X+Y 20:15:31 <argoneus> ? 20:15:37 <argoneus> like, create my own demand 20:15:49 <Eddi|zuHause> nothing? that's how you get insanely rich or insanely poor at the stock market 20:16:08 <argoneus> oh, right 20:16:12 <argoneus> it's this thing called investing 20:16:12 <andythenorth> thatâs how it works 20:16:23 <frosch123> no, it's called speculation 20:16:40 <frosch123> investment is, if you think it makes money on its own 20:16:51 <argoneus> isn't speculation a bit different? 20:16:53 <frosch123> speculation is, if you think you can sell it later for a better price 20:16:55 <argoneus> I buy some stocks expecting them to spike 20:17:05 <argoneus> I don't make them spike myself by creating absurd demand from day to day 20:17:19 <argoneus> or do I still have it wrong 20:17:21 <Eddi|zuHause> no, investment is if you buy stocks expecting them to naturally grow 20:17:36 <Eddi|zuHause> speculation is when you buy stocks expecting them to fluctuate 20:18:16 <Eddi|zuHause> argoneus: at usual stock markets, there are measures in place to prevent hugely spiking values to be taken off trades 20:18:25 <Eddi|zuHause> errr 20:18:31 <Eddi|zuHause> too many negatives 20:18:53 <andythenorth> what is speculative investment? 20:18:56 <andythenorth> o_O 20:20:32 <Eddi|zuHause> the key difference is that the investment part gets pumped back into "the economy", whereas the speculative part is purely circulating within this stock bubble 20:21:49 <argoneus> this is too complex for me 20:22:16 <Eddi|zuHause> there was this stock market in chicago for agriculture goods 20:22:45 <Eddi|zuHause> and at some point they split apart the trading between people who were actually trying to buy cargo, and the people who just wanted to speculate 20:22:57 <Eddi|zuHause> and the speculating part was orders of magnitude higher volume 20:23:04 <argoneus> lol 20:24:43 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 20:25:59 <andythenorth> pork belly futures 20:33:50 *** srhnsn [~srhnsn@p2003006A6C213300F576CAC854AFD8CD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: srhnsn] 20:37:46 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 20:59:08 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:07:16 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:20:09 *** roidal [~roland@194-152-175-13.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 21:21:25 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:30:16 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 21:37:01 <supermop> board of trade 21:37:22 <supermop> it's a commodities market 21:48:18 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 21:55:53 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1968E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:03:58 *** frosch123 [~frosch@x4d01189c.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:10:55 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-148-51-74.gdfw1.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 22:12:13 *** glx_ [~glx@2a01:e35:2f59:c7c0:1fb:d12a:b94e:ea92] has joined #openttd 22:12:13 *** glx is now known as Guest4488 22:12:13 *** glx_ is now known as glx 22:15:35 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-250-122.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:18:32 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-250-122.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 22:18:39 *** Guest4488 [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:37:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6C3E7.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 22:40:02 *** gelignite [~gelignite@f048238193.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 22:42:30 <Wolf01> 'night 22:42:33 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 22:43:24 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6C3E7.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:44:27 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 22:47:25 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 22:51:12 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 22:58:32 *** Tharbakim [~Tharbakim@S0106b8a38656fe2c.vf.shawcable.net] has joined #openttd 23:11:44 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:16:18 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 23:16:21 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 23:22:01 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 23:22:30 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 23:23:11 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:47:32 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@72.1.195.4] has joined #openttd 23:47:35 <drac_boy> hi 23:49:48 <drac_boy> got a bit unusual question for you ... even although it wouldn't do much difference to a grf locomotive I'm still curious if blowing nitrogen dioxide instead of oxygen into a firebox would even result in any noticeable difference or not much? 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