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00:01:07 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 00:05:45 *** Ram-Z [~Ram-Z@rmz.io] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in] 00:06:48 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:07:46 *** Ram-Z [~Ram-Z@rmz.io] has joined #openttd 00:08:54 *** Tirili [~Unknown@HSI-KBW-082-212-030-207.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #openttd 00:11:21 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- *I* use it, so it must be good!] 00:13:52 *** Tirili [~Unknown@HSI-KBW-082-212-030-207.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit [] 00:45:27 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 00:50:04 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@50-37-80-64.mscw.id.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 00:50:46 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:54:34 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 00:59:04 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:01:02 *** Clockworker__ [~Clockwork@201-41-26-206.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 01:08:21 *** Clockworker_ [~Clockwork@189-73-185-101.paemt702.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:20:32 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 01:30:03 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:32:41 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 01:44:05 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 02:38:21 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:50:16 *** norro_ [~quassel@vm-1-2.k023.de] has joined #openttd 02:50:16 *** norro [~quassel@vm-1-2.k023.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:03:43 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:12:39 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@201-41-26-206.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 03:12:39 *** Clockworker__ [~Clockwork@201-41-26-206.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:20:34 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a33e:4100:f1df:1bf9:c99f:9857] has joined #openttd 03:30:21 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 03:30:24 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 03:37:06 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:02:47 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:13:08 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:27:07 *** Ttech [~ttech@00014919.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Este é o fim.] 04:35:27 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 04:36:06 *** Ttech [~ttech@is.in.the.madhacker.biz] has joined #openttd 04:57:45 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 05:12:39 <Flygon> "Can only be positioned near edges of map" 05:12:46 * Flygon is playing on an ISLAND 05:14:24 <Flygon> FML 05:14:46 <Supercheese> refinery? 05:14:53 <Flygon> There is ONE Refinery left on the map 05:14:59 <Flygon> And while it will never die 05:15:16 <Flygon> It's in a crap location 05:15:28 <Supercheese> there should be a game setting for that 05:15:55 <Supercheese> https://wiki.openttd.org/Advanced_Settings/Economy#Max_distance_from_edge_for_Oil_Refineries 05:16:29 <Flygon> It's set to 48 05:16:50 <Flygon> But the issue is 05:17:07 <Flygon> There's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more than 48 tiles between the Coast and the edge 05:17:23 <Supercheese> I have no idea why there even is that limit 05:17:29 <Supercheese> refineries should be wherever 05:17:34 <Supercheese> map edge be damned 05:17:38 <Flygon> It's suppose to create a challenge 05:17:52 <Flygon> Time to Magic Bulldozer the last one, and see if that lets me relocate it 05:17:59 <Flygon> Like an AoE Town Centre :U 05:18:36 <Flygon> Nope 05:18:52 * Flygon reloads from the .sav >_> 05:19:13 <Flygon> Looks like I'll have to improv 05:19:17 <Flygon> Playing the Iceland Map 05:19:25 <Flygon> The Refinery is in the middle of NOWHERE 05:19:31 <Flygon> Nowhere near ANYTHING 05:19:52 <Flygon> So I'll prolly run 48-64 tile trains to get the most 'efficiency' (if this is actually efficient) from this >_> 05:20:21 <Flygon> Basically, feed smaller loads into the really long load 05:20:28 <Flygon> And then haul that long load to the refiery :U 05:22:09 <Flygon> Refinery, rater 05:22:43 <Flygon> Either way, I need to wait for the UP Big Boy to be invented 05:22:56 <Flygon> Because if there's any use for that loco 05:23:08 <Flygon> It's double heading them for 40+ tile loads >_> 05:23:21 <Flygon> (yes, having JUST one stalls) 05:24:05 <Flygon> The REAL problem is signalling 05:24:17 <Flygon> And integration into the existing network 05:24:51 <Flygon> Considering the things get so long, they will span 6 stations at a time (even if going through bypass tracks)... but building a separate exclusive network doesn't look cool >_> 05:27:47 <Supercheese> Double-heading Big Boys, whew 05:27:51 <Supercheese> must be one hell of a train 05:28:27 <Supercheese> when in desperate need of high-throughput though, the end-all solution is ships 05:28:39 <Supercheese> ships have effectively infinite capacity, just keep building more and more of them 05:28:49 <Supercheese> they'll just noclip through each other 05:29:04 <Flygon> Certainly 05:29:13 <Flygon> But where's the cool factor in that? :3 05:29:19 <Flygon> Hmm 05:29:30 <Flygon> Building my first 'deposit' station's already hit problems 05:29:38 <Flygon> 20 tiles max length due to a mountain in the way 05:30:04 <Flygon> I'd rather 24 to be easily 'divisable' into 48 <_> 05:32:01 <Supercheese> If you want Cool Factor, transport it all by Zeppelin 05:32:12 <Supercheese> build a dozen air stations 05:32:23 <Flygon> ... 05:32:30 * Flygon headdesk xDxD 05:32:33 <Flygon> Laughing pretty hard irl 05:32:47 <Flygon> I like the idea, but I don't think it'd work in practice xP 05:32:57 <Supercheese> Don't tempt me 05:33:04 <Flygon> I might just go for a 12 tile station, that's fed into by 4-6 tile trains 05:33:09 <Supercheese> Skytrains 05:33:10 <Flygon> That then feeds into a 48 tile station 05:33:28 <Flygon> In seriousness, Airship trains, I'm sure, could work IRL <_> 05:33:46 <Flygon> They just wouldn't be compatible with Airports 05:38:59 <Flygon> Now to create a 48 tile long station with a Gravity Assist Patented Launch Ramp :B 05:44:06 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 05:54:31 <Flygon> Real issue is 05:54:41 <Flygon> I don't have Big Boys yet... or any real alts. 05:55:03 <Flygon> But the Oil Wells will die if I don't use them 05:55:24 <Flygon> Time to chain 6-8 steam locos together, and hope I hit at least 50km/h 05:56:21 <Supercheese> you could use the Invisible Power Booster if you have that grf installed 05:56:29 <Flygon> Yeeaaaah, true 05:56:34 <Flygon> But it feels a bit like cheating 05:56:36 <sim-al2> 2cc trainset? 05:56:43 <Supercheese> http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?t=56672 05:56:45 <Flygon> (says the guy using Magic Bulldozer) 05:56:57 <Flygon> sim-al2: Yeah 05:57:07 <Flygon> 1918 05:57:20 <Flygon> Best option atm is the SBB C5/6 05:57:36 <Supercheese> no Garratts or something? 05:57:40 <Flygon> aka. the thing that goes slow as all hell, but WILL haul anything.... under 20 tiles long 05:57:42 <sim-al2> Yeah, Big Boy arrives in 1941... 05:58:00 <Flygon> Yeah 05:58:10 <Flygon> I couldn't find a list for the current NML ver on Baanas 05:58:12 <Flygon> Bananas* 05:58:21 <sim-al2> Milwaukee EP2 arrives in 1919, has 4400hp 05:58:24 <Flygon> When does the AT&SF one arrive? 05:58:31 <Flygon> Yeah, but the Bipolar is Electric 05:58:44 <sim-al2> ATSF 5000 is 1930 05:58:50 <Flygon> Damn 05:58:59 <Flygon> Looks like Switzerland better hold up 05:59:21 <Flygon> (I WOULD use the Bipolar... if it wasn't going through raw wilderness. It looks too weird to have your longest line be electric in 1919) 05:59:37 <sim-al2> Milwaukee Road was literally that though 05:59:39 <Flygon> sim-al2: Got a link to the updated list? 05:59:43 <Flygon> Haha, true 05:59:44 <sim-al2> Rocky Mountain division 05:59:57 <Flygon> I will prolly use the Bipolar for Passenger, tho 06:00:13 <Supercheese> Flygon: Just save, use the date-cheat to skip ahead a few, and check which engines appear :P 06:00:14 <sim-al2> Although the Coast Divsion wasn't exactly urban either 06:00:19 <Flygon> Shorter distance, but still way long 06:00:28 <Flygon> Supercheese: I... er... good point 06:01:14 <sim-al2> If you want to wait until 1922 or so, the E-28 is pretty good, 2250hp, still electric though 06:01:39 <Flygon> Yeah, I'm sticking with Steam/Diesel for this line until Electric feels more.... 06:01:40 <Flygon> Natural 06:01:49 <Flygon> aka. when I've built up everything that IS along the route 06:01:59 <sim-al2> 1924 for the GWR 4900, 1750hp, steamer 06:02:19 <sim-al2> Not much going on until 1930 06:02:41 <Flygon> Yeah 06:02:49 <Flygon> What's the kn rating on the GWR? 06:03:05 <sim-al2> 123 06:03:19 <Flygon> Damn 06:03:28 <Flygon> I think I'll stick with the SBB C5/6 xP 06:03:34 <Flygon> Around 220kn per loco 06:03:44 <sim-al2> Dat speed rating 06:03:55 <Flygon> Yeah, but at least it can climb a hill 06:08:01 <sim-al2> I have to wonder why there's gondolas and Self-discharging hoppers, since the latter weight a few tons more and don't seem to have a loading speed advantag 06:08:23 * Flygon shrug 06:08:40 <Flygon> btw, half the reason high kn is desired 06:08:54 <Flygon> Is due to the strong possibility of stopping mid-line for other traffic mergig 06:08:57 <Flygon> merging* 06:09:04 <Flygon> Also the other reason Big Boys are wanted... 06:09:12 <Flygon> That 128km/h is a godsend, with the right wagons 07:27:49 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1879C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:41:15 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 07:43:31 *** kubast2 [~kubast2@217.153.119.86] has joined #openttd 08:09:42 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-195-191.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au] has quit [] 08:24:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:26:04 <andythenorth> o/ 08:28:09 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1879C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29:35 <V453000> yo 08:32:20 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 08:36:28 <andythenorth> whatâs left for FIRS v2? 08:36:33 <andythenorth> where is the trello? 08:37:06 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46.239.220.130] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38:19 *** Stimrol [~Stimrol@46.239.220.130] has joined #openttd 08:38:19 <V453000> idk I am in full factorio mode atm 08:41:12 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:42:28 <Supercheese> aren't we all 08:43:41 * andythenorth not so much 08:43:53 <andythenorth> I played 08:43:56 <andythenorth> the demo 08:44:38 * andythenorth might try it again after V453000 fixes the terrain :P 08:44:46 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 08:44:50 <V453000> what wrong with the terrain? 08:44:55 <andythenorth> one word 08:44:59 <andythenorth> âlocomotion" 08:45:21 <V453000> idk I think our terrain is way nicer 08:45:26 <V453000> like levels nicer 08:45:55 <V453000> I never played locomotion but from screenshots it looks very shitty 08:46:14 <V453000> mostly cause it is done the same way as openttd 08:46:20 <V453000> 1 sprite per hill angl 08:46:21 <V453000> e 08:46:34 <V453000> we have quite awesome randomizer which makes it look much more natural 08:46:45 <V453000> the terrain will get some love, but not for 0.13 08:47:44 *** kubast2 [~kubast2@217.153.119.86] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:47:46 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 08:51:19 *** yorick_ [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has joined #openttd 08:56:46 *** yorick [~yorick@ip51cd0513.speed.planet.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 09:33:28 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 09:34:34 <andythenorth> @seen frosch123 09:34:34 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: frosch123 was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 2 days, 16 hours, 18 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <frosch123> the build station gui will tell you 09:50:21 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 09:55:38 <andythenorth> V453000: do I need to fix these buildings? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7684/vineyard_1.png 09:55:45 <andythenorth> before v2 release? 09:57:05 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 09:58:54 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:05:44 *** oskari89 [oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [] 10:16:09 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:18:43 * andythenorth needs a better name for âFIRSâ economy 10:18:49 <andythenorth> âFIRS Extremeâ? 10:18:52 <andythenorth> âExtremeâ? 10:18:59 <andythenorth> âFIRS Maxâ? 10:20:56 <V453000> I'd say they look ultra shit yes 10:21:09 <V453000> FIRS WTF 10:22:21 <andythenorth> itâs not really WTF though :P 10:22:29 <andythenorth> FIRS ultra-mega-realism-overkill 10:22:57 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4db6bd03.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 10:24:15 <andythenorth> WTF would be if I started inventing things, instead of making a newgrf by reading wikipedia 10:29:21 <Flygon> "Can't build station here.... station too far spread out" 10:29:51 <Flygon> Oh goodie 10:29:56 <Flygon> 64 tiles IS enough 10:30:11 <Flygon> #megastationproblems 10:47:38 <andythenorth> action 14 eh? 10:51:04 <Flygon> Action 14? 10:52:31 * andythenorth is talking aloud 10:52:38 <andythenorth> newgrf problem 10:56:16 <V453000> wikifirs? 10:58:40 <andythenorth> nice suggestion 10:58:56 <Flygon> Oh man 10:59:02 <Flygon> I read that as Wikifur for a second there 10:59:11 <Flygon> And oh boy that's completely different to #OpenTTD 10:59:28 * andythenorth called it âExtreme' 10:59:35 <andythenorth> will see what players think of that :P 10:59:54 * andythenorth is shocked and appalled that daylength patch makes things go slower 10:59:56 <andythenorth> also 11:03:38 <andythenorth> âEach economy provides a different combination of cargos and industries.{}{}For players who want simple gameplay, 'Basic' economies contain fewer industries and cargos than other FIRS economies.{}{}The FIRS website provides much more information about each economy.â 11:04:06 <Flygon> I wonder if 1,521hp is enough to haul 1,156 tonnes. <_> 11:05:46 <andythenorth> how much hill? 11:05:56 <Flygon> Too much 11:06:03 <andythenorth> moar 11:06:10 <Flygon> srsly tho 11:06:16 <Flygon> Only one segment of slope... but 11:06:43 <Flygon> It's tw 6% inclines consecutively 11:06:44 <Flygon> >_> 11:07:01 * andythenorth wishes action 14 had separators, or a progressive disclosure 11:07:06 <andythenorth> âadvanced settingsâ 11:07:23 <andythenorth> the only important FIRS parameter is âeconomy' 11:07:45 <andythenorth> but there are 9 others that are irrelevant to most players 11:09:18 * Flygon adds a second NZR X-Class. Absolutely HATES double heading Steam Locos. x.x 11:09:57 <Flygon> 1.8 tiles wasted to a Loco 11:10:42 <Flygon> Then again, I'm triple heading a 48 tile train... 11:11:00 <andythenorth> @seen alberth 11:11:00 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: alberth was last seen in #openttd 14 hours, 15 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Alberth> fair enough :) 11:11:17 <andythenorth> clearly everyone has gone shopping :P 11:11:18 * andythenorth too 11:11:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has left #openttd [] 11:13:01 <V453000> 1156t must be a stupidly long train for just one engine 11:14:17 <Flygon> Separate train hauling 145 carriages... 11:14:33 <Flygon> 4,930 tonnes 11:14:41 <Flygon> Hopefully 4,200hp is good- no, it isn't 11:14:43 <Flygon> PERELEE :D 11:15:22 <Flygon> 1910s Steam Locos aren't strong nuff 11:15:48 <V453000> doesn't sound very realistic to carry that weight in 1910 11:15:51 <V453000> ultimate argument fired 11:16:00 <Flygon> You have a point 11:16:13 <Flygon> But I'm balancing rule-of-cool and realism here :DD 11:16:33 <V453000> well if your engine can't climb a hill it isn't so cool :) 11:16:49 <Flygon> Got the 12 tile train with two NZR X-Classes 11:17:01 <Flygon> And the 48 tile one with 4 SBB C5/6's 11:18:05 <Flygon> Annnd the NZR locos hit max speed while still exiting depot 11:19:01 <Flygon> It's lke 11:19:07 <Flygon> Seeing the snake out of Snake 11:32:43 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 11:32:46 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 11:35:40 *** oskari89 [~oskari89@83-102-63-32.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #openttd 12:01:34 <Flygon> Well 12:01:47 <Flygon> They don't dip below 51km/h across the one incline plane 12:01:52 <Flygon> With just two NZR X's 12:29:35 <Flygon> Alright 12:29:39 <Flygon> Mister 48 Tile is now running 12:29:44 <Flygon> Now to see how it runs 12:30:08 <Flygon> Having 4 Steam Locos coupled looks so silly.... 12:31:06 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:41 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:32:27 <Flygon> Still, they do lose some speed uphill... 12:33:44 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:33:55 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 12:34:56 <frosch123> Hoi 12:35:14 <Flygon> Eyyy 12:37:56 <frosch123> Ah, Andy already Left :p 12:38:34 <frosch123> So, i am like danmack now 12:39:02 <Alberth> :) 12:39:03 <Alberth> hoi 12:41:38 <frosch123> V453000: btw, too much cc is bad 12:43:32 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has quit [Quit: leaving] 12:46:09 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-173-67-246-148.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:22:11 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:32:20 <frosch123> Night 13:32:45 <Alberth> bye 13:33:17 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: meh] 13:41:55 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:02:49 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 14:28:14 <argoneus> good morning train friends 14:33:09 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:37:07 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 14:40:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:12:54 *** Clockworker_ [Clockworke@201-41-26-206.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 15:13:40 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 15:17:06 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 15:17:08 <drac_boy> hi 15:20:19 *** Clockworker [~Clockwork@201-41-26-206.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:23:11 *** kubast2 [~kubast2@217.153.119.86] has joined #openttd 15:29:58 *** Alberth [~alberth@a82-95-140-173.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #openttd 15:30:01 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 15:48:37 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 15:55:02 <drac_boy> hows the stopped-chasing-codes alberth? 15:55:03 <drac_boy> heh :) 15:55:43 <Alberth> quite forgotten :) 15:56:58 <drac_boy> :p 16:00:20 * drac_boy is doing ok other than for sorting through endless non-english links 16:01:43 <Alberth> :) 16:04:26 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 16:06:08 <drac_boy> might not interest you too much but still I found this earlier on, http://www.eisenbahn-bilder.com/db/details.php?image_id=71157&sessionid=df95342e67336472832e19eb141ae37f talk about finding two different krokodils present together :) 16:06:40 <drac_boy> (and yes, one is 1000mm while other is 4'8" 16:15:10 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:15:13 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:15:48 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:17:07 <andythenorth> o/ 16:19:59 <drac_boy> hi there o :) 16:20:01 <drac_boy> heh 16:21:23 <Alberth> o/ 16:26:18 <drac_boy> anyway going off for now, have fun 16:26:22 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 16:29:43 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-158-76.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 16:30:35 <andythenorth> Alberth: have you seen the new parameters in recent FIRS, for production? 16:30:36 <andythenorth> o_O 16:30:50 * andythenorth thinks they might need more / better explaining 16:31:00 <Alberth> I attempted to translate, and failed 16:31:22 <andythenorth> I attempted to play the game, and failed :) 16:31:30 <Alberth> haha :) 16:31:53 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32:18 <andythenorth> I am not sure how to improve them 16:32:26 <andythenorth> and frosch is not here to discuss :) 16:33:32 <Alberth> he was, but you were not :p 16:34:07 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7686/FIRS_production_params.png 16:34:22 <Alberth> http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1457786276#1457786276 16:35:14 <Alberth> :o looks very customizable-ish :) 16:35:15 <andythenorth> oic :P 16:35:24 <andythenorth> I missed him 16:36:36 <Alberth> hmm, devzone still doesn't get how to pack a newgrf :p 16:40:10 <andythenorth> so yes, the production behaviour is very customisable 16:40:21 <andythenorth> but that requires quite a detailed understanding of how it works 16:48:02 <Alberth> this is only about primary industries> 16:48:08 <Alberth> s/>/?/ 16:48:32 *** unleashy [b39e0beb@107.161.19.53] has joined #openttd 16:52:31 <andythenorth> farms, mines, ports, forests 16:52:32 <andythenorth> yes 16:53:28 <Alberth> ah, ok 16:53:34 <Alberth> seems to make sense 16:54:10 <unleashy> hello, I have a problem with the android version of OpenTTD (version 1.5.3.47): basically, relative mouse movement doesn't work as in the cursor goes under my finger and follows it instead of staying wherever it is. volume button binding also doesn't work (i can bind them but they don't do anything in the actual game) 16:57:08 <Alberth> unleashy: not sure there is anyone that can help you here 16:57:19 <Alberth> you may want to post http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=49867&hilit=android&start=280 16:58:25 <Alberth> andythenorth: what is the percentage now? 16:58:25 <unleashy> ok 17:00:58 *** unleashy [b39e0beb@107.161.19.53] has quit [Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client] 17:03:13 <andythenorth> Alberth: prior to the patch, the boosts were 100% and 300% (giving 2x and 4x total production, if that makes sense) 17:03:56 <andythenorth> and the âgung hoâ 4x delivery requirement is ~4x the delivery requirement for 2x 17:04:04 <Alberth> yes production increase makes sense 17:04:53 <Alberth> but number of crates to deliver doesn't 17:05:32 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 17:05:46 <Alberth> I'd talk in absolute production levels instead of bonus percentages 17:05:56 <Alberth> 200% production 17:06:37 <Alberth> otherwise you are always off by 100%, which doesn't add anything, and is only confusing 17:06:40 <andythenorth> yeah, I think so 17:06:44 <andythenorth> that confused me 17:07:13 <Alberth> you can set a lower limit on the parameter :) 17:07:36 <Alberth> although a gung ho < enhanced could be fun :p 17:07:53 <andythenorth> :P 17:07:56 <andythenorth> penalty 17:08:04 <andythenorth> precise delivery requirement 17:09:57 <Alberth> but how do you derive number of crates? 17:10:08 <andythenorth> itâs a constant 17:10:19 <andythenorth> per class of industry (farm, mine, port) 17:11:39 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:13:14 <Alberth> right, any reason not to use absolute number of crates? 17:15:20 <Alberth> assuming you don't do fractions of crates :p 17:16:13 <andythenorth> it varies by industry :| 17:16:16 <andythenorth> otherwise I would 17:18:01 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:18:21 <Alberth> ah, makes sense 17:18:33 <Alberth> how many industries are we talking about? 17:18:58 <Alberth> alternatively, mention the number in the description? 17:20:19 <Alberth> ie less than 5? 10? 17:20:35 <Alberth> beyond that it too much anyway :) 17:20:41 <Alberth> +is 17:23:23 <Alberth> "Adjust" throws me off onto the wrong track in the option name 17:24:37 <Alberth> Also, the option says "cargo requirement", while the explanation says "amount of supplies required", which is not clear to be the same thing to me 17:25:28 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:26:00 *** Clockworker [Clockworke@201-34-114-69.paemt704.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has joined #openttd 17:28:07 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 17:29:20 <Alberth> andythenorth: Required supplies deliveries for 'enhanced level' (% of base amount) ? 17:32:31 *** Clockworker_ [Clockworke@201-41-26-206.paemt700.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:38:57 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 17:48:31 <andythenorth> Alberth: Iâll try that shortly, than,s 17:48:32 <andythenorth> thanks * 17:48:41 * andythenorth cooking 17:48:47 <Alberth> me too :) 17:57:41 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:01:38 *** kubast2 [~kubast2@217.153.119.86] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:13:30 *** liq3 [liq3@CPE-120-147-195-191.gdiv2.lon.bigpond.net.au] has joined #openttd 18:47:44 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6D7BF.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:53:46 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6A457.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:01:09 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:36:17 * andythenorth -> bed 19:36:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:45:22 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 19:53:11 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:11 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 19:53:39 *** efess [~Efess@c-24-61-64-170.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:30 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5B0DAE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 20:22:22 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5B0DAE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:13:23 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 21:14:09 *** Mek [~quassel@marijnalexwedding.com] has joined #openttd 21:18:30 *** Nakilon [~oftc-webi@ip-176-77-24-222.bb.netbynet.ru] has joined #openttd 21:18:39 <Nakilon> hi guys 21:18:48 *** Progman [~progman@p57A1879C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 21:19:01 <Nakilon> I wanna create a bot that would play via LAN 21:19:28 <Nakilon> I'm looking into https://wiki.openttd.org/Network_Protocol and see PACKET_CLIENT_GAME_INFO 21:20:06 <Nakilon> but grep shows nothing about that constant in the 1.5.3 source code that I've just checked out of svn 21:20:13 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 21:20:54 <peter1138> you should use the AI system i guess 21:21:43 <Nakilon> I don't want to 21:22:00 <Nakilon> I want to write in another programming language than squirrel 21:23:16 <Nakilon> oh http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd/link/1156879068#1156879068 21:24:06 <peter1138> well you have to build it into openttd at least 21:26:56 <Nakilon> is anywhere network protocol descrbed better than ion that wiki page? 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