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00:08:01 *** AdmiralKew_ [~pcc31@49.147.164.122] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 00:15:47 <drac_boy> going off for now :) 00:15:49 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has left #openttd [] 02:15:03 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-100-37-203-161.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 02:17:49 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:59:41 *** Ethereal_Whisper [~Tricia@ip70-176-114-248.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 03:00:43 <Ethereal_Whisper> I've decided I've had enough of Quassel 03:09:02 <Ethereal_Whisper> Totally random question; what's the advantage of using pre-signals over block signals? I do it anyway of course, I'm just curious as to why. 03:11:54 *** emma__ [~wircer@190.103.193.8] has joined #openttd 03:12:02 <emma__> g 03:12:18 <Ethereal_Whisper> g 03:12:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> :P 03:12:39 <emma__> hello 03:13:01 <emma__> how are you? 03:13:48 <Ethereal_Whisper> Annoyed 03:14:51 <emma__> why? 03:14:57 <Ethereal_Whisper> The Chicago Blackhawks won 03:16:43 <emma__> that bad 03:17:04 <Ethereal_Whisper> Not necessarly; they beat the St. Louis Blues who I'm not necessarily a fan of. I'd just like them to get eliminated ASAP 03:18:54 <emma__> ah 03:20:21 <Eddi|zuHause> it's not like you have a Bayern MÃŒnchen who dominate every season 03:20:24 *** emma__ [~wircer@190.103.193.8] has left #openttd [wIRC] 03:20:59 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah. NHL has a hard salary cap, mandatory revenue sharting, and cash transfers are banned, so it helps with parity quite a bit 03:24:06 <Eddi|zuHause> but to answer your question: you should use path signals for every complex situation. we only have pre-signals around for legacy reasons, and they have very limited use cases that cannot really be covered with path signals, like priority lanes 03:29:12 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:29:51 *** Ketsuban [~ketsuban@2a02:c7d:a34a:9000:8507:4030:6472:2990] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:30:33 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/i60tVU7.png so would this be better as entry/entry and exit or is it fine to just use block signals there 03:34:50 <Eddi|zuHause> it'll be fine with just block signals, but with pre- and combo-signals you can make it so one line gets priority in a way that trains on the other line will wait for a large enough gap to not disrupt traffic 03:35:29 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:38:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> Ok thanks :) 03:42:44 <ST2> screenshot is so small that your sings will work as good as any pre/pro/PBS or whatever you place there 03:42:57 <ST2> since not wrong faced 03:44:25 <ST2> unless Eddi|zuHause is on the game and can the the whole picture ^^ 03:45:32 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-238-150.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 03:45:46 <Ethereal_Whisper> Well, a friend wants to play a different game with me right now so I'll come back to it later 03:52:17 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-238-150.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 03:56:46 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 04:19:12 *** Flygon__ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-238-150.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:31:52 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-238-150.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 04:49:07 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-8-121.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 04:54:34 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 04:56:19 *** ConductingCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-8-121.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 05:58:21 *** MonkeyDrone [~Monkey@82.194.53.83] has joined #openttd 05:59:47 *** MonkeyDrone [~Monkey@82.194.53.83] has quit [] 06:03:33 *** MonkeyDrone [~Monkey@82.194.53.83] has joined #openttd 06:34:41 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 06:34:44 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 07:01:22 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 07:10:41 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 07:18:45 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: c('~' )o] 07:23:19 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 07:23:22 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 07:26:21 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [] 07:40:46 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 07:43:25 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.147.109.237] has joined #openttd 08:01:29 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@000125f6.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:04:37 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 08:07:46 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:12:09 <andythenorth> o/ 08:15:38 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:22:25 <Alberth> hi hi 08:33:01 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - 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STR_AI_CONFIG_CONFIGURE : STR_AI_DEBUG_SETTINGS); 09:49:40 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 09:57:34 <Alberth> you don't think I am going to decipher that, right? 09:57:58 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 09:58:03 <Alberth> o/ 09:58:08 <Wolf01> o/ 10:00:47 <Samu> sec, i post patch 10:01:04 <Samu> i mean, paste, not gonna post yet, not ready 10:02:50 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/peogdurqu#line-76 10:03:05 <Samu> couldn't do better than this 10:05:03 <Alberth> if you break that line in 2 "bool b = ....; SetDParemt(0, b ? ... : ...); " would be better 10:05:15 <Alberth> but that's not the biggest problem 10:06:25 <Alberth> I have absolutely no idea what code you're hacking, or how that code works. It would cost me several hours to understand the code and then your patch 10:07:34 <Samu> yah, bools 10:09:15 <Samu> if in a normal game and selected slot is GS, have the button change text to "Settings" 10:09:26 <Samu> otherwise, "Configure" 10:09:35 <Samu> the other is a bit harder 10:10:38 <Samu> it is about finding a dead AI slot, if it finds one, say "Configure", if not, say "Settings" 10:10:52 <Alberth> why are you changing max companies values in a "change button text" patch? 10:13:57 <Samu> it's the continuation of what I was doing 10:14:06 <Samu> a week or 2 ago 10:15:43 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.147.109.237] has joined #openttd 10:21:08 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.147.109.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:21:58 <Wolf01> anybody good with TCL? 10:22:31 <Alberth> I have no doubt about that, but you seem to be doing lots of different stuff, I don't follow that at all 10:23:16 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:23:43 <Alberth> changing the text of a button should be around 10 lines of code probably a lot less, even 10:24:54 <Alberth> just making a big dump and adding a "?" isn't going to work, imho 10:25:50 <Alberth> Ha, I dropped TCL in favour of Python, around 20 years ago :p 10:29:13 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-010-052.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 10:29:41 <Alberth> Samu: simplify the change to as few lines as possible, just for changing the text. Even just a partial patch eg just one condition to change the text suffices. Once you get the idea expanding the conditions or replicating the same thing 100 times is easy to do afterwards 10:35:32 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 10:41:28 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 10:48:48 <Alberth> o/ 10:57:31 <Samu> a patch for a patch 10:58:15 <frosch123> hoi 11:00:06 <Wolf01> o/ 11:00:56 <Wolf01> Alberth, I found a problem in a tcl script (seen), it returns 0 for some nicks without any reason 11:02:23 <Wolf01> I suppose it's because the author used strings as lists, but other nicks with the same symbols work 11:03:41 <Alberth> in TCL everything is a string 11:04:13 <Alberth> the puzzle is always the order of evaluation, which you state with quotes 11:04:40 <Wolf01> yes, but if you use lindex for a string with {[(" it breaks 11:05:13 <Alberth> oh, could be, it has been some time :p 11:05:40 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:05:50 <Alberth> but I got sick of the quote puzzle stuff, it gets messy at > 2 levels, so I dropped TCL when I found Python (1.5, at the time) 11:06:25 <Wolf01> I'm trying to replace some occurrencies with [lindex [split $string]] but seem to be worse :/ 11:07:21 <Wolf01> also this stuff is a pita to debug, every time I must reload the bot 11:07:48 <Alberth> take out the offending lines, and run it as a separate tcl script? 11:08:16 <Wolf01> eheh, if only I can find the offending lines 11:08:49 *** pugi_ [~pugi@host-091-097-005-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #openttd 11:08:58 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/px30pn7fd I trimed the code just for string change, but this code alone makes little sense without the rest of it :( 11:09:12 <Wolf01> I figured out it should just be the part which prompts the result, because the reading goes well 11:09:21 <Wolf01> also the variables have the right values 11:10:37 <Samu> IsEditable has different rules in the original trunk version 11:10:55 <Alberth> Samu: looks good enough, you change both the button text and the tool tip? 11:11:09 <Samu> i'd like to change the tooltip, i can't manage to do it 11:11:19 <Alberth> I would suggest only change the text now 11:12:08 <Alberth> also instead of a complicated boolean condition, just set it to one string in the switch , and test, then set it to the other string and test 11:12:27 <Alberth> if that works, you know the widget and the switch work 11:13:25 <Alberth> if that works, add a boolean with a simple case, instead of the zillion things you have now, and test if it switches 11:13:48 <Alberth> if it does, add more condition, test again, and so on until you have all cases 11:14:14 *** pugi [~pugi@dyndsl-091-096-010-052.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:14:15 *** pugi_ is now known as pugi 11:14:23 <Alberth> don't do everything in one giant leap acros the sea if you can\t swim, take small steps 11:16:06 <Eddi|zuHause> oh, snow. how very april. 11:16:21 <Wolf01> rainy here ::/ 11:16:43 <Wolf01> leave a pair of eyes.. 11:16:52 <Eddi|zuHause> well, it stops being snow the instant it hits the ground :p 11:20:07 <argoneus> good morning train friends 11:21:38 <Eddi|zuHause> so many words wrong in that greeting. every time. 11:22:53 <Wolf01> the only right word is "train" 11:28:28 <Wolf01> fuck... it uses it's own variable for nick length, and it was set to 9, the nick was 11 11:29:08 <Wolf01> if {[string length $data] > $bs(nicksize)} {return 0} <- really meaningful :| 11:29:47 <Alberth> I always consider "train friend" the wrong part, mostly 11:30:13 <Samu> if (bla) SetDParam else SetDParam ? 11:30:52 <Alberth> ha, otherwise people would make too long nicks? :) 11:31:23 <Wolf01> it was set for undernet which has a limit of 9 chars 11:32:49 <Samu> i have a hard time to understand your lingo 11:32:52 <Wolf01> I can't even understand why it doesn't use the global nick length set on the config 11:32:54 <Alberth> Samu: Your idea could work SetDParam(.. , b ? X : Y) is good too, but limit length of a statement to 80-100 characters or so. If you need more, break it into more lines, so you can just read it without having t decipher pairs of parentheses from a big jumble of symbols 11:33:48 <Samu> I made this https://paste.openttdcoop.org/po4ime8wf 11:34:02 <Alberth> it's the same idea as writing several short sentences on irc, instead of a long 1000 word text on one line 11:36:11 <Wolf01> now I should figure out how to maintain an index of the help sections for my script 11:36:41 <Alberth> Samu: first step is just unconditionally SetDParam(0, STR_AI_CONFIG_CONFIGURE); 11:36:51 <Alberth> that should work 11:37:11 <Alberth> then unconditionally SetDParam(0, STR_AI_DEBUG_SETTINGS); 11:37:16 <Alberth> that sohlud work too 11:37:59 <Samu> unconditionally means, without if? 11:38:34 <Alberth> yep 11:39:03 <Samu> oh, strange, that's confusing me, how would it check? 11:39:06 <Alberth> if things fail, simplify stuff out of the way, so you get a handle on where the problem actually is 11:39:19 <Alberth> rather than random guessing and trying 11:39:50 <Alberth> putting things together again afterwards is quite easy if all the pieces work 11:40:30 <Alberth> how would it check what ? 11:41:02 <Alberth> if you always set that string, it should show at the button, shouldn't it? 11:41:23 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 11:41:40 <Alberth> if it doesn't something is wrong 11:42:04 <Samu> first step is SetDParam(0, STR_AI_CONFIG_CONFIGURE); 11:42:42 <Samu> what if it's not 11:44:10 <Samu> the problem is probably in the widget 11:44:18 <Alberth> then your SetDParam isn't working 11:44:18 <Samu> line 10 11:44:35 <Alberth> and not for example in the big condition or the if 11:45:07 <Alberth> more likely it's in the string texts 11:45:32 <Alberth> or you never reach "default" in the switch 11:46:13 <Alberth> ie the SetSParam is never executed 11:48:32 <Samu> STR_JUST_STRING 11:49:34 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 11:49:56 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 11:51:07 <Samu> STR_JUST_STRING : {STRING} 11:52:00 <Samu> {STRING} changes to either STR_AI_CONFIG_CONFIGURE or STR_AI_DEBUG_SETTINGS 11:52:19 <Samu> i need a if to decide to what it changes 11:52:45 <Samu> if I don't put ifs there, where would I put them? 11:53:21 <Alberth> your code doesn't work right? 11:54:21 <Alberth> and you want to find out why 11:54:41 <Samu> partially works 11:54:46 <Alberth> one good strategy is to remove as much as you can, and try if it works 11:55:11 <Alberth> if it still does not work, the problem is in the code you still have 11:55:23 <Alberth> if it does work, the problem is in the code you removed 11:56:02 <Alberth> so by throwing some code away, and testing, you are one step closer to finding where the problem is exactly 11:56:44 <Samu> the conditions work 11:56:55 <Alberth> ok 11:57:08 <Samu> what i'd like to do however is to also do this for the TOOLTIP part 11:57:26 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 11:57:44 <Alberth> as I said yesterday already, you cannot use string parameters for that 11:57:55 <Alberth> you have to change the string itself 11:58:05 <Alberth> inside the widget 11:58:39 <Samu> i tried, couldn't manage to do it, intellisense was complaining too much 11:59:18 <Alberth> that's a message I cannot help you with anything 11:59:51 <Alberth> "it does not work" contains no clue whatsoever why or how or what 12:00:43 <Samu> the conditions work, it changes the button to "Configure" or "Settings". This part I tested. Sorry 12:01:08 <Samu> the tooltip is the hardest part, gonna try do something again 12:03:32 <Samu> "Configure" will have "Configure tooltip", "Settings" will have "Settings tooltip" 12:03:43 <Samu> this is what's missing 12:04:31 <Samu> sorry, lunch time, be back later with this 12:30:29 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:31:04 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-136-186.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:40:39 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:00:09 <Wolf01> o/ 13:03:38 <Samu> back 13:05:25 <Samu> @logs 13:05:25 <DorpsGek> Samu: http://irclogs.qmsk.net/channels/openttd 13:08:21 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:12:00 <Samu> https://git.openttd.org/?p=trunk.git;a=blob;f=src/order_gui.cpp;h=3ca29e087ab1d931a6724843060a5d51e062e1c9;hb=HEAD#l934 13:22:39 <Samu> i can't do it as a parameter 13:22:56 <Samu> oninvalidate ? 13:23:47 <Alberth> tooltip gets handled directly by the generic mouse handling, the window is never used 13:24:07 <Alberth> aside from retrieving the widget you queried 13:29:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 13:34:23 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 13:34:51 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [] 13:41:59 <Ethereal_Whisper> mfw I accidentally bulldoze an important line and create a traffic jam that lasts for 2 years 13:42:20 <Wolf01> reload the last autosave 13:43:04 <Ethereal_Whisper> I fixed it already, heh 13:43:04 <Alberth> repairing is much more fun :p 13:43:39 <Wolf01> You reminded me to repair that lone outpost near the biters nest 13:44:17 <Alberth> better check it's still there :) 13:45:00 <Alberth> but indeed, accidents happen when you modify things at or near a live transport line :) 13:45:01 <Wolf01> Oh, it is, don't worry, I have laser turrets now... upgraded to 3 (both damage and speed) 13:45:21 <Alberth> poor aliens :( 13:45:41 <Ethereal_Whisper> How do I remove just part of a station again? Control-Click with bulldozer? 13:46:00 <Alberth> select station building, then the bulldozer 13:46:24 <Alberth> click removes a tile iirc, ctl+click also the tracks 13:47:00 <Alberth> just bulldoze without the station build kills the station 13:47:12 <Alberth> or was that dynamite? don't remember 13:47:14 <Ethereal_Whisper> Thanks 13:47:20 <Eddi|zuHause> that was dynamite 13:47:33 <Eddi|zuHause> but i think it now leaves the tracks behind 13:47:36 <Ethereal_Whisper> Had a RoRo expansion go wrong, forgot to leave room for a block signal in front of it 13:47:49 <Alberth> so just bulldozer doesn't do anything with stations? 13:48:01 <Ethereal_Whisper> It bulldozes the entire station 13:48:12 <Eddi|zuHause> bulldozer is always used with another tool 13:48:15 <Ethereal_Whisper> Bad idea if you just want to modify one of the platforms 13:48:15 <Alberth> ah right, as I remembered 13:48:23 <Eddi|zuHause> cannot be activated alone 13:48:37 <Alberth> ah, could be 13:49:00 <Alberth> I always use the keyboard, hardly ever look at the construction bar 13:59:10 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 13:59:27 *** AdmiralKewl [~pcc31@49.147.109.237] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:59:41 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.147.109.237] has joined #openttd 14:06:43 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 14:09:16 <Samu> holy crap i think i did it 14:10:48 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pvg5ftb8r 14:10:55 <Samu> got this working somehow 14:11:22 <Samu> I set it on OnInvalidateData instead of SetStringParameters 14:14:27 <Samu> i got to simplify that bool 14:14:57 <Alberth> sure, SetDataTip works 14:22:52 <Samu> will have to simplify that, must think 14:23:20 <Samu> how do i patch my patch? 14:23:24 <Samu> if that is possible 14:24:18 <Samu> it only lets me select a folder to apply a patch, not a patch 14:24:23 <Samu> ;\ 14:24:38 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6CBC2.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 14:25:04 <Samu> bah, i'll edit by hand 14:27:27 <Alberth> there are patch utils to operate on patch files, but even for linux, they are not installed by default, so pretty niche 14:28:35 <Alberth> standard solution is to apply both patches after each other on the same set of files, then ask for the diff of that folder relative to the unmodified version 14:31:18 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6CBC2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 14:33:49 <Ethereal_Whisper> Why the hell is my 8-track RoRo station so congested 14:35:14 <FLHerne> Ethereal_Whisper: Screenshots? 14:35:28 <Ethereal_Whisper> I just blew it up. Going to completely redesign it 14:35:56 <FLHerne> If the exit layout causes trains to wait for each other too much, you get already-full trains standing in the platforms, which kills throughput 14:38:57 <FLHerne> Make sure you have standing room after each platform before the merge, because some waiting is inevitable 14:39:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/GyRp9nE.png this is the space I'm working with and load balancing 14:40:11 <Ethereal_Whisper> Far right platform is part of an S-bahn single-track point-to-point, don't mind it 14:40:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> I think I'm going to just delete that line 14:41:15 <Alberth> those pieces of track seem pretty useless unless you have very short trains 14:41:25 <Ethereal_Whisper> Train length is 3.0 14:41:47 <Eddi|zuHause> i know why your trains get stuck. the tracks are not connected to anything. 14:42:37 <Alberth> better use all space after the platform instead of twice not doing much imho 14:43:21 <Alberth> 1 tile signal, 3 tiles train, 1 tile signal, and a turn/merge 14:43:27 <Ethereal_Whisper> Eddi|zuHause, lol 14:44:14 <Eddi|zuHause> no, but seriously. build the whole thing, send the trains in there, and then show us a picture with the trains 14:44:48 <Eddi|zuHause> THEN maybe we can tell you where your bottleneck is 14:44:54 <Ethereal_Whisper> I've got a shit ton of exit space if I build long exits... I think I dare to blow up some of the city for the sake of efficiency. It'll re-grow 14:46:08 <Alberth> yep, TIAS is a good strategy in these things :) 14:47:01 <Eddi|zuHause> also, split/join your lines in stages, like 1-2 <trainlength> 2-4 <trainlength> 4-8 <platform>, or 1-3 <trainlength> 3-9 <platform> 14:47:30 <Eddi|zuHause> same backwards 14:48:32 <Eddi|zuHause> that way, trains which are not at full speed yet will not block each other so much 14:53:36 <Samu> what's the difference between INVALID_OWNER and INVALID_COMPANY? 14:54:10 <Alberth> there are more owners than companies 14:54:33 <Ethereal_Whisper> Alright, I got a design down 14:54:59 <Samu> INVALID_OWNER = 0xFF, ///< An invalid owner 14:55:08 <Samu> INVALID_COMPANY = 0xFF, ///< An invalid company 14:55:16 <Alberth> any INVALID_XXX is 0xFF 14:58:00 <Samu> ok, gonna use INVALID_COMPANY 15:01:00 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/4ovxdDS.png that's the redesign 15:01:05 <Ethereal_Whisper> I think I messed something up still 15:05:11 <Ethereal_Whisper> Split the entrance lines 15:06:04 <Eddi|zuHause> no point in merging two unrelated lines only to split them apart a tile later 15:06:22 <Eddi|zuHause> make two separate entrances/exits for each line 15:07:45 <Ethereal_Whisper> That's what I did. Splits into lines A and B, line A uses platforms 1-4, line B uses platforms 5-8 15:10:13 <Ethereal_Whisper> For reference, 52 trains are serving it 15:10:48 <Eddi|zuHause> that's a pretty meaningless number 15:23:47 <Ethereal_Whisper> Oh hey, the congestion has cleared 15:27:26 *** MonkeyDrone2 [~Monkey@94.76.47.175] has joined #openttd 15:33:13 *** MonkeyDrone [~Monkey@82.194.53.83] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:36:11 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:36:44 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 15:37:59 <Samu> i really need a GS script that dies 15:38:14 <Samu> for my testings 15:42:07 *** MonkeyDrone [~Monkey@94.76.44.233] has joined #openttd 15:42:14 *** MonkeyDrone [~Monkey@94.76.44.233] has quit [] 15:43:04 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@c7815BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Quit: Coyote finally caught me] 15:44:00 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@cE6A03E56.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 15:44:20 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 15:48:51 *** MonkeyDrone2 [~Monkey@94.76.47.175] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:46 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@49.147.109.237] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:02:55 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:02:58 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:07:31 *** AdmiralKew [~pcc31@119.94.103.62] has joined #openttd 16:18:14 <V453000> hm musa says you must pass a configuration file 16:18:16 <V453000> but I believe I do 16:18:34 <V453000> esp weird because it always used to work 16:20:56 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/musa-evil.png 16:21:01 <Rubidium> missing space, space too many, wrong working directory? 16:21:17 <V453000> it is called from the same directory where the config is 16:21:22 <Rubidium> tab instead of space? 16:21:42 <Rubidium> .cfg instead of .ini? 16:21:56 <V453000> are spaces, is ini 16:23:46 <Samu> i'm slightly confused. CompanyID can accept OWNER_DEITY? 16:24:24 <Samu> or only 0-14? 16:25:31 <V453000> should I try to give musa absolute paths? 16:25:48 <V453000> sounds majorly bs, since it used to work earlier 16:26:04 <V453000> on a different machine, I wonder if win10 can fuck this up as well 16:28:36 <Samu> explain me this thing 16:28:38 <Samu> template <> struct EnumPropsT<Owner> : MakeEnumPropsT<Owner, byte, OWNER_BEGIN, OWNER_END, INVALID_OWNER> {}; 16:28:57 <Samu> OWNER_BEGIN is = 0x00 16:29:05 <Samu> OWNER_END is = 0x13 16:29:24 <Samu> OWNER_DEITY is = 0x12 16:29:48 <Samu> can i use CompanyID to refer to a game script, even though it's not really a company? 16:29:58 <Samu> game script uses OWNER_DEITY 16:31:14 <Samu> INVALID_OWNER is = 0xFF 16:31:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6BDBD.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:34 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0831a8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:33:35 <Samu> erm, i'll ask this some other way 16:34:42 <Samu> if i know beforehand that selected_slot is OWNER_DEITY, which one is better correct? IsEditable(this->selected_slot) or IsEditable((CompanyID)selected_slot) 16:34:58 <Samu> or there is no difference? 16:34:58 <V453000> nice, now musa broke completely 16:35:23 <frosch123> since when can you run ".py" files on win? 16:35:47 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 16:35:51 <V453000> I have python installed so it should? 16:36:00 <V453000> I run python files at work as well on windoze 16:36:00 <Samu> halp, someone 16:36:18 <frosch123> wouldn't you need to run "c:\xxx\python.exe musy.py -c ..." 16:36:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6CBC2.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:36:30 <V453000> this folder of musa absolutely did work earlier 16:36:40 <V453000> I just copied the folder, replaced the grf, readme and changelog 16:36:43 <V453000> and it doesn't 16:36:54 <frosch123> well, the error is about not even detecting the "-c" 16:36:57 <V453000> I guess 16:37:16 <frosch123> maybe it's no proper "-", but a Â"â" :p 16:37:28 <V453000> I didn't change it, it worked before 16:44:57 <Wolf01> I remember some weird behavior with python when we were trying tools for css compression/minification/obfuscation 16:45:39 <V453000> idk I will just wire up my desktop and try it there 16:45:48 <V453000> I can't be arsed spending an evening with some technical bullshit just to upload a grf 16:50:30 <Samu> I just dissected that bool code line: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pcjfb5zge 16:50:38 <Samu> Alberth: 16:50:48 <Samu> now how to simplify 16:52:02 <Alberth> usually, assign a part of the condition onto a boolean variable, and use that variable in computing the final answer 16:52:38 <Alberth> where you generally avoid computing the same condition more than once 16:52:51 <Wolf01> V453000 iirc our errors are due to the different python versions installed, 2.0.x vs 2.2.x vs 2.3.x ... vs 3.x 16:53:24 <Alberth> 2.3 :O 16:53:39 <Samu> oops ValidAiID is not correct, brb 16:54:33 <Wolf01> we had some script which needed to run with 2.2.3, some others with ~2.5 others >2.6 16:54:40 <Wolf01> and it was really a mess 16:55:04 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pb6cuve2a 16:56:38 <Wolf01> oh, the sun, nice... too bad it is going to sleep now 16:57:05 <Samu> oki, will try 17:00:21 <V453000> yeah 17:00:35 <V453000> well I had python 2.7 17:01:01 <V453000> which I also have on teh desktop 17:01:13 <V453000> desktop also has some weird python35-32 17:02:06 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:17 <Alberth> python 3.5, 32 bit? 17:02:42 <V453000> oh 17:02:43 <V453000> :) 17:02:51 <Alberth> newer nmls require python 3 17:06:34 <V453000> nice I apparently reinstalled windows on the desktop since I last used musa as well 17:06:39 <V453000> at least this is win7 17:09:39 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 17:10:36 <andythenorth> V453000: you need some web service that will run musa for you :P 17:10:46 <andythenorth> and a tool to upload your grf to that :P 17:10:50 <V453000> yes 17:10:54 <V453000> gg 17:11:13 <V453000> anything that "just works" 17:11:24 <V453000> idiot-proofly 17:12:16 *** TrueBrain [~truebrain@i210033.upc-i.chello.nl] has joined #openttd 17:15:12 <V453000> uploading :D 17:15:16 <V453000> for some weird reason here it works 17:15:21 <V453000> might juts require python35 17:15:56 <V453000> forum post says 2.6+ though 17:20:40 <Samu> it can't get any smaller than this if (_game_mode == GM_NORMAL && this->selected_slot != INVALID_COMPANY && IsEditable(this->selected_slot) && (this->selected_slot == OWNER_DEITY) || (Company::IsValidAiID(selected_slot) && Company::Get(selected_slot)->ai_instance->IsDead())) 17:20:59 <Samu> t.t 17:21:59 <Samu> oops typo at the last check 17:22:11 <Samu> *!Company::Get 17:23:34 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/musa-evil2.png 17:23:37 <V453000> progress! :D 17:23:39 <V453000> another error 17:23:49 <V453000> oh a wild TrueBrain appeared :) 17:24:23 <Samu> more bools? 17:24:47 <V453000> Samu: is anybody in this channel even communicating with you? 17:24:54 <Samu> yes 17:25:00 <V453000> sorry but, wall of text whenever I join 17:25:43 <Alberth> well, you seem obsessed with having one huuuuuge statement 17:25:47 <V453000> did bananas just crash? 17:26:14 <V453000> no 17:27:21 <Alberth> it's exactly 107MB 17:28:05 <Alberth> hmm, 544768 bytes off 17:28:53 <Samu> i'm trying to make some bools, but ... hmm 17:29:05 <V453000> no when I try it again, it doesn't even progress after confirming that I am one of the authors 17:29:07 <Samu> either the bool is big, or the if is big 17:29:19 <Samu> no matter what, something big will stand 17:29:28 <Samu> :8 17:29:42 <Alberth> you can make more than one boolean :p 17:33:37 <Wolf01> bbl 17:33:40 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 17:36:09 <V453000> shit's borked 17:36:17 <V453000> I guess I can only try tomorrow 17:36:56 <V453000> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/musa-evil3.png 17:37:02 <V453000> waitinggg 17:37:19 <V453000> for 10 minutes already actually ... now I restarted it 17:45:06 <frosch123> TrueBrain: did V crash musad? :p 17:51:19 <Samu> what a great mess of bools 17:51:39 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:51:45 <V453000> something certainly seems very wrong with musa 17:51:48 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pbq5a3cca 17:51:52 <V453000> and this time it looks like it isnt on my side XD 17:53:04 <Samu> what's the difference between this->selected_slot and selected_slot ? 17:53:11 <TrueBrain> 6 letters 17:53:15 <Samu> :( 17:53:15 <TrueBrain> frosch123: make him stop doing it! 17:53:25 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 17:53:50 <V453000> TrueBrain: I have just let musa run :D 17:53:55 <V453000> not doing anything until poked 17:54:25 <Samu> if i can remove this-> i can spare 6 characters 17:54:30 <TrueBrain> member_descriptor object is not callable 17:54:35 <TrueBrain> my last error 17:54:41 <TrueBrain> but someone forgot to add timestamps 17:54:42 <TrueBrain> so meh 17:55:01 <TrueBrain> in SSLSocket 17:55:19 <TrueBrain> no SSL validation errors too 17:55:56 <TrueBrain> V453000: all I can see you are not talking SSL with musad ... for one reason or the other 17:56:10 <frosch123> TrueBrain: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20419525/musa-evil2.png <- that is dated to about 19:35 or so 17:56:15 <TrueBrain> frosch123: best to ask Rb for details; I can only see musad is up and running 17:56:42 <TrueBrain> and I have a small error log, with no timestamps 17:57:02 <TrueBrain> there I can see SSL connections fails a few times, some person tried to upload the same content 3 times in a row, and that is about it :D 17:57:21 <V453000> who could have it been :D 17:57:28 <V453000> <- 17:57:58 <frosch123> maybey some out-dated ssl version, that has been proven insecure, and is rejected by the server 17:58:09 <frosch123> but V's substandard OS still runs it? 17:58:31 <V453000> ._. 17:58:55 <TrueBrain> I do still see 2 active connections to musad 18:00:04 <V453000> that might be the 2 attempts where my musa didn't progress after I confirmed that I am one of the original authors 18:00:24 <V453000> closed it now 18:00:34 <TrueBrain> guess you are not that IP :P 18:00:43 <TrueBrain> as those 2 connections are still open, and very recent 18:01:15 <V453000> k XD 18:01:21 <TrueBrain> I am sorry, I am not of much help any further .. musad is up and running, and not producing backtraces I can work with 18:01:35 <TrueBrain> only errors are duplicated md5s, and SSL errors 18:01:39 <V453000> sooo I should terrorize Rubidium? :D 18:02:03 <TrueBrain> duplicated MD5s are user-problems, SSL Errors .. no clue where to start :D 18:02:15 <TrueBrain> frosch123: it is more likely the server is outdated tbh 18:02:24 <TrueBrain> possibly the certificate expired? I dont know if that is validated 18:03:07 <frosch123> did it print an md5 at least? :p 18:03:14 <TrueBrain> nope 18:03:22 <TrueBrain> the errorlogging is seriously very poor 18:05:02 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-100-37-203-161.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:05:59 <Samu> OnInvalidateData is becoming a serious pile of bools :( 18:07:31 <Samu> tada! https://paste.openttdcoop.org/ppkypgbqe 18:17:55 <Alberth> organize by slot number? 18:18:26 <Alberth> inserting newlines may also work 18:25:19 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 18:29:35 *** supermop [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:39 <Samu> switch/case? 18:29:56 <Samu> what are newlines 18:42:38 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:42:41 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:51:43 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:56:54 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/powsd7efu?/powsd7efu 18:57:17 <Samu> less bools, or just scattered 18:57:26 <Samu> wondering if it still works 18:59:53 <Alberth> just get much better no matter what you do, I think 19:00:07 <Alberth> *doesn't get much better 19:00:52 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:12:08 <V453000> Musa seems sad :( 19:12:19 <V453000> Hopefull it works tomorrow 19:12:21 <V453000> Gnight 19:15:13 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:24:22 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 19:24:32 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 19:30:52 *** Gjax [~martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:31:25 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 19:35:47 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:43:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:51:51 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED07F22.cm-7-1b.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 20:00:07 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 20:00:25 *** shirish [~quassel@117.195.97.74] has joined #openttd 20:05:47 <Samu> I think I can get rid of IsEditable 20:10:54 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:24:11 <Samu> I also think I can get rid of (CompanyID) 20:25:39 <Samu> nope, cannot 20:26:35 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:27:01 <Samu> can't simplify this any further !IsEditable((CompanyID)(this->selected_slot - 1)) 20:27:59 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:28:00 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:34:04 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 20:34:58 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 20:43:33 <Samu> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/praxk2bpp 20:43:46 <Samu> can't get any better than this 20:44:01 <Samu> can't remove any more code 20:44:47 <Samu> I hope the order of bool checking is from left to right 20:44:52 <Samu> and not random 20:45:03 <Samu> else this code will fail 20:47:02 <Samu> this || that || maybe_that || or_that - does is makes the checking from left to right? 20:47:15 <Samu> does it* 20:49:00 <Samu> if "this" is false, check "that", if "that" fails, check "maybe_that", and if "maybe_that" fails, check "or_that" 20:49:20 <Samu> anyone knows? 20:51:34 <Samu> if there's a IsEditable in "maybe_that" and it fails, I am working with the assumption of the opposite for "or_that", so I won't have to have an IsEditable in "or_that" - is my thinking correct? 21:04:43 *** supermop [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 21:05:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6BDBD.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:15:32 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 21:19:52 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0831a8.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 21:38:25 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4e3000de.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 21:47:08 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:51:05 <Samu> is this good british english? The AIs that are currently loaded or that will be loaded next time they start on these Company IDs 21:51:14 <Samu> it's for a tooltip 21:52:20 <Samu> and another, british english: The Game Script that is loaded or will be loaded in the next game 21:56:36 <Samu> "The AIs that are currently loaded or will be loaded next time they start on these Company IDs while in a game" 21:57:00 <Samu> bah, my english :/ 22:27:48 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:38:28 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45:43 *** drac_boy [~oftc-webi@modemcable027.125-163-184.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #openttd 22:46:18 * drac_boy throws a water balloon at flygon simply because winter's almost gone now finally? :P 22:46:24 <drac_boy> hehe... :) 22:50:47 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 22:51:48 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd 22:53:05 *** supermop [~supermop@pool-100-37-203-161.nycmny.fios.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 22:54:07 <drac_boy> hows supermop? 23:00:48 *** pugi [~pugi@host-091-097-005-121.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [] 23:02:27 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 23:03:28 *** debdog [~debdog@2a02:8070:4584:4200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d] has joined #openttd 23:03:37 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 23:20:46 <Eddi|zuHause> winter is coming. 23:21:19 <Eddi|zuHause> it also snowed today. 23:24:26 *** Eddi|zuHause2 [~johekr@p5B0DAE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 23:25:21 <drac_boy> so whats you up to atm? 23:28:26 <Samu> bed 23:28:28 <Samu> soon 23:30:16 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5B0DAE69.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:30:54 *** Eddi|zuHause2 is now known as Eddi|zuHause 23:30:56 <Eddi|zuHause> finding out why my system randomly freezes so often lately. like in the order of once per day 23:35:31 <drac_boy> hm, not much fun there I imagine :-s 23:35:45 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-8-121.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 23:40:19 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x4d0831a8.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:41:44 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-8-121.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:45:04 *** BALLER_MEECH [~45d4ad13@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has joined #openttd 23:45:11 *** BALLER_MEECH [~45d4ad13@188.cimarosa.openttdcoop.org] has left #openttd [] 23:45:47 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:48:20 *** Goddesen [~quassel@51.174.164.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 23:49:54 <Samu> topic edited. http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=74694 23:50:04 <Samu> now i'm off to bed, cyas good night 23:51:43 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:53:25 *** Goddesen [~quassel@51.174.164.106] has joined #openttd