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08:03:41 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 08:07:36 *** Matombo [~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de] has joined #openttd 08:15:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:22:15 *** tycoondemon2 [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 08:35:49 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 08:35:54 <Wolf01> moin 08:39:27 *** Matombo [~Matombo@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:40:52 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 09:03:17 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 09:05:11 <Wolf01> https://developer.xamarin.com/api/property/Android.OS.UserManager.IsUserAGoat/ o_O 09:06:01 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has quit [] 09:10:08 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:10:15 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15:27 <peter1138> Flygon, shame this game is closed source and nobody can add stuff. 09:17:25 <Flygon> Hahaha, I know what you're getting at :P 09:17:33 <Flygon> But I'd never ever be able to contribute 09:17:37 <Flygon> The few times I have coded 09:17:55 <Flygon> I created such horrendous kludge that it was almost entirely recoded 09:18:09 <Flygon> And that's if it worked 09:34:24 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:35:42 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:36:59 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 09:42:29 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 09:44:19 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:59:46 *** ConductCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-8-121.washdc.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 10:04:58 *** ConductorCat [~Conductor@pool-108-56-8-121.washdc.east.verizon.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 10:13:59 *** Quatroking [~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl] has joined #openttd 10:14:03 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 11:00:09 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 11:37:57 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-241-224-121.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FjWe31S_0g] 11:40:53 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 11:41:12 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 11:41:25 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-241-224-121.stny.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 11:44:50 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has joined #openttd 11:51:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@194.168.185.226] has left #openttd [] 12:00:33 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:41 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 12:12:44 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 12:19:41 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 12:32:22 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 12:54:43 *** Snail [~jacopocol@cpe-98-14-130-227.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Snail] 13:06:13 *** ektor [~ektor@nak11-h03-89-91-186-175.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has joined #openttd 13:15:01 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@c7815BF51.dhcp.as2116.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:16:43 *** OsteHovel [~OsteHovel@cE6A03E56.dhcp.as2116.net] has joined #openttd 13:19:59 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [] 13:20:22 *** tycoondemon [~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 13:21:30 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has joined #openttd 13:22:35 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #openttd 13:23:15 <V453000> basecosts mod might be able to tweak town building price 13:36:23 *** supermop [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has joined #openttd 13:39:42 <Eddi|zuHause> ... or just load it in the scenario editor 13:39:57 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has joined #openttd 13:40:00 *** mode/#openttd [+o Alberth] by ChanServ 13:40:25 <Alberth> moin 13:40:46 <supermop> yo 13:47:36 <Xaroth|Work> o7 Alberth 13:48:32 <Eddi|zuHause> bishop e5 13:49:39 <Alberth> o would be a very large chess board :p 13:52:26 *** Compu [~Compu@cpe-67-241-224-121.stny.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 13:59:26 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe they played on a go board :p 13:59:50 <Eddi|zuHause> bigger maps! 14:00:57 <supermop> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_shogi 14:01:16 <supermop> sure there is roof for an Alberth piece in Tai Shogi 14:01:25 <supermop> room 14:01:55 <peter1138> 4096x4096 chess board? 14:05:08 <Alberth> play on a board ruled into a grid of 25 ranks (rows) and 25 files (columns) not really :) 14:05:47 <Alberth> no bishops in Go, Eddi :) 14:06:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i never learned the actual rules of go 14:07:04 <Alberth> that takes only 5 minutes :) 14:07:39 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, and then 50 years to learn the strategies :p 14:08:41 <Xaroth|Work> faster to make an AI to do the matches for you then :P 14:08:56 <Alberth> go has a very nice way to balance the game between players of different strength; much better than eg chess or checkers 14:14:51 <supermop> Alberth: are you on KGS? 14:15:09 <supermop> always looking for new people to play with 14:15:11 <Alberth> no, never played go online 14:15:20 <supermop> ah you should! 14:15:24 <Alberth> we could do that one time 14:15:32 <supermop> i am about 10kyu on there at the moment 14:15:46 <supermop> so not that strong 14:15:53 <Alberth> me neither :) 14:19:29 <supermop> i never learned the rules to even regular shogi 14:20:07 <supermop> but i do have a shogi-ban, because my first goban came with one on the back, and a set of plastic shogi pieces 14:21:43 <Alberth> ah, chess variant 14:25:30 <peter1138> draughts :p 14:29:57 <Eddi|zuHause> Xaroth|Work: from the first steps of AI making to creating a GO AI capable of beating a human also took like 50 years 14:32:12 <Xaroth|Work> that makes it 5 minutes faster than learning go and being go at it :D :D 14:33:31 <Alberth> :D 14:34:26 <Eddi|zuHause> that difference is below the measurement error :p 14:37:48 *** heffer_ [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has joined #openttd 14:37:58 *** heffer [felix@hyperion.fk.cx] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 14:49:03 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 14:49:44 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 15:03:46 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:04:30 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 15:07:58 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:15:37 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 15:42:27 <Samu> what are these messages? https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pgmqywz0y 15:47:23 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-137-237.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has joined #openttd 15:47:45 <Samu> ah, must be Villages Is Villages translation doing wrong stuff 16:03:03 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has joined #openttd 16:06:03 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:06:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:07:30 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18D0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 16:31:42 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6A3EC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 16:38:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6CFE5.versanet.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:44:49 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:44:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:49:15 <Samu> hi glx 16:52:13 <Samu> for a moment I thought this bug https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6460 had been fixed 16:52:27 <Samu> but it's something else 16:53:33 <Samu> the state of the "Configure" button becomes enabled if I save the game and load it back 16:54:26 <Samu> before save is different than the after load 16:55:22 <Samu> i consider the after load behaviour the correct 16:55:34 <Samu> before save behaviour is wrong 16:56:36 <Samu> it's usually the opposite 16:57:10 <Samu> but not in this case 16:57:32 *** Flygon_ [~Flygon@ppp118-209-183-194.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has joined #openttd 17:01:13 *** Flygon [~Flygon@ppp118-209-183-194.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:02:37 *** chomwitt [~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-129-96.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:06:38 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 17:11:43 *** chomwitt [~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-173-217.home.otenet.gr] has joined #openttd 17:19:44 <Samu> dealing with multiple gamesettings is hell 17:19:49 <Samu> :o 17:23:24 <Samu> by allowing to change the script of dead AIs to another script then saving the game, I am going to load it back as the new AI and alive, not dead 17:23:50 <Samu> isn't it possible to save the state of an AI? 17:24:05 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has joined #openttd 17:24:18 <Samu> the AI is dead, save it as dead 17:24:29 <Samu> then don't load it alive 17:26:07 <planetmaker> why shouldn't a dead AI be revived? A dead AI after all is somewhat a bug in the AI 17:27:31 <Samu> it is revived, but with all of the infrastructure of the dead ai 17:28:24 <glx> same for non dead AI 17:28:38 <Alberth> hi hi 17:28:44 <planetmaker> hi hi :) 17:28:45 <glx> and most of them restart from 0 17:28:57 <glx> unless they saved some data 17:30:43 <Samu> I think I opened a can of worms 17:32:07 <Samu> my patch permits users to change the script of dead AIs to another. 17:33:06 <Samu> if the user saves the game like this, the save will not keep which script died, just which script I have last set in there 17:33:27 <Samu> if I load the save back, the AI revives as the new script 17:33:34 <Samu> :( 17:37:27 <Samu> Do dead AIs save data? 17:38:38 <Samu> I assume only alive AIs save data, but I may be wrong 17:40:38 <glx> a dead AI is just an AI that exited from its run loop, but other functions can still be called by openttd 17:45:42 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27565 trunk/src/lang/spanish_MX.txt (2016-05-13 19:45:33 +0200 ) 17:45:43 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 17:45:44 <DorpsGek> spanish (mexican): 13 changes by Absay 17:54:30 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 17:56:20 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 17:57:51 <frosch123> hoi 17:58:07 *** shirish [~quassel@59.96.121.199] has joined #openttd 17:59:09 <Alberth> moin 18:06:08 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:07:02 *** shirish [~quassel@59.96.121.199] has joined #openttd 18:17:06 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 18:17:25 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:20:21 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:20:36 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 18:22:33 *** Ethereal_Whisper [~Tricia@ip70-176-114-248.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #openttd 18:22:37 <Ethereal_Whisper> Hi 18:25:24 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 18:27:41 <Alberth> o/ 18:27:56 <andythenorth> hi 18:29:14 *** shirish [~quassel@0001358e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:29:26 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 18:30:33 *** shirish [~quassel@59.96.121.199] has joined #openttd 18:36:33 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has joined #openttd 18:37:26 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has joined #openttd 18:41:40 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 18:43:46 <V453000> lmfao 18:43:54 <V453000> steam just told me DOOM requires 52 GB disk space XD 18:44:06 <Ethereal_Whisper> What lol 18:45:36 <Supercheese> whew 18:45:41 <Supercheese> that list of modding changes for 0.13 18:45:48 * Supercheese wipes his brow 18:45:53 <V453000> hehe, 0.13 hype is real 18:45:56 <Supercheese> also wrong channel eeehhh 18:46:04 <Alberth> nah 18:46:05 <V453000> nah 18:46:16 <Supercheese> :P 18:53:14 <V453000> ok download is only 43.8GB 18:53:15 <V453000> ._. 18:53:50 <V453000> the good part is that it actually send me back to do more factorio work :D 18:54:35 <glx> smaller than gta V 18:55:23 <V453000> :D 18:55:29 <V453000> didn't play that 18:55:30 <andythenorth> but is it any good? 18:55:43 * andythenorth plays PrBoom now and then :P 18:55:44 <V453000> idk, the doom thing is getting quite positive reviews so far 19:00:22 <Eddi|zuHause> the original doom was like 3MB? 19:00:43 <Eddi|zuHause> when was that? 25 years ago? 19:01:03 <V453000> 23 I think 19:01:08 <V453000> 1992 or 1993? 19:01:51 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 43.8*1024/2**(23/1.5) 19:01:51 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 1.08637759494 19:02:00 <Eddi|zuHause> @calc 43.8*1024/2**(23/2) 19:02:00 <DorpsGek> Eddi|zuHause: 15.485638508 19:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> well, that does sound like a reasonable margin :p 19:03:39 <Eddi|zuHause> remember when they made games that fit on 1 DVD? :p 19:03:59 <Eddi|zuHause> remember when 1 CD was bigger than your entire HDD? 19:04:14 <Supercheese> No 19:04:16 <Supercheese> I don't 19:04:31 *** M-E [~M@ip4da0d6bd.direct-adsl.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:04:36 <Supercheese> I do remember when we had a PC with a 3-CD-changer drive thing 19:04:39 <Supercheese> that was weird 19:04:52 <Eddi|zuHause> that's what they said when CDs were introduced 19:05:10 <Eddi|zuHause> "they are so big, you won't need a HD anymore" 19:05:33 <Eddi|zuHause> remember when games came on 14 floppy disks? 19:05:55 <V453000> that meant hard dick back in the day Eddi, the nerds would just get instant nerdgasm whenever they laid sight on the thing 19:06:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i didn't worry too much about dicks back then 19:11:11 <V453000> while now... ? :D 19:17:12 <Eddi|zuHause> depends. 19:20:47 <V453000> /me runs 19:24:19 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 19:27:32 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 19:39:52 <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, I installed Word 5.0 for MS-DOS on my 20MByte HD. It came on 20 floppy disks, each 360kByte in size 19:40:37 <planetmaker> (yes, those wobbly 5.25" ones) 19:41:01 <Supercheese> when floppy actually meant floppy 19:44:42 <peter1138> 3.5" discs were floppy... just the case wasn't so much... 19:57:46 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 20:01:10 <Eddi|zuHause> i think 5Œ" disks went up to 1.2MB 20:01:26 <Alberth> ha, I booted a unix machine with a 8" floppy once :p 20:01:40 <Alberth> talking about 'floppy' :) 20:01:42 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc80661-stap13-2-0-cust817.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 20:01:46 <Eddi|zuHause> i had a 8" floppy, but no drive for it :p 20:08:11 <glx> I have only 3" and 3.5" 20:15:56 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:20:17 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:21:14 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-95-223-75-47.hsi16.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 20:24:26 *** zeknurn` [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #openttd 20:27:57 *** zeknurn [~sup@hd9483bd7.seveveb.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:27:57 *** zeknurn` is now known as zeknurn 20:33:00 <Eddi|zuHause> there were 3" floppies? 20:38:28 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:44:15 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6A3EC.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:45:23 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6A3EC.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 20:53:30 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 20:53:30 *** FLHerne [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:57:38 *** Hiddenfunstuff [~Geth@y32.ip1.anvianet.fi] has quit [Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The professional IRC Client :D] 21:08:52 *** roidal [~roland@62-46-137-237.adsl.highway.telekom.at] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 21:11:05 *** JacobD88 [~Thunderbi@cpc80661-stap13-2-0-cust817.12-2.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: JacobD88] 21:22:51 <Samu> how are the gamesettings created in-code? 21:23:27 <Samu> newgame is creating something "wrong" 21:24:24 <Samu> or load save is reading it "wrong", depending on the point of view 21:28:46 <Samu> there's 4 different ways to trigger openttd to access a config_list https://bugs.openttd.org/task/6460 21:28:52 <Samu> 3 match, 1 doesn't match 21:28:59 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@50.37.117.165] has joined #openttd 21:29:00 <Samu> newgame doesn't match the others 21:33:03 <Samu> newgame is testing this->config_list == NULL and returns false, the others are testing this too, but return true, it's then creating a new ScriptConfigItemList(); this->PushExtraConfigList(); 21:33:34 <Samu> it appends a "start_delay" to the list 21:34:00 <Samu> for me, the newgame is doing it wrong, how can i check how a config is created when starting a new game? 21:35:08 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18D0C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:36:19 <glx> <Eddi|zuHause> there were 3" floppies? <-- yes amstrad cpc :) 21:38:04 <Samu> are there gamescripts without any config list? I see the issue can be quite complicated after all 21:44:29 *** rahtgaz [~rahtgaz@00021442.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: I'll be Bach] 21:49:56 <Eddi|zuHause> never heard of that before 21:55:22 <Ethereal_Whisper> Damn clogged lines 21:55:47 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/8VIMwpe.png fffuuuu 22:01:25 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 22:01:29 <Samu_> lag 22:02:07 <Eddi|zuHause> you have an odd number of lines for an even number of directions 22:02:27 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:02:48 <Eddi|zuHause> also, you're not load balancing properly 22:08:07 <Ethereal_Whisper> Yeah, it's convoluted and dumb 22:08:10 <Ethereal_Whisper> I'm trying to fix it 22:09:13 <Ethereal_Whisper> Organic networks ftw 22:09:15 <Ethereal_Whisper> >.> 22:11:34 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:14:20 <Ethereal_Whisper> http://i.imgur.com/sqgOzsZ.png that's properly load balanced right? 22:15:03 <Eddi|zuHause> there's not a lot of load to balance 22:15:20 <Ethereal_Whisper> Not yet, I just started a new game and want to build things properly 22:22:26 *** supermop [~supermop@static-71-249-209-97.nycmny.east.verizon.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:23:55 *** frosch123 [~frosch@00013ce7.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: be yourself, except: if you have the opportunity to be a unicorn, then be a unicorn] 22:33:59 *** Samu [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has joined #openttd 22:34:19 <Samu> hey 22:34:50 <Samu> http://imgur.com/a/Z5quz - _settings.newgame doesn't match _settings.game 22:35:19 <Samu> now I'm confused :( 22:36:07 <Samu> _settings.game has config_list == { size = 0 } 22:36:19 <Samu> it should be <NULL> 22:36:51 <Samu> there's something I don't quite understand 22:36:59 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has joined #openttd 22:37:10 <Samu> _settings.newgame is the one that should be wrong 22:37:27 <Samu> I don't get it 22:38:06 *** Samu_ [~oftc-webi@po-217-129-255-23.netvisao.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:38:48 <Samu> is the main menu a loaded savegame? 22:39:14 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [] 22:46:53 *** aard [~aard@108.134.189.109.customer.cdi.no] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:50:24 *** Matombo [~Matombo@p57A3E040.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52:19 <Ethereal_Whisper> There, I made my network a circle lol 22:52:44 *** ektor [~ektor@nak11-h03-89-91-186-175.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:58:18 <Samu> _settings_game is indeed the culprit 22:58:36 <Samu> oops _settings.game 22:59:51 <Samu> while in main menu, it retrieves information from _settings.newgame - and information stored here is correct 23:00:48 <Samu> starting a new game, the information that is stored correctly in _settings.newgame is not passed correctly to _settings.game 23:01:41 <Samu> but something is wrong on my analysis, there's something amiss yet 23:04:08 *** sla_ro|master [slamaster@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 23:07:53 <Samu> please explain me what happens in the main menu 23:08:10 <Samu> is it a loaded save? 23:08:53 <Samu> if it is, that save is storing wrong information in _settings.game that is then passed through to a new game when it starts 23:09:20 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 23:11:24 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!] 23:11:58 *** FLHerne_ [~flh@dsl-217-155-24-22.zen.co.uk] has joined #openttd 23:13:03 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:20:16 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has quit [Quit: Quitting.] 23:26:01 *** Defaultti [defaultti@lakka.kapsi.fi] has joined #openttd 23:41:35 <Samu> yes, i finally nailed it 23:44:59 <Samu> void MakeNewgameSettingsLive() 23:45:06 <Samu> this function is ruining it 23:45:36 <Samu> openttd.cpp, line 368 more especifically 23:53:07 *** Biolunar [Biolunar@x5d822185.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 23:53:55 <Samu> there's 3 script types? 23:54:35 <Samu> ai_config.cpp, game_config.cpp, script_config.cpp 23:55:15 <Samu> when it is generating the settings for the AIs, it is using script_config.cpp instead of ai_config.cpp 23:55:25 <Samu> how do I correct this?