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Log for #openttd on 28th June 2016:
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08:03:43  <Wolf01> o/
08:04:44  <Eddi|zuHause> :( bud spencer... this is really a bad year.
08:04:49  <Wolf01> :(
08:11:35  <Wolf01> mmmh, it seem that you must select the 0.13 from the beta program in steam
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09:12:19  <Wolf01> V453000, in the electric network info, "satisfaction" and "consumption" shouldn't be switched?
09:12:42  <V453000> who the fuck renamed it at the last minute :D
09:12:49  <Wolf01> XD
09:13:05  <V453000> I think it should be consumption and production capacity or something
09:13:16  <V453000> it will probably completely change soon, idk if in 0.13
09:17:10  <V453000> are you trying the Lazy Bastard achievement?
09:17:29  <V453000> it's quite fun
09:17:36  <Wolf01> I'm still unsatisfied by my factory layouts, I tried serialised, parallel and parallel with serialised branches, each way has the downside of the slow production rate, but parallel at least makes possible to produce everything without starving the assembly machines downside
09:18:20  <Wolf01> it's the one which wants you to craft at most x items manually?
09:18:40  <V453000> yes, 111
09:19:02  <Wolf01> I'll fail it while I'm still harvesting coal XD
09:19:07  <V453000> well, I just make a big smelting which goes to everything through splitters so one thing doesn't get direct priority over other things
09:21:43  <Wolf01> research faster you lazy lab, I need the advanced furnaces!
09:28:03  <V453000> I am not even thinking about researching that now XD
09:28:18  <V453000> but yeah actually I might, am kind of running low on coal, need moar efficiency
09:29:18  <Wolf01> I only have 2 coal drills but the 6 furnaces for iron can't keep up with the iron ore production
09:29:31  <V453000> then it's probably easier to get more stone furnaces but yeah :P
09:29:48  <Wolf01> too bad I built the factory around the furnaces...
09:29:56  <Wolf01> so I can only upgrade them
09:30:02  <V453000> XD
09:30:14  <Wolf01> but I'll move the entire factory soon
09:30:18  <V453000> well you need to expand somewhere eventually anyway
09:30:19  <V453000> oh
09:30:21  <V453000> hm :)
09:30:25  <V453000> kind of doing the same atm
09:30:35  <V453000> got a nice home mess, now making the final plan
09:31:00  <Wolf01> I usually build a bootstrap factory and then move the production to other places
09:31:33  <V453000> I generally prefer to never ever remove old things, make them work
09:31:52  <V453000> but this time I have a very specific idea that would be a huge pain to do especially with the no hand crafting thing
09:32:01  <V453000> so just relocating a little
09:33:28  <Wolf01> also I started to walling out the huge biter's nest
09:33:48  <Wolf01> which is sitting on the oil fields :|
09:34:07  <V453000> already had my biterwrecking run with 4 gun turrets and full pockets of bullets :)
09:34:26  <V453000> but pollution makes them attack pretty much at the same rate they did previously now
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09:59:53  <Wolf01> the belt filling seem to be changed a little, items coming from the sides get priority now if there is a little space
10:00:14  <Wolf01> the result is a better compression
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12:18:42  <Samu> hi
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13:26:40  <supermop_> yo
13:27:04  <Eddi|zuHause> oy
13:30:21  <supermop_> is there much footprint of yiddish in modern german slang or idioms?
13:31:06  <supermop_> i feel like yiddish is the main force keeping german bit in modern american english, even though no one speaks yiddish anymore
13:31:59  <Eddi|zuHause> probably loads
13:32:02  <supermop_> i think there is one newspaper and internet radio station left here in new york, but it has generally died out or been replaced in most communities
13:32:34  <supermop_> and no german americans speak hoch deutsch or anything like it any more
13:32:58  <Eddi|zuHause> do you have any statistics on that?
13:33:19  <Eddi|zuHause> there's "pennsylvania dutch"
13:33:21  <supermop_> sure ill see what i can round up
13:33:31  <supermop_> yeah i was about to say
13:33:32  <Eddi|zuHause> which i hear is a rather large group of people
13:33:44  <supermop_> the amish speak an odd dialect of german still
13:34:37  <supermop_> but they are very isolated from most of american culture, and definitely from the part that has absorbed yiddish terms and phrases
13:35:18  <Wolf01> V453000, the feature to allow moving the map with mouse is really welcome :D
13:37:12  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: i think most words in german that came via yiddish are not recognized as such by most german speakers, but they definitely exist
13:38:20  <supermop_> i don't find this to be too statistically enlightening but it is kind of interesting:
13:38:22  <supermop_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_language_in_the_United_States
13:38:41  <supermop_> doesn't really touch on yiddish at all
13:39:53  <supermop_> do you have a particular word for the topping that is spread onto a bagel?
13:46:08  <Eddi|zuHause> we don't really have bagels
13:46:53  <Wolf01> you have baggers
13:47:28  <Eddi|zuHause> sweet stuff you put on bread rolls is sometimes called "Aufstrich", and sausage slices are called "Aufschnitt"
13:47:49  <supermop_> ah ok
13:48:26  <supermop_> in new york at least it would be know as schmear
13:48:58  <supermop_> is usually a cream cheese but also be a smoked fish or vegetable topping
13:49:05  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, from "schmieren", but no german i know of would say that
13:50:02  <Eddi|zuHause> you can use "schmieren" as a verb, but not as a noun. "Ich schmiere Butter aufs Brot"
13:51:21  <supermop_> yeah
13:51:46  <supermop_> in english it is both a verb and a noun
13:52:01  <Eddi|zuHause> there exists "Schmiere", but that is oily stuff you apply to make gears and rods move...
13:52:47  <Eddi|zuHause> you wouldn't eat that :p
13:53:14  <supermop_> i am not even sure if schmear is a part of international yiddish, or just a New York slang
13:53:24  <Eddi|zuHause> it's maybe more fatty than oily
13:54:31  <supermop_> but americans even only dimly aware of jewish american culture would have the connotation of 'cream cheese' when hearing the word
13:54:55  <supermop_> damn it
13:55:18  <supermop_> why am i talking so much about bagel toppings when i skipped breakfast
13:56:22  <Eddi|zuHause> https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schmiere <-- knows your usage of the word [3]
13:57:23  <supermop_> took be forever to get my head around the use of 'lox' when i moved here
13:57:51  <supermop_> as where i grew up, there was only 'smoked salmon' which some people called lox
13:58:02  <supermop_> not of all these other preparations etc
13:58:15  <Eddi|zuHause> never heard "lox" before
13:58:32  <supermop_> in swedish it is laks
13:58:34  <supermop_> i think
13:58:42  <supermop_> so maybe the same in german?
13:58:57  <Eddi|zuHause> "Lachs", yes
13:59:43  <supermop_> lox almost seems like it must be a british corruption of the word
14:00:13  <supermop_> i cant think of any other yiddish name ive seen with an 'ox' to make that phoneme
14:00:31  <Eddi|zuHause> that sounds likely
14:01:41  <supermop_> ok now i really need a bagel
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14:27:42  <supermop_> bagel en route
14:30:36  <Eddi|zuHause> good frÃŒhstÃŒck...
14:32:21  <supermop_> i will have both schmear and lox on mine
14:32:40  <supermop_> slong with red onion and caper
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14:33:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't like cheese
14:33:42  <Eddi|zuHause> (except on pizza)
14:34:39  <supermop_> it is really weird getting used to what is essentially a cheese and fish sandwich,
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14:35:18  <supermop_> but that seems to be the traditional new york style, so eventually i adapted to it
14:35:57  <Eddi|zuHause> coming back to your original thought though, the term "SchmierkÀse" will probably be understood
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14:47:50  <Samu> CPU is at 64ºC :(
14:47:59  <Samu> 61ºC is max recommended t.t
14:54:08  <Wolf01> amd or intel?
14:56:26  <Wolf01> 61°C for amd is the unpowered temperature, if you look well they are sold in asbestos boxes
15:02:29  <Alberth> hi hi
15:02:36  <Wolf01> o/
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15:07:02  <supermop_> ok bagel was good
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15:11:12  <Eddi|zuHause> the joy of someone plugging in an extension chord and and the circut breaker throwing a fit...
15:12:40  <Samu> it's AMD
15:14:45  <Wolf01> stop buying chinese extension chords
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15:34:25  <Wolf01> 'night
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15:34:32  <Mazur> Day,
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16:13:26  <Samu> cpu is at 100%
16:13:36  <Samu> ships, please :(
16:14:18  <Samu> average cpu usage for the last 3 days: 94%
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16:16:15  <Samu> cpu temperature when it wakes up from hibernation: 33ºC - that's the ambient temperature i guess
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16:30:55  <Alberth> it's 33 degrees in your room? :O
16:38:23  <Samu> it's 31.7
16:39:07  <Alberth> oh dear, quite hot thus
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16:42:32  <supermop_> extension chord eh?
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16:47:30  <Alberth> from china
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17:51:07  <andythenorth> o/
17:51:09  <andythenorth> o/
17:51:29  <Eddi|zuHause> double-o/
17:51:53  <andythenorth> just making sure
17:51:58  <andythenorth> probably better to do things twice
17:51:59  <andythenorth> to be sure
17:54:08  <frosch123> hmm, noone made the chemtrails joke
17:54:29  <frosch123> i guess it's not worth logging into the forum for that
17:55:21  <Eddi|zuHause> were newgrf effect vehicles ever implemented?
17:55:30  <frosch123> partly
17:56:20  <frosch123> you can see them in effect iron pony, road boar and such
17:57:14  <Eddi|zuHause> i always wanted 3rd rail vehicles emit sparks from the bottom
17:57:35  <Eddi|zuHause> but it would probably also need to know on which side the rail is currently
17:57:40  <frosch123> you can do that, that part is implemented
17:58:25  <andythenorth> Iron Horse metro could have that added
17:58:33  * andythenorth not coding it right now though
17:59:04  <Eddi|zuHause> i think i just disabled sparks in CETS, but i'm not sure anymore
18:04:58  <frosch123> "just" as in "5 years ago"?
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18:06:45  <Eddi|zuHause> "just" as in "simply", not as in "recently"
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18:12:19  <supermop_> smoke emitting from tires of road vehicles?
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18:13:41  <Eddi|zuHause> if your tyres emit smoke, you are probably doing something wrong :p
18:13:58  <V453000> racehog
18:14:12  <Eddi|zuHause> figure-8-hog
18:15:17  <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: better that using fire cycle pallet on RV tires
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18:18:34  <supermop_> how does game decide when to emit a spark?
18:18:50  <Alberth> it throws a die
18:19:17  <supermop_> steam smoke is emitted constantly, and diesel smoke when exerting power?
18:19:47  <frosch123> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/Action0Trains#Visual_effects_and_wagon_power_.2822.29 <- see there, or look into the code for more details
18:19:49  <Alberth> there is also speed stuff in play
18:20:10  <Alberth> less steam if it's running faster
18:20:13  <frosch123> 41, 42, 43 are the available spawning models
18:21:06  <Alberth> not if running against speed limit
18:21:39  <supermop_> why is 0 ahead of the vehicle?
18:21:52  <Eddi|zuHause> bounding box weirdness
18:22:32  <supermop_> some kind of exhotic physics locomotive that spawns gravitons in front of the train to pull it forward?
18:22:40  <frosch123> supermop_: don't worry about the positioning
18:22:47  <frosch123> that part is deprecated
18:22:52  <frosch123> and replaced by cb160
18:25:16  <supermop_> i am not too worried as i've never made a vehicle set
18:25:39  <supermop_> though i do have fantasies of getting off my ass to make some cute monorails
18:25:48  <Alberth> I like the gravitons idea
18:26:50  <Alberth> would even work in space
18:27:52  <supermop_> Alberth: what color should graviton vehicle effects be?
18:28:41  <supermop_> when i saw the bit about positioning in front of thevehicle, reminded me of the graviton projector engine in Ascendancy
18:28:48  <Alberth> in reality, probably nothing :p
18:29:16  <Alberth> but white would work, although it looks too much like steam
18:29:57  <Alberth> purple or pink would do it
18:30:06  <Alberth> magenta
18:30:37  <supermop_> did no one else play ascendancy in the 90s?
18:31:05  <Alberth> no way of telling what colour appears when there's gravity changing nearby :p
18:31:21  <supermop_> haha
18:31:54  <supermop_> presumably the lensing effect would diffract the light
18:32:40  <supermop_> kind of hoped eddi would have played it as it seems like deep space empire games would be in his wheelhouse
18:33:33  <supermop_> to date the only other people i've met who played it have been my neighbors who lived next to me in the early 90s, whom i borrowed the cd rom from
18:33:36  <Alberth> "..originally released for MS-DOS in 1995 and was updated and re-released for iOS in 2011.."  wikipedia
18:33:44  <supermop_> ooooh
18:33:52  <supermop_> i dont have any ios devices
18:34:59  <frosch123> ion devices are better anyway
18:41:55  <Eddi|zuHause> i've never heard of ascendency
18:42:57  <Eddi|zuHause> i really didn't play all that many games
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