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00:08:14 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2923C.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 00:26:06 *** NekoMaster [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has left #openttd [] 00:27:20 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has quit [Quit: NoShlomo] 00:29:43 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 [~farci@i59F6D84F.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:04:03 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2923C.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 01:16:51 *** JezK_ [~jez@2407:7800:400:107f:3db5:daca:8457:e66a] has joined #openttd 01:18:46 *** fjb_ [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 01:20:10 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2923C.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 01:29:47 *** NekoMaster [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has joined #openttd 01:37:56 <NekoMaster> its only after 21:30 and it feels so much later then this 01:49:22 <Eddi|zuHause> strange, it's almost 4:00 and it feels much earlier than this 01:49:40 <NekoMaster> I hate that I have to sleep 01:49:51 <NekoMaster> I have so much more to do 01:50:07 <NekoMaster> I jsut learned how to code a little and add single unit locomotives into openttd 02:00:30 <Eddi|zuHause> congratulations. now the real problems start :p 02:01:01 <NekoMaster> Well I already have a problem, the code I used from Sylf that I modified wont compile 02:01:20 <NekoMaster> "make: *** No rule to make target `NARS_ADDON.pnml', needed by `NARS_ADDON_SET.nml'. Stop." 02:01:53 <Eddi|zuHause> you might be in the wrong subdirectory 02:02:16 <NekoMaster> I'm in the directory where my NARS_ADDON_SET.pnml file sists 02:02:29 <Eddi|zuHause> without _SET 02:02:30 <NekoMaster> D:\GRF PROJECTS\NARS_ADDON_SET 02:03:09 <NekoMaster> Thats where "NARS_ADDON_SET.pnml" is 02:03:21 <NekoMaster> and my gfx, lang, and src folders 02:03:33 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but it's looking for NARS_ADDON.pnml, not NARS_ADDON_SET.pnml 02:03:59 <NekoMaster> I know that, I changed the name of stuff and I can't figure out how to make it compile with the new name 02:04:16 <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, you need to update the makefile... 02:04:22 <NekoMaster> I dunno how to do that 02:04:53 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i can't help you with that. either you learn to speak makefile, or you undo the renaming 02:09:22 <NekoMaster> I already looked in the makefile and makefile.config and replaced all instances of NARS_ADDON with NARS_ADDON_SET 02:09:43 *** smoke_fumus [~smoke_fum@188.35.176.90] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 02:09:45 <NekoMaster> I can't find anything else that is NARS ADDON or NARS_ADDON 02:16:38 <NekoMaster> now I'm getting this after renaming the file back to NARS_ADDON.pnml 02:16:39 <NekoMaster> No rule to make target `gfx\diesel\EMD_E9.png', needed by `NARS_ADDON.nml'. Stop. 02:16:51 <NekoMaster> I don't even have a EMD_E9 in any of my files 02:16:57 <NekoMaster> or in my code 02:18:15 *** lugo__ [~lugo@pD950ED5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 02:19:05 <Eddi|zuHause> try one of the .dep files (which are usually automatically generated from the code) 02:19:29 <NekoMaster> dep file? 02:19:54 <NekoMaster> I did a search of my NARS_ADDON folder and there are no .dep files 02:22:14 <Eddi|zuHause> strange, what kind of makefile are you using? 02:22:46 <NekoMaster> a makefile that came with some source code that Sylf made for my NARS ADDON project 02:23:04 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but where did he get the makefile from? 02:23:07 <NekoMaster> I dunno 02:23:10 <NekoMaster> askt hem 02:23:21 <NekoMaster> They're on linux 02:23:24 <NekoMaster> I'm on Windows 10 02:24:12 <Eddi|zuHause> what does that have to do with anything? 02:24:32 <NekoMaster> I dunno, maybe theres some linux tools that they used I dunno I just started doing stuff today 02:24:44 <NekoMaster> I've spent all week trying to make sense of NML and setting up sprites 02:25:35 *** lugo_ [~lugo@pD950C820.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:26:23 <Eddi|zuHause> well, maybe you should get a basic idea of what a makefile is now. 02:26:46 <NekoMaster> I dont even know where to start with that 02:27:14 <Eddi|zuHause> google is a good place to start learning about stuff 02:28:03 <NekoMaster> I still dont even konw why its complaining about a EMD_E9 when the only thing in that test code was NML code and a sprite for a EMD FP45 02:29:41 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i can't speak about your makefile, since i don't know anything about it, but how it usually works is that a tool will go through the source code, and read out all filenames referenced in there, then it puts that list into a .dep file to let make know which files are required to build the project 02:30:00 <Eddi|zuHause> and then if make doesn't find one of those files, it bails 02:30:12 <NekoMaster> Is there such a tool for windows? 02:30:30 <Eddi|zuHause> all the tools you need you already have 02:31:28 <Eddi|zuHause> both nmlc and gcc have a mode which output such dependencies 02:31:56 <NekoMaster> I'm looking on googe now on how to make a make file but I'm not getting what I want 02:32:01 <Eddi|zuHause> your problem is not with these tools, but that they find a dependency which you overlooked 02:32:59 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. one of your .pnml files references a EMD_E9.png file which doesn't exist 02:33:34 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2923C.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:33:35 <NekoMaster> I looked through my nml files 02:33:37 <Eddi|zuHause> possibly it doesn't have that name in the .pnml file, but only in the nml file 02:33:54 <NekoMaster> none of them have anything to do with a EMD E9 02:37:28 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 02:41:25 *** pereba [~adiirc@2804:7f2:80:455d:1887:f7da:2fe6:831b] has quit [Quit: You are invited to try a new irc client: AdiIRC [www.adiirc.com]] 02:41:27 *** Mazur [~mazur@5ED2923C.cm-7-3c.dynamic.ziggo.nl] has joined #openttd 02:48:24 <NekoMaster> now I'm getting another error and this makes no sense 02:48:25 <NekoMaster> [Knmlc ERROR: "src/diesel/DIESEL_EMD_FP45.pnml", line 10: Unrecognized identifier 'spriteset_diesel_emd_fp45_depot' encountered 02:48:42 <NekoMaster> Theres nothing at line 10 in DIESEL_EMD_FP45.pnml 02:49:05 <NekoMaster> I even changed some stuff around and it still saying the problem is at line 10 02:49:29 <Eddi|zuHause> are you sure you're editing the right file? 02:49:54 <NekoMaster> yes, there is only one Vehicle pnml 02:50:36 <NekoMaster> what the hell? I even changed the file name and it still says the same thing 02:54:25 <NekoMaster> ok i think i have to restart bash everytime i change something 02:54:44 <NekoMaster> it seems that bash doesnt see changes I make from the last attempt at make 02:55:18 <Eddi|zuHause> try "make -B" if that happens 02:55:33 <Eddi|zuHause> it usually means your dependencies are wrong 02:57:13 *** NekoMaster [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has left #openttd [] 02:57:45 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 03:00:59 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Bye] 03:26:50 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has joined #openttd 03:43:44 *** NekoMaster [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has joined #openttd 03:44:03 <NekoMaster> ungh 03:44:17 <NekoMaster> why do I keep getting the stupid errors that make no sense with nml 03:50:21 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 03:50:57 <NekoMaster> nmlc ERROR: "src/vehicleID.pnml", line 23: Syntax error, unexpected token "item" 03:51:31 <NekoMaster> Everything was just fine a moment ago, and all I did was edit some off sets in my template.pnml and this happened 03:56:56 <NekoMaster> im going to bed, these stupid errors are making my brain hurt 03:57:25 *** NekoMaster is now known as NekoMaster-dead 04:06:19 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest3477 04:06:20 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has joined #openttd 04:09:47 *** Guest3477 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 04:21:54 *** NekoMaster-dead [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has left #openttd [] 04:47:02 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 05:21:12 *** MonkeyDrone [~MonkDAce@80.88.255.39] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:21:36 *** MonkeyDrone [~MonkDAce@80.88.255.39] has joined #openttd 05:22:54 *** MonkeyDrone is now known as mi-gaming-bot 05:23:24 *** mi-gaming-bot is now known as 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Size, then would 34px be 9/8 and 36px be 10/8? 15:19:15 <Samu> testing OtviAI Original, NPF and YAPF ships 15:19:19 <Alberth> no need to announce it, just ask, and wait whether someone knows :) 15:19:34 <NekoMaster-Awake> I have a EMD DD40A sprite that is bigger then a 8/8 size sprite 15:19:40 <Eddi|zuHause> no, if 32 is 8/8, then 4 is 1/8 15:19:42 <NekoMaster-Awake> *DD35A 15:20:06 <Eddi|zuHause> which means for 9/8 you need 8/8+1/8 15:20:11 <NekoMaster-Awake> So sizes go up by 4px? 15:20:19 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 15:20:36 <NekoMaster-Awake> So then a 36x12px sprite would be 9/8 then? 15:20:47 <Eddi|zuHause> yes 15:21:08 <NekoMaster-Awake> ALright thanks, I'm just making sure to place the sprite size in my sprite sheets to help coders out 15:21:18 <NekoMaster-Awake> sometimes its not always obvious what size a sprite is 15:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> well, as long as you know the size of an 8/8 sprite, everything else is just simple 5th grade maths. 15:22:28 <peter1138> you'd think so 15:22:40 <NekoMaster-Awake> Well now I know 15:22:51 <NekoMaster-Awake> I always thought it went up or down by 2px 15:23:06 <Eddi|zuHause> well, i'm well aware that for most people, 5th grade math is not "simple" :p 15:23:08 <NekoMaster-Awake> its been a loooong time since i've done spirtes 15:23:18 <peter1138> are you unaware what fractions are? 15:24:22 <NekoMaster-Awake> I know what they are but the teacher I had back in Grade 2 and 3 wasnt very good at teaching fractions 15:24:41 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:24:56 <Eddi|zuHause> unfortunately, our school system is structured in a way that when you struggle at 5th grade math, you'll spend another 7 years "learning" maths that you don't know any of the foundations for, so essentially you learn nothing. 15:25:36 <NekoMaster-Awake> Then again I'm Canadian, American and Canadian school systems have some simlarities but both are noticably different 15:26:32 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm neither american nor canadian 15:43:54 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 15:47:58 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 15:48:07 *** NekoMaster-Awake [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has left #openttd [] 15:58:55 *** TheMask96 [martijn@wrath.vhost.ne2000.nl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:00:33 *** Tuhin [~Tuhin@103.58.74.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:04:42 *** TheMask96 [martijn@sloth.vhost.ne2000.nl] has joined #openttd 16:19:07 *** MonkeyDronez [~Monkey@84.255.174.223] has joined #openttd 16:25:31 *** MonkeyDAcez [~MonkDAce@80.88.255.39] has joined #openttd 16:32:05 *** MonkeyDrone [~MonkDAce@80.88.255.39] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 16:40:45 <NGC3982> The entire world sucks at math. 16:41:44 *** glx [~glx@000128ec.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 16:41:47 *** mode/#openttd [+v glx] by ChanServ 16:42:42 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 17:02:53 <MonkeyDronez> 1+1=3 17:02:56 <MonkeyDronez> proved u wrong 17:03:17 <MonkeyDronez> damn pessimistic hippies, i swear 17:06:25 <Alberth> I quite like math :) 17:06:50 <Alkel_U3> I thought that common stereotypes dictate that asians are born with a mathematic coprocessor in their heads 17:07:13 <Eddi|zuHause> i think you're racist. 17:07:23 <Alkel_U3> oops 17:08:56 *** Klanticus [~quassel@177.34.163.192] has joined #openttd 17:12:07 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@177.34.163.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 17:28:01 *** NekoMaster-Awake [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has joined #openttd 17:28:09 *** NekoMaster-Awake [~Matthew@108.161.120.204] has left #openttd [] 17:30:50 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18F84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 17:32:43 <Alberth> Math has very little to do with computing values, in my experience 17:34:41 <MonkeyDronez> lol 17:34:49 <MonkeyDronez> Asians are good at maths cause if we don't study maths 17:34:55 <MonkeyDronez> we get a god damn whooping with a stick or a belt 17:35:04 <MonkeyDronez> it's a cultural thing, nothing racist about it 17:35:54 <V453000> never do meth 17:36:06 <SpComb> meh 17:45:42 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27618 trunk/src/lang/latvian.txt (2016-07-18 19:45:36 +0200 ) 17:45:43 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 17:45:44 <DorpsGek> latvian: 19 changes by Parastais 17:49:27 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 17:49:48 <andythenorth> o/ 18:05:03 <Wolf01> o/ 18:05:59 <Wolf01> mmmh... I think I should prepare dinner or I'll miss even that 18:23:10 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7916/nettlebridge-dump-tram-rework.png 18:23:12 <andythenorth> V453000: ^ 18:23:21 <andythenorth> No. 3 still not good 18:23:27 <V453000> total shit, never attempt again 18:23:32 <andythenorth> considering something like https://c1.staticflickr.com/6/5059/5417687080_3669c0e822_b.jpg 18:23:47 <V453000> eh, it's not that bad <3 18:24:20 <V453000> you would probably have to make the black roof not-straight, having like a 1px dent 18:24:27 <V453000> to visualize that kind of shape 18:24:34 <V453000> now it looks like a box 18:25:37 <andythenorth> I can rework a train 18:26:16 <andythenorth> or so http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/iron-horse/repository/entry/src/graphics/baby_boat_0.png 18:26:34 <MonkeyDronez> V453000, can you connect to the server named as Player and start a company? 18:26:49 <MonkeyDronez> I get an annoying protocol error and get thrown back to the main menu 18:27:17 <V453000> possibly andythenorth :P 18:28:46 <V453000> MonkeyDronez: it has some FIRS 2, not joining that shitty server 18:28:58 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:29:03 * V453000 pokes andythenorth 18:29:50 <V453000> nice. a desync :D 18:29:59 <V453000> report it at bugs.openttd.org 18:30:11 <andythenorth> FIRS is full of bugs 18:30:13 <andythenorth> forums say so 18:30:22 <andythenorth> and nobody is debugging 18:30:35 <V453000> andythenorth: this is some desync when Player joins the game 18:30:39 <V453000> seriously weird shit 18:34:05 <andythenorth> Road Hog trams are as big as Iron Horse trains 18:34:10 <andythenorth> scale shit 18:35:47 <MonkeyDronez> weill report it 18:35:55 <MonkeyDronez> but if you think it has to do with FIRS 18:35:58 <MonkeyDronez> i'll find out in 5 mins 18:37:12 <MonkeyDronez> booted on vanilla :P 18:37:24 <V453000> andythenorth: RVs in general are usually 8/8 just like trains 18:37:29 <V453000> that's fine 18:37:48 <V453000> I would even say it is very nice, it gives the kind of feeling that 1 RV = 1 unit, just like 1 wagon 18:40:16 <MonkeyDronez> lol, same error and booted of reddit server. Safe to say it's something we will have to live with :p 18:41:21 <MonkeyDronez> (wrong company in DoCommand), i'll go over the python scripts later, looks like a variable issue 18:41:32 <MonkeyDronez> might find something 18:44:49 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 18:44:52 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai|noir] by ChanServ 18:48:58 *** MonkeyDronez [~Monkey@84.255.174.223] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:51:39 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 18:57:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6C56A.versanet.de] has joined #openttd 18:57:58 *** Rejf [rejf@nintendos.pl] has joined #openttd 18:58:51 <andythenorth> hmm 19:02:10 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:04:03 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:06:20 <Taede> wrong company in docommand likely has to do with the playAsPlayer setting (assuming soap) 19:06:43 <Taede> its only supposed to move pple who are named player to spectators, but sometimes that happens instead 19:11:16 <andythenorth> that tram needs to look more trammy 19:11:18 <andythenorth> like http://www.gunzelgallery.hobbiesplus.com.au/Rail0380.JPG 19:11:20 <andythenorth> or so 19:12:45 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:12:56 *** fjb_ [~frank@000158aa.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:15:57 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-109-91-72-28.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #openttd 19:28:12 <andythenorth> probably alright? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7917/dump-tram-capacities-2.png 19:28:54 <andythenorth> V453000: is win yet? ^ 19:28:57 <andythenorth> or is ass? 19:35:59 *** zeknurn [~sup@host-85-30-181-191.sydskane.nu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:36:27 *** zeknurn [~sup@host-85-30-181-191.sydskane.nu] has joined #openttd 19:37:16 *** sla_ro|master [~sla.ro@89.136.141.100] has quit [] 19:39:04 <Samu> counting pixels 19:39:25 <Samu> 9 per carriage for vehicle 1 19:39:32 <Samu> 20 per carriage for vehicle 2 19:39:36 <Samu> 21 per carriage for vehicle 3 19:39:57 <Samu> 36, 40, 42 19:44:16 *** tokai [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 19:44:19 *** mode/#openttd [+v tokai] by ChanServ 19:45:17 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has joined #openttd 19:46:03 *** Supercheese [~Superchee@cpe-76-178-137-142.natnow.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Valete omnes] 19:50:17 *** Arveen [~Arveen@ip-109-91-72-28.hsi12.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 19:51:15 *** tokai|noir [~tokai@00012860.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 19:53:36 <V453000> andythenorth: is very win 19:53:56 <andythenorth> good 19:54:01 <andythenorth> copy-paste ftw :P 19:54:18 <V453000> XD 19:55:33 <Milek7> it is possible to execute some code in SaveLoad struct? 19:57:08 <andythenorth> open trams also http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/7918/open-tram-capacities.png 19:57:22 *** Klanticus_ [~quassel@177.34.163.192] has joined #openttd 19:57:56 <V453000> those are ultra cute 19:57:59 <V453000> the n1 is a bit odd 19:58:17 <V453000> goes very low, and the bottom 1-color-area seems unfinished 19:58:25 <andythenorth> not chibi enough 19:58:31 <andythenorth> itâs from British Tram Set 19:58:35 <andythenorth> might need work 19:58:43 <V453000> I would expose the wheels like on the trailers 19:58:57 <V453000> that will get mostly rid of the 1-color area, and make it more consistent nicer with wagons 19:59:25 <andythenorth> +1 20:00:57 <andythenorth> or just redraw it 20:01:07 <V453000> no need to really 20:01:18 *** Klanticus [~quassel@177.34.163.192] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:05:04 <andythenorth> now I need to make some neat box trams 20:06:14 <V453000> doing basic visual concepts for my train set atm :) 20:06:24 <V453000> is fun 20:07:14 <Alberth> better than visual basic concepts :p 20:07:59 <V453000> definitely 20:09:41 <Milek7> std::bitset is bad 20:14:56 <andythenorth> compiling kills my battery :( 20:15:49 <Wolf01> plug the power cord 20:16:38 <andythenorth> requires child to go to sleep 20:16:43 <andythenorth> power cord not here 20:17:20 <andythenorth> V453000: draw me this in 8bpp pixels, plz? https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7516/16182656836_c4bdb588bd_b.jpg 20:17:24 <andythenorth> for oil tanker tram 20:17:34 <V453000> haha 20:17:37 <andythenorth> (no fire, just stores steam from a big static boiled) 20:17:40 <andythenorth> boiler * 20:17:41 <V453000> I will try tomorrow, I promise 20:17:49 <andythenorth> more weird looking shit needed 20:17:52 <V453000> send me some of your tram spritesheets so that I can make it compatible 20:17:55 <andythenorth> stuff got too vanilla 20:18:30 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/road-hog/repository/entry/src/graphics/drumbreck_0.png 20:18:32 <andythenorth> needs to be 4/8 20:18:34 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4e31ed99.dyn.telefonica.de] has joined #openttd 20:18:42 <andythenorth> most views of the engine on that sheet are 3/8! 20:18:44 <andythenorth> bad views :P 20:18:51 <V453000> ._. 20:19:00 * andythenorth unifying all the lengths 20:19:02 <andythenorth> because better 20:20:54 <V453000> so just give me some boxes which are the correct size XD 20:21:01 <V453000> cba figuring it out with your offsets etc 20:21:09 <andythenorth> I make a commit 20:22:00 <V453000> alrite 20:22:39 <andythenorth> this needed here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_the_Fuck_to_Sleep 20:23:11 <andythenorth> V453000: this one http://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/road-hog/repository/entry/src/graphics/drumbreck_0.png 20:23:14 <V453000> nice book 20:23:22 <V453000> alright 20:23:27 <V453000> gonna start from dumbwreck 20:25:27 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has joined #openttd 20:29:12 *** lugo__ [~lugo@pD950ED5F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:33:24 *** Alberth [~alberth@2001:981:c6c5:1:be5f:f4ff:feac:e11] has left #openttd [] 20:36:31 *** Myhorta [~Myhorta@00018fad.user.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 20:42:38 *** Gja [~Martin@93-167-84-102-static.dk.customer.tdc.net] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)] 21:00:36 *** andythenorth [~Andy@cpc87201-aztw31-2-0-cust156.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: andythenorth] 21:15:54 *** gelignite [~gelignite@x4e31ed99.dyn.telefonica.de] has quit [Quit: http://bit.ly/1kso8Ta] 21:23:43 *** Progman [~progman@p57A18F84.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:12:12 *** NoShlomo [~NoShlomo@90.74.151.136] has quit [Quit: NoShlomo] 22:17:33 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [] 22:20:15 *** Eddi|zuHause [~johekr@p5DC66053.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #openttd 22:34:05 <Samu> testing 4 ship ais 22:34:46 <Samu> npf nocab, yapf/original/npf otviai 22:35:23 <Samu> 1990, 2047, 2047, 1983 22:36:21 <Samu> it appears otviai prefers npf 22:36:36 <Samu> but it's slow with it 22:40:24 *** sim-al2 [~sim-al2@108-221-157-231.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 22:56:32 <Wolf01> 'night 22:56:34 *** Wolf01 [~wolf01@0001288e.user.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Once again the world is quick to bury me.] 23:05:19 <Wormnest> I think I have most ship problems of nonocab fixed now need to test it to make sure 23:09:36 *** Wormnest [~Wormnest@s5596abd2.adsl.online.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:22:09 *** HerzogDeXtEr [~farci@i59F6C56A.versanet.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:52:51 *** FLHerne [~flh@cpc4-papw5-2-0-cust175.5-3.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: There's a real world out here!]