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Log for #openttd on 9th August 2016:
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02:51:13  <supermop_> Eddi|zuHause: maybe you need to let google spy on you a bit more to learn what to recommend?
02:52:24  <Eddi|zuHause> "big data is like XML/alcohol/violence. if it doesn't solve your problem, you're not using enough of it
02:52:28  <Eddi|zuHause> "
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05:53:18  <V453000> iz frog?
05:53:30  <Supercheese> kroak
05:59:30  <V453000> tbh I had no idea what is the word for "frog sounds" in english up to today :D
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06:01:59  <Supercheese> apparently "ribbit"
06:02:10  <Supercheese> although whoever came up with that was nuts
06:04:24  <V453000> XD
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06:10:16  <Alberth> o/
06:12:49  <V453000> iz frog?
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06:56:36  <Alberth> too early for frogs
06:58:25  * V453000 points to the BRIX thread
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07:03:51  <Alberth> ha!   great gift V!  :D
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08:52:16  <MonkeyDrone> sprite_cache_size_px = 512 is max?
08:58:47  <Alberth> that's what misc_settings.ini says
09:04:20  <V453000> :>
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09:35:48  <MonkeyDrone> Alberth: no such file exists here
09:39:20  <Alberth> trunk/src/table/misc_settings.ini  doesn't exist?
09:40:10  <Alberth> or with a shell:  find src -name misc_settings.ini -print        :)
09:42:46  <MonkeyDrone> Alberth: oh, sorry, i was lagging on the client-side on my server cause huge cities. Read someone said to increase the cache size to help improve the zoom-out lag.
09:42:59  <MonkeyDrone> thank you Alberth, I sitll have not started looking at the code :D
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09:48:25  <Alberth> :)  and o/
09:51:14  <V453000> \o
09:55:07  <Samu> https://www.facebook.com/CBF/videos/10154234935192640 - keks
09:58:45  <Samu> i suspect trans will bankrupt
09:59:15  <Samu> £494k
09:59:25  <Samu> with over 1000 lost ships
09:59:40  <Samu> negative profit of -£200k a quarter
10:00:20  <Samu> in a year, maybe less, it bankrupts t.t
10:03:31  <Alberth> how nice :p
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10:37:20  <Wolf01> o/
11:04:55  <Alberth> o/
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12:13:27  <Wolf01> I need to find something satisfying to do, right now
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12:29:02  <Alberth> build lego
12:37:16  <Wolf01> No, no fantasy this period :/
12:49:45  <Wolf01> I should restart writing the book with the story for my upcoming point and click game... maybe I'll be able to finish it in the next 10 years
12:52:49  <MonkeyDrone> should i be worried that my laptop's maximum brightness is no longer 'bright'
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13:08:30  <Flygon> MonkeyDrone: Get new flourescent tubes
13:09:14  <MonkeyDrone> damn, didn't even know you could do that. thanks Flygon
13:09:26  <Flygon> Uhm
13:09:29  <Flygon> To make it clear
13:09:33  <Flygon> THIS IS NOT EASY
13:09:41  <Flygon> It's easier to just replace the entire LCD panel
13:09:55  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, i was about to say that
13:09:59  <Eddi|zuHause> just replace the whole display
13:10:17  <MonkeyDrone> Flygon: well if the replacement parts are resonably priced, i don't mind experimenting, i have to replace this laptop soon anyway
13:10:25  <Wolf01> It's even worse if you try to install fluorescent tubes when your LCD is LED
13:10:26  <Flygon> Hm
13:10:30  <Flygon> That's the thing
13:10:42  <Flygon> A new LCD panel is probably cheaper than tubes designed for your panel
13:10:46  <Flygon> And Wolf01 has a point, hahaha
13:11:03  <Flygon> Especially if it's an OLED :D
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13:11:13  <Eddi|zuHause> an LED panel is unlikely to drop in brightness that quickly, i suppose
13:11:28  <Flygon> But, yeah. Seriously, getting a new panel outright is prolly cheaper and easier.
13:11:50  <Flygon> And depending on the laptop's age and popularity
13:11:57  <Flygon> It may even be cheaper than manufacturing price
13:12:10  <Flygon> But that's a very particular economic sweet spot
13:12:26  <Flygon> Of course, even then
13:12:30  <Flygon> Depending on the laptop model
13:12:36  <Flygon> You might get away with a non-spec LCD...
13:12:58  <MonkeyDrone> it's lcd
13:13:00  <Flygon> I've heard of 4:3 Thinkpads getting their 1024*768 monitors replaced with 2560*1920 ones of the same dimensions
13:13:06  <Flygon> And actually working
13:13:15  <MonkeyDrone> let's check amazon ;p
13:13:21  <Flygon> Anyway, uhm
13:13:22  <MonkeyDrone> Flygon: that would be brilliant
13:13:29  <Flygon> I'll let the others here handle this from here-on in
13:13:33  <Flygon> They got more experience
13:13:35  <Flygon> I just know the theory
13:13:42  <MonkeyDrone> heh, it's cool Flygon, replacing whole unit would be cheaper
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14:03:10  <NGC3982> I guess this is the official channel for Factorio these days.
14:03:11  <NGC3982> \o/
14:03:46  <MonkeyDrone> NGC3982: don't know what you are high on but I would like to take a whiff of that too
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14:15:05  <Wolf01> MonkeyDrone, he's right
14:15:22  <MonkeyDrone> Wolf01: how so?
14:18:20  <Alberth> just walk in here while people are playing factorio
14:22:42  <Flygon> It's still a better situation than TCRF's official IRC somehow turning into #australiantv for 8 hours of the day
14:22:58  <Flygon> As it turns out
14:23:07  <Flygon> Australian TV channels are streamed online in .m3u8 form
14:23:21  <Flygon> And lots of people have Getflix...
14:23:32  <Flygon> So we ended up watching TV together :|
14:23:40  <Flygon> Like teenagers on phones from the 90s
14:25:35  <Wolf01> I did it so many times with IRC
14:25:59  <peter1138> m3u8 is just a playlist file...
14:26:12  <Wolf01> It's fun to comment TV programs with friends :P
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15:05:35  <Samu> trans is about to bankrupt, negative money in bank
15:06:37  <Samu> 1140 lost ships
15:06:41  <Samu> in the same route
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15:43:47  <Eddi|zuHause> peter1138: is that like an executable in .lnk format?
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16:32:52  <Samu> hmm providing a replay for trans isn't possible :( but i wanted to
16:32:58  <Samu> it takes too long to save
16:33:27  <Samu> wanted to show 1140 lost ships to the author lol :o
16:34:51  <Samu> hmm maybe it is possible, if my spectator instance saves instead
16:35:03  <Samu> let me try
16:35:52  <Samu> wow, why didn't i think of it earlier
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16:54:28  <frosch123> hoi
17:04:43  <V453000> quak
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17:08:48  <frosch123> he, a frog statue .p
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17:10:00  <frosch123> i recall considering buying the custom-object tier in pikkas fundraiser
17:10:01  <V453000> :)
17:10:03  <Alberth> quak, very nice gift :)
17:10:05  <V453000> XD
17:10:19  <frosch123> got it cheaper now :p
17:10:22  <V453000> you got it for free plus a lot of your work over the years :P
17:10:40  <V453000> foundations are fixed and pushed now
17:11:26  <frosch123> yeah, they work well for the "stacked foundations"
17:11:28  <V453000> x1 that is
17:11:42  <frosch123> they do not have these weird lines between them, which the regular ones have
17:11:43  <V453000> the x4 was fixed last night already
17:11:54  <V453000> yeah I think they turned out pretty nice
17:14:07  <Alberth> one step closer to vertical walls :p
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17:31:19  <andythenorth> we need daylength
17:34:33  <Eddi|zuHause> so, i recently played civ4 again, and the same thing happened that always happens... i focus too much on building up my cities and getting some wonders, that the moment the first person declares war on me, i get overrun completely...
17:35:18  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: you are not a paranoid person
17:35:22  <andythenorth> afaict
17:35:32  <andythenorth> not helpful in a game like that :)
17:36:03  <Eddi|zuHause> i still dislike that in marathon mode the units take longer to build
17:36:20  <Eddi|zuHause> build time increase should only be for buildings, so you can have epicly huge armies
17:36:51  <Eddi|zuHause> also, you can get reinforcements easier
17:38:51  <Eddi|zuHause> now, i could roll back the game 20 turns and try to cancel the wonders and build an army..
17:39:00  <Eddi|zuHause> or start a new game where i'm alone on an island
17:39:01  <Eddi|zuHause> or something
17:46:11  <Alberth> first build army and conqueror world, then bring peace and nice cities :p
17:52:27  <frosch123> the civ version i played were always: the easier the start, the harder later on
17:52:53  <frosch123> the toughest survives, and the toughest is defines by training
17:53:15  <frosch123> if you are alone on an island, you probably lose
17:53:31  <Eddi|zuHause> yes
17:53:44  <frosch123> if you are with 5 on an island, you probably lose early, or win everything
17:53:50  <Eddi|zuHause> especially, if you're alone the others will trade tech with each other and get ahead
17:54:14  <frosch123> same in moo2 actually :)
17:54:40  <frosch123> if there are creative and weak spies in some corner, you are in trouble
17:54:59  <frosch123> the creatives research everything, the spies steal everything, and the others conquer the spies
17:55:09  <frosch123> because noone likes the spies
17:55:49  <Eddi|zuHause> i usually play uncreative with some spy efficience
17:56:29  <Eddi|zuHause> also, unification
17:56:43  <frosch123> i never played uncreative, isn't it pretty much luck with the important techs on the first tiers?
17:57:28  <Eddi|zuHause> doesn't really matter that much, imho
17:57:48  <Eddi|zuHause> of the really important techs, you generally have an impossible choice anyway
17:58:13  <Eddi|zuHause> and you can go spying for those rather quickly
17:58:50  <MonkeyDrone> god damn my ottd crashes a lot x.x
17:59:19  <MonkeyDrone> where do i spam the crash logs? :P
17:59:45  <Eddi|zuHause> bugs.openttd.org
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18:08:37  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: in civ 4 i found that the only way i could reliably win one of the non-boring wins was to conquer the world in antiquity
18:09:03  <supermop> but then you miss out on all the neat unit upgrades
18:09:03  <MonkeyDrone> cheers
18:09:07  <MonkeyDrone> get rekt V453000 http://i.imgur.com/tF3X9ky.png
18:09:21  <Eddi|zuHause> i usually aim for a cultural win, especially if i manage to get the sistine chapel
18:09:25  <V453000> MonkeyDrone: ?
18:09:33  <supermop> me too,
18:09:46  <MonkeyDrone> ah nothing, that bridge looks so bad, RAWR didn't have bridges?
18:10:04  <supermop> you cant easily conquer earth with modern armor in the 1990s like in civ 3
18:10:16  <V453000> yes, that is an opengfx bridge
18:10:23  <V453000> RAWR doesn't have bridges, BRIX does
18:10:37  <Eddi|zuHause> i once got a religious victory, by giving one of the last enemies, who was a theocracy, a city with my religion. then the victory vote came up, and since they had barely any votes i could just win
18:10:52  <MonkeyDrone> V453000: sweeet, can't wait <3
18:10:59  <V453000> you can :P
18:11:14  <supermop> after many plays through i got tired of winning with UN or space ship
18:11:16  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: i can usually overrun anyone by the time i get mobile infantry
18:11:26  <Eddi|zuHause> but that is really tedious
18:11:32  <supermop> but i always dislike warring
18:12:04  <supermop> but the unit xp made it sort of fun, but then i spent too long trying to optimized unit upgrades
18:12:43  <Eddi|zuHause> there was a game where the only fighting units the guy had were generals
18:13:08  <supermop> better to get elephants or something asap and get your continent or hemisphere locked down soon
18:13:25  <Eddi|zuHause> and then there was a game where the guy didn't have any fighting units at all beyond the starting warrior
18:13:29  <supermop> were the free city-states in ci4 or 5?
18:13:39  <Eddi|zuHause> that was civ5
18:14:02  <supermop> i kind of wish they could get a little stronger
18:14:13  <supermop> what about vassal states?
18:14:19  <supermop> 4?
18:14:30  <Eddi|zuHause> vassal states existed in civ4
18:14:37  <Eddi|zuHause> but i never quite got the point of those
18:14:48  <supermop> yeah
18:17:17  <supermop> once in architecture school studio i had a long running civ 4 game going on with a grad student studio next to us
18:17:53  <supermop> but eventually it got unworkable you'd be waiting all day for a guy who was in the wood shop to do his turn
18:19:17  <supermop> also i would always rush to get all of the religions
18:19:53  <Eddi|zuHause> that's what always was weird to me, you either get all the religions or none of them
18:20:31  <Eddi|zuHause> i just always went advanced start and gave me the first religion tech, then i did not bother with the rest
18:23:41  <supermop> i mean irl a few countries have most adherents locked down
18:23:56  <supermop> India has a pretty broad batch
18:24:28  <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, maybe, but there's no real reason why it would be tied to tech then
18:25:51  <supermop> I am sure ancient India had a science department furiously researching - "come on guys we have to invent Buddhism before China does!"
18:27:00  <supermop> also the idea of 'researching' polytheism is sort of funny
18:38:38  <supermop> wedding photos came back
18:39:06  <Samu> http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/698259/Rio-2016-olympics-north-South-Korea-gymnast-selfie - :o
18:39:19  <supermop> i should just hire a photographer to follow me around on vacations to take photos for me
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18:41:25  <NGC3982> That's cool.
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18:55:53  <Samu_> how does the bankrupt warnings work?
18:56:09  <Samu_> trans is at -£1M and still not out
18:57:26  <Samu_> he's been selling ships but it's still negative
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19:02:38  <supermop> i am constantly surprised every time i hear that Kissinger is still alive
19:02:52  <andythenorth> me too
19:05:06  <supermop> he never struck me as being abnormally healthy
19:05:19  <supermop> he already looks old in pictures from the 60s
19:05:33  <supermop> and looks more or less the same now as in the 70s
19:06:12  <andythenorth> maybe he has a picture in an attic
19:06:14  <andythenorth> aging
19:06:29  <Eddi|zuHause> i think that was a movie :p
19:06:35  <Eddi|zuHause> (or a book)
19:41:43  <MonkeyDrone> 50 bucks we never see the N.Korea olympic athele ever again after that selfie
19:43:08  <Eddi|zuHause> do i want to care?
19:49:31  <MonkeyDrone> well it's 50 bucks, do you like to earn 50 bucks?
19:50:24  <Eddi|zuHause> no.
19:50:46  <Eddi|zuHause> money is a terrible nuisance
19:51:53  <MonkeyDrone> haha
19:52:00  <MonkeyDrone> ah well anyways, i'm off to bed
19:52:09  <MonkeyDrone> goodnight folks
19:53:04  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: can i have 50 bucks
19:53:23  <Eddi|zuHause> sure, make a bet with MonkeyDrone
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20:47:33  <Samu_> it finally bankrupted!
20:47:39  <Samu_> rip trans
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20:51:34  <Samu_> nonocab npf ships reached 2051
20:51:47  <Samu_> only 1 game remains and I am finally done with ships!
20:51:52  <Samu_> horray!!!
20:52:12  <Samu_> never really expected it would be too slow
20:58:17  <Wolf01> Nice, got a steam serial for a desura game
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22:34:15  <Samu_> 2023
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23:00:55  <Wolf01> 'night
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