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00:06:00 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 00:20:31 *** Rebecca has left #openttd 00:33:40 *** JezK_ has joined #openttd 00:50:57 *** kais58 has quit IRC 01:09:19 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 01:30:55 *** mindlesstux_ has joined #openttd 01:36:05 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 01:36:05 *** mindlesstux_ is now known as mindlesstux 01:54:29 *** alask0ud has quit IRC 02:17:55 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 02:26:53 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 02:48:04 *** glx has quit IRC 03:14:13 *** supermop has quit IRC 03:20:56 *** mescalito has joined #openttd 03:41:53 *** Hiddenfunstuff has joined #openttd 03:43:17 *** Snail has quit IRC 05:01:56 <Lejving> is it possible to make a train switch so every other train picks the road? 05:03:54 <Eddi|zuHause> and what would a train do on the road? 05:05:36 <Lejving> :( 05:05:41 <Lejving> every other train go forward on the rail 05:05:50 <Lejving> I meant 05:09:39 <Eddi|zuHause> are you looking for a "load balancer"? 05:11:10 <Lejving> I don't think so 05:12:02 <Lejving> I have 8 ways in to a station, 4 southwest, 4 northeast... I want the trains to pick alternate route in if one route is already full 05:12:47 <Eddi|zuHause> you might need to tweak some pathfinder penalties for that 05:14:03 <Lejving> http://i.imgur.com/0wigU8K.jpg 05:14:08 <Lejving> if this explains it a lil better 05:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> Lejving: the pathfinder has penalties for red signals and reserved track, if these penalties are higher than the length of the detour, then the detour is taken 05:16:11 <Lejving> ok 05:16:31 <Lejving> I think I will solve it like this instead, just have trains trace backwards 05:16:37 <Lejving> that means a shorter route 06:39:49 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:01:40 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 07:08:21 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 07:08:55 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 07:11:37 *** efess has quit IRC 07:20:15 *** Sova has joined #openttd 07:24:17 *** Flygon_ has quit IRC 07:39:47 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest274 07:39:48 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 07:44:47 *** Guest274 has quit IRC 08:02:03 *** JezK_ has quit IRC 08:17:54 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 08:17:59 <Wolf01> Moin 08:30:23 <Sova> morning 08:36:45 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 08:47:25 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 08:57:17 *** Sova has quit IRC 08:57:58 *** Sova has joined #openttd 09:05:21 *** efess has joined #openttd 09:19:17 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 09:21:10 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 10:10:22 *** Sova has quit IRC 10:36:51 *** Sova has joined #openttd 10:49:47 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 10:57:50 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 12:19:52 *** Snail has joined #openttd 12:35:05 *** Hagbard has quit IRC 12:49:45 *** LadyHawk- has joined #openttd 12:55:18 *** LadyHawk has quit IRC 12:55:20 *** LadyHawk- is now known as LadyHawk 12:57:46 *** Snail has quit IRC 13:07:02 <argoneus> good morning train friends 13:09:25 <Sova> trainz are for nubz, use ships 13:10:46 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 13:19:43 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 13:23:20 <V453000> yomf 13:42:19 <_dp_> train deceleration is weird... 13:43:14 <_dp_> any idea why cur_speed of train stopping on station goes 25 -> 5 -> 7 ... ->25 ? 13:44:54 <_dp_> especially how does that 25 -> 5 drop happen, it's not in UpdateSpeed 13:45:10 <_dp_> train is already at the end of a station at that moment 13:45:48 <V453000> I don't want to know why do you want to know this shit XD 13:46:06 * goodger mutters something about going from 320 km/h to 0 in 3 m of track 13:48:40 *** supermop has joined #openttd 13:53:51 <_dp_> hm, and it stops at 8363, 16360 sub-tile coordinates 13:54:06 <_dp_> I get 16360 part, but 8363... 13:54:14 <_dp_> @calc 8363 / 16 13:54:14 <DorpsGek> _dp_: 522.6875 13:56:04 <V453000> 666 14:09:19 <_dp_> apparently train always stops on (11, 8) or (8, 11) sub-coordinate 14:16:29 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 14:17:43 <_dp_> and single loco stops at (4, 8) and (8, 11), wtf 14:21:50 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 14:22:23 *** supermop has quit IRC 14:29:08 *** Gja has joined #openttd 14:32:42 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 14:32:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 14:33:31 <Alberth> o/ 14:40:12 *** supermop has joined #openttd 14:40:42 <_dp_> hm, and train keeps sub-tile progress while staying on station... 14:43:26 <_dp_> seems logical 14:44:33 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 14:58:06 *** Sova has quit IRC 15:32:42 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 15:32:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 15:32:56 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:33:00 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 15:39:34 *** tokai has quit IRC 15:44:54 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 15:53:49 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 15:57:42 *** Gja has quit IRC 16:25:58 <supermop> ok V453000 , i dragged myself kicking and screaming, into using v ray and learning how to use its materials, mapping, and unwraping over the past week 16:29:22 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:36:21 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:37:15 <V453000> :D 16:37:17 <V453000> fun times 16:37:25 <V453000> it's nice that you have such time to learn things 16:40:12 *** keoz has joined #openttd 16:46:32 *** Gja has joined #openttd 16:47:00 *** Clockworker has quit IRC 16:47:33 *** Clockworker has joined #openttd 16:47:48 *** Clockworker has quit IRC 16:49:07 *** Clockworker_ has joined #openttd 16:50:27 *** Clockworker_ is now known as Clockworker 17:17:23 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:17:55 <Alberth> it does make a lot of noise though :p 17:26:00 <_dp_> how to translate train progress to sub-tile coordinates? for example (8, 16) with progress 128 / 256, where is it? 17:28:59 <_dp_> no matter what I do I can't get continuous line :( 17:32:40 <Alberth> 128 / 256 is just a fraction, ie 0.5 17:34:19 <Alberth> continuous line depends on your precision, if you think in 1/256 parts, it's continuous :) 17:34:51 <Alberth> but yeah not in 7 or 15 digits, only in 2 or so 17:35:37 <Alberth> still a lot better than the first time I used floating point, where the implementation modified 1.0 to 0.92 :p 17:38:44 <_dp_> well, it's obviously discrete, but dumped values from game and I'm trying to plot a train position with them. So far they don't add up: http://imgur.com/a/HQhjc 17:39:22 <_dp_> see those jumps on reverse and going to diagonal? 17:40:14 *** keoz has quit IRC 17:41:30 <Alberth> I think you'll find that too if you save every image, the train does not get painted at every pixel 17:41:39 <Alberth> likely it does jump 17:41:59 <Alberth> but fast enough to make use believe it doesn't :) 17:42:25 <_dp_> I'm not talking about visuals here 17:42:59 <_dp_> it goes 13 subtiles when going up a tile and 12 when going down, it must be a bug 17:43:21 <Alberth> sounds like it indeed 17:43:33 *** alask0ud has joined #openttd 17:43:50 <Alberth> or at least something worth finding out why 17:45:19 <_dp_> yeah, that's what I'm trying to do) 17:45:33 <_dp_> but it depend on how to interpret progress 17:47:41 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:47:57 <Alberth> o/ 17:54:43 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:54:58 <andythenorth> o/ 17:56:02 <Alberth> \o 17:59:03 <frosch123> hoi 18:01:06 <Alberth> _dp_: If you take a platform of eg 5 tiles long, and a train exactly 5 tiles long, and it leaves the platform, on flat tiles, then progress should be the same in every main compass direction, after taking main direction into account, would be my guess 18:01:37 <Alberth> or at least on the same main axis it should be 18:02:12 <Alberth> you should be able to put those numbers next to each other, and compare 18:06:00 *** mescalito has quit IRC 18:26:05 <_dp_> ok, I think I got it right) http://imgur.com/a/din3a 18:26:05 <_dp_> x + int(dx == -1) + dx * progress 18:26:31 <_dp_> where dx dy come from current train direction 18:31:16 <_dp_> then, yeah, reverse is one subtile off: http://imgur.com/a/Dz9yb 18:42:56 <Alberth> good hunt! 18:48:01 <supermop> V453000: involved being in the office until past 9 saturday, sunday, monday, and yesterday 18:48:15 <supermop> had presentation to client today 18:53:11 <andythenorth> how does one edit hg history? 18:53:23 <andythenorth> I’ve got files committed that devzone won’t permit 18:53:28 <andythenorth> ah fuck it 18:53:33 <andythenorth> standard hg, just delete the repo :( 18:54:48 <andythenorth> I love using a vcs where my only viable strategy for mistakes is ‘redo the work’ :P 18:56:10 <frosch123> hg qimport 18:59:40 * andythenorth reads docs 19:04:05 *** mescalito has joined #openttd 19:04:22 *** glx has joined #openttd 19:04:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:04:45 <andythenorth> hmm 19:04:56 <andythenorth> I have completely borked this repo 19:08:41 <Wolf01> I completely borked the Claas instead, I'm adding motors :P 19:09:23 <andythenorth> ha 19:14:07 <Wolf01> Moved the battery box on the front attachment, I have plenty of space to add motors now 19:14:49 <andythenorth> hmm 19:14:57 <andythenorth> project that starts this badly is jinxed 19:15:03 <andythenorth> I’ll have to find another name 19:15:08 <andythenorth> hg literally lies to me 19:15:23 <andythenorth> “hg st” and “hg add .” are just not accurate 19:17:06 <frosch123> what are you actually doing? 19:17:17 <frosch123> copying fish without history? 19:17:22 <frosch123> or starting from scratch? 19:18:25 <andythenorth> copying the fish .hgignore, and files, but not .hg 19:18:29 <andythenorth> or .hgtags 19:18:30 <andythenorth> etc 19:18:52 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 19:23:37 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:34:14 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 19:34:54 <Eddi|zuHause> andy still didn't find the option to disable killing idle connections? 19:35:55 <_dp_> need newgrf with loco that has odd length 19:37:26 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:38:10 <frosch123> _dp_: "debug vehicles" has all lengths 19:38:15 <frosch123> get it from bananas 19:38:39 <Eddi|zuHause> try CETS for added fun 19:45:46 *** Progman has quit IRC 19:50:16 <_dp_> frosch123, indeed, ty 19:57:24 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:07:24 *** Wolf03 has joined #openttd 20:07:24 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest328 20:07:24 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 20:12:09 *** Guest328 has quit IRC 20:16:40 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:16:51 <supermop> so deadline was today 20:18:45 *** Lejving has quit IRC 20:19:15 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 20:19:43 <supermop> and already worked more that 40 hours so far this week 20:20:00 <supermop> so i can just not do anything now, right? 20:20:09 <supermop> maybe i wont show up tomorrwo 20:20:50 <Eddi|zuHause> better communicate that intent with your boss beforehand :p 20:20:51 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:24:57 *** Hiddenfunstuff has quit IRC 20:30:36 <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: he's in france! 20:30:47 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 20:30:55 <Eddi|zuHause> how is that relevant? 20:32:14 <supermop> might make him less likely to need me in the office 20:44:29 <Eddi|zuHause> presence in the office is rarely about being needed, but about appearing to be busy 20:52:41 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:54:02 <supermop> neither is boss here to see me being not busy 21:00:59 <Wolf01> andythenorth: https://youtu.be/p6qlxz2u2zQ?t=373 21:01:31 *** Macha has joined #openttd 21:07:59 * andythenorth looks 21:09:21 <andythenorth> train thing 21:26:22 <andythenorth> bed :) 21:26:23 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:27:55 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:32:52 *** Gja has quit IRC 21:44:22 *** Macha has quit IRC 21:45:03 *** Wolf03 has joined #openttd 21:45:03 *** Wolf01 is now known as Guest342 21:45:03 *** Wolf03 is now known as Wolf01 21:51:09 *** Guest342 has quit IRC 22:01:45 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 22:03:15 *** Lejving has quit IRC 22:11:15 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 22:12:13 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:35:59 <_dp_> I hate removing one line fixes the bug 22:36:19 <_dp_> Now need to figure out who and why even added it 22:36:35 <_dp_> *when 22:38:29 <_dp_> crap, it's in r1... 22:40:51 <Wolf01> Which bug? 22:43:38 <_dp_> check log, train moves extra subtile 22:44:23 <_dp_> and jumps after reverse 22:46:48 <Wolf01> Oh ok 22:47:00 <Wolf01> Never noticed 22:48:09 <_dp_> yeah, you can't rly notice that in game, 22:49:00 *** Lejving has quit IRC 23:03:36 *** Lejving has joined #openttd 23:30:58 <Wolf01> 'night 23:31:02 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:56:58 *** Compu has quit IRC 23:59:38 *** trendynick has joined #openttd 23:59:42 *** Compu has joined #openttd