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Exception thrown: 'System.ServiceModel.CommunicationObjectAbortedException' in System.ServiceModel.dll 13:00:44 <Wolf01> But tests work, it happen after the tests 13:00:56 <andythenorth> the malware can’t communicate with it’s controller? o_O 13:01:00 *** Snail has quit IRC 13:01:06 <Wolf01> Seem so 13:01:08 * andythenorth is doing ISO 27001, all things now look like malware to me 13:01:47 <Wolf01> Web suggest to enable the Network DTC Access without authentication 13:01:55 <Wolf01> But nothing changes 13:41:05 <supermop__> good morning 13:48:10 *** Sova has joined #openttd 13:48:47 *** Sova has quit IRC 13:48:58 *** Sova has joined #openttd 13:55:58 *** keoz has quit IRC 14:04:37 *** Sova has quit IRC 14:14:06 *** keoz has joined #openttd 14:14:28 *** wCPO has joined #openttd 14:27:04 *** wCPO has quit IRC 14:32:29 *** Compu has quit IRC 14:32:40 *** Compu has joined #openttd 14:58:42 *** Compu has quit IRC 15:03:29 *** Compu has joined #openttd 15:05:32 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 15:34:14 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 15:34:35 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 15:37:50 *** wCPO has joined #openttd 15:41:09 *** keoz has quit IRC 15:44:19 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:50:06 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:58:05 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:58:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 16:05:46 <Wolf01> o/ 16:06:04 <Wolf01> I'm trying to understand if it's my fault.... Assert.AreEqual failed. Expected:<{X:0 Y:1}>. Actual:<{X:-4,371139E-08 Y:1}>. 16:07:12 *** wCPO has quit IRC 16:08:54 <Wolf01> Nothing that a nice Round() can't address, but heh 16:11:50 <Alberth> reals are approximations by definition 16:12:05 <Alberth> which means x == y is always 'false' 16:12:34 <Alberth> usually x == x holds, but not always either 16:13:04 <Wolf01> It is more int -> operation -> double -> operation -> float 16:13:42 <Wolf01> So decimals smells here 16:21:28 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 16:38:37 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:59:05 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:59:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:07:46 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 17:14:16 *** supermop__ has quit IRC 17:15:56 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 17:18:07 <andythenorth> cat time 17:18:32 <Alberth> o/ 17:26:24 <andythenorth> for me today is sponsored by anti-virus scanners 17:26:31 *** keoz has joined #openttd 17:26:54 <goodger> I am sponsored by WD40 today 17:30:53 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 17:31:32 <Alberth> cats don't like scans, I think 17:31:37 <andythenorth> not so much 17:31:46 <andythenorth> what a lot of windows trojans got found 17:31:52 <andythenorth> in ancient emails 17:32:10 <Alberth> oh, the good old times :p 17:32:26 * andythenorth ponders fish trams 17:32:33 <andythenorth> live fish 17:32:37 <Alberth> smelly :p 17:33:03 <Alberth> something reefer-ish? 17:34:26 *** yaHeiko has joined #openttd 17:34:36 <andythenorth> I was thinking a tank of water 17:34:38 <andythenorth> perhaps not :P 17:35:30 <Alberth> lobster tank 17:35:30 <andythenorth> I do need to do supply trams http://villamosok.hu/nza/7052mosz.jpg 17:35:34 *** keoz has quit IRC 17:35:36 <andythenorth> hmm 17:35:43 <andythenorth> are lobsters fish? 17:35:50 * andythenorth considers a FIRS seafood economy 17:36:01 <andythenorth> cod, eels, lobsters, crabs, shrimps 17:36:12 <goodger> they are crustaceans, but 'fish' is acladistic anyway 17:36:49 <Alberth> sea horses 17:37:00 <goodger> those are fish 17:37:52 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:38:56 <andythenorth> maybe I can patch nml now 17:39:09 <andythenorth> roadtypes and tramtypes? 17:39:14 <andythenorth> roadtypes and lightrailtypes? 17:39:16 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:39:19 <andythenorth> ach, find and replace it later 17:39:26 <Wolf01> Quak 17:39:42 <Alberth> o/ 17:39:43 <Wolf01> I would go for light rail 17:40:37 <Alberth> that makes the other one dark rail or heavy rail? 17:40:44 <goodger> I think the public has a right to know when OTTD will have tram-trains 17:40:55 <frosch123> mola 17:41:09 <andythenorth> goodger: the only safe answer is ‘never’ :) 17:41:26 <Alberth> hopefully before infinity 17:41:26 <goodger> yeah, that was a joke 17:59:57 <supermop_> andythenorth: see both trucks with tanks of fish here as well as tank like pallets 18:01:40 *** wCPO has joined #openttd 18:12:02 <Wolf01> <Alberth> that makes the other one dark rail or heavy rail? <- I think we could move narrow gauge to lightrails in future 18:12:32 <Wolf01> Too bad we don't have signals for roads... yet 18:13:11 <Alberth> signals would too much train-ish, imho 18:13:31 <Alberth> traffic lights may work 18:13:43 <Wolf01> Yes 18:15:36 <Wolf01> Also roundabouts, it shouldn't be so difficult to allow inversion on crossings 18:17:27 <Alberth> cant just build them as 3x3 tiles? 18:17:49 <Wolf01> Too much space in the middle of cities 18:18:06 <Wolf01> Also you can't put one way on curves 18:18:26 <Wolf01> So you need to make them 5x5 18:19:15 <Wolf01> Which could be nice for an industrial area junction, not much in the middle of a city 18:19:29 <Alberth> 2x2 and use eg 'left' side on all tiles? 18:20:15 <Wolf01> Still allow vehicles going the wrong way 18:20:40 <Alberth> 4x4 would be enough, you need only 1 tile with directin at a side 18:21:05 <Alberth> oh, 3x3, with connect at the side 18:21:13 <Alberth> but too big :) 18:21:14 <Wolf01> Bigger than 1x1 XD 18:21:35 <Alberth> :D 18:26:25 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 18:31:38 <Wolf01> What's the best way to clamp x = (CIRC - (float)d * hPI) between 0 <= x < CIRC? 18:33:38 <Wolf01> Just a "if (d == 0) return 0;"? 18:46:07 <Alberth> simplest way is to let nothing go wrong if x==CIRC, perhaps 18:46:21 <Wolf01> Test fail because 0 = 360 18:46:21 <Alberth> open upper limit is hard 18:46:59 *** wCPO has quit IRC 18:47:26 <Wolf01> "d" is limited, it's an enum with [RIGHT, UP, LEFT, DOWN] 18:47:36 <Wolf01> But RIGHT = 360 :D 18:48:15 <Alberth> make an array so you can just lookup the value 18:48:44 <Wolf01> It's already like that 18:49:16 <Wolf01> I mean, in game I don't really care if it's 0 or 360, but test... 18:49:46 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 18:49:58 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 18:50:16 <Alberth> I mean x = x_val[d] 18:50:56 <Alberth> where x_val is an array with 4 floats 18:51:13 <Wolf01> Eh, but I don't want to change 3 parts in the code just if I want to add a new direction in future 18:52:55 *** roidal has quit IRC 18:56:11 *** aard has joined #openttd 18:57:01 <andythenorth> hmm 18:57:23 <andythenorth> vehicles with special cargo aging or loading speed effects 18:57:29 <andythenorth> should the buy menu tell that? 18:58:25 <andythenorth> and if so, what to say? 19:00:24 <frosch123> entertainer on board - keep your livestock happy 19:09:07 <andythenorth> what about if it’s frozen fishfingers? 19:09:20 <andythenorth> they like entertainment too? o_O 19:10:02 <Alberth> they like frozen-ness 19:12:11 <frosch123> bad entertaienr on board - faster unload tmies 19:13:17 <andythenorth> lower payment rate also? 19:13:22 <andythenorth> I could randomise it per journey 19:14:17 <andythenorth> boring virus scan is boring 19:27:09 *** Gja has joined #openttd 19:28:02 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:41:07 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 19:50:42 <andythenorth> hmm, RH trams are really low capacity compared to RL 19:50:43 <andythenorth> nvm 19:57:24 <Wolf01> You never played Train Fever... trams for 5 passengers 20:00:49 <andythenorth> pax trams are a bit boss currently 20:00:57 <andythenorth> they have more power than an Iron Horse metro train 20:06:35 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:33:31 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:41:32 *** wCPO has joined #openttd 20:53:12 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:58:17 *** wCPO has quit IRC 21:01:34 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:12:37 *** Extrems has quit IRC 21:22:48 *** Extrems has joined #openttd 21:23:00 *** aard has quit IRC 21:36:28 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:37:34 <Eddi|zuHause> train fever was a bit extreme i think 21:37:56 *** yaHeiko has quit IRC 21:38:15 <goodger> too real-time 21:38:37 <Wolf01> I play it FF for the first 25-30 years 21:38:43 <Wolf01> Starting in 1850 21:39:18 <Wolf01> So I can play without money problems after :P 21:40:40 *** Myhorta has joined #openttd 21:45:08 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 21:45:14 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:46:21 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 21:47:59 *** supermop__ has joined #openttd 21:55:10 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:55:22 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 21:55:25 *** supermop has quit IRC 21:59:37 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 21:59:50 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 22:05:49 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 22:22:14 *** CompuDesktop has joined #openttd 22:27:22 *** Compu has quit IRC 22:50:57 *** wCPO has joined #openttd 22:54:09 <Wolf01> http://todayinsci.com/B/Baldwin_Matthias/BaldwinMatthias-HOP.htm if andy reads this thing he'll go full crazy 22:54:42 <Wolf01> Specially this part: "the locomotive engine built by Mr. M. W. Baldwin, of this city, will depart daily, when the weather is fair, with a train of passenger cars. On rainy days horses will be attached." 22:57:19 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 22:57:33 *** welshdragon has joined #openttd 23:03:04 *** SGunner2016 has joined #openttd 23:11:47 *** wCPO has quit IRC 23:14:53 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 23:16:09 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 23:17:09 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 23:17:54 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 23:19:00 <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/a37YAAQ_460sv.mp4 V453000, for factorio, this is a killer thing 23:20:37 <goodger> what the hell is the point of that last one 23:21:32 <Wolf01> Just for fun 23:24:04 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:25:09 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:29:43 <Wolf01> 'night 23:29:46 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:31:37 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 23:34:12 *** supermop_ has joined #openttd 23:35:21 *** Snail has joined #openttd 23:40:42 *** supermop has quit IRC 23:43:34 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 23:47:48 *** supermop has joined #openttd 23:53:35 *** supermop_ has quit IRC 23:58:19 *** JezK_ has joined #openttd