Log for #openttd on 9th November 2016:
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00:17:57  <Wolf01> 'night
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11:22:33  <Wolf01> o/
11:22:39  <Wolf01> So it happened
11:30:20  <Eddi|zuHause> so it did.
11:30:57  <Eddi|zuHause> now everyone can calm down and go on with their daily business... probably not :p
11:33:56  <crem> \o
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11:39:23  <Wolf01> This is unexpected, where did the first one go?
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11:59:37  <argoneus> good morning train friends
12:01:06  <Flygon__> Hmm...
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12:01:09  <Flygon> Maybe
12:01:18  <Flygon> Dumb question
12:01:31  <Flygon> IF you can find a heightmap for an area, but it's messy and a .jpg
12:01:41  <Flygon> Is it sane to scale it to the desired resolution anyway
12:01:47  <Flygon> Then draw over it
12:01:51  <Flygon> With the new height layers?
12:02:12  <Flygon> I can't find a good heightmap of New Zealand for the life of me
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12:03:18  <Eddi|zuHause> don't scale the JPEG, it'll only create more weird artifacts. convert it to an exact format first
12:03:48  <Flygon> Yeah, that's why you take the .jpg, then re-hand draw a new heightmap over it
12:03:55  <Flygon> And export that as a .png
12:08:59  <Flygon> Hmm....
12:09:04  <Flygon> That would be kind of awkward tho
12:09:07  <Flygon> Urf
12:09:15  <Flygon> I need to make a real heightmap export somepoint
12:09:23  <Flygon> <_> I'm put off by the tediousity
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12:17:06  <Eddi|zuHause> how exact does the heightmap need to be anyway? you could just throw a smoothing or sharpening filter over the image and be done with it
12:37:47  <Flygon> Ehhhh
12:37:52  <Flygon> The .jpg I found is in tatters
12:37:54  <Flygon> Best I make a new one
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14:55:28  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: idk depends if my boss thinks weeping in the office is too uprofessional
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15:18:47  <supermop> ugh i need to go buy some donuts or something i dont know,staring at autocad not doing anything isn't working
15:20:24  <supermop> guess i'll need to wait until more americans get on to see any commiseration
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15:31:14  <Wolf01> o/
15:31:14  <Alberth> o/
15:36:35  <supermop> hi Alberth
15:36:50  <Alberth> hi hi supermop
15:37:25  <supermop> whatever country you are from let me move there
15:38:06  <Alberth> holland
15:38:16  <Alberth> below a lot of water :p
15:38:35  <Alberth> and it's raining here today
15:38:55  <supermop> raining here too
15:39:18  <supermop> and manhattan will be underwater in 50 years anyway -
15:40:45  <Eddi|zuHause> holland is the best city in the world.
15:41:06  <Alberth> it's a city? :O
15:42:08  <Eddi|zuHause>
15:42:22  <Wolf01> Venice here, already underwater
15:43:21  <Eddi|zuHause> isn't venice's problem that it's drowning in sewage because it can't flow out?
15:43:38  <Wolf01> Nah
15:44:52  <Eddi|zuHause> i may have simplified the problem a bit too much :p
15:46:03  <Alberth> close enough, I guess :)
15:48:27  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm playing as venice right now, but i'm having trouble against the ottomans, they have better armies and i don't win with equal soldier numbers
15:48:40  <Eddi|zuHause> also, i gtg
15:48:44  <Alberth> bye
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16:02:21  <supermop> shouldn't nato article 5 require you guys to invade us now?
16:04:30  <supermop> i think this election counts as an attack on an ally
16:06:23  <Alberth> you know europe, endless debating and words :p
16:08:02  <Alberth> president can't be tossed out before the 4 year term?
16:08:13  <Alberth> other than by killing him, I guess
16:15:18  <supermop> can impeach
16:15:50  <supermop> republican congress was going to impeach Nixon, which is why he resigned
16:18:45  <supermop> but republican congressmen today seem to have a lot less interest in propriety to do that now
16:19:21  <supermop> Trump has already said and done worse than what they knew about Nixon at the time, and they still stood by him
16:20:17  <supermop> and if democrats or liberal republicans win more seats in 2018, Trump supporters can just claim they cheated in their elections
16:22:07  <Alberth> they didn't have an alternative for trump at all
16:23:19  <supermop> rather they had too many fighting amongst themselves
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16:45:18  <Wolf01> ahahah the best one so far
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16:49:21  <Alberth> o/
16:50:01  <frosch123> hoi
17:03:12  <Wolf01> Quak
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17:49:50  <goodger> gooey middach
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18:01:33  <supermop> just been drawing rivers for 3 hours
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18:13:41  <Eddi|zuHause> <supermop> i think this election counts as an attack on an ally <-- no, it requires an attack from the OUTSIDE, which is why the US went through all kinds of hoops to define the attack on the world trade center, which only concerned inland flights and persons who already lived in the US for a while, to redefine it as an outside attack
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18:20:19  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: can nato please at lease attack me personally then so i dont have to listen to this guy speak for 4 more years
18:20:35  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: tried earplugs?
18:21:11  <goodger> well the good news is that the euro area is going to get a bit more manageable once putin reconquers latvia
18:21:54  <Eddi|zuHause> i find that not very likely to happen
18:22:47  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: that's a start but i'd take a NATO 105mm shell to my ears just the same right now
18:22:54  <Eddi|zuHause> i mean, look at georgia, russia didn't actually "invade" all of georgia, just the parts that didn't want anything to do with georgia anyway
18:25:15  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: just listen to a nice song instead:
18:25:55  <Eddi|zuHause> (with a nice architect-y theme as well)
18:26:12  <supermop> video not available in my country :/
18:26:53  <debdog> dafugg
18:27:12  <Eddi|zuHause> what are you, in the reverse germany? :p
18:27:30  <Eddi|zuHause> germany just stopped the "this video is not available" bullshit
18:27:41  <supermop> bizzaro world is where i am
18:28:20  <supermop> and of course clinton won the popular vote but doesn't count due to electoral college
18:29:00  <supermop> because god forbid a state with only 100,000 people have fewer senators than one with 20 million
18:29:11  <goodger> that's not how it works
18:29:26  <Alberth> ah, the greatest country that has so much freedom
18:29:52  <peter1138> Sheesh, 7 dead after tram overturns.
18:29:54  <supermop> goodger: the reason we have an electoral college is to 'protect' the 'rights' of small states
18:30:11  <goodger> electoral votes are apportioned per state in a less unequitable way than senators; it's the single-plurality multi-district thing that delivers the broken results
18:30:17  <Alberth> peter: indeed :(
18:30:26  <goodger> first fatal tram crash since the 50s
18:30:50  <supermop> goodger: there is no way electoral votes are less equitable than senators
18:31:14  <supermop> every state gets 2 senators whether it has 1000 people or a billion
18:31:19  <goodger> less unequitable
18:31:39  <supermop> ah yes
18:31:40  <goodger> I mean it's still not actually fair, but it's less unfair than the senate
18:32:02  <Eddi|zuHause> what 7? it was 5 when i last looked
18:32:27  <goodger> also the main problem is that 48% of all of a large state's voters can and routinely do control 100% of that state's votes
18:32:33  <goodger> so glwt
18:32:34  <Eddi|zuHause> goodger: well, it's hard to have crashes when you stop using trams for 50 years
18:32:54  <supermop> but still the #rep+2 number, along with the senate itself, are set up to dis-proportionally benefit less populous states
18:33:30  <goodger> true dat
18:33:32  <supermop> just on the face of that, its absurd that they should have that provision,
18:33:38  <supermop> but its gets worse
18:33:46  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: that's nothing compared to how voting for the german president works
18:34:23  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: but ok, he has not nearly as much power...
18:35:00  <supermop> because when the constitution was written, small states were not large, vacuous, mountain regions like wyoming, but rather southern states where most of the people didn't count as people....
18:35:30  <goodger> yeah, but the german president's main job is to occupy a nice neoclassical palace and keep his mouth shut, much like the english and dutch monarchs
18:35:52  <supermop> and they were afraid that giving northern states proportional strength would have led to abolition on day 1
18:35:53  <Eddi|zuHause> goodger: quite the opposite, he's meant to speak quite a lot
18:36:00  <Eddi|zuHause> it's basically the only thing he does
18:36:12  <supermop> which is what should have happened
18:38:13  <supermop> that or they should never had agreed to form any permanent union with southern states
18:38:49  <Eddi|zuHause> it's always easy to criticise decisions after the fact
18:39:09  <goodger> it's the only time one can criticize a decision
18:39:19  <goodger> otherwise, it's criticizing a proposal
18:39:46  <Eddi|zuHause> magma/lava...
18:41:04  <frosch123> liquid stone
18:45:43  <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27679 trunk/src/lang/romanian.txt (2016-11-09 19:45:35 +0100 )
18:45:44  <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints:
18:45:45  <DorpsGek> romanian: 10 changes by kneekoo
18:49:39  <Eddi|zuHause>
18:50:32  <goodger> welp
18:50:39  <goodger> that sounds like a presidential order to me
18:50:53  <Alberth> from 2009?
18:51:23  <Alberth> don't think that will hold in court :)
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18:56:14  <Eddi|zuHause> uhm... what's wrong with the estonian government?
19:00:10  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: not bold enough contrast on flag colors?
19:05:13  <Eddi|zuHause> what are the estonian colours? blue black and white?
19:05:20  <supermop> yeah
19:05:55  <supermop> white not in middle like on a typical tricolor though
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19:06:08  <supermop> odd choice in graphic design
19:06:11  <supermop> i like it though
19:07:47  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: well
19:12:16  <frosch123> is there a similar explanation for the polish flag?
19:13:03  <supermop> i like 2-stripe flags
19:13:41  <frosch123> i like vertical stripes
19:13:46  <goodger> tricolour forever
19:14:14  <supermop> Viet Cong flag almost perfect from a design standpoint
19:15:09  <frosch123> supermop: you should checkout the numberphile video on the nepal flag
19:15:26  <supermop> triangles nice
19:15:33  <supermop> ohio flag i also love
19:15:52  <supermop> symbolism is stupid but i like the design
19:16:01  <supermop> greenland flag also good
19:16:17  <frosch123> apparently the nepal constitution describes the geometry construction steps to make a flag
19:20:00  <andythenorth> o/
19:20:13  <Alberth> sounds like a fundamental right to know how to make a flag :)
19:20:17  <Alberth> o/ andy
19:28:01  <Eddi|zuHause> Alberth: yeah, but it's probably easier to make a tricolour flag than the nepalese flag :p
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19:28:39  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: global liberal democracy is falling apart
19:29:08  <supermop> so pick your favorite authoritarian states to move to now
19:29:23  <supermop> i'm picking viet nam for the pho
19:29:29  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: i have no intention to move anywhere
19:29:37  <supermop> but pho
19:30:02  <Eddi|zuHause> probably plenty of vietnamese people around here
19:30:12  <supermop> ok finally have appetite, heading out to lunch
19:30:19  <Eddi|zuHause> we had a lot of vietnamese guest workers in the 80s
19:30:37  <Eddi|zuHause> pretty sure not all of them went home
19:30:53  <Supercheese> plenty of pho available anywhere really
19:31:12  <Supercheese> although it is a 1.5 hour drive from here to the best vietnamese restaurant
19:31:20  <Supercheese> not the most convenient
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20:11:06  <supermop> this shit will never get fixed because they won't let it get fixed
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20:22:09  <andythenorth> is cat?
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20:23:18  <Alberth> nah, just spammy plp
20:23:21  <supermop> andy please distract me with cute trams
20:23:27  <andythenorth> trump tram
20:23:34  <Alberth> :D
20:23:39  <andythenorth> someone should draw that
20:23:56  <andythenorth> actually, given events in UK, that’s horribly bad taste
20:23:58  <andythenorth> :(
20:23:59  <Wolf01> London tram derailed, not cute
20:24:04  <Supercheese> ^
20:26:28  <andythenorth> change of subject
20:26:33  <andythenorth> Wolf01 new Technic sets?
20:26:49  <Wolf01> Yup, /me wants the ship
20:27:04  <andythenorth> yup
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20:27:13  <andythenorth> not many functions, but unusual
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21:28:14  <Eddi|zuHause> ok, maybe starting with the largest map in transport fever wasn't a great idea
21:29:01  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause: is it fun?
21:29:40  <Eddi|zuHause> how would i know, i haven't managed to build anything yet, because opening the construction for ship menu just froze the game for 3 minutes
21:29:42  <Wolf01> I'm not even able to earn money :D
21:29:58  <andythenorth> coal
21:30:01  <andythenorth> flat route
21:30:05  <andythenorth> kirby paul :P
21:30:06  <Wolf01> Nah, passengers
21:30:08  <andythenorth> oh wrong game :P
21:30:12  <andythenorth> silly andythenorth
21:30:26  <Wolf01> This game is city-centric
21:30:37  <Wolf01> You need to fullfill city needs
21:30:41  <Eddi|zuHause> i was attempting to start out with a boat route
21:31:04  <Eddi|zuHause> the map looks really beautiful, though, a big step up from train fever
21:31:10  <Wolf01> If you start with an industry you'll get a full stockpile in 2 months and the primary one stops producing
21:31:12  <andythenorth> are boats just as useless in transport fever?
21:31:23  <Wolf01> Boats are always useless
21:32:41  <Supercheese> ships are the only unlimited-throughput option in TTD
21:32:58  <Supercheese> need more capacity? Just moar boats
21:33:11  <Supercheese> no extra infrastructure required
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21:35:43  <andythenorth> yup
21:35:47  <andythenorth> gameplay useless :)
21:35:55  <andythenorth> no play
21:35:57  <andythenorth> no game
21:36:09  <supermop> Supercheese: pathfinder cpu capacity needed
21:36:21  <andythenorth> ‘press here to win’
21:36:32  <andythenorth> except that it’s actually ‘join up tedious bouy routes to win'
21:36:41  <supermop> pachinko
21:36:54  <andythenorth> original TTD solved it
21:37:00  <andythenorth> ships were impossible to make money with
21:37:34  <supermop> and ugly
21:40:02  <andythenorth> hovercraft is ok
21:40:08  <andythenorth> freight ships are not…
21:40:26  <andythenorth> even SF had a bad day sometimes
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21:47:30  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, the "first X" achievement statistic dropped from 99.9% earlier today to 60%
21:47:50  <Eddi|zuHause> (of all people who purchased the game)
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22:28:08  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, i think i should have built a train line to connect up this quarry instead of horse carts. i need dozens of them
22:38:10  <supermop> sounds like leifbk's screenshot thread
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22:46:56  <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, i think i'm marginally profitable
22:47:15  <Wolf01> I'm marginally profitable since I started...
22:47:34  <Wolf01> I'm not able to get enough of anything
22:48:12  <Eddi|zuHause> one ship route between two towns, one stone route with horse and one building materials route for each town (one horse one ship). plus two inner-city routes with horses
22:48:13  <supermop> would i need to buy a new computer to play this?
22:48:42  <Eddi|zuHause> would certainly help :p
22:49:08  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not having a lot of problems yet, except for some lag spikes when opening construction menus
22:50:58  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm thinking about runing a pretty long coal->steel mill ship route, to complement my nearby ore mines, but i'm not sure where to deliver the steel. and i'd need to up my loan for that
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