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19:06:13 <frosch123> anyone still uses autoreplace? 19:06:31 <frosch123> anyone using autoreplace with multiple railtypes? 19:06:46 <Alberth> if the need arises 19:06:59 <andythenorth> autoreplace or autorenew? o_O 19:07:03 <Alberth> usually NUTS trains or so 19:07:04 <frosch123> replace 19:07:16 <andythenorth> I use replace every game, unless I get bored before new vehicles arrive 19:07:36 <andythenorth> I am always amazed how much it does 19:07:56 <andythenorth> it has some really thoughtful aspects 19:07:58 <Alberth> needs new engine every year :p 19:08:19 <andythenorth> frosch123: what’s the underlying question? o_O 19:08:51 <Alberth> random guess: NRT breaks stuff :p 19:08:56 *** orudge` has quit IRC 19:09:00 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 19:09:00 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 19:10:17 <andythenorth> I use it with multiple railtypes 19:15:08 *** BluesInTheNet has joined #openttd 19:15:45 <frosch123> https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/autorepgui.png <- i suggest to change the windowlayou to something like that 19:15:57 <frosch123> adding an option "all types" to the railtype dropdown 19:16:10 <frosch123> and turning the wagon button into a combobox "engines", "wagon", "both" 19:16:29 <frosch123> then use a similar gui (but without the wagon thingie) for nrt 19:17:04 <andythenorth> what problem have you run into that needs a change? :) 19:17:57 <frosch123> the separation by rail/road type seems very weird to me 19:18:05 <frosch123> i think a filter is ok, but it needs an "all" option 19:18:17 <frosch123> and while changing that, i think the boxes make more sense at the top 19:22:41 <frosch123> the separation made sense when there was rail, mono and maglev 19:23:03 <frosch123> but already with elrail it appeared weird, if i remember correctly 19:23:18 <frosch123> with various rail compatibilities it is even more pointless 19:28:12 <andythenorth> I find the UI weird for the railtypes 19:28:19 <andythenorth> I always forget how to use that part 19:28:38 <andythenorth> I tend to click engine/wagon a few times until I remember what to do 19:28:43 <supermop> yeah 19:35:35 *** BluesInTheNet has quit IRC 19:36:16 <andythenorth> with elrail it’s definitely weird 19:40:24 *** BluesInTheNet has joined #openttd 19:45:04 <frosch123> https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/autorepgui2.png <- placing them horizontally looks better 19:45:28 <frosch123> what text to put into the left box for all railtypes? 19:45:54 <frosch123> currently it says "rail vehicles", "electrified rail vehicles" and "narrow gauge trains" 19:46:13 <andythenorth> does the railtype specify it? 19:46:18 <frosch123> should i add "all vehicles"? or is that weird together with "engines" and "wagons"? 19:46:26 <frosch123> andythenorth: yes 19:46:29 <andythenorth> ‘Any type’ ? 19:46:32 <andythenorth> Any railtype? 19:46:47 <frosch123> well, the other talk about the vehicles 19:46:54 <frosch123> "any rail vehicles"? 19:47:02 <andythenorth> PIPE adds ‘Pipeline Pumps’ iirc 19:47:03 <andythenorth> :) 19:47:20 <frosch123> also "any" or "all"? :p 19:47:32 <andythenorth> perenial question of filter designers :P 19:47:52 <andythenorth> it likely doesn’t matter, just be consistent with rest of game? 19:48:26 <andythenorth> ‘All’ is probably better here 19:53:16 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:54:15 <supermop> coke oven a little messed up 19:54:24 <supermop> got pipes off the lot 20:00:00 <andythenorth> I should draw that industry eh :) 20:03:27 *** shirish has joined #openttd 20:03:47 <frosch123> https://devs.openttd.org/~frosch/autorepgui3.png https://paste.openttdcoop.org/p1mdw196x?/p1mdw196x <- i like that behaviour 20:04:16 <frosch123> showing all railtypes by default is way more intuitive than selecting some "most used" one 20:09:13 <Alberth> nice 20:09:33 <andythenorth> +1 20:10:09 <Alberth> aren't there squirrel widgets that need to be changed too? 20:10:20 <frosch123> yes, i excluded that from the diff 20:10:30 <frosch123> i also excluded removing strings from all translations :) 20:11:00 <Alberth> ///< Type of rail tracks selected. INVALID_RAILTYPE to show all. <-- that needs a '#' in front of the literal 20:13:22 <Alberth> if (this->sel_railtype != INVALID_RAILTYPE && rvi->railtype != this->sel_railtype) return false; <-- correct, but bit complicated way of saying if (this->sel_railtype == INVALID_RAILTYPE) return true; 20:14:34 <Alberth> looks fine otherwise, to me 20:15:07 <frosch123> how weird, the railtype is only used for engines, not for wagons? 20:15:49 <Alberth> you need shunting before you worry about that :p 20:16:21 <frosch123> there are different wagons for narrrow gauge 20:16:48 <Alberth> and maybe not even that, any engine that can bring a wagon somewhere is by definition compatible with the tracks 20:17:10 <andythenorth> looked like railtype support had been crowbarred in 20:17:37 <Alberth> you always do the minimum work to make a feature 20:17:38 <frosch123> i removed that check 20:18:02 <frosch123> filtering wagons by railtype is just like filtering engines 20:18:11 <frosch123> the list is empty for electrified wagons 20:18:13 <goodger> hooray! 20:18:17 <frosch123> but you can always select "all railtypes" 20:18:55 <goodger> this means I will no longer have to choose between Electrified Railway and Modern High-Speed Railway (Electrified)? 20:19:24 <frosch123> andythenorth: i switched to playing short games before railtypes were added :) 20:19:46 <andythenorth> :) 20:21:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27683 /trunk/src (62 files in 5 dirs) (2016-12-08 21:21:39 +0100 ) 20:21:44 *** shirish has quit IRC 20:21:45 <DorpsGek> -Change: Rearrange the autoreplace GUI for trains, and do not filter it by railtype by default. 20:30:31 <andythenorth> win 20:30:43 <andythenorth> who says OpenTTD is dying? :D 20:30:50 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:32:30 <frosch123> i think over the weekend it is time to add roadtypes to vehicles 20:32:40 <frosch123> all the construction stuff is done 20:32:57 <frosch123> after the vehicles, there is only the horrible roadtype introduction and compatibility :p 20:33:14 <andythenorth> nice :) 20:33:20 <andythenorth> then I have to make some real grfs :P 20:34:44 * andythenorth currently trying to automate most of the FIRS industry window extra text 20:34:54 <andythenorth> world of substrings 20:38:37 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:46:14 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:47:10 <andythenorth> ha this is going to make loads of mess 20:47:13 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 20:47:25 <Alberth> :D 20:47:25 <andythenorth> but it will save a lot of pointless translation effort 20:47:43 <andythenorth> and minor text bugs 20:47:51 <Wolf01> Good 20:47:56 <Alberth> ah, making string changes in firs 20:47:59 <Alberth> +1 20:48:51 <andythenorth> not sure how I’ll get the cargo units 20:48:56 <andythenorth> but eh, ploughing on 20:49:43 *** aard has quit IRC 21:03:19 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 21:05:07 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:06:06 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 21:06:28 *** Alberth has left #openttd 21:24:48 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:42:50 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:45:15 *** orudge` has quit IRC 21:45:39 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 21:45:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 21:46:05 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:02:54 <__ln__> John Glenn 1921-2016 22:23:54 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:53:26 *** welshdragon has quit IRC 22:56:01 <supermop> what 23:11:48 *** gelignite has quit IRC 23:17:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 23:19:51 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 23:20:09 *** maciozo has quit IRC 23:23:07 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 23:23:07 <supermop> they just renamed the airport in my home town after him 23:23:45 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:27:24 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd