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00:06:53 *** Deactivated has joined #openttd 00:16:28 *** Deactivated has quit IRC 00:37:43 *** lucy has quit IRC 00:38:11 *** lucy has joined #openttd 01:07:56 *** Progman has quit IRC 01:18:29 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 01:21:04 *** maciozo has quit IRC 02:38:30 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 03:41:47 *** DDR has quit IRC 05:08:54 *** glx has quit IRC 07:38:18 *** tokai has quit IRC 07:43:55 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 07:55:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 08:25:39 <andythenorth> o/ 08:31:38 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8302/livestock-sam-versus-squid.png 09:08:22 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 09:51:27 *** Supercheese has left #openttd 10:40:48 *** ConductorCat has quit IRC 10:42:16 *** ConductorCat has joined #openttd 10:42:16 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 10:59:57 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8303/sam-reefer-vs-others.png 11:02:30 <V453000> very fancy shits andythenorth 11:02:38 <andythenorth> fancy 11:02:52 <V453000> I feel like the bulk carrier has too dark bottom 11:02:56 <V453000> but in general I really like 11:03:04 <andythenorth> it has no shape eh? 11:03:12 <V453000> yeah it's just all black 11:03:14 <andythenorth> noted 11:03:24 <V453000> one or two shades brighter might solve it easy 11:08:11 <andythenorth> ok fixing 11:10:10 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8304/sam-bulk-improved.png 11:10:16 <andythenorth> could be better, but eh 11:10:20 <andythenorth> this is just to get general shapes 11:12:20 <V453000> add 1 more shade at the top of the black 11:12:21 <V453000> and it's great 11:13:02 <andythenorth> not sure about the fridge ship 11:13:06 <andythenorth> for realism reasons :P 11:13:10 <andythenorth> such realism 11:13:31 <andythenorth> house should be at the back 11:13:35 <andythenorth> but meh 11:16:00 <V453000> it looks nice 11:16:26 <andythenorth> V453000: is it easier or harder working free of realism? o_O 11:17:25 <V453000> I think in general it's easier to do, but harder to achieve something special and nice 11:17:47 <andythenorth> Road Hog, I invented most of the trams 11:18:02 <andythenorth> it was mostly easier 11:18:04 <V453000> they be awesome, too 11:18:09 <andythenorth> but it’s easier to get started by copying RL 11:18:12 <V453000> I guess it depends 11:18:21 <V453000> making the thing actually look good and convincing, can be harder 11:18:28 <V453000> if you go for some really off the chain vehicles 11:18:44 <V453000> well yeah, some degree of real world reference is probably always great 11:18:58 <andythenorth> good and convincing is problem with ships 11:19:02 <andythenorth> so big 11:19:10 <andythenorth> nowhere to hide from the empty pixels 11:19:27 <V453000> or anything x4 zoom :P 11:19:31 <andythenorth> :P 11:19:41 <andythenorth> easy solution is to add hatches and cranes 11:19:48 <andythenorth> but then all ships start to look similar 11:19:57 <andythenorth> purpose of new set is: All Ships Different 11:20:00 <peter1139> well they do 11:20:02 <V453000> well if you add them in various ways 11:20:40 <V453000> also it doesn't mean every one needs to have the same crane, same colour of crane, or even have a crane at all 11:20:50 <V453000> some ships can have teleporters or slug crew 11:21:10 <andythenorth> is true 11:21:12 <andythenorth> slug edition 11:21:40 <andythenorth> need those big cows in the livestock ship 11:22:13 <V453000> of that I have no doubt 11:23:27 <andythenorth> – angle drawn for 5 ships 11:24:01 <andythenorth> only another 35 more to go for freight ships :P 11:24:01 <V453000> what do you mean angle, isn't it 3D? 11:24:08 <andythenorth> yes, it’s 2D-3D 11:24:16 <andythenorth> I use software that makes the other angles 11:24:17 <V453000> :D 11:24:25 <andythenorth> it’s photoshop :P 11:24:30 <V453000> yez 11:24:48 <andythenorth> I think there’s going to be some ignoring of lighting for the / \ angles 11:24:55 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 11:24:56 <andythenorth> flip :P 11:26:22 <V453000> I did that many times 11:26:30 <V453000> but yeah it isn't as nice as when you draw a new angle 11:27:20 <V453000> one of my todo things is to write a rather robust script for converting 32bpp RGB into 8bpp 11:27:26 <V453000> but doing it well, not like photoshop 11:28:09 <V453000> let's see how I do ships after that 11:29:15 <andythenorth> I reckon that the angles could be converted by downshifting the entire palette by 1 11:29:31 <andythenorth> and drawing the vehicle carefully w.r.t shadows 11:29:42 <V453000> :DDD 11:29:49 <V453000> I think that would be way shittier than you think 11:30:32 <andythenorth> ach it would 11:30:40 <andythenorth> the light needs to flip to the opposite face 11:30:42 <andythenorth> meh 11:31:00 <andythenorth> I could do it by drawing more stuff in false colour, but that’s a headfuck to work with 11:37:39 <Eddi|zuHause> draw the image in layers, so you can +1 one layer and -1 the other layer? 11:42:24 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 11:46:30 *** Deactivated has joined #openttd 11:49:22 *** Deactivated has quit IRC 11:50:05 *** Deactivated has joined #openttd 11:55:08 *** Progman has joined #openttd 11:58:33 <andythenorth> that also 11:58:37 <andythenorth> or masks for the faces 11:58:53 <andythenorth> at some point it’s more work than just fixing them manually :) 12:02:09 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 12:02:20 <Wolf01> o/ 12:11:06 <andythenorth> lo Wolf01 12:21:43 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:50:51 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8305/tanker-large-sam.png 12:50:57 <andythenorth> tanker is too similar to freighter? 12:52:05 <Wolf01> They share a lot pf particulars 12:52:09 <Wolf01> *of 12:54:47 <andythenorth> this is one alternative option http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8306/tanker-large-sam-alt.png 12:54:59 <andythenorth> which is super-unrealism for a ship that lasts 1950-2050 12:55:13 <andythenorth> but does look quite different eh 13:02:20 <andythenorth> more options http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8308/tanker-large-sam-alt-2.png 13:02:24 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8307/tanker-large-sam-alt-3.png 13:02:37 <andythenorth> tankers recolour by cargo to black / grey / CC / other colours 13:05:52 *** Deactivated has quit IRC 13:06:58 *** Alkel_U3 has quit IRC 13:11:11 *** cHawk has quit IRC 13:18:34 *** Alkel_U3 has joined #openttd 13:23:46 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8309/tanker-large-sam-alt-4.png 13:23:50 <andythenorth> probably that one 13:25:44 *** Mitooo has joined #openttd 13:27:57 <Wolf01> Yeah better 13:31:02 * andythenorth doesn’t like the big white roof on the livestock ship 13:31:08 <andythenorth> but it looked bad in dark grey 13:31:17 <andythenorth> problem for later :P 13:31:20 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:09:47 *** Bobby has joined #openttd 14:10:17 <Bobby> hello asll 14:10:18 <Bobby> all 14:13:57 *** Bobby has left #openttd 14:25:32 *** Bobby has joined #openttd 14:36:44 *** lucy has quit IRC 14:37:52 *** lucy has joined #openttd 14:44:06 *** Bobby has quit IRC 14:45:00 *** maciozo has joined #openttd 14:53:17 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:56:07 <Wolf01> andythenorth, rusty roof? 14:56:20 <andythenorth> think it needs greeble 14:56:43 <andythenorth> http://www.maltashipphotos.com/a/angus%20express%20underway%20@%20sea%20aerial%20xxx%20-%2009.04.2012.jpg 14:58:09 <V453000> rust and green shit from the sea, etc would be great 14:58:33 <V453000> What's not rusty, sucks ass. At least that's how it works in factorio 15:00:08 <Wolf01> "A knight in a shiny armor is one that has never been in a war" 15:00:15 <andythenorth> nah 15:00:22 * andythenorth doesn’t want to weather the sprites :P 15:03:38 <andythenorth> oh look, the FIRS Recycling Plant is on fire :o http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-38489765 15:04:59 <Mazur> V taking some copyright counteraction? 15:12:01 <V453000> wat 15:13:59 <andythenorth> @seen supermop 15:13:59 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: supermop was last seen in #openttd 3 days, 15 hours, 54 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: <supermop> how long will you be in the US 15:15:30 <__ln__> that's exactly what they ask at the airport 15:16:48 <Mazur> THey never asked me that. 15:17:33 <Mazur> QQuite possibly, because I never have, as I intend neither, sought flight to the USA. 15:38:34 <Eddi|zuHause> they did ask me that back in 2000 15:39:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i showed them my return flight ticket 15:39:36 <Eddi|zuHause> he didn't really seem to be content with my first answer "about a week" 15:41:53 *** Mitooo_ has joined #openttd 15:46:40 *** Mitooo has quit IRC 15:46:51 *** Mitooo_ is now known as Mitooo 15:49:28 <Wolf01> And then they complain about EU rules when they give contradicting replies, they write tear dropping blog articles and so on 15:54:10 * andythenorth needs someone to test unsinkable sam 15:54:15 <andythenorth> it’s way not done 15:54:25 <andythenorth> but I need an opinion on capacities 15:56:03 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/unsinkable-sam/push/LATEST/ 16:05:14 *** mescalito has quit IRC 16:13:05 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 16:13:05 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 16:13:10 <Wolf01> o/ 16:13:10 <Alberth> moin 16:15:04 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 16:18:12 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:18:29 <Alberth> hi hi andy 16:27:07 *** mescalito has joined #openttd 16:38:51 *** DDR has joined #openttd 16:40:38 *** DDR has joined #openttd 17:26:51 *** Snail_ has joined #openttd 17:29:38 *** Snail has quit IRC 17:29:38 *** Snail_ is now known as Snail 17:30:47 *** Flygon_ has joined #openttd 17:37:34 *** Flygon has quit IRC 17:51:09 *** DDR has quit IRC 17:54:40 *** Alkel_U3 has quit IRC 18:00:24 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:00:25 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:09:34 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8310/flatdeck-barge-sam-vs-others.png 18:09:41 <andythenorth> added a flatdeck barge 18:09:46 <andythenorth> pretty much not realisms 18:10:02 <andythenorth> but I want to match the trucks and trains :P 18:10:08 <andythenorth> flatdeck airplane? o_O 18:11:29 <sim-al2> Seems legit 18:13:18 <V453000> nice flat dick 18:13:27 <andythenorth> you have an accent 18:13:34 <andythenorth> maybe south african 18:13:53 <andythenorth> ships must match trams, eh? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/push/LATEST/docs/html/road_vehicles.html 18:14:04 <V453000> I saw a new zealand/australia videa, not sure ... they mentioned deck many times, it didn't get old 18:14:10 <V453000> they had big decks, too 18:14:22 <sim-al2> The Airbus Beluga is probably as close to a flat-deck airplane as you can get 18:14:28 <andythenorth> also such cargos 18:14:32 <andythenorth> it will have cargo sprites 18:15:58 <sim-al2> Well the various military airlifters also count 18:21:36 *** Alkel_U3 has joined #openttd 18:34:44 <andythenorth> edibleseses tanker http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8311/edibles-tanker-sam-vs-others.png 18:38:26 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 18:38:44 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 18:41:45 <andythenorth> ho 18:41:50 <andythenorth> I’ve done all the main types :o 18:42:04 <andythenorth> except pax, mail, supplies :P 18:42:43 *** srhnsn has joined #openttd 18:43:58 <Wolf01> Ha! Researchers said that Titanic sank because a fire in the hold near the boilers, maybe coal autocombustion, which already started even before the departure 18:44:25 <Wolf01> The fire weakened the structure then the iceberg did the rest 18:44:37 <Alberth> Nice livestock ship, andy 18:45:28 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 18:48:57 <Alberth> http://www.mcdonoughmarine.com/drawings-and-resources.html this is a real flat deck barge 18:49:11 <Alberth> no small poles alongside the edge :) 18:51:02 <Alberth> http://horizonship.com/ship-category/barges-for-sale/self-propelled-barges-for-sale/ 18:52:39 <Alberth> http://horizonship.com/ship/98m-lct-self-propelled-barge-2016-dwt-4788/ nice colours :) 18:53:48 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 18:58:26 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:58:49 * andythenorth looks 18:58:51 <andythenorth> :) 19:12:17 <andythenorth> I need a fruit ship probably 19:12:23 <andythenorth> this one is…different :P 19:12:24 <andythenorth> http://hawaiipacificnews.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/DSC_0421.jpg 19:14:29 <Alberth> a bananas boat, what more can you want? :) 19:17:48 *** umgeher_ has joined #openttd 19:18:01 <andythenorth> what snowline level is this? o_O http://www.railpictures.net/photo/601460/ 19:18:06 *** umgeher has quit IRC 19:23:23 <Alberth> 1 or so :) 19:41:33 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 19:41:59 *** umgeher_ is now known as umgeher 19:58:51 *** umgeher has quit IRC 19:58:57 *** umgeher has joined #openttd 20:11:09 *** umgeher has quit IRC 20:12:16 <andythenorth> oops 20:12:22 <andythenorth> cmd-~ doesn’t work in openttd :P 20:12:33 <andythenorth> cycles windows in OS X :P 20:12:45 *** umgeher has joined #openttd 20:12:56 <andythenorth> is there a focus manager for windows? o_O 20:13:35 <Alberth> just run 1 application at a time :p 20:15:04 <andythenorth> I mean inside ottd ;) 20:17:29 <Alberth> oh :D 20:17:44 <Alberth> it should have one, not sure how it works though 20:23:34 *** ConductorCat has quit IRC 20:23:53 *** ConductorCat has joined #openttd 20:29:15 *** Ttech has quit IRC 20:29:28 *** player5 has joined #openttd 20:39:03 <Wolf01> 'night 20:39:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 20:39:51 *** Ttech has joined #openttd 20:40:54 *** player5 has quit IRC 20:53:47 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 21:03:53 *** Alberth has left #openttd 21:05:21 *** Arveen has quit IRC 21:16:34 *** Jinassi has joined #openttd 21:18:27 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:30:12 <__ln__> @seen Zuu 21:30:12 <DorpsGek> __ln__: Zuu was last seen in #openttd 21 weeks, 5 days, 12 hours, 46 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <Zuu> Perhaps because it was "free" space near ground floor that you couldn't use for offices. 21:52:50 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 21:54:51 *** fiatjaf has quit IRC 22:34:51 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:45:57 *** srhnsn has quit IRC 22:59:39 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:24:47 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:26:38 *** Mitooo has quit IRC 23:36:44 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:37:06 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 23:38:47 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest1538 23:38:49 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 23:44:50 *** Guest1538 has quit IRC 23:47:53 *** JezK has joined #openttd 23:59:31 *** JezK has quit IRC