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(totally safe for work) 09:02:45 <__ln__> well, barely 09:07:24 <crem> Depends on work then. :) 09:09:20 <Supercheese> Nowhere on Voat is SFW 09:11:48 *** Ethereal_Shiver has joined #openttd 09:12:03 <crem> I don't know what voat is. :) 09:16:08 *** Ethereal_Whisper has quit IRC 09:31:57 *** orudge`` has quit IRC 09:33:57 *** orudge`` has joined #openttd 09:34:09 *** orudge`` is now known as orudge` 09:57:50 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 10:03:03 *** Sova has quit IRC 10:03:19 *** Sova has joined #openttd 10:19:24 *** ZirconiumX has joined #openttd 10:27:12 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 10:32:45 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 10:42:16 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 10:42:22 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 10:42:27 <Wolf01> o/ 10:44:15 *** Deactivated has joined #openttd 11:11:58 <__ln__> bonjour 11:12:33 *** Sova has quit IRC 11:29:31 <crem> \o 11:31:23 *** Sova has joined #openttd 11:31:54 <__ln__> crem: btw, i'm not sure if we want to get links to depictions of nude minors on this channel. 11:35:40 <crem> Ok, won't post anymore. But that particular link contained poor acsii art, so it was not obvious at all that it even depicted a human. 11:36:44 <crem> /(.)(.)\ <- this one would be even more "readable" picture. Sorry for posting nudity again, that was the last time. :) 11:37:19 <__ln__> if it's not a minor, it's okay 11:37:58 <crem> In my last message? 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i never heard that word 19:13:46 *** Arveen|Work is now known as Arveen|Home 19:14:45 <V453000> it is it shit 19:14:56 <V453000> basically "extra work" 19:15:09 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:17:53 <andythenorth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WklZGaKjAxQ 19:18:12 <Arveen|Home> good old ren and stimpy 19:18:46 <andythenorth> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/yak_shaving 19:19:02 <andythenorth> I had this up in my office for the last year 19:19:03 <andythenorth> https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/when_you%27re_up_to_your_neck_in_alligators,_it%27s_hard_to_remember_that_your_initial_objective_was_to_drain_the_swamp#English 19:19:07 <andythenorth> but it’s gone now 19:19:15 <andythenorth> maybe someone thought it was too Trump-ish 19:21:49 <Alberth> it sounds good to me 19:25:27 <Arveen|Home> interesting 19:26:22 <frosch123> Arveen|Home: are you a relative of eddi? 19:26:39 <andythenorth> ha 19:26:54 <Arveen|Home> because I switch home/work ? :) 19:28:18 <frosch123> eddi does not switch 19:30:52 <Arveen|Home> when I moved the irc client from my desktop pc to my terminal server I decided to do this so people might have a hint how responsive I might be 19:31:53 <frosch123> makes sense. at home ones has chores to run, so less irc time :) 19:34:26 <Arveen|Home> indeed and at work no one even notices when I have one more RDP session open 19:34:56 *** Striek has joined #openttd 19:38:21 <Milek7> there is irc feature for stating responsivness 19:38:23 <Milek7> /away 19:46:29 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 19:51:10 <Alberth> it's somewhat binary in nature 19:52:09 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 19:55:56 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 19:56:07 *** Speedy has quit IRC 19:56:11 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 20:02:26 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 20:07:17 <supermop> now I am actually at home, even though it is the middle of the work day 20:07:34 *** Arveen|Home has quit IRC 20:16:32 * andythenorth tweaking Steeltown 20:16:33 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#steeltown 20:16:40 <andythenorth> didn’t quite work in play-testing 20:16:43 <supermop> nice 20:16:56 <supermop> coke ovens have sprites yet? 20:16:56 <andythenorth> the end-run cargos need work 20:17:11 <andythenorth> e.g. ENSP, MNSP, anything that boosts port-type industries 20:17:14 <supermop> I am reading about yaks now 20:17:32 <andythenorth> supermop: not drawing anything until the chains are more locked in ;) 20:17:41 <andythenorth> as high chance of deletion currently 20:18:19 <supermop> 'non ferrous metals' 20:18:25 <supermop> bit broad eh? 20:18:35 <supermop> not as broad as 'metal' granted 20:20:45 <Alberth> haven't reached the point of making a vehicle yet :) 20:21:15 <Alberth> seem forever working on the steel chain :) 20:22:07 <supermop> don't worry Alberth - it took humans 101890 some years to make a car 20:26:04 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 20:27:01 <supermop> I'm playing an arctic in a hot country game right now 20:27:17 <supermop> my coffee plantation is covered in snow 20:28:28 <andythenorth> Alberth: the inputs required to make vehicles or ENSP are ridiculous :) 20:28:36 <andythenorth> and the ratios are horribly reductive :) 20:28:54 <andythenorth> I have played 2-3 test games now, and I am no longer amused by that feature 20:34:34 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:37:18 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 20:45:24 <Alberth> make it a parameter :p 20:50:43 <andythenorth> :) 20:51:01 <andythenorth> I am going to shorten some chains 20:52:19 <Alberth> works too :) 20:54:57 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:55:37 <andythenorth> V453000: is pixels? 20:55:50 <V453000> is 20:55:57 <andythenorth> gr8 20:56:04 <V453000> didn't progress lately 20:56:08 <V453000> busy with factorio and some other shit 20:56:20 <andythenorth> stuffs 20:56:54 <andythenorth> such ship https://www.flickr.com/photos/sasklegousers/32735768885/ 20:57:06 <andythenorth> is Island Trader from FISH 20:57:08 <andythenorth> copyists eh 20:57:17 <V453000> :D 20:58:18 *** Cybert1nus has joined #openttd 20:59:04 *** DDR has joined #openttd 21:00:48 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 21:08:14 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:11:49 *** tokai has joined #openttd 21:11:49 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 21:15:46 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:21:56 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 21:26:03 <andythenorth> why is Vehicles cargo? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/economies.html#steeltown 21:26:11 <andythenorth> other than I’ve drawn the industry and it looks nice 21:26:12 <andythenorth> :P 21:26:16 <andythenorth> it has no purpose 21:26:28 <supermop> vehicles look nice on trains? 21:27:02 <andythenorth> but you’ll never produce any :P 21:27:08 <andythenorth> because you need to focus on ENSP 21:27:15 <Supercheese> for the, "Yo dawg, I heard you like vehicles, so we put vehicles in your vehicles so you can drive while you drive." potential 21:27:24 <andythenorth> so all input cargos will have to go to Machine Shop 21:27:35 <andythenorth> also :) 21:27:50 <Eddi|zuHause> make it the sole town cargo that has water effect? 21:28:09 <andythenorth> you’d still need to diver it to ENSP 21:28:12 <andythenorth> unfortunately 21:28:23 <andythenorth> you won’t get any sensible vehicle production without ENSP 21:28:37 <andythenorth> and ENSP contends for the identical cargos as vehicles 21:28:49 <andythenorth> that contention is a weak design flaw 21:29:13 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds like a challenge 21:29:21 <Supercheese> combine 'em? 21:29:28 <andythenorth> considered it 21:29:36 <Supercheese> Make ENSP look like vehicles+ 21:29:39 <andythenorth> vehicle plant -> ENSP 21:29:42 <Supercheese> "Trucks and stuffs" 21:29:48 <andythenorth> it’s already trucks 21:29:50 <supermop> hmm waiting for the little bear 21:29:51 <andythenorth> so plausible 21:30:14 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/industries.html#vehicle_factory 21:30:26 <andythenorth> let’s try that 21:30:29 <supermop> chinook is overkill, so having to new-buy suburbans to haul 5 tile mineral freights in 1962 21:30:33 <andythenorth> oops 21:30:43 <andythenorth> main problem with chinook is tile length 21:30:47 <supermop> yeah 21:30:50 <andythenorth> it’s a lot of wasted space for 2000hp 21:31:01 <supermop> don't mind the length for power trade 21:31:14 <supermop> its competitive with the heavy steam trains 21:31:56 <supermop> but for smaller freight runs makes no sense to give up more than 20% of train to engine 21:32:26 <andythenorth> supermop: Suburban more or less realisms :P https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BR_Standard_Class_3_2-6-2T 21:32:26 <supermop> maybe 1960 is ill advised start year - 65 or 70 would be better 21:32:35 <supermop> or 1930 21:33:20 <supermop> suburban is decent fit for size, power and speed 21:33:38 <supermop> but feels odd as an American to buy new small steam in the 60s 21:34:02 <andythenorth> Horse is deliberately not 100% logical 21:34:06 <supermop> haha 21:34:17 <Supercheese> Steam >> all else 21:34:19 <andythenorth> it’s also definitely not 100% realisms 21:34:26 <Supercheese> If only for the coolness factor 21:34:38 <Supercheese> ;) 21:34:38 <supermop> if you start in before diesel, its very well balanced 21:34:50 <supermop> and is post 68ish as well 21:35:01 <supermop> but 1960 is just slightly akward 21:35:16 <andythenorth> "they were awkward times” 21:35:30 <supermop> ofc the chinook is quickly obsolete once the mature diesels come about 21:35:34 <andythenorth> I am working on rebalancing it, it’s all too fast 21:35:47 <andythenorth> I might adjust the diesels a bit 21:35:49 <andythenorth> if I remember 21:36:00 <andythenorth> and the electrics aren’t satisfying 21:36:01 <supermop> and I start in 60 precisely to give myself a reason to buy chinooks, because I love watching them run around 21:36:24 <andythenorth> happy customer ;) 21:36:51 <supermop> if i start in 70 i'd have to go through contortions to justify using them vs 1 or 2 gridirons 21:40:21 <andythenorth> there is no rationale at that point 21:40:24 <andythenorth> gridiron is boss 21:40:44 <andythenorth> or 2 of the small things 21:40:51 <andythenorth> but gridiron is boss 21:43:30 <andythenorth> ach 21:43:36 <andythenorth> could just import ENSP to steeltown 21:44:36 <andythenorth> ‘unrealistic' 21:44:50 <Supercheese> Should add cheese 21:45:00 <Supercheese> "Stilton" / "Steeltown" 21:45:18 <andythenorth> :P 21:45:43 <Supercheese> special Dairy Alloying Furnaces 21:46:08 <Supercheese> it'd be... *ahem*, whey cool 21:50:37 <andythenorth> :P 21:50:53 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:51:54 *** srhnsn has quit IRC 21:51:59 <Supercheese> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1182588#p1182588 that reminds me of Kerbal Space Program 21:52:07 <Supercheese> looks like a ship I'd design :P 21:56:04 <supermop> so hard to fight the urge to build a comprehensive passenger network while waiting for money to fund my SV industries 21:56:10 *** ZirconiumX has quit IRC 21:56:24 <supermop> also I have still forgotten to turn off inflation on my surface 21:57:39 <andythenorth> the only way I got silver in my SV game was by building pax networks 21:57:44 <andythenorth> needed money 21:57:47 <supermop> yeah 21:57:49 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:58:19 <supermop> but I start out thinking 'better give some basic service to keep the authority on my side' 21:58:30 <andythenorth> shall I reverse-nerf Steeltown by making ENSP widely available? :P 21:58:48 <supermop> then go down the rabbit hole of optimizing it 21:58:55 <andythenorth> never optimise :P 22:01:39 <andythenorth> supermop: are you snowed in? 22:01:49 <supermop> sort of 22:02:09 <supermop> I went to work but boss decided that we could go home at 3 to WFH 22:02:41 <supermop> feels like half of the professional workers in the city stayed home or worked from home 22:03:10 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 22:03:15 <supermop> but roads are fine now, subway has been fine all day - walk to work this morning would have been miserable though 22:03:26 <supermop> so I coughed up subway fare instead 22:03:43 <supermop> now I am 'working' remotely 22:04:15 <supermop> just updating drawings for a bid set 22:05:45 <supermop> also I just re did the alignment of a branch line junction 3 times while paused to try to get it more quaint looking 22:15:43 * andythenorth must to sleep 22:15:45 <andythenorth> bye 22:15:46 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 22:36:24 *** matt11235 has quit IRC 22:38:26 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 22:51:38 *** DDR has quit IRC 22:57:32 *** DDR has joined #openttd 23:00:49 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:06:23 *** glx has quit IRC 23:07:47 *** glx has joined #openttd 23:07:47 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 23:13:39 *** maciozo has quit IRC 23:14:35 <Wolf01> https://www.getyourslide.com/ hell yeah 23:22:08 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 23:28:16 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:31:02 <Wolf01> 'night 23:31:04 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 23:57:40 *** Wormnest has quit IRC