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Log for #openttd on 23rd February 2017:
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00:04:32  <Wolf01> 'night
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10:50:16  <Wolf01> o/
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11:34:07  <__ln__> should the news headlines in the games be upgraded for 2017?
11:34:25  <__ln__> i mean, there could be fake news and alternative facts in them.
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11:45:11  <Wolf01> Nice idea
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12:37:06  <andythenorth> supermop: http://mirokurcik.tumblr.com/
12:37:09  <Wolf01> o/
12:38:58  <crem> \o
12:44:39  <peter1138> http://lh5.ggpht.com/abramsv/SDPouAM92mI/AAAAAAAARiU/5I1NkWmzXcE/s1600-h/002_dom.jpg
12:44:42  <peter1138> o_O
12:45:51  <andythenorth> good eh
12:46:10  <andythenorth> I’d be wary of that in a strong wind
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13:27:52  <peter1138> like today
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14:21:04  <Wolf01> andythenorth, you don't have idea of how fun are 12x31054 plus some other parts XD
14:21:15  <andythenorth> o_O
14:21:32  <Wolf01> I'm making locomotives and wagons
14:21:58  <Wolf01> I'm at 6 locomotives and 1 huge pax wagon
14:22:11  <Wolf01> All of them can be split and combined in different ways
14:22:39  <andythenorth> Wolf01: also, noticed the door sticker? o_O https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/658/32274670160_858d5c4e36_b.jpg
14:23:00  <Wolf01> That's made for me :D
14:24:43  <Wolf01> No more suggestions about what is IR-controlled on that beast?
14:25:08  <andythenorth> drive, steer, outriggers, rotation, luffing, winch
14:25:26  <andythenorth> 2 gearbox selectors to switch between them
14:25:32  <Wolf01> Nice
14:25:38  <andythenorth> there’s video on EB of it
14:25:45  <andythenorth> showing functions in use
14:27:37  <Wolf01> Btw, I MUST purchase it, no matter the cost, it resembels too much the Mc Leach's truck from Bianca&Bernie, one of my favourite vehicles from when I was a kid
14:28:54  <Wolf01> http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130124183144/disney/images/e/e6/Bushwacker.png
14:29:00  <andythenorth> my kids have decided it’s essential
14:29:18  <andythenorth> but it will be too big, and the functions will be weak :x
14:29:19  <andythenorth> nvm
14:33:50  <supermop__> andythenorth: nice
14:35:25  <supermop__> my tumblr is basically just  my wife and then 6 brutalism tumblrs
14:37:33  <supermop__> andythenorth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolleybus#/media/File:Tetley_Bitter_Advert_on_Bradford_Trolleybus_Cropped.jpg
14:38:20  <andythenorth> isn’t it
14:38:24  <andythenorth> bring back pikka
14:38:35  <andythenorth> he probably likes trollybobbuses
14:38:54  <supermop__> not sure they have any down there
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15:05:44  <supermop__> the sloped windshild of 3rd gen ogfx RVs really kinda bugs me
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15:56:45  <Alberth> hi hi
15:57:01  <supermop__> HI Alberth
16:03:37  <supermop__> no ogfx+rvss use 2nd cc, but seems like they could
16:05:24  <Wolf01> o/
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16:10:36  <Wolf01> andythenorth: http://bricksafe.com/files/Wolf01/MOCs/combinable-mocs/31054-31055-31060-convoy.png
16:12:50  <andythenorth> such trains
16:14:03  <Wolf01> http://zusammengebaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lego-creator-blue-express-train-31054-2017-3-in-1-box-rueckseite-zug.jpg the official ones :P
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16:25:10  <Alberth> o/
16:26:40  <supermop__> oooh a pikka
16:26:50  <Pikka> whence?
16:27:02  <supermop__> andythenorth: you have magic powers i guess
16:27:15  <andythenorth> I can even DM
16:27:21  <andythenorth> such typing
16:27:26  <andythenorth> lo Pikka
16:27:43  <Pikka> lobob
16:28:58  <andythenorth> is cats?
16:29:46  <andythenorth> also, in fame news, we worked with Mr Weebl https://twitter.com/TheWeebl/status/791224902045040640
16:29:48  <andythenorth> but not Mr. Bob
16:30:09  <andythenorth> fame such
16:30:15  <supermop__> does it bother anyone else that default mail trucks drive around with the door open?
16:30:34  <andythenorth> supermop__: you lived in the UK no?
16:30:36  <andythenorth> default
16:30:46  <supermop__> 97-99
16:30:48  <Pikka> there's plenty about the default sprites to be bothered about
16:31:00  <andythenorth> http://www.imcdb.org/i722796.jpg
16:32:23  <Pikka> such mailvans
16:32:54  <supermop__> i just remember these: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3c/Royal_Mail_van,_Edinburgh.JPG
16:33:51  <Pikka> mail trucks in OTTD should really be these https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7311/9189280699_1466c02c42.jpg
16:33:53  <supermop__> lightening the roofs so the trolley poles show up
16:33:56  <Pikka> we don't do delivery
16:35:47  <supermop__> i guess ogfx needs to look like ttd ish
16:36:00  <supermop__> which means door stays open
16:36:23  <Pikka> the big open door is the "not a goods truck" marker
16:36:32  <supermop__> i don't have the appetite to touch anything already in the the set, only to add the trolley trucks
16:36:49  <Pikka> notroads is moving along, then?
16:37:14  <supermop__> which are just the regular trucks with pallet shifted roof, poles, and 2cc cab
16:37:23  <supermop__> Pikka: sort of?
16:37:35  <andythenorth> Pikka: is playable
16:37:39  <supermop__> inspired me to make proof of concept things
16:37:41  <andythenorth> https://www.openttd.org/en/download-ratt
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17:01:39  <supermop__> brb
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17:10:38  <supermop_> ok
17:17:49  <supermop_> is there a accepted convention for height of trolleywires?
17:18:43  <Wolf01> Do not interfere with airplanes
17:24:08  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop_: use the same height as for rails?
17:24:42  <supermop_> mostly just hoping my trolley polls don't look dewired
17:24:58  <supermop_> ok i think i have enough sprites to try this now
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18:15:59  <andythenorth> bbls
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18:37:35  <supermop_> double hp for trolley trucks a bit much?
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18:43:41  <supermop_> bigger number for loading speed means slower or faster?
18:44:14  <glx> faster I think
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18:54:41  <Pikka> it's the cargo transferred per tick, iirc
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18:55:20  <supermop_> i see
18:56:05  <supermop_> well ought to be a bit slower with wires over head - have to be careful your forklift doesn't get energized
18:56:28  <supermop_> reliability decay - higher is worse?
18:58:23  <andythenorth> yes
18:58:24  <andythenorth> https://newgrf-specs.tt-wiki.net/wiki/NML:Vehicles#Properties_common_to_all_vehicle_types
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19:36:36  <andythenorth> quak
19:39:30  <frosch123> hoi
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20:15:04  <Pikka> oh dear
20:15:34  <Pikka> my brother joined the lib dems
20:15:40  <Pikka> not sure I can ever speak to him again
20:16:12  <frosch123> is that a political party?
20:16:37  <Pikka> it is
20:18:52  <V453000> hello gentlemen :)
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20:20:35  <frosch123> no animals anymore?
20:22:29  <V453000> not sure
20:22:47  <V453000> probably just factories
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20:26:10  <andythenorth> lo V453000
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20:42:45  <andythenorth> Pikka: are australian lib dems quite different to uk lib dems? o_O
20:43:12  <Pikka> the australian Liberal Democrats are right-wing nutbags
20:43:16  <Pikka> but it's the UK ones he's joined
20:44:53  <andythenorth> oic :)
20:45:06  <andythenorth> I joined UK labour by accident
20:45:31  <Pikka> it's easily done
20:48:59  <andythenorth> they wouldn’t let me vote Corbyn out
20:49:01  <andythenorth> which was a shame
20:49:08  <andythenorth> as they let lots of people join to vote him in
20:49:15  <andythenorth> but the rules had to be changed apparently
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20:50:14  <Pikka> such is thing
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20:54:22  <andythenorth> V453000: what working on?
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20:55:23  <frosch123> you pick the members of your parties to shift votes for their leaders?
20:56:10  <frosch123> sounds like when there were student protests in berlin 20 years ago, and the students got the idea that they could easily take over one of the established parties in berlin, if they all joined
20:57:24  <Eddi|zuHause> did that work?
20:57:46  <frosch123> well, the party took their time to check the applications :p
20:59:13  <Pikka> the real problem with joining a political party is that you start paying more attention to election campaigns
20:59:24  <Pikka> which makes it very difficult to vote for any of them...
20:59:30  <frosch123> lol, i tried to look up the details, but apparently the idea was tried multiple times in other (non-state) towns
21:01:56  <andythenorth> frosch123: I have considered trying the same thing here :P
21:02:11  <andythenorth> it has actually happened to UK Labour
21:03:50  <Pikka> it's called branch stacking here
21:05:26  <andythenorth> ships I should draw
21:07:48  <Pikka> hmm
21:07:56  <Pikka> notroads means notcanals? ;)
21:10:14  <andythenorth> notyet
21:23:08  <Sacro> Pikka: nowt wrong with the Lib Dems
21:23:22  * Sacro is a paid up LD member
21:23:48  <supermop_> Sacro: liberals in aus =/ to in uk
21:24:17  <Pikka> supermop_, it's the british lib dems that my brother joined
21:24:25  <Pikka> and I was joking :P
21:24:43  <supermop_> was out of office and missed the context
21:25:19  <andythenorth> Pikka: are you still studenting? o_O
21:25:28  <Pikka> yep, start back next week
21:25:37  <andythenorth> what courses now?
21:25:43  <supermop_> i find rather little incentive to actually 'join' a party here, other than voting in primaries in some states
21:25:49  <Sacro> It's your strange upside down Lib Dem party over there
21:26:23  <Pikka> courses now are architecture and communication
21:26:34  <supermop_> i've only ever voted for members of one party here, but i am not a member of that party, nor do i vote for them because of their membership
21:26:50  <supermop_> Pikka: THOSE SOUND A BIT DIVERGENT?
21:26:53  <supermop_> oops
21:28:03  <supermop_> just that within my lifetime, in places i have lived, the members of one only party have ever been the only reasonable choices to vote for
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21:29:16  <Pikka> I don't know if they're divergent, but it's a bit of variety at least.
21:29:23  <supermop_> nice
21:30:07  <Pikka> breaking out the colouring pencils and balsa wood :)
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21:31:26  <supermop_> I prefer polystyrene, but they discourage that these days - neurotoxin cement and all
21:34:54  <supermop_> tropical brutalism?
21:39:51  <Pikka> it's been done
21:42:21  <supermop_> NOT ENOUGH NEED MORE
21:44:14  <Pikka> dragging Brisbane kicking and screaming into the 1970s?
21:45:48  <Pikka> hmmm...
21:46:26  <Pikka> they should have built 1 Willam St as a 50 storey Queenslander with a tin roof.
21:47:34  <andythenorth> you have a wheel in BNE?
21:48:10  <andythenorth> ah that’s the tower of power
21:49:45  <Pikka> Campbell's erection, if you like.
21:49:56  <Pikka> (or even if you don't)
21:50:37  <andythenorth> such
21:51:00  <Eddi|zuHause> is that just me or does nothing said in the past half hour make any sense whatsoever?
21:51:14  <andythenorth> it’s not just you, but the others left :P
21:51:58  <andythenorth> pikka has been talking about the big building in Brisbane where some of my customers reside
21:52:32  <Eddi|zuHause> i know practically nothing about brisbane
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21:53:05  <Supercheese> Brizzbun
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21:53:17  <andythenorth> fact 1) Pikka lives there
21:53:29  <andythenorth> fact 2) no crocodiles
21:53:51  <Pikka> those facts aren't related, btw
21:54:07  <andythenorth> are there are any other facts?
21:54:12  * andythenorth has run out
21:54:15  <Pikka> there's a wheel
21:54:19  <Eddi|zuHause> 3) it's not sydney
21:54:44  <andythenorth> 4) it’s not Townsville or Rocky
21:54:51  <andythenorth> or Gold Coast
21:54:59  <Eddi|zuHause> 4a) i've not heard of any of those places
21:55:21  <Pikka> Townsville is where the Powerpuff Girls are from
21:55:55  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm not sure if i've ever seen an actual episode of that show :p
21:56:40  <supermop_> 5) i got to ride the train for free
21:58:57  <Pikka> why's that?
21:59:09  <andythenorth> he’s a crim
22:00:08  <supermop_> terminus nearest straddie ticket machine was broke
22:00:47  <andythenorth> today I read the 1950s UK civil contingency planning for surviving WW3
22:00:53  <supermop_> was going to miss train, fairly late in evening so we just got on without,
22:01:02  <supermop_> andythenorth: those are fun pamphlets
22:01:09  <andythenorth> in which the illustrative example was a relatively small nuke being dropped on North Bristol :P
22:01:22  <andythenorth> it’s always nice when the detailed example is where you live
22:01:36  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: is that more realistic than the american "duck and cover"?
22:01:40  <andythenorth> it makes the descriptions and death counts so much more relevant
22:02:08  <supermop_> anyway officers got on like 3 stops before we got off, and we tried to explain our situation
22:02:13  <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: it concluded that, taking an optimistic, best case scenario, 28 days after a limited exchange of weapons, everyone would be fucked
22:02:44  <andythenorth> it’s nice to read this stuff every now and then
22:03:03  <supermop_> once they realized we were tourists they just rolled their eyes and walked on
22:03:37  <Wolf01> Politics evening?
22:03:45  <andythenorth> only slightly :)
22:03:48  <Pikka> definitely not
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22:04:29  <Eddi|zuHause> can't be, there was not a single mentioning of trump (err... wait... fuck...)
22:05:00  <Wolf01> At least I had a party... of different kind
22:05:36  <andythenorth> lego party?
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22:06:38  <Wolf01> More "another lap around the sun"
22:24:43  <Wolf01> http://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aVqqq3v_460s.jpg wetroad?
22:29:51  <andythenorth> bedroad
22:29:55  <andythenorth> bye ;)
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