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I should learn to make my own. 13:57:34 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 13:59:32 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 14:13:07 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 14:32:25 <peter1138> i liked the restricted palette minecraft textures that used to do the rounds 14:32:35 <peter1138> some kind of challenge to create good art with minimal colours 14:41:15 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 14:41:57 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 14:50:33 <supermop> peter1138: my wife once got me a japanese graphic design book that just contained a bunch of different 3, 4, and 5 color palettes 14:50:53 <supermop> making art with 5 colors is more interesting than with 255 14:51:14 *** Cubey has quit IRC 14:52:12 <peter1138> this is why 32bpp is a flop ;p 14:57:56 <peter1138> ok... 14:58:03 <peter1138> £2400 for a i9 7900x system 14:58:06 <supermop> modelling buildings etc is much more enjoyable for me, but im not craxy about the look of the prerendered sprites 14:58:16 <supermop> i9 is a thing? 14:58:21 <peter1138> yea 14:58:38 <peter1138> s/system/components 14:58:49 <peter1138> mind you that is 128GB of ram, which is possibly excessive 14:59:03 <supermop> if the game was rendered, with lighting and shadows, 32bpp would look ok 14:59:15 <peter1138> yes 14:59:22 <supermop> keep everything in ram all the time 14:59:53 <peter1138> basically 15:00:00 <peter1138> ok, £1600 with "only" 32GB ram 15:08:21 *** APTX_ has joined #openttd 15:12:18 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 15:14:25 *** APTX has quit IRC 15:32:39 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:32:39 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:32:43 <Alberth> o/ 15:35:49 <supermop> yo 15:37:31 <LordAro> /o 15:41:10 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:43:45 *** APTX_ has quit IRC 15:44:43 *** Maarten has quit IRC 15:47:19 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:47:19 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 15:54:23 *** Flygon has quit IRC 15:55:57 *** roidal has joined #openttd 16:10:53 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 16:13:23 *** Maarten has joined #openttd 16:14:13 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 16:24:16 <LordAro> Alberth: https://gist.github.com/LordAro/760063761dc46bacb0c37576c296361a updated (now with fixed indentation!) 16:24:27 <LordAro> (among others) 16:25:07 <Alberth> hmm, need dinner first :) 16:26:11 <LordAro> :p 16:26:22 <LordAro> decidedly still needs testing though 17:00:34 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:00:34 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:10:43 *** APTX has joined #openttd 17:11:26 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:19:03 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:19:09 <Wolf01> Quak 17:19:21 <frosch123> moi 17:34:21 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 17:34:47 <Alberth> o/ 17:36:12 <LordAro> quak 17:39:17 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:39:54 *** cosmobird has joined #openttd 18:00:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:00:20 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:03:29 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 18:03:52 <Alberth> o/ 18:06:12 <andythenorth> hi 18:21:29 *** Maarten has quit IRC 18:22:04 *** Maarten has joined #openttd 18:26:58 <andythenorth> FIRS More Basic? 18:27:47 <frosch123> do you have an asian economy? 18:27:58 <frosch123> rice, chinaware, spices 18:28:03 <andythenorth> rice, computer chips, hondas 18:28:04 <andythenorth> no 18:28:14 <andythenorth> I would need to be sure I’m not trading in bad stereotypes :P 18:28:20 <andythenorth> but the idea appeals 18:28:56 <frosch123> i would prefer a focus on pre 1800 cargos, instead of electronics 18:29:04 <andythenorth> samurai 18:29:11 <frosch123> good name :) 18:29:12 <andythenorth> opium 18:29:15 <frosch123> samurai economy 18:29:20 <andythenorth> no imports :P 18:29:32 <andythenorth> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakoku 18:30:13 <Eddi|zuHause> Sudoku? 18:31:20 <frosch123> i am not sure whether an "oil and dates" would offer enough cargos 18:31:46 <frosch123> +economy 18:40:32 <andythenorth> there’s always pax and mail :P 18:45:17 <Alberth> nah, mail travels by pigeon 18:45:30 <Alberth> and people walk :) 18:48:03 <frosch123> i think historical cargos make economies more distinct 18:48:37 *** gr3m has joined #openttd 18:49:12 <gr3m> hi all 18:49:12 <andythenorth> there is the issue of transport, no? o_O 18:49:45 <frosch123> historical cargos, modern transport :) 18:50:06 <frosch123> there are no tracks on the map at the start 18:50:17 *** gr3m has left #openttd 18:50:18 <frosch123> so it makes sense to set the starting economy to pre-railroad :p 18:52:14 <Alberth> lots of people are willing to make suitable vehicles, I think :) 18:53:48 <andythenorth> in some ways, going back further would be interesting 18:54:02 <andythenorth> Romans used to transport wine around Europe in bulk tankers 18:54:46 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 18:55:06 <andythenorth> meanwhile, what should cargo weights be set to? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/html/code_reference.html#cargos 18:55:22 <andythenorth> they seem to have arbitrary variation right now 18:57:28 <Alberth> wait until someone finds errors, then ask him to make a prposal :p 18:58:25 <andythenorth> I don’t really know what cargo weight does 18:58:32 <andythenorth> I assume it’s fractions of the ruling unit 19:01:48 <frosch123> it affects weight of the wagon, i.e. how much power your engine needs 19:01:59 <frosch123> wagon capacity is set in units, not in weight 19:02:44 *** FR^2 has joined #openttd 19:02:55 <frosch123> maybe it would better be called "density" 19:03:19 <andythenorth> maybe 19:03:24 <andythenorth> it does make sense currently 19:03:39 <frosch123> set it to 1 for watery things 19:03:45 <frosch123> lower for oily stuff 19:03:51 <frosch123> way higher for metally stuff 19:03:54 <andythenorth> someone should look up RL values or something 19:04:28 <andythenorth> or…RL trains and RVS are govered by weight :P 19:04:37 <andythenorth> so eh, 1 for everything 19:04:55 <frosch123> also true, it only applies to piece cargo 19:05:14 <frosch123> and liquids 19:05:21 <andythenorth> the current model seems to assume 1 unit MNSP is much lighter than 1 unit ENSP 19:05:45 <andythenorth> but everybody know cardboard is light 19:05:56 <andythenorth> 1 ton of cardboard weighs much less than 1 ton of tractors 19:06:03 <peter1138> yes 19:08:23 <andythenorth> is it done yet? o_O 19:08:33 <andythenorth> hmm 19:08:35 <andythenorth> “The readme is crap, improve” 19:08:37 <andythenorth> from my notes 19:08:55 <peter1138> i had lots of stuff to do 19:09:00 <peter1138> then i stopped doing stuff again :( 19:09:03 <peter1138> silly me 19:09:08 <andythenorth> it’s a daft approach 19:09:09 <peter1138> i blame cycling 19:09:15 <andythenorth> it’s too hot for that 19:09:18 * andythenorth cycled to work 19:09:20 <andythenorth> and back 19:09:23 <peter1138> i used to spend all evening and weekend on it 19:09:40 <peter1138> sunday i got up early, went out at 6.30, and came back after 100 miles... 19:09:52 <andythenorth> cycling is addictive 19:09:59 <andythenorth> and doesn’t have cross-platform BS 19:10:09 <peter1138> graphics are better 19:10:15 <andythenorth> it has weather 19:10:19 <andythenorth> OpenTTD does not 19:10:27 <peter1138> day/night cycle 19:10:31 <peter1138> particles 19:10:37 <peter1138> shaders 19:10:44 <andythenorth> what does this all mean? http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/readme.txt 19:10:49 <andythenorth> should I delete it? 19:10:58 <andythenorth> it’s totally disconnected from http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/firs/push/LATEST/docs/ 19:12:36 *** roidal has quit IRC 19:13:10 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:13:24 <frosch123> isn't there some html to asciiart renderer? 19:13:36 <Alberth> lynx? 19:13:53 <frosch123> can it also do svg? 19:14:06 <Alberth> not likely 19:14:20 <Alberth> svg may have been invented later :p 19:14:58 <Rubidium> can't you just make an image and push it through mplayer's renderer? 19:54:59 <supermop> been out all day looking for a tile that doesn't exist 20:00:14 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:09:26 <andythenorth> tile shopping is the worst human activity 20:09:37 <andythenorth> outside the obvious candidates 20:09:52 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 20:09:52 <Alberth> seen lots of things you didn't see before? 20:18:35 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 20:19:45 <andythenorth> no tile is ever the tile you want 20:19:55 <andythenorth> except the one you could never afford 20:23:28 * andythenorth biab, or bed 20:23:35 <andythenorth> except too hot to sleep :P 20:23:36 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 20:33:01 *** supermop has quit IRC 20:42:33 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:44:40 *** supermop has joined #openttd 20:48:28 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 20:50:04 *** Gja has quit IRC 20:53:27 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 20:58:46 <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aq14QBY_460sv.mp4 :'D 21:02:23 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:07:23 <Alkel_U3> yeah, Schmetterling is my favourite 21:14:28 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:16:47 *** Cybertinus has quit IRC 21:19:15 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 21:20:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 21:21:48 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 21:30:00 *** Montana has quit IRC 21:32:23 <Eddi|zuHause> isn't that like 5 years old now? 21:35:27 <Wolf01> Maybe 21:45:25 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:51:59 *** DDR has quit IRC 21:59:36 *** cosmobird has quit IRC 22:38:00 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:44:03 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:44:51 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 22:59:27 *** zetamek has joined #openttd 23:04:45 *** zetamek has quit IRC 23:10:01 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 23:49:37 *** tokai has joined #openttd 23:49:37 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 23:56:28 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC