Log for #openttd on 19th July 2017:
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06:41:33  <kha_grejs> hello there I need some help with a scenorie called Denmark ver. 1.0. I says it is missing some files and I have found those files but still it will not start.
06:42:05  <kha_grejs> It is versin TDD 1.7.1 i am playing some ideas to get it to work?
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08:00:54  <Wolf01> o/
08:04:06  <Alberth> o/
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10:33:52  <Wolf01> Anyone which knows where the "architecture explorer" menu is located in VS14?
10:37:03  <Alberth> On the Architecture menu, point to Windows, and then click Architecture Explorer. ?
10:38:42  <Wolf01> I don't seem to have an "architecture menu"
10:39:18  <Wolf01> Even the "quick launch" doesn't suggest anything
10:42:02  <Wolf01> Add a UML class diagram to your solution: On the Architecture menu, choose New Diagram. In the Add New Diagram dialog box, select UML Class Diagram. A modeling project will be created, if you don’t already have one. <- I'm trying to do this
10:44:45  <Alberth> just quoted
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10:49:33  <Wolf01> I have solution explorer, team explorer, class view as panels, no sign of the "architecture"
10:54:35  <__ln__> perché no stai usando VS in italiano?
10:55:45  <Wolf01> Because when I look for info on internet I find them in english and I don't have to translate it :P
10:56:39  <__ln__> sounds boring :P
10:57:31  <Wolf01> Also I save some space avoiding to install language packs
10:57:39  <__ln__> besides, at least for warnings, errors and such, VS has those unique id numbers for each message, which enables one to easily search for them regardless of the language.
10:58:13  <Wolf01> Oh, that's not the problem, the problem are the various features
10:59:15  <Wolf01> I'm so used to english that I don't even know how many menu entries are called in italian, like the CVS ones
10:59:25  <Wolf01> Or VCS
11:07:04  <Wolf01> I think I didn't install the modeling tools
11:07:38  <__ln__> and you aren't curious to know the VCS terminology in italian?
11:07:43  <Wolf01> No
11:07:48  <__ln__> :(
11:13:24  <Wolf01> Also, since most of the SDK and 3rd party tools are in english only, I don't really like to have half of the things in one language and half in another one, I'm already pissed about this in fallout 4 :P
11:14:56  <__ln__> la ricaduta quattro
11:16:12  <Wolf01> Installing visual studio sdk, then modeling tools :|
11:16:20  <Wolf01> And lunch
11:16:54  <__ln__> didn't know one needs to install lunch
11:28:12  <Wolf01> Successfully installed lunch in my stomach
11:28:28  <__ln__> pizza?
11:28:33  <Wolf01> Pasta
11:28:46  <__ln__> ah, that would have been my second guess
11:30:53  <Wolf01> Ok, now I can install the modeling tools
11:31:36  <Wolf01> It took 16 seconds
11:32:04  <Wolf01> Waiting for a crash
11:33:10  <Wolf01> Still no architecture stuff
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11:54:22  <Wolf01> Ok, I need at least the pro version
11:55:43  <__ln__> community is not enough?
11:56:19  <Alberth> only professionals need architecture apparently
11:58:18  <Wolf01> It seem I can do it by hand with the community
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12:09:16  <Wolf01> "In short, Belfiore explains that the full Windows 10 on ARM effort is about enabling great battery life and sleep on ARM based laptops and tablets, and not about bringing full Windows 10 to phones." <- yay
12:09:43  <Wolf01> Fuck surface phones :D
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12:12:12  <Alberth> windows 10 just eats too much processor time
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13:10:31  <Wolf01> installing wetrails
13:17:14  <Alberth> just cleaning the tracks :p
13:30:37  <supermop> Wolf01: my surface doesn't really fit in my pocket
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13:46:25  <Alberth> hmm, why is every grf opened like 3 times in openttd?
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15:15:59  <Alberth> o/
15:16:36  <frosch123> moi
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16:27:33  <Wolf01> Quak
16:27:51  <frosch123> bau
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18:01:21  <Eddi|zuHause> uhm, what's the most low-level way to switch between applications in osx? i'm in the (very bare) "wipe the system and reinstall osx" mode, and somehow i pressed something that pulled me away from the disk util process that tells me how far it's through wiping the disk.
18:01:33  <Eddi|zuHause> i can start a terminal and see that the process is still running
18:01:44  <Eddi|zuHause> but i have no way to switch to it
18:02:05  <Eddi|zuHause> (and i tried cmd+tab)
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18:07:01  <Rubidium> Eddi|zuHause: ask Steve Jobs for intervention
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19:12:52  <Wolf01> eh, they finally found the truth about OTTD AIs :P
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19:54:11  <Alberth> we were there long before them :p
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20:00:51  <andythenorth> such very
20:01:21  <andythenorth> my backup to spinning disk is slower than my backup to SSD :(
20:01:24  <andythenorth> :x
20:03:32  <Eddi|zuHause> i disagree, we specifically called it "NoAI"
20:04:03  <Eddi|zuHause> andythenorth: that does not sound very surprising
20:04:20  <andythenorth> it’s more along the lines of disappointing
20:04:28  <andythenorth> I want it to be done :P
20:05:02  <andythenorth> also I can walk around with the SSD backup plugged in to my laptop, low chance of it being harmed when I drop it :P
20:05:26  <andythenorth> how much is another SSD? o_O
20:06:40  <andythenorth> too much :(
20:07:23  <andythenorth> how many backups is enough?
20:18:36  <Alberth> 1 more than you mess up
20:19:25  <Alberth> unfortunately, somewhat an ambiguous number :(
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20:28:06  <andythenorth> FIRS 3 has no comments
20:28:13  <andythenorth> that means it must be super-awesome
20:30:35  <Eddi|zuHause> well, code with no comments is called "self-documenting", how is a release/presentation with no comments called then?
20:31:01  <andythenorth> self-whining
20:33:26  <Rubidium> efficient
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23:11:48  <Wolf01> XD
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23:32:13  <Wolf01> 'night
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