Log for #openttd on 11th September 2017:
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01:22:28  <Eddi|zuHause> ... if only going to bed would help
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11:28:36  <Wolf01> Moin
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12:10:28  <Wolf01> o/
12:30:06  <Wolf01> "The new client appears to be incompatible with windows 10 creators update, we reccomend you to not update windows 10 creators update"... always blame others, yeah
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13:30:00  <Alberth> o/
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13:39:36  <supermop_> hello
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13:47:23  <andythenorth> hi
13:50:51  <supermop_> not too keen on being back
13:50:58  <supermop_> felt like i was gone a month
13:53:25  <supermop_> should quit my job and move to osaka
14:11:06  <Alberth> o/
14:16:28  <supermop_> hi Alberth
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14:45:37  <Wolf01> o/
14:45:43  <Wolf01> <supermop_> should quit my job and move to osaka <- me too
14:45:57  <Wolf01> But I liked more Kyoto
14:46:44  <supermop_> Wolf01: didn't go to kyoto this trip, but this was my first trip with significant time spent in osaka
14:48:19  <Wolf01> I visited Osaka for about one day, even if I stayed there for 4 days, there was a lot to see around there :P
14:50:34  <Wolf01> lol
14:57:37  <Alberth> silly file system :p
14:59:27  <supermop_> this trip was mostly korea, and then Seto inland sea
14:59:52  <supermop_> hiroshima, miyajima, okayama, naoshima, and teshima
15:00:04  <supermop_> then one day in Osak and one in Tokyo
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15:25:24  <supermop_> i was surprised at how many freight movements i saw down there
15:25:42  <andythenorth> japan set
15:26:07  <supermop_> there is still a ton of industrial activity in south/west honshu for a country in the 3rd decade of a recession
15:26:29  <supermop_> even was on on some single track lines
15:27:08  <supermop_> saw tones of JRF container rakes, DE10s hanging around yards, etc
15:27:37  <supermop_> in tokyo all the freight is on bypasses in other parts of town so you barely every see it
15:28:10  <supermop_> but down there a fast container train would blow through a station while you were waiting
15:56:29  <Wolf01> Bah, wanted to fix my app, sdk disappeared, probably because I installed vs2017
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16:35:17  <peter1138> Right, shall I do something useful, or start work on a 20km minecart track...
16:35:27  <andythenorth> 30km
16:35:30  <Wolf01> Minecraft track
16:35:36  <andythenorth> what’s not useful about that?
16:35:36  <peter1138> It's 20km back to spawn, so...
16:35:58  <andythenorth> you could do 1km, review a patch, say it’s crap, do another 1km
16:38:25  <Wolf01> Mmmh shit takes age to update :(
16:42:19  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think track is the right approach to that kind of distance :p
16:42:29  <Eddi|zuHause> you should be looking into teleportation :p
16:43:17  <supermop_> so oddly enough, ktx highspeed trains in korea use lowlevel platforms
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16:44:04  <peter1138> Well, it's 2500 blocks in the nether but that seems... pointless.
16:51:05  <Wolf01> Did you try elitras and rockets?
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16:59:25  <peter1138> Nah
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17:39:17  <Wolf01> Quak
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17:40:00  <Wolf01> Mmmh, the right framework version was there but not installed O_o
17:41:00  <Eddi|zuHause> it might have eaten the config file
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17:42:31  <Wolf01> I want to set cathegories to my rss feeds, but I don't know how to filter them... icons in the sidebar?
17:44:06  <Wolf01> Double pivot might be an overkill
17:44:59  <frosch123> moin
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18:31:40  <DorpsGek> Commit by frosch :: r27915 /trunk (8 files in 2 dirs) (2017-09-11 20:31:32 +0200 )
18:31:41  <DorpsGek> -Fix (r27730) [FS#6620]: Glyphs in range U+0020 to U+00FF may only be defined in orig_extra.grf, not in openttd.grf.
18:32:42  <frosch123> libpng warning: iCCP: known incorrect sRGB profile <- anyone knows how to get rid of them?
18:32:48  <frosch123> open in gimp an resave?
18:36:46  <Alberth> "To get rid of it, remove the iCCP chunk from the PNG image."   <--
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18:37:51  <Alberth> "To remove the invalid iCCP chunk from all of the PNG files in a folder (directory), you can use ImageMagick's mogrify *.png, provided that your ImageMagick was built with libpng16 (run convert -list format | grep PNG to be sure of that)."
18:38:09  <Alberth> no idea what it does :p
18:38:18  <Alberth> o/ andy
18:38:54  <frosch123> apparently imagemagic's "convert -strip" is needed
18:40:46  <andythenorth> hi ho
18:41:03  <andythenorth> what’s the invalid iCCP chunk?
18:41:09  <andythenorth> is that the invalid colour profiles thing?
18:41:35  <andythenorth> CHIPS keeps reporting that on compile (grfcodec)
18:41:50  <andythenorth> I keep stripping them with photoshop batch actions, but they come back
18:42:11  <frosch123> hmm, -strip does too much
18:42:16  <frosch123> it also removes the palette :p
18:42:30  <LordAro> pfft, who needs that anyway
18:44:32  <andythenorth> I got bored of that libpng warning
18:45:02  <andythenorth> now I just ignore it
18:45:24  <andythenorth>
18:45:34  <andythenorth> they come back somehow, no idea how
18:45:46  <andythenorth> hmm child #1 calls python ‘snake’ :P
18:46:47  <supermop_> andythenorth: automate having child write .py for you
18:48:30  <andythenorth> would be .sn
18:48:32  <andythenorth> but yes
18:49:35  <frosch123> V is your child?
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19:21:55  <andythenorth> 1 less FS eh :)
19:22:10  <frosch123> enough for this year?
19:23:39  <andythenorth> enough for this week :)
19:23:50  <frosch123> month?
19:24:27  <andythenorth> well I could finish the speed patch :P
19:24:38  <andythenorth> I managed to make it crash, so that’s progress
19:24:39  <frosch123> what's that?
19:24:52  <andythenorth> re-arranging speed in the vehicle window
19:24:59  <frosch123> oh, that one
19:25:09  <andythenorth> wasn’t 1 line like I thought
19:25:16  <andythenorth> I found the other cases to handle
19:25:38  <frosch123> i thought people wanted a global setting to scale all vehicle speeds
19:25:43  <andythenorth> 'invalid'
19:25:56  <andythenorth> ottd is remarkably similar to our biggest work app
19:26:11  <andythenorth> even simple things become a tarpit of connected concerns
19:26:20  <andythenorth> and only a couple of people can code review
19:26:54  <SpComb> a C codebase orignally ported from asm written by a single guy, and then slowly suffered from the effects of many many peoppe porting it over to C++ over the years?
19:26:54  <andythenorth> is fun :)_
19:27:05  <frosch123> at my work i get a lot of chicken-egg problems, so it's at least different to ottd
19:27:11  <andythenorth> SpComb: kinda not
19:27:42  <andythenorth> more like a big Zope codebase, moved into Plone (a big CMS), then ported to ignore most of Plone while leaving it all in place
19:27:57  <andythenorth> worked on by 3 or 4 people who knew what they were doing, and 3 or 4 more who really had no idea
19:29:58  <andythenorth> like openttd, everything works, but progress on ‘new’ can be glacial
19:30:23  <frosch123> does the imperial shoe maker order system work?
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19:33:45  <andythenorth> only on certain days
19:34:34  <frosch123> related to moon phase?
19:36:12  <andythenorth> tides, so by abstraction, yes
19:38:18  <andythenorth> frosch123: imperial shoemaker is this?
19:38:23  <andythenorth> or something different?
19:39:04  <frosch123> <- no, the other thing you linked
19:39:30  <frosch123> i used that to tutor my brother
19:41:45  * andythenorth should remember own linls :P
19:41:48  <andythenorth> links *
19:44:25  <andythenorth> we need to move more things to be content, or use APIs
19:44:37  <andythenorth> sound like a familiar approach? o_O
19:47:06  <frosch123> case 31 is complicated
19:49:09  <andythenorth> it is
19:50:29  <andythenorth> there goes my evening :P
19:50:39  * andythenorth was going to play OpenTTD :”
19:51:16  <LordAro> what a preposterous idea
19:51:52  <peter1138> andythenorth, let's do it.
19:52:15  <andythenorth> MP :o
19:56:53  * andythenorth will have to go to sleep by time a game is configured :)
19:56:54  <andythenorth> lame
20:04:38  <frosch123> hmm, can i apply case 1 to coworkers?
20:06:48  <Wolf01> I need to find a way to save an object on the DataContainer for the persistent storage... I considered to serialize it but it doesn't like the "Serializable()" attribute :(
20:07:17  <frosch123> parallelize it
20:07:53  <Wolf01> Mmmh, don't tempt me to do that
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20:15:30  * andythenorth plays a game with broken newgrfs :P
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21:01:39  <frosch123> well, i can't get imagemagick to do what i want
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21:16:58  <Wolf01> @roll getting killed repeatly in fallout 4 survival mode | try to find the stuff I need with the right stats in diablo 3 | netflix and ... and nothing else
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21:51:52  <Wolf01> I could try netflix and sleep
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22:35:29  <tits> JOIN THE DISCUSSION torniggaiaoxhlcl.onion/6667
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22:35:47  <goodger> for the love of christ
22:35:53  <Wolf01> Not
22:35:56  <LordAro> lol.
22:36:09  <quiznilo> same dude just hit us in #opensourcemusicians on freenode
22:36:18  <ST2> well, some bots got no brain, that's a sure xD
22:36:33  <quiznilo> *same bot whatever
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22:36:52  <glx> !ban *!*@
22:37:00  <LordAro> i'm curious about the ordering of that nick list
22:37:07  <ST2> glx for the save ;)
22:37:08  <glx> grr stupid script
22:37:10  <ST2> \o/
22:37:20  <LordAro> glx: @ :p
22:37:27  <glx> @ban *!*@
22:37:42  <glx> ok I need to read the commands
22:37:49  <LordAro> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
22:38:33  <Mazur> Did I hear my name taken in vain?
22:38:35  <Mazur> I did.
22:38:37  <glx> @kban *!*@
22:38:37  <DorpsGek> glx: Error: *!*@ is not in #openttd.
22:38:39  <Mazur> Stupid bots.
22:38:44  <ST2> cmon, "How to understand Women" book it's smaller that commands tutorial - give it a break xD
22:38:58  <glx> @op
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22:39:23  <Mazur> @op
22:39:26  <glx> @deop
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22:39:36  <Mazur> Okies.
22:39:52  <glx> I just wanted to do it discretly but totally failed
22:40:28  <ST2> no worries glx - make the noise you want - for the sanity of the channel, we don't mind :)
22:40:57  <Mazur> Done the othe 3 OTTD channels, too.
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23:00:28  <Eddi|zuHause> with bots like this you should probably go to the server staff
23:05:15  <glx> I think they probably already noticed it
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23:38:36  <Wolf01> 'night
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