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00:00:57 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 00:04:07 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:31:30 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 00:45:11 *** glx has quit IRC 00:50:06 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 01:12:49 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 01:47:24 *** quiznilo has joined #openttd 01:59:25 *** Snail has joined #openttd 02:05:39 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 02:05:52 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 03:08:42 *** quiznilo has quit IRC 03:39:45 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 04:10:24 <Supercheese> Oh man, the city I used to live in was completely devastated by fire... 04:10:37 <Supercheese> I just visited a couple weeks ago, now those places are gone 04:20:59 <__ln__> :/ 04:23:29 <Supercheese> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/us/california-fires-evacuations.html 04:26:57 <Supercheese> The more news scenes I watch, the more depressed I get 04:27:11 <Supercheese> friends have lost their homes... 04:27:40 <Supercheese> guess I should turn the news off 04:30:33 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 05:13:54 *** Cubey has quit IRC 05:16:04 *** efess has quit IRC 06:40:25 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 06:53:47 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 07:19:49 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 07:32:31 *** Snail has quit IRC 07:53:36 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:14:45 *** Montana has quit IRC 08:17:07 *** bwn has quit IRC 08:26:14 *** bwn has joined #openttd 08:34:17 <V453000> pants are being browned 08:50:26 <andythenorth> V453000: so I wrecked some things 08:55:05 <andythenorth> all rules now applied 08:55:11 <andythenorth> but one rule had to die 09:04:36 <V453000> I managed to render tracks out of after effects after 95 minutes 09:04:43 <V453000> next step: do it again :D 09:04:47 <V453000> but iz progress 09:05:18 <V453000> just need to see it ingame and do 1 more round of photoshop final touches 09:06:13 <V453000> basically it works, I just overdid some parts and some things are a bit blurrier than I would like etc 09:06:30 <V453000> but overall I kind of like this idea of making a very basic 3D model and painting the rest 09:13:44 <V453000> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8678/brix-tunnels-001.png 09:13:56 <V453000> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8679/brix-tunnels-wip.png 09:13:57 <V453000> yeah 09:16:03 <V453000> worth noting that the rendered pictures didn't change since :D everything is just photoshop and postproduction in after effects 09:16:11 <V453000> just trees are new 09:16:26 <andythenorth> the round tunnels are winning 09:18:02 <V453000> I was trying to mask out some land on the front side of them, didn't do it quite properly but eh 09:18:18 <V453000> with few fixes it should be fine 09:20:53 <V453000> main thing which isn't visible from this comparison is that it actually works with the megahacks in snow/desert recolouring 09:21:14 <V453000> because that was utterly broken and basically unfixable in the big workflow 09:21:23 <V453000> pixel pushing with brushors is win 09:23:08 * V453000 goes make forum post to gather feedback from people he doesn't care about 09:26:14 <andythenorth> much validation 09:26:44 <andythenorth> monorail still bugs me 09:26:53 <andythenorth> track looks offset in the tunnel entrance 09:26:56 <andythenorth> might be just a thing 09:28:17 *** Gja has joined #openttd 09:34:22 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:34:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:37:47 <Arveen> those snowy trees look really nice Mr. V 09:42:46 <V453000> tanks Mr. A 09:43:14 <V453000> welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson 09:43:14 <V453000> haha 09:43:15 <V453000> GG 09:43:29 <V453000> yeah I might need to go get checked out to psychiatry after finishing this XD 09:59:42 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 10:09:32 <V453000> post iz 10:22:18 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:22:53 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 11:18:37 *** debdog has quit IRC 11:24:19 *** debdog has joined #openttd 11:33:23 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 12:10:47 *** debdog has quit IRC 12:13:48 *** debdog has joined #openttd 12:21:53 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 12:35:13 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 12:45:01 *** Gja has quit IRC 12:52:11 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:15:54 *** roidal has joined #openttd 13:27:00 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 13:27:38 <Wolf01> o/ 13:30:48 *** debdog has quit IRC 13:31:19 <V453000> sup dog 13:31:34 <Wolf01> Maybe I'll have a job by the end of the month 13:33:49 *** debdog has joined #openttd 13:39:35 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:41:29 <V453000> nice 13:43:41 <Wolf01> Yup, I will be able to buy lego again \o/ 13:43:53 <__ln__> meanwhile 13:43:53 <__ln__> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 13:43:53 <__ln__> 3472 root 20 0 48.140g 0.045t 12008 S 1362 72.5 151:52.24 kvm 13:44:13 <__ln__> that's a lot of percents 13:45:34 <Wolf01> CPU 1362%? I've seen worse 13:46:00 <Wolf01> IIRC a ~3200% 13:48:56 <__ln__> yes, it's suboptimal 13:54:28 <Wolf01> Yes, it was on our VPS during a DoS attack, the load balancer crashed before the hypervisor 14:04:36 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:04:52 <Wolf01> o/ 14:05:24 <peter1139> That's % of one core. 14:05:44 <Wolf01> (X) doubt 14:13:02 <andythenorth> V453000: yo 14:13:11 <andythenorth> lighting tank wagons is hard 14:14:33 <supermop> render one to use as a guide? 14:14:41 <andythenorth> wondering 14:14:46 <V453000> cmon supermop 14:14:47 <V453000> NO :D 14:14:52 <V453000> what's issue andythenorth 14:14:58 <andythenorth> just making it look good 14:15:06 <V453000> show thing 14:15:09 <andythenorth> usual, lots of the lighting has to be fake 14:15:23 <V453000> yea 14:15:24 <V453000> ofc :P 14:15:45 <V453000> as long as it has hacks, it's probably good :P 14:15:56 * andythenorth making picture 14:16:14 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8681/tanks_blah.png 14:16:27 <andythenorth> always, challenge is making – sprite not look like it’s side view 14:16:35 <andythenorth> getting angles right 14:16:54 <andythenorth> camera has to be elevated, not ground level 14:17:02 <andythenorth> ‘camera’ is in my head :P 14:17:05 <V453000> yeah 14:17:11 <V453000> you're doing pretty damn well thoug 14:17:13 <V453000> though 14:17:18 <supermop> Drew new sprites for 7th gen trams 14:17:34 <V453000> the CC flat circle feels a bit weird and the bottom ones are definitely more side view-y 14:17:40 <andythenorth> tank wagons are pikka's 14:17:41 <supermop> now redrawing 6th genration 14:17:41 <V453000> the upper ones are nice 14:17:50 <V453000> iz bird 14:17:52 <andythenorth> hog tankers are hacked pikka sprites 14:17:58 <supermop> and 5th gen, 5th gen sprites never even shipped 14:18:03 <V453000> haha 14:18:04 <andythenorth> I think hog is lit right 14:18:17 <V453000> yeah looks nice 14:18:22 <andythenorth> dunno whether to fuck off walkways or not 14:18:30 <supermop> on top? 14:18:46 <V453000> https://dev.openttdcoop.org/projects/nuts/repository/entry/gfx/PurchaseMenu.png 14:18:52 <supermop> you have to include them for dramatic rooftop chase scenes 14:19:01 <peter1139> I wish I could draw/model :S 14:19:10 <supermop> peter1139: get at it 14:19:14 <peter1139> I'd show you how to make 4x sprites ;p 14:19:34 <V453000> :D 14:19:35 <andythenorth> IRL real walkways are not very visible https://ukrailwaypics.smugmug.com/UKRailRollingstock/T/TEA-102t-bogie-tanks/TEA-102t-Bogie-tanks/i-hdmgbcX/0/M/TEA_870255_EWS_York_130407-M.jpg 14:19:55 <V453000> well yeah because IRL wagons aren't megachibby :P 14:20:15 <andythenorth> original TTD does it with shadow 14:20:43 <supermop> must be thin for more chase scene tension 14:21:28 <andythenorth> black 1px strip 14:21:32 * andythenorth biab 14:21:52 <supermop> uh 14:22:00 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 14:22:11 <supermop> i made PS full screen somehow and cant figure out how to revert 14:22:37 <crem1> Photoshop? 14:22:54 <crem1> Hm, why am I 1? 14:22:56 *** crem1 is now known as crem 14:22:58 <V453000> pressed F supermop ? 14:26:39 <supermop> why is this a feature 14:26:51 <V453000> when I paint on a tablet it's pretty nice 14:27:00 <supermop> who wants no access to their start bar or X button 14:27:34 <V453000> I usually just paint masks for which X and a bunch other tool hotkeys are enough 14:27:38 <V453000> for which this works really well 14:28:05 <V453000> the rest, uhhh :P 14:28:28 <V453000> also I guess for quick previewing without ui when designing shit 14:28:44 <V453000> press F, run as way fast, see monitor from afar 14:28:46 <V453000> etc idk 14:33:13 <supermop> rationalizing out cetain lengths of tram parts 14:33:41 <supermop> nice to have 3, 4, 5 and 6 LU cab units for modularity 14:34:25 <supermop> but don't actually need them 14:34:41 <supermop> and makes it a paint to draw alternate liveries 14:37:02 <supermop> pain 14:39:52 <V453000> 888 14:40:49 *** quiznilo has joined #openttd 14:43:58 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 14:44:04 <Wolf01> BTW, anybody already tried Mashinky? 14:45:03 *** tokai has joined #openttd 14:45:04 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 14:45:31 <Wolf01> 23€ for the EA is a bit too much for me, if it was 15€ I could have purchased it 14:46:02 <Wolf01> Cons 14:46:02 <Wolf01> - in current state it isnt worth 23 euro(too short) 14:46:02 <Wolf01> - PBS signals from OpenTTD probably will not be implemented 14:46:02 <Wolf01> - you have to guess length of train 14:46:03 <crem> There are youtube videos, which if done right, is not less enjoyable than the game. 14:46:04 <Wolf01> :D 14:46:33 <Wolf01> Yeah, but I want to play a game, not look at it played :P 14:47:30 <crem> Ah, usually I like watching more than playing. When I was ~10 yo, I invited friends to play on my computer so that I watch! 14:47:53 <crem> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_aV00hiJas <- I was recommended that channel as a good one about Mashinky and other stuff, but not watched it yet. 14:48:36 <peter1139> Largest map size, 512x512? Yeah boy./ 14:55:13 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 14:57:19 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:01:55 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:02:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:03:11 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 15:06:07 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 15:11:43 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 15:15:27 <_dp_> Compared to OpenTTD Mashinky has hardly any gameplay atm, just cool graphics and ability to ride trains 15:15:45 <_dp_> And 512 map is quite a lot with those crappy building tools :p 15:17:23 <_dp_> Kinda glad it costs < 10eur here :) 15:18:10 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 15:25:14 <crem> where? 15:35:06 <_dp_> crem, Russia 15:35:07 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 15:48:37 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 15:57:04 <milek7_> eh, windows only 16:00:14 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:06:43 <_dp_> yeah, but there are some rumors that it can run under wine 16:13:48 <Wolf01> I considered gift exchange, but if IIRC is not possible to exchange gifts between Russia and Europe :( 16:23:31 *** finna has joined #openttd 16:26:42 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 16:32:07 *** debdog has quit IRC 16:37:05 *** debdog has joined #openttd 16:45:39 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:50:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:51:17 *** glx has joined #openttd 16:51:17 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 16:57:59 *** roidal has quit IRC 17:04:31 *** Gja has quit IRC 17:06:09 *** Gja has joined #openttd 17:16:59 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 17:18:36 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:20:45 <andythenorth> RL should stop putting ladders on wagons http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-420-0-28813200-1427462068.jpg 17:20:49 <andythenorth> they’re inconvenient 17:38:53 <__ln__> catalonia declared independence 17:42:13 <andythenorth> interesting times 17:43:59 <__ln__> indeed 17:49:04 <__ln__> or, according to sources, it didn't, but in practice pretty much did 17:53:37 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:58:00 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 17:59:10 <andythenorth> V453000: I unfucked some hoppers http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8682/horsey_hoppers_more_such.png 17:59:20 <andythenorth> old http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8676/horsey_covered_hoppers_3.png 17:59:26 <andythenorth> angle was wrong 17:59:39 <andythenorth> also lines 20 and 21 unfucked here http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8649/horsey_hoppers.png 18:00:02 <andythenorth> trains 80, 81 replace them, and 82, 83 are next-gen 18:00:43 <andythenorth> also covered hoppers are just hoppers with lids, which is (1) Super Realism (2) efficient (3) makes for good art style 18:04:33 *** synchris has joined #openttd 18:09:00 <V453000> very nice, just 72..79 http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8682/horsey_hoppers_more_such.png is less contrast now :P 18:09:24 <V453000> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8649/horsey_hoppers.png this is also just awesome 18:09:34 <V453000> overall big pixels 18:09:36 <V453000> like big time 18:12:07 <andythenorth> well trains 20 and 21 the wagons changed :P 18:12:48 <andythenorth> I broke a rule 18:13:05 <andythenorth> original rule was, same class of wagons always have same colours, all generations 18:13:09 <andythenorth> but blah 18:15:15 <supermop> the hoppers all look fine 18:18:48 <andythenorth> flat wagons are tricky http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8683/horse_flat_3.png 18:18:56 <andythenorth> wondering if this would work https://hattonsimages.blob.core.windows.net/products/L309038W-U_3234374_Qty1_1.jpg 18:19:03 <andythenorth> but load would have to bend 18:20:04 <Wolf01> Mmmh, I always thought the purchase list view was plain side, not 45° 18:21:14 <andythenorth> original TTD says not :) 18:22:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has joined #openttd 18:25:53 *** guru3_ has joined #openttd 18:27:04 *** Mek_ has joined #openttd 18:27:04 *** guru3 has quit IRC 18:27:04 *** Mek has quit IRC 18:28:07 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 18:29:45 <andythenorth> such tanker http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_03_2015/post-420-0-28813200-1427462068.jpg 18:30:05 <andythenorth> also alt, with more bloody vertical ribs :) http://pnemickey.prestonstation.org.uk/gallery/albums/MikesFirstGallery/13dec2010/vtg-wagon.jpg 18:37:16 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 18:53:37 <debdog> uhh, styliiiish 19:19:05 *** Gja has quit IRC 19:49:09 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:17:17 <andythenorth> V453000: pikka tank, new tank http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8684/horse_tanks.png 20:17:40 <andythenorth> looks weird next to covered hopper, the roof hatch greeble clashes 20:17:45 <V453000> is that horizontal stripe pure black? 20:17:55 <andythenorth> very dark CC 20:18:00 <andythenorth> or recolour 20:18:09 <V453000> ah 20:18:21 <andythenorth> if you look at original TTD sprites, I’m channeling simon :P 20:18:24 <V453000> I think it's too bright 20:18:27 <V453000> haha 20:18:36 <V453000> too dark I mean 20:18:41 <andythenorth> it’s not a copy, but I definitely am ‘inspired by' 20:19:01 <V453000> it's interesting to say the least 20:19:03 <andythenorth> would prefer to find my own style :P 20:19:20 <andythenorth> also, maybe I have to redraw covered hoppers :P 20:19:31 <V453000> well the original graphics had this horizontal line as more of an indent in the whole shape right 20:21:15 <Wolf01> Uhm, I enabled the turbo boost on my app... I moved the cache part into the wget task so it caches everything on its own thread 20:21:28 <V453000> yeah, there I understand it more as a hint that the edges and top have kind of extruded part 20:21:33 <V453000> and the middle is a bit inside 20:21:52 <V453000> interesting :) 20:21:52 <V453000> bed 20:22:26 <V453000> 1 cement on forums 20:22:28 <V453000> I win 20:22:38 <andythenorth> winning 20:23:03 * andythenorth goes to put 3.1m long van in 3.15m long garage 20:23:08 <andythenorth> biab 20:24:50 <Wolf01> I've seen 2x1.5m vans into 2.05x1.55m garages in Japan, and it's hard to figure out how they managed to put them inside 20:30:05 <andythenorth> ‘carefully' 20:35:48 <glx> the question is how they manage to go out of the van 20:36:26 <Wolf01> Or to get in to move the van out 20:36:42 <andythenorth> I have sliding door :P 20:36:45 <andythenorth> helps 20:37:08 <glx> a body doesn't fit in 5cm space 20:37:09 <Wolf01> I measured it with my hand, 4 fingers on one side and 1 on the other side 20:37:43 <Wolf01> Make it 7cm, still not enough space 20:40:46 <andythenorth> such challenge 20:41:18 <Wolf01> Maybe japanese people are liquid... or can change to manga and go bidimensional, or they are like cats 20:41:27 *** debdog has quit IRC 20:44:16 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:48:57 *** debdog has joined #openttd 20:50:58 <supermop> Wolf01: go out tailgate 20:53:11 <Wolf01> Could be 20:54:04 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:55:49 <supermop> or put it in neutral and push? 21:02:22 <Wolf01> But you have to align the car perfectly 21:05:47 <Wolf01> http://nihonshock.com/2010/08/how-to-park-your-car-in-japan/ 21:08:18 *** debdog has quit IRC 21:12:18 <supermop> taking pictures of parking in japan is one of my favorite things to do there 21:13:25 *** debdog has joined #openttd 21:15:27 <Wolf01> Ok, made my app loading all the feeds in multithread... now it takes 300MB (peak) instead of 10s of minimum time 21:28:26 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:32:08 *** debdog has quit IRC 21:37:17 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:39:07 *** debdog has joined #openttd 22:03:40 *** HerzogDeXtEr1 has quit IRC 22:03:49 *** Mek has joined #openttd 22:04:12 *** Mek_ has quit IRC 22:19:16 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:20:13 <supermop> hmm if i have random or time dependent liveries, should they show up in the buy menu, or be a surprise? 22:24:01 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:32:21 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:05:47 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 23:05:48 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 23:12:38 *** tokai has quit IRC 23:13:46 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:14:57 *** Smash_ has joined #openttd 23:15:08 <Smash_> i can't log in 23:15:32 <ST2> hello Smash :) 23:15:39 <Smash_> haha hey 23:15:40 <ST2> this isn't the correct channel 23:15:43 <ST2> sec 23:15:46 <Smash_> damn 23:15:50 <Smash_> where do i go? 23:15:55 <ST2> https://openttd.btpro.nl/contact-us/contact 23:15:59 <Smash_> thanks 23:16:02 <ST2> check our IRC info there 23:16:15 <Smash_> ok 23:16:18 <ST2> or use the webclient 23:17:26 <Smash_> omg never mind it worked hahahahahha 23:17:37 <ST2> \o/ 23:17:40 <ST2> good good :) 23:17:42 <Smash_> talking to you had the magic touch 23:18:03 <ST2> yeah, some women say the same ^^ 23:18:27 <Smash_> HAHAHAHA 23:18:30 <Smash_> good call 23:18:54 <Smash_> ok I'm going to go see if i can still play haha 23:19:12 *** Smash_ has quit IRC 23:45:08 *** debdog has quit IRC 23:47:38 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 23:50:02 *** debdog has joined #openttd