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Log for #openttd on 13th November 2017:
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08:33:42  <PressureLine> .-.
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11:59:37  <Samu> @logs
11:59:37  <DorpsGek> Samu: https://webster.openttdcoop.org/index.php?channel=openttd
11:59:54  <crem> @discord
12:00:00  <crem> No discord invite?..
12:29:21  <peter1138> https://imgur.com/a/kQbMe
12:29:24  <peter1138> Okay that's pretty cool
12:55:15  <Samu> speaking of airports
12:55:39  <Samu> helicopters can be stopped in the air when landing in some airports
12:55:58  <Samu> they've not completely landed yet, but can be stopped :(
12:59:23  <Samu> must learn what state machines or whatever work
12:59:46  <Samu> any hint?
13:00:04  <Samu> Finite sTate mAchine (FTA) of an airport.
13:00:27  <LordAro> i believe i saw an existing bug report about that
13:00:50  <LordAro> finite state automata (FSA) is the usual term
13:07:32  <Samu> AirportMovingDataFlags
13:08:06  <Samu> all the TTD airports  + metropolitan, aren't bugged
13:08:46  <Samu> the others added afterwards can stop helis on the air
13:09:03  <Samu> but i'm gonna make sure of this one more time
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14:21:27  <crem> http://store.steampowered.com/app/671440/Rise_of_Industry/
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15:43:37  <Samu> where do I find each airport layout, can't find
15:44:31  <Samu> the game is pulling layout data out from somewhere, where are they
15:45:15  <Rubidium> table?
15:48:23  <Samu> aha, airport_movement.h, thx
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15:54:14  <Alberth> o/
15:58:27  <Samu> geee, this is big!
16:02:21  <crem> \i
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16:12:43  <Alberth> nah, it's just four letters
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17:22:26  <andythenorth> o/
17:23:32  <Alberth> o/
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17:32:27  <supermop_> yo
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17:37:36  <Alberth> oy
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17:49:13  <andythenorth> tanks
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18:15:59  <Wolf01> o/
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18:30:28  <Wolf01> https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/av74V2d_460sv.mp4 a what?
18:31:02  <Wolf01> Did they need to move their entire rolling stock in one time?
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18:46:35  <Alberth> yearly test-drive :p
18:48:59  <Thedarkb> What happened to Server 3?
18:49:02  <Thedarkb> I miss it.
18:49:07  <Thedarkb> I used to play it exclusively
19:03:37  <Alberth> we don't have a server 3
19:04:02  <Alberth> maybe you can try it with one of the owners of the site/server
19:05:32  <Samu> i discovered where the problem arises, for the helidepot
19:05:56  <Samu> line 772, airport_movement.h
19:06:16  <Samu> HELIENDLANDING
19:06:31  <Samu> it assumes the helicopter has landed, but it's still in the air
19:06:43  <Samu> that's why I can stop it :(
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19:45:27  <supermop_> i still am enjoying this photo of a 747 wearing a lei from last week
19:45:38  <supermop_> http://media-s3-us-east-1.ceros.com/united/images/2017/11/09/3f4f60c71ace894c78442b22e52bb459/nov-747-full.jpg
19:49:45  <Thedarkb> Alberth, There used to be a server 3.
19:49:57  <Thedarkb> It was vanilla with FIRS.
19:50:48  <supermop_> Thedarkb: Openttd.org does not run any game servers
19:52:02  <Thedarkb> Is this not the subreddit's chat?
19:52:08  <Wolf01> No
19:52:10  <Thedarkb> Oh,
19:52:15  <Thedarkb> thought it was.
19:52:20  <Wolf01> This is the official ottd chat
19:52:23  <Thedarkb> Oh shit, yeah, they moved to discord.
19:52:44  <ST2> type /join #/r/openttd
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19:55:10  <Thedarkb> Oh yeah, that's the one.
19:55:31  <Wolf01> andythenorth: https://img-9gag-fun.9cache.com/photo/aZg4gY6_460s.jpg
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20:07:42  <andythenorth> Wolf01: pretty accurate
20:08:00  <andythenorth> so basically, at all tiers so far, it's a dice roll whether you get a good team or not
20:08:09  <andythenorth> mostly, good team = win
20:08:11  <andythenorth> bad team = lose
20:08:24  <andythenorth> two good teams is rare, and interesting
20:08:48  <Wolf01> There is plain deathmatch?
20:09:20  <andythenorth> it's all 7-against-7 afaict
20:09:24  <andythenorth> there might be other modes for clans
20:09:29  <Wolf01> :(
20:09:36  <andythenorth> I'm playing non-clan random play
20:09:59  <andythenorth> online MP is a whole new world for andythenorth :P
20:10:25  <Wolf01> I only play coop vs AI or deathmatch
20:10:52  <andythenorth> I never played anything like quake arena
20:10:53  <Wolf01> (when ping allows me to play)
20:11:16  * andythenorth played a lot of LAN tournament games, but that's with known people :)
20:12:41  <Wolf01> I played Q3A a lot, I wasn't a pro but I knew how to rocket jump
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20:30:03  <V453000> team games can get really fucked up due to those things andythenorth
20:30:31  <andythenorth> it's pretty much a dice roll
20:30:41  <V453000> and at the same time that jackpot moment when you have a great team and great opponents is so awesome to experience, but it's so rare I feel like it's basically gambling with yourself
20:30:43  <andythenorth> quite similar to playing roulette in vegas
20:31:10  <andythenorth> the time of day seems to matter
20:31:17  <andythenorth> every game I played this morning had good players
20:31:27  <V453000> it even happened to me that I was basically playing some heroes of newerth back in the day for several hours straight, sometimes literally the whole day, just going from shitty game to another, just to eventually realize that I'm not really enjoying playing it
20:31:34  <Wolf01> Kiddos are at school
20:31:42  <andythenorth> V453000 wondering when same will happen to me :)
20:31:52  <andythenorth> it's just a kind of gambling :)
20:32:00  <andythenorth> but learning the tank skills is fun
20:32:09  <V453000> eventually I started watching professional matches which basically provided me with the ultimate level of complexity and interesting level, but removed the sad parts
20:32:19  <V453000> ofc it's not your own involvement but it was good
20:32:20  <andythenorth> Wolf01: now it's Euro evening, it's much worse again :P
20:32:25  <V453000> haha yeah
20:32:45  <andythenorth> I've only been playing since Saturday, but already the noob moves are pissing me off :P
20:33:11  <andythenorth> when you've play a map 60 times and you know some tactics are flawed on it :P
20:33:39  <V453000> :D
20:33:41  <V453000> right
20:33:47  <V453000> I saw world of tanks once being played
20:33:54  <V453000> all the people lined up behind each other for some reason
20:34:04  <V453000> they continued being in some formation for the next 20 minutes
20:34:08  <V453000> one team won
20:34:13  <V453000> I closed the video :D
20:34:17  <V453000> was pro match allegedly
20:34:29  <andythenorth> there are good and bad lines
20:34:46  <andythenorth> noobies form lemming lines
20:34:56  <andythenorth> leaving all flanks exposed and not covering each other
20:35:23  <V453000> :D k
20:35:27  <andythenorth> when you see a lemming line at game start, there's nothing to do but wait for your game to be lost
20:35:36  <andythenorth> then your win rate goes down :P
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20:38:05  <V453000> :D
20:38:10  <V453000> I always fought my games to the very end
20:38:24  <V453000> it's debatable which approach makes you hate it more :D
20:47:51  <supermop_> reminds me of playing bf42 with people running the carrier aground
20:48:15  <supermop_> no one repairing your tank
20:48:44  <supermop_> someone driver the destroyer off the map
20:48:56  <debdog> oh noes, do not remind me... battlelog.co is about to shut down
20:49:22  <Wolf01> And starcraft 2 is about to become F2P
20:49:25  <supermop_> call in in artillery as a scout - no one is in the artillery
20:49:43  <supermop_> sit in the artillery - no one is calling in strikes
20:51:14  <supermop_> sit in the back of a dive bomber - pilot flies the plane CFIT
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20:51:54  <supermop_> spawn on the carrier, someone else launches the landing craft without any passengers and you have to swim to shore
20:52:30  <supermop_> was still a lot of fun
20:52:48  <glx> but should be way more fun with real coop
20:53:09  <supermop_> also occasionally would have a good tank game on one of the north africa maps
20:53:46  <supermop_> where you'd get a column of 4 or so tanks with engineers and everyone working together
20:54:01  <Alkel_U3> I hear Nuclear Dawn is nice to play. Has relatively small userbase of mostly competent people on average
20:54:24  <supermop_> never had a good cooperative game in bfv
20:54:41  <supermop_> also i kept crashing the migs
20:54:50  <supermop_> but the music was goo
20:54:52  <supermop_> d
20:56:24  <supermop_> bfbc i got really good with the 40mm grenades
20:56:41  <supermop_> chasing after some badge
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21:52:55  <V453000>  No, I'm banned from the NewGRF wiki.
21:52:56  <V453000> _
21:52:57  <V453000> ?
21:53:00  <V453000> andythenorth: ? :D
21:53:24  <andythenorth> yeah
21:53:32  <andythenorth> dunno why
21:54:28  <frosch123> V453000: probably because of the :) in your username
21:56:03  <V453000> well I'm not banned from anywhere
21:56:05  <V453000> except simuscape
21:56:06  <V453000> huehuehue
21:58:00  <frosch123> also, i am at 15% faster, and there is still more potential
21:58:12  <V453000> :0
21:58:16  <V453000> sick
22:01:12  <andythenorth> \o/
22:01:16  <andythenorth> more battery life?
22:01:18  <andythenorth> o_O
22:01:28  <Wolf01> 'night
22:01:34  <V453000> I go as well
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22:01:35  <V453000> gnight
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22:06:27  <Samu> i can't visualize these movement in my head
22:06:33  <Samu> airport movements
22:06:45  <Samu> too complex for me
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