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There are logarithmic intervals occasionally, but they are rare. For example between 3.4 and 3.7 it goes logarithmic. 09:20:38 <crem> Ah no 09:20:44 <crem> It's linear everywhere. 09:21:02 <crem> Actually, if it was logarithmic, it wouldn't have limits of -4 and 14. 09:26:23 <PressureLine> lol? 09:27:00 <PressureLine> for an FPS (which aren't really my passion) i'd put it around -3.5 09:27:49 <PressureLine> more for the atmosphere and the stealth combat elements 09:28:20 <PressureLine> the few stand-up fights in the game are a bit too much "shoot at everything that moves until it stops moving" 09:32:29 <PressureLine> also. 09:32:53 <PressureLine> Monorail. Monorail. Monorail! 09:32:54 <PressureLine> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKvViFXoX-w 09:44:51 *** PressureLine has quit IRC 10:13:44 *** orudge` has quit IRC 10:13:46 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 10:13:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 11:10:36 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 11:36:21 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 11:39:18 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 11:40:16 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 11:56:26 *** Gja has joined #openttd 12:15:41 *** TheMask96 has quit IRC 12:16:58 *** TheMask96 has joined #openttd 12:26:41 *** Gja has quit IRC 12:38:22 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 12:52:27 *** orudge` has quit IRC 12:52:28 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 12:52:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 13:00:34 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 13:02:40 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 13:03:12 *** mindlesstux has joined #openttd 13:05:03 *** Gja has joined #openttd 13:09:03 *** Borg has joined #openttd 13:09:05 <Borg> howdy.. 13:09:15 <Borg> is there a server option.. to make ppl joining as spectator by default? 13:09:31 <Borg> its weird.. its not a default stuff. and u need to give #255 on command line or console 13:14:21 *** Mazur has quit IRC 13:21:33 *** orudge` has quit IRC 13:21:58 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 13:21:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 13:23:20 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 13:31:21 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 13:31:21 *** Flygon has quit IRC 13:34:34 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 13:42:02 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 13:45:56 *** rowdog has joined #openttd 13:48:07 <rowdog> I suppose it's old news but the www.tt-forums.net has and expired cert and since it uses HSTS, firefox refuses to even allow an exception 13:48:41 *** debdog has quit IRC 13:48:54 *** rowdog has quit IRC 13:52:42 *** debdog has joined #openttd 14:31:22 *** Samu has joined #openttd 14:32:22 <Samu> tt-forums.net - this site is not safe, certificate error thing 14:32:31 <Samu> DLG_FLAGS_SEC_CERT_DATE_INVALID 14:32:53 <crem> Maybe that site should not be trusted anymore.. 14:32:54 <Samu> what to do? 14:33:58 <Samu> i can't enter the site... microsoft Edge is too secure apparently 14:34:01 <Samu> :8 14:34:02 <crem> Renew a certificate. If you site owner. 14:35:23 <LordAro> haha 14:35:33 <LordAro> i know exactly what's happened here 14:36:04 <LordAro> LetsEncrypt brought out a new EULA(?) a couple of months ago, that broke all autorenew scripts 14:36:09 <LordAro> so now the cert's expired 14:37:32 <LordAro> silly orudge` 14:37:36 <Samu> damn edge, i really have no choice to view the site 14:37:47 <LordAro> Samu: it's not (really) Edge 14:38:05 <LordAro> the site uses HSTS, so it's doing the correct thing by not letting you view it 14:38:19 <Samu> oh, interesting 14:39:34 <Borg> thats what happens where ppl overuse HTTPS 14:40:01 *** debdog has quit IRC 14:42:53 <SpComb> yeah, the let's encrypt TOS thing was pretty annoying, most automation ends up hardcoding the TOS 14:43:33 <SpComb> I had to deal with that as well, acmetool stopped renewing LE certs 14:44:44 <SpComb> some tools don't seem to care as much about the ToS update, they seemed to just continue working 14:45:21 *** debdog has joined #openttd 14:49:24 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 14:57:15 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:00:32 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:15:02 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 15:15:34 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:23:57 <Borg> uhh 15:24:10 <Borg> someone should update readme... forget compiling OpenTTD using gcc3.3 15:24:27 <Borg> gcc3.4 too 15:25:02 <Borg> using gcc4.9, lets see 15:25:14 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 15:32:20 <Borg> hmmm 15:32:22 <Borg> cct0b4wF.s: Assembler messages: 15:32:22 <Borg> cct0b4wF.s:56: Error: no such instruction: `ptest %xmm0,%xmm2' 15:32:23 <Borg> cct0b4wF.s:61: Error: no such instruction: `ptest %xmm0,%xmm2' 15:32:45 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:33:46 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:37:00 <Borg> okey, turning off SSE4 15:50:20 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:50:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:52:33 <Alberth> oh, how nice, tt-forums certifcate expired :p 15:59:16 <crem> Again? 15:59:34 <crem> I already expired once two hours ago, people were complaining. 16:02:57 <Alberth> no idea, probably it isn't fixed yet 16:04:21 <Alberth> the positive news is there is no spam today at tt-forums! 16:05:48 <crem> Maybe there is, it's just we don't see it yet. 16:14:04 <Alberth> fair enough 16:23:48 <Borg> argh 16:24:03 <Borg> anyone know how to disable those dbg: messages ??? 16:24:18 <Borg> well.. I can redirect stderr to dev null.... but its not nice.. 16:24:44 <Alberth> don't build with debug messages :) 16:25:18 <Borg> huh? 16:25:27 <Borg> so they are enabled by default?!!! 16:25:34 <Borg> lets see sources 16:26:13 <Alberth> no idea, I always have a debug version 16:27:39 <Borg> okey, I found --enable-debug=0 configure 16:27:45 <Borg> lets see if this helps 16:27:54 <Borg> also.. any way to disable console colors ? 16:27:56 <planetmaker> hi :) 16:28:08 <planetmaker> I think debug is default for everything which is not a tagged release version 16:28:21 <Alberth> o/ 16:28:29 <Borg> *** Game paused (number of players) 16:28:34 <Borg> ohhh da fuck.. 16:28:42 <Borg> irssi filtered it 16:28:56 <Borg> anyway.. I have weird characters right before ***.. I see its colors in source code 16:29:00 <Borg> any way to get rid of them? 16:30:08 <Borg> well I can patch void NetworkTextMessage(...) 16:30:32 *** ZexaronS has quit IRC 16:30:54 <planetmaker> Borg, but that messes your revision :) 16:31:19 <Borg> seems I have no choise.. because nobody from the developers heard about isatty() 16:31:53 <Alberth> some platforms don't understand that 16:32:41 <Borg> like there is no #ifndef _WIN32 16:34:28 <Alberth> isn't it better to patch the bridge to irssi? 16:35:43 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:35:51 <Borg> strange... 16:35:56 <Borg> colors should be stripped actually 16:36:07 <Borg> printf(stdout, "%s%s\n", GetLogPrefix(), str); 16:36:16 <Borg> lets see what GetLogPrefix() feeds.. 16:36:33 <Borg> hmmm 16:36:51 <Borg> Alberth: yeah, you are actually right.. it will be better to patch console.rb 16:37:03 <Borg> to strip any non ANSI char... 16:37:05 <Borg> fair enough.. 16:37:51 <Borg> daaa fuck.. I build with --enable-debug=0 16:37:54 <Borg> and I will get them 16:38:55 <Alberth> run SP only :p 16:40:54 <Borg> SP? 16:41:01 <Alberth> single player 16:41:13 <Borg> you are very usefull.... 16:45:46 *** Progman has joined #openttd 16:53:24 <Borg> #if !defined(NO_DEBUG_MESSAGES) 16:57:06 <Borg> funny is.. I see no place where I can add it 16:57:09 <Borg> no config.h 16:57:20 <Borg> fucking nothing! to configure basic game defines... 16:57:21 <Borg> pathetic 17:03:23 <Alberth> try stdafx.h 17:03:35 <Borg> LOL 17:03:45 <Borg> u cant even compile OpenTTD w/ NO_DEBUG_MESSAGES 17:03:56 <Borg> genworld.cpp:204:7: error: '_debug_desync_level' was not declared in this scope 17:05:11 *** Samu has quit IRC 17:05:35 <Borg> great guys.. just great :) 17:05:55 <Borg> hopefully.. there will be no much more such places.. 17:08:15 *** Samu has joined #openttd 17:17:36 <Borg> wee compiled! 17:17:42 <Borg> lets see if I finnally got rid of them 17:18:03 <Borg> yes! 17:18:05 <Borg> they are gone 17:23:18 <Samu> i still can't visit the forum :( rip? 17:29:31 <Borg> muahuhaua 17:29:36 <Borg> got rid of that constrol codes too 17:29:51 <Borg> actually.. they were not colors.. but UTF-8 string format garbage 17:32:49 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 17:35:48 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 17:45:07 *** Borg has quit IRC 17:50:48 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:50:57 *** Progman has quit IRC 17:51:52 <Wolf01> o/ 17:53:09 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:54:15 <Wolf01> Quak 17:55:12 <frosch123> moo 17:57:49 <Wolf01> Only today I reported 5 bugs... 17:58:14 <Wolf01> I don't think they even tried the framework before shipping it 18:00:42 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:00:42 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:01:16 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 18:19:59 <Wolf01> http://englishrussia.com/2017/11/09/russian-abandoned-railroad-graveyard/ 18:25:32 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:43:41 *** orudge` has quit IRC 18:43:46 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 18:43:46 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 18:49:06 <andythenorth> hi 18:49:24 <Wolf01> o/ 18:55:05 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 18:55:51 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:57:02 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 19:21:50 <Eddi|zuHause> that somehow made it into a german news site as well recently 19:27:48 *** DDR has joined #openttd 19:30:51 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:42:33 <andythenorth> broken SSL on forums? 19:44:31 <Wolf01> Pfff expired today 19:49:29 <andythenorth> "let's encrypt" 19:53:09 <peter1138> Let's not bother to set it up automatically so it's a pain every 3 months... 19:54:01 <Eddi|zuHause> what's the rationale behind certificates expiring anyway? 19:54:38 <Eddi|zuHause> sounds equally undesirable as passwords expiring 19:54:39 <Rubidium> expiration of the 256 bit certificates of three decades ago? 19:56:10 <peter1138> It means there's less impact if the key is leaked. 19:56:45 <peter1138> It also encourages it to be done automatically instead of a manual process. 19:59:57 <andythenorth> we used to do so much SSL renewal 20:00:02 <andythenorth> now not 20:00:08 <andythenorth> thankfully 20:17:50 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:43:20 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:45:52 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 20:57:46 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 20:58:54 <LordAro> peter1138: they updated their ToS a couple of months ago, which broke several autorenew scripts 20:59:24 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 21:08:39 <peter1138> When they decide to stop doing it, that'll break a few things. 21:53:25 <Wolf01> 'night 21:53:29 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:55:29 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:58:02 *** synchris has quit IRC 22:11:32 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:32:26 *** Compu has quit IRC 22:35:42 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 22:37:47 *** Compu has joined #openttd 22:40:02 *** mindlesstux has quit IRC 22:40:04 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest618 22:40:05 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:45:34 *** Guest618 has quit IRC 23:00:02 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:01:05 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:06:24 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 23:07:17 *** Long_yanG has joined #openttd 23:07:27 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 23:08:11 *** LongyanG has quit IRC 23:10:33 *** Lejving__ has joined #openttd 23:13:01 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 23:17:21 *** Lejving_ has quit IRC 23:24:28 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 23:25:53 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 23:28:38 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 23:30:55 *** mczapkie has joined #openttd 23:31:45 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 23:32:11 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 23:34:35 *** mczapkie has quit IRC 23:35:31 *** orudge` has quit IRC 23:35:51 *** orudge` has joined #openttd 23:35:51 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o orudge` 23:38:11 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 23:42:20 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd