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09:39:01  <Wolf01> Moin
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09:58:01  <Alberth> moin, bbl
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10:07:44  <andythenorth> o/
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12:14:45  <Wolf01> Good guy wube software ltd patching factorio on saturday morning
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12:18:35  <Wolf01> Quak
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12:20:23  <frosch123> moi
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13:30:51  <Alberth> o/
13:31:20  <andythenorth> HI
13:31:22  <andythenorth> hi
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13:54:35  <Wolf01> o/
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14:46:36  <Samu> Scrollto <insert town name>
14:46:39  <Samu> should work
14:49:17  <supermop> hello
14:49:28  <Samu> hi
14:49:30  <Alberth> o/
14:49:48  <supermop> have spent the last couple weeks without irc at work
14:49:50  <Alberth> there is no "location" button in a town window?
14:50:06  <Alberth> oh dear, now you had to do actual work? :p
14:51:19  <supermop> Albertheven less work than usual
14:51:29  <Alberth> not sure why anyone would want to scroll to a town, as there is nothing of interest there, except some insane city counsil
14:51:52  <Samu> or maybe make the ai debug window clickable
14:52:12  <Samu> it is says a town name, let me click on it to scroll to it
14:52:27  <andythenorth> I should play OTTD
14:52:28  <Samu> if it says an industry name, it scrolls to it, etc
14:52:37  <Alberth> ai debug window is not interesting
14:52:43  <Alberth> inline chat would be
14:52:45  <supermop> I gave my notice to quit on the 5th, so I wanted to make my computer as clean as possible, in case boss fired me on th espot when I told him i would be leaving
14:52:56  <andythenorth> did he?
14:53:22  <supermop> andythenorth unfortunately no, so I've had to work th etwo weeks
14:53:31  <Alberth> apparently not, or he wouldn't be without irc at work :p
14:53:37  <andythenorth> :P
14:54:17  <supermop> but the annoying china project that was taking up so much time that I felt he would fire me for leaving got put on hold the same day I gave notice
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14:54:43  <drac_boy> hi
14:54:48  <Alberth> o/
14:54:51  <supermop> that is, he had said, no one can take any holiday/vacation in December because of deadline for this project
14:55:00  <drac_boy> hi alberth want any fresh snow? heh
14:55:12  <Alberth> not really
14:55:30  <drac_boy> np its been picking up here..guess its real winter now anyhow
14:55:34  <supermop> so saying i was going to quit a couple weeks before the deadline I feared would piss him off to the point of just firing me
14:55:45  * drac_boy is working on my trackign table for the grf but has little else to say otherwise :)
14:56:03  <drac_boy> supermop ic not someone I would had wanted to work for if it was me :-s
14:56:15  * andythenorth bbl
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14:56:36  <Wolf01> Mmmh, need to reinstall OTTD on ubuntu
14:56:38  <supermop> well that's why I quit, I had an offer to work somewhere I actually would want to work
14:57:29  <supermop> unfortunately, I had already decided to not join my wife on her trip to Vietnam next week, because I thought I would not be able to take time off work
14:57:45  <supermop> now I will have the time off, but it is too late to buy a ticket there
14:57:58  <drac_boy> :-|
14:58:02  <supermop> at least cannot buy an affordable one
14:58:32  <supermop> I looked last week and the cheapest was 00 for a 54 hour itinerary via Ukraine
14:59:25  <drac_boy> supermop that sounds like one of these "curse me if I don't, curse me if I do!" paradox
14:59:37  <drac_boy> that is not bought ticket due to still working but...ehh yeah :-s
14:59:48  <Alberth> christmas time is expensive to travel
15:00:04  <supermop> indeed. wife bought her ticket in like august
15:00:30  <drac_boy> alberth hm is it? I never really noticed it or maybe its because I don't go to huge locations
15:00:39  <supermop> now i will be paying 0 to fly to a small boring city in the midwest
15:00:51  <supermop> where it normally costs about 200 to fly too
15:01:10  * drac_boy actually bought a  one-way fare for ottawa>london rail in december last year just as footnote
15:01:28  <Alberth> half the world wants to spend the christmas days near family in the other half of the world :p
15:01:49  <supermop> and hanging out with my mom and dad in their house instead of with my wife and her sister in vietnam and thailand
15:02:16  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: you could try a ship and be there in 2 weeks :p
15:02:29  <supermop> the food, weather, and beaches in Ohio are not quite as nice as in Thailand
15:03:02  <Eddi|zuHause> supermop: or you could try hopping the cheapest planes that roughly go in that direction, with 10 stopovers :p
15:03:08  <supermop> Eddi|zuHause that sounds competitive with the flight with a layover in Kiev
15:03:42  <Eddi|zuHause> 2 weeks might be optimistic for ship
15:04:09  <supermop> very few lines do a regular NYC - Ha Noi container ship
15:04:21  <supermop> ;)
15:04:23  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, but that takes more like 2 months :p
15:04:29  <Rubidium> flying on christmas and on new years eve is generally fairly cheap
15:05:11  <supermop> Rubidium unfortunately wife and her family are on a boat in middle of Lan Ha bay on Christmas itself, so landing then doesn't help much
15:05:47  <Eddi|zuHause> and you can't spend 2 days in vietnam by yourself until you catch up with them?
15:06:12  <supermop> probably can - Ha Noi is my favorite place in the world for food
15:06:49  <supermop> but i've already resigned myself to hanging out in the suburbs this year
15:07:17  <supermop> brother also just got married so I guess it would be polite to hang out with him and his wife too
15:07:30  <Eddi|zuHause> well, whatever, i don't really have the desire to go anywhere at all...
15:07:47  <supermop> Germany seems like it would nice anywhere
15:07:56  <supermop> with markets etc
15:08:37  <supermop> lately many American cities try to set up german style Christmas markets in parks and squares
15:10:26  <Eddi|zuHause> yeah, it seems those are spreading a bit throughout the world
15:11:02  <Wolf01> Again, how do I install the .deb on ubuntu? I forgot everything about the last time -.-
15:11:26  <Wolf01> IIRC I should add it to dpkg
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15:11:31  <Eddi|zuHause> never installed anything on ubuntu, sorry
15:11:32  <drac_boy> anyway not to interrupt but can you have like <loco-Aend&wagon>anythinghere<loco-Bend> or is the spec limited enough that it has to be only <locoA>anythinghere<locoB> rather?
15:11:53  <drac_boy> wolf01 doesn't they have a wiki? just asking
15:12:23  <Wolf01> Yes, openttd wiki, but last time I had some problems doing it
15:12:26  <Eddi|zuHause> generally, it should be "<packagemanager> install <filename>", but sometimes you need special parameters to override the system repositories
15:12:43  <drac_boy> wolf01 umm ottd isn't ubuntu? ;-)
15:12:55  <Wolf01> Not the 1.7.1 / 1.7.2-rc1
15:15:12  * drac_boy just want to know if I should make a fixed trainset or I can have semi-expandable ones for this table :-/
15:16:50  <Eddi|zuHause> Wolf01: surely there must be some less official repos with 1.7.1
15:17:16  <Wolf01> Found the old logs, installing :P
15:18:01  <Eddi|zuHause> hm, for opensuse there's a "home:openttdcoop" repo that offers 1.4.3
15:18:29  <Eddi|zuHause> that seems a bit not-very-well-maintained :p
15:19:15  <Wolf01> Mmmh it didn't install the dependencies
15:19:21  <drac_boy> and whos the author? could be he didn't have the time for it anymore
15:19:35  <drac_boy> (depending on the date of the repo in question that is)
15:19:56  <Eddi|zuHause> well, that's like 3 years ago
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15:22:04  <drac_boy> hm just going ignore the user and make fixed trainsets for now
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15:28:39  <Wolf01> Pffff need to upgrade half of the packages
15:32:47  <Wolf01> Oh, they added snaps
15:34:33  <drac_boy> anyway correct me if I'm wrong (related to RL) but these certain cars in europe that look like vertical cylinders with tapered or dome top .. they're called silo cars right?
15:40:01  <Alberth> better compile the source :)
15:45:55  <Wolf01> Clicking randomly on the sdl window, unable to read anything... I hope I triggered the download of the graphics XD
15:46:06  <Wolf01> Ok, it worked
15:52:13  <drac_boy> :-p heh?
15:52:42  <Wolf01>
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15:55:51  <Wolf01> Now, if only they added an xserver
15:56:07  <Alberth> put in ~/.openttd  :)
15:57:22  <Wolf01> vcxsrv or Xming ?
15:59:28  <Alberth> openttd graphics
16:00:21  <Alberth> don't know about x servers, mine comes standard, as I run linux natively
16:00:58  <Wolf01> :P
16:02:03  * drac_boy doesn't have x .. yet :)
16:02:26  <Wolf01> As always sourceforge doesn't work
16:03:26  <RafiX> damn it, it's so cold there
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16:08:50  <drac_boy> wolf01 just curious but which gpu you using? (re having x11)
16:09:40  <Wolf01> 780GTX
16:11:45  <drac_boy> mm mine's a soc so its a small embedded gpu .. but runs sdl-svga among others pretty well tho
16:23:03  * drac_boy is still waiting for early janurary gpu news hopefully as a sidenote
16:24:42  <Wolf01> yeah
16:26:36  <drac_boy> hmm that reminds me...
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16:36:20  <drac_boy> hmm seem theres not much readme for ottd-allegro (at least in last few years)
16:36:35  * drac_boy wonders if I should maybe try test that and see what to report for 2017 build
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16:42:43  <drac_boy> anyway rafix have fun today ok? I'm going off for lunch and some more :)
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18:19:00  <Wolf01> Mmmh forum has a bit of spam
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21:48:13  <internetling> hello?
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