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Thanks, got it 15:36:47 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:37:21 <Kaiser> But there's no oil rigs in my 1980 map 15:37:53 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 15:38:50 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 15:39:24 <Borg> Kaiser: is there enough water? 15:39:37 <Borg> temperate climate? 15:39:42 <Kaiser> Yes. Yes 15:39:50 <Borg> lets see 15:40:37 <Kaiser> https://imgur.com/kXTmePq 15:40:56 <Borg> hehe indeed 15:41:09 <Borg> but dont worry 15:41:14 <Borg> they will appear in short time in map I think 15:41:24 <Borg> seems generator only generates oil wells at the begining 15:41:29 <peter1138> They tend to want to appear by the edge of the map 15:41:41 <peter1138> There's a setting for distance from edge. 15:41:46 <Kaiser> So oil rigs can't be created by generator? 15:42:12 <Borg> peter1138: u sure? 15:42:13 <Kaiser> I wonder why there is not mentioned at wiki 15:42:22 <Kaiser> *in wiki 15:42:41 <Borg> peter1138: its for oil refinery.. not oil rig 15:43:13 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 15:43:21 *** synchris has joined #openttd 15:43:21 <Kaiser> This option has max value 15:43:42 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 15:43:56 <peter1138> No, not sure :p 15:43:56 <Borg> Kaiser: if you realllly want them to appear shortly in game.. 15:43:58 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:43:58 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:44:03 <Borg> u can try my IndBuild gamescript 15:44:15 <Borg> not yet released.. but I use it on my server.. works fine 15:45:20 <Kaiser> So it is OK that generator wouldn't create any oil rigs? 15:45:52 <Borg> dunno 15:46:25 <Kaiser> Ok then 15:53:44 <Kaiser> Bye 15:53:51 *** Kaiser has left #openttd 15:55:58 *** Kaiser has joined #openttd 15:58:11 <Samu> generator doesn't create oil rigs at game start 15:58:50 <Samu> distance from edge is for both oil rig and oil refinery 15:59:35 <Alberth> oil rigs don't exist < 1960 or so 16:04:16 *** Maraxus has joined #openttd 16:05:17 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 16:09:22 <LordAro> http://hg.openttd.org/trunk.hg/file/6d5adf95cd9e/src/table/build_industry.h#l1249 indeed 16:20:25 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 16:27:14 *** Maraxus has quit IRC 16:27:34 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 16:35:30 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 16:46:35 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 17:06:38 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 17:08:26 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 17:27:21 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 17:31:19 <Samu> CHECK_OIL_RIG 17:31:24 <Samu> must check what it does 17:31:59 <Samu> CHECK_OIL_RIG, ///< Industries at sea should be positioned near edge of the map. 17:32:02 <Samu> ah, i knew it 17:33:19 <Samu> if (TileHeight(tile) == 0 && DistanceFromEdge(TILE_ADDXY(tile, 1, 1)) < _settings_game.game_creation.oil_refinery_limit) return CommandCost(); 17:33:28 <Samu> it reuses oil refinery limit 17:41:33 <Samu> hi Wormnest 17:41:56 <Samu> nonocab v5 is underperforming 17:42:14 <Samu> made ships and 1 train and it's been 35 years 17:42:23 <Samu> 39 ships 17:42:42 <Samu> train is monorail, not maglev, I started in 2051 17:42:48 <Samu> strange 17:43:11 <Samu> no road vehicles or aircraft at all 17:46:43 <Samu> dbg: [script] [0] [W] WARNING: There are 106 connection reports left to evaluate. 17:46:51 <Samu> what does it mean? 17:47:39 <Samu> is it still pathfinding? 17:53:50 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 17:54:04 <Wolf01> o/ 17:55:49 <Wormnest> Hi Samu that´s too bad 17:56:13 *** Breckett has quit IRC 17:56:41 <Wormnest> If infrastructure maintenance is on an you have plane speed set to 1/3 or 1/4 nonocab isn´t gonna use aircraft 17:57:55 <Wormnest> Could be that it built monorail because with the available money maglev was too expensive 17:59:57 <Alberth> o/ 18:00:17 <Wormnest> Connection reports left to evaluate means that those are possible connections where it´s computing what the profits of those connections might be 18:02:08 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:03:33 *** Thedarkb-X40 has quit IRC 18:04:07 <Wolf01> Quak 18:04:17 <frosch123> hoi 18:04:29 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:04:29 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:05:11 <frosch123> what is the effect of python's "import" inside a function? 18:05:57 <Alberth> import isn't done until you execute the function 18:06:14 <Alberth> unless you import the module elsewhere of course 18:06:30 <frosch123> so the symbols remain function local 18:06:35 <Alberth> it's often used to delay importing, or to break an import cycle 18:06:41 <frosch123> and are declared on every function call 18:06:55 <Alberth> not sure, but likely 18:07:17 <Alberth> but the import is done once, just like the other imports 18:07:34 <Alberth> ie second and other times it's pulled from the cache 18:08:47 <frosch123> https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pv6sresix?/pv6sresix <- then that should be fine 18:09:38 <Alberth> I'd expect so 18:09:46 <Samu> hmm why not build aircraft? he was doing fine on v4 18:09:48 <frosch123> #8525 is a bit silly. it wants to catch the exception, but then fails because it does not know the exception symbol :p 18:09:52 <Alberth> that's the only use of psycopg2? 18:09:53 <Samu> except that airport place 18:10:10 <frosch123> the other function has the same import 18:10:17 <Alberth> ah 18:10:20 <frosch123> but both are inside the if db_type 18:10:39 <Alberth> to avoid importing if you don't have de DB 18:10:43 <Alberth> *the 18:12:19 <Wormnest> Samu: Because infrastructure costs of airports are so high that its difficult to make a profit unless aircraft can fly at full speed 18:12:38 <Wormnest> Though it also depends on your other settings of course 18:12:42 <Alberth> an alternative is to try: import psycopg2 except ImportError: psycopg2 is None # so psycopg2 is None defines whether the import succeeded if you need that 18:13:46 <Alberth> hmm, psycopg2 = None in the "except" branch of course 18:14:36 <Alberth> not enough Python written recently, clearly 18:15:17 <Wormnest> Admittedly at 2051 aircraft might even work out at lower speed but I didn´t want to add too much logic at this time 18:23:48 *** m3henry has joined #openttd 18:24:00 <m3henry> Evening all 18:28:12 *** urdh has quit IRC 18:29:16 *** urdh has joined #openttd 18:31:23 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:39:54 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:49:35 *** Alberth has left #openttd 18:56:02 *** synchris_ has joined #openttd 18:59:12 *** synchris has quit IRC 18:59:20 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:59:32 <andythenorth> o/ 19:00:33 *** Zuu has joined #openttd 19:01:38 <andythenorth> ohai Zuu :) 19:02:04 <Zuu> Hello andy :-) 19:06:30 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 19:14:20 * andythenorth drawing ships 19:14:23 *** urdh has quit IRC 19:14:31 <andythenorth> it takes about 1 day per angle for the hull 19:14:37 <andythenorth> but I can relight 4 angles quickly 19:14:40 <andythenorth> so 4 days per hull 19:16:00 <andythenorth> 6 hulls 19:16:01 <andythenorth> hmm 19:16:12 *** urdh has joined #openttd 19:20:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:21:43 * Wolf01 drawing ideas for NRT->BGT transition 19:24:20 *** urdh has quit IRC 19:28:14 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 19:28:26 <andythenorth> I think it's at least partly about how we set up the layers in NRT 19:30:43 <frosch123> remove trams? :p 19:31:41 *** urdh has joined #openttd 19:33:38 <andythenorth> that can go on the list of options, yes :P 19:34:32 *** RafiX has quit IRC 19:39:57 <frosch123> when pikka is around, it'll get a vote :) 19:40:23 <frosch123> is "it'll" a word? 19:40:32 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, getting plasmashell to run again is not fun 19:41:51 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone know of an alternative to plasmashell? 19:42:50 <Samu> nonocab isn't building any road vehicle yet, have you changed something about that, Wormnest 19:43:11 <frosch123> inside or outside of kde? 19:44:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 19:44:16 <Wormnest> Samu: Not in this version but in the previous one I made it less eager to build new road when infrastructure maintenance is on 19:46:27 <andythenorth> it'll is a word 19:48:05 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has joined #openttd 19:48:15 <Wolf01> I'm still looking for a rule to know how to pronounce "y" in English in different words :P 19:49:00 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 19:50:42 <Eddi|zuHause> the rule is simple: never the same in any two words 19:50:48 <frosch123> Wolf01: ghoti 19:51:17 <frosch123> ^^ unfortunately too long for a grfid 19:51:47 <Wolf01> Fish XD 19:52:21 <Eddi|zuHause> you need a gh-ligature :p 19:53:29 <Eddi|zuHause> frosch123: while kde is technically running, but plasmashell always crashes 19:53:30 *** Smedles has quit IRC 19:53:42 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 19:59:07 <andythenorth> my kids learnt that fish is ghoti recently 20:00:08 <frosch123> i can't tell my niece that kind of stuff. otherwise she shies away from english even more 20:00:39 <Eddi|zuHause> tell her that ghoti is klingon for fish? 20:01:21 <Wolf01> Teach her Klingon directly 20:01:22 <frosch123> she's no time traveler, where should she know klingon from? 20:02:18 <frosch123> pink unicorns just got unpopular, not sure what comes next 20:04:09 <Eddi|zuHause> i'm out of ideas, i removed ~/.config 20:04:32 <Eddi|zuHause> where could other things be that make plasmashell not work, when it worked before? 20:05:30 <frosch123> here there is still a .kde 20:06:11 <Eddi|zuHause> but plasmashell wouldn't access that? 20:06:37 <frosch123> there is also Desktop 20:07:13 <Eddi|zuHause> none of the files in Desktop were changed in the past half year 20:07:44 <frosch123> well, create a new user, and check whether the defaults work :p 20:08:18 <m3henry> I'm not familiar enough with KDE to comment, all I know is that it works on my install. 20:09:16 <Eddi|zuHause> also i can't get a crash report/backtrace 20:10:51 <Eddi|zuHause> hm, it crashes somewhere in the graphics driver 20:16:29 *** synchris_ has quit IRC 20:19:13 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 20:23:41 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 20:24:44 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 20:26:50 *** ToffeeYogurtPots_ has quit IRC 20:52:09 *** m3henry_ has joined #openttd 20:53:48 *** m3henry has quit IRC 21:20:40 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:21:05 *** m3henry has joined #openttd 21:27:07 *** m3henry_ has quit IRC 21:39:47 *** circ-user-ZE6JD has joined #openttd 21:40:32 *** circ-user-ZE6JD is now known as supermop_zuArbeit 21:40:39 <supermop_zuArbeit> yo 21:40:53 <m3henry> o/ 21:43:39 <frosch123> supermop_zuArbeit: "zu" -> "auf" or "bei" 21:44:22 <supermop_zuArbeit> but i look more like eddi this way 21:44:50 *** supermop_zuArbeit is now known as supermop_imArbeit 21:46:58 *** frosch123 is now known as supereddi123 21:48:59 *** bwn has quit IRC 21:49:39 *** Borg has quit IRC 21:50:11 *** andythenorth is now known as quak 21:50:24 <quak> messing with your highlights 21:50:26 *** supermop_imArbeit is now known as mopthewest 21:52:45 <Wolf01> Nice, now I don't know anymore who is who :D 21:53:15 *** supereddi123 is now known as wolf453000 21:53:40 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 21:54:55 *** quak is now known as pikkadan 21:55:17 <pikkadan> GN :) 21:55:19 *** pikkadan has quit IRC 21:55:39 *** wolf453000 has quit IRC 21:56:54 <Wolf01> Also 21:56:56 <Wolf01> 'night 21:57:00 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 21:58:17 *** Arveen has quit IRC 22:02:55 *** Arveen has joined #openttd 22:07:18 *** Arveen2 has quit IRC 22:09:55 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:11:07 *** m3henry_ has joined #openttd 22:12:20 *** Gja has quit IRC 22:12:47 *** m3henry has quit IRC 22:12:55 <m3henry_> did I? 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