Times are UTC Toggle Colours
00:14:44 *** Flygon has joined #openttd 00:20:05 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 00:39:55 *** SpComb^ has joined #openttd 00:39:56 *** SpComb has quit IRC 00:40:00 *** SpComb has joined #openttd 00:43:44 *** SpComb has quit IRC 00:57:57 *** Speedy has quit IRC 00:58:09 *** Speedy` has joined #openttd 00:58:22 *** Speedy` is now known as Speedy 01:00:45 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 01:17:23 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 01:30:24 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 01:56:30 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 02:06:59 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 02:14:52 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 02:18:27 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 03:01:50 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 03:54:31 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 03:54:48 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 03:58:47 *** glx has quit IRC 04:37:24 *** Cubey has quit IRC 04:41:22 *** DDR has quit IRC 05:16:50 *** sim-al2 is now known as Guest2402 05:16:51 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 05:21:29 *** Guest2402 has quit IRC 06:52:00 *** Celestar1 has joined #openttd 06:57:44 *** Celestar has quit IRC 07:22:20 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 07:28:48 *** john has joined #openttd 08:22:34 *** Celestar1 has quit IRC 08:24:39 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 08:27:28 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 08:35:46 *** john has quit IRC 08:42:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 09:07:26 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 10:31:11 *** Supercheese has quit IRC 10:36:23 *** Breckett has quit IRC 11:08:31 *** m3henry has joined #openttd 11:08:48 <m3henry> Morning all 12:02:00 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 12:26:24 *** john has joined #openttd 12:50:03 <m3henry> ls 12:51:25 <LordAro> bin dev home lib64 mnt proc root sbin srv sys usr 12:52:14 <m3henry> cd mnt && ls 12:52:45 *** john has quit IRC 12:56:00 <crem1> How did LordAro's working dir happen to be / 12:56:38 *** Breckett has joined #openttd 12:58:16 <LordAro> 12:58:34 <LordAro> crem1: happened to be the least private directory i could think of on short notice :p 13:12:07 *** Breckett has quit IRC 13:13:24 *** Borg has joined #openttd 13:21:35 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:21:41 <Samu> hi 13:33:38 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 13:33:44 <m3henry> 'lo 13:33:52 <Samu> hi 13:34:05 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 13:34:19 <Samu> I'm still looking for the best bus AI 13:34:27 <Samu> currently watching PathZilla 13:49:54 <Samu> updating a fleet with 90 buses.... omg the jams 13:51:35 <Samu> So, PathZilla is the jam master 13:51:46 <Samu> gotta be careful with its settings 14:05:14 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:16:01 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 14:18:50 <Samu> even with a light level of traffic settings, there's jams 14:18:56 <Samu> t.t 14:43:52 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 14:51:24 *** john has joined #openttd 14:52:13 *** Laedek has joined #openttd 14:52:29 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 15:07:26 <Samu> hmm, i like PathZilla station layout style, but overall it's too jammy, even with the light traffic option set 15:08:38 <Samu> i see it doesn't autoreplace. it does autorenew but once a model expires, the old busses stay, generating tons of breakdowns and delays for the other buses 15:09:02 <Samu> okay, next! 15:17:02 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 15:18:51 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:18:52 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:25:32 <m3henry> 'lo 15:25:39 <Samu> hi 15:25:46 <Samu> taking a quick look at PAXLink 15:26:21 <m3henry> What's your end goal? 15:26:23 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 15:26:46 <Samu> i think PAXLink could be useful for very large capacity airports/airplanes 15:27:43 <Samu> seems very experimental indeed 15:28:08 <Samu> as if it was being a test for some other major AI to implement the idea 15:29:47 <Alberth> aka PAXlink2 :) 15:32:26 <Samu> it's unable to turn a profit on its own 15:32:57 <Samu> at least, when starting in 1950 15:33:14 <Samu> got to try different years 15:33:29 <Alberth> thus it needs further work to make the idea feasible :) 15:33:51 <Alberth> does it assume cargodist? 15:34:18 <Samu> im unsure 15:35:05 <Samu> what I see is buses transfering passengers to the airport in the same town, and aircrafts travelling between towns 15:35:21 <Samu> i suppose cargodist could help it 15:38:06 <Samu> okay, a paxlink bankrupted in 1962, a new one started on this year, let's see 15:39:58 <Samu> terrible bus management, :( 15:40:19 <Samu> i see lost buses, buses with only 1 order, missing bus stations :( 15:40:30 <Samu> probably stuff caused by out of money 15:41:42 <Samu> building a statue as the first thing to do, is seriously dumb :( 15:47:44 <Samu> this AI is definitely not ready for infrastructure maintenance costs 15:48:15 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 15:50:11 <m3henry> Alberth: Who looks after the build farm? 15:50:27 <Alberth> nobody, I think 15:50:33 <m3henry> ah 15:50:36 <Alberth> but I don't know 15:50:59 <Alberth> LordAro: ^ Do you know? 15:51:02 <m3henry> That would make updating it hard 15:51:31 <Alberth> why? nobody who disagrees :) 15:51:37 <LordAro> frosch, mostly, i think 15:51:40 <LordAro> or TB 15:52:43 <LordAro> last i heard TB had nearly finished a docker reimplementation 15:52:56 <LordAro> but that's all i know 15:53:02 <LordAro> i've not seen any of it 15:55:50 <m3henry> Argh, when you enable full logging and tmux has issues keeping up 15:55:54 *** JacobD88 has joined #openttd 15:58:52 <Samu> wish i could hack into paxlink code and remove code where he builds statues 15:59:10 <Samu> would solve half of the money problems 16:07:28 <Samu> nah, 1962 paxlink still fails 16:07:59 <Alberth> it's squirrel, source code is in the package 16:09:14 <Samu> the one starting in 1950 is doing good, i'm a bit surprised 16:09:24 <Samu> well, all 3 started in 1950 16:09:29 <Samu> only one made it 16:10:43 <Samu> so, it has a chance to succeed 16:10:50 <Samu> a slim one, but it does 16:12:20 *** supermop_work has joined #openttd 16:13:23 <supermop_work> yo 16:14:14 <Samu> he seriously should stop building statues 16:14:21 <Samu> okay... enough paxlink, next 16:19:13 <Samu> RoadAi 16:19:26 <Samu> using full load orders for buses... jam magnet 16:27:14 <Samu> full loading is the major issue, otherwise, it looks neat 16:30:52 *** DDR has joined #openttd 16:33:07 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 16:39:01 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 16:40:51 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:44:57 <Samu> alright, i've seen enough, i like it how it connects everytown 16:45:35 <Samu> the full load ruins a bit, and honestly, i've seen better, but overall it's good 16:45:54 <Samu> seems to suffer from the engine model expiring 16:46:00 <Samu> doesn't autoreplace 16:47:24 <Samu> Now, RoadRunner... says it's the coninuation of PaxZilla, very well 16:58:50 <Samu> great 16:59:11 <Samu> hereford bus became available and RoadRunner wasted no time to replace every bus 17:16:14 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 17:30:05 *** Alberth has left #openttd 17:35:19 *** m3henry has quit IRC 17:38:58 *** john has quit IRC 17:39:23 <Samu> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=77351 ppl dont like towns expanding? 17:40:05 <Samu> it kinda sucks when they don't-... 17:40:08 <peter1138> I would've voted "original" but hey 17:40:42 <Samu> i don't like when they expand ultra fast though 17:42:44 <Samu> i voted random 17:43:32 <Samu> i prefer them to expand slow, the slowest possible 17:44:14 <Samu> not sure which road layout is better to achieve "slowest" expanding 17:46:34 <Samu> might be somethingworth testin 18:00:12 <Samu> better roads is currently leading, grid 2x2 is last place, but this is still too early 18:01:33 <Samu> original is now ahead, grid 3x3 is last 18:02:14 <Samu> yeah, this keeps chaning too quickly 18:02:29 <Samu> better wait now 18:04:24 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 18:05:08 <Borg> Samu: it depends I guess 18:05:27 <Borg> I play mostly on Industry stuff.. I need small town as my goods dumping grounds ;) 18:05:33 <Borg> 2.5k town size is enough 18:05:40 <Borg> so Im glad.. when it not grows more ;) 18:06:06 <Borg> anyway. I fixed my issue.. I have GS running.. that limit town size 18:08:22 *** Progman has joined #openttd 18:09:15 <Samu> oh you want towns to be like an industry 18:09:34 <Samu> better create an industry and call it town :( 18:11:18 <Borg> nah... 18:11:21 <Borg> its all right.. w/ that GS 18:12:02 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:12:02 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:14:36 <Samu> which gs, 18:14:47 <Samu> mczapkie? 18:14:48 <Borg> its my own stuff. 18:14:54 <Borg> it does few things... 18:15:12 <Samu> is it downloadable 18:15:14 <Borg> first... rebuild industries for 20 years.. (parameter) 18:15:25 <Borg> second.. optional town limit size (town and cities) 18:15:31 <Samu> can download it in-game, that is 18:15:35 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 18:15:48 <Borg> 3th.. (branch for now) its sectorized openttd experiment ;) 18:16:05 <Borg> I can give you zip if you want.. I didnt publish it.. since its not necessary.. as GS runs on server 18:16:47 <Samu> :( no thx, i would prefer to test stuff available in-game :o 18:17:03 <Borg> well.. nothing to test to.. it just does what it does... :) 18:20:34 <Samu> roadrunner is a bit slow, just like pathzilla 18:24:20 *** JacobD88 has quit IRC 18:24:25 *** john has joined #openttd 18:25:03 <Samu> i gotta retest roadrunner one more time, without full load 18:25:11 <Samu> nice to have the option to disable full load 18:28:43 <Samu> as for town drowth 18:29:03 <Samu> grid 3x3 is starting to get a lead 18:29:49 <Samu> grid 2x2 and better roads seem tied for slowest 18:29:58 <Samu> i want them to untie 18:45:44 <DorpsGek> Commit by translators :: r27966 /trunk/src/lang (portuguese.txt spanish_MX.txt) (2018-01-22 19:45:38 +0100 ) 18:45:45 <DorpsGek> -Update from Eints: 18:45:46 <DorpsGek> spanish (mexican): 32 changes by Absay 18:45:47 <DorpsGek> portuguese: 41 changes by Samu 18:47:22 *** Coobies has joined #openttd 18:54:15 *** Cubey has quit IRC 18:55:11 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 19:02:10 *** qwebirc13472 has joined #openttd 19:05:36 *** qwebirc13472 has quit IRC 19:12:00 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 19:20:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:24:43 *** Mahjong has joined #openttd 19:25:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 19:25:04 <andythenorth> o/ 19:25:48 <Mahjong> hey guys, new to running a server, is it just like... a simple installer to update, it won't overwrite my config or anything will it 19:31:18 <frosch123> that question makes no sense 19:31:26 <frosch123> there is no separate server installation 19:31:37 <frosch123> it's the same thing, there is only one config 19:33:16 <Mahjong> yes I am starting to realise that lol, stupid question 19:33:20 <LordAro> there is no openttd.cfg file included in the download 19:33:22 <Mahjong> sorry I run a lot of different servers 19:33:24 <LordAro> just overwrite 19:33:30 <LordAro> back it up if you're worried 19:33:42 <Mahjong> yeah making a copy now 19:34:38 <LordAro> openttd.cfg is the only config file though 19:34:45 <LordAro> (readme section 4.2 is likely useful) 19:37:05 *** Laedek has quit IRC 19:41:54 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 19:43:36 <andythenorth> is it cat? 19:46:16 <andythenorth> I miss Beluga 19:46:23 <andythenorth> @seen Belugas 19:46:23 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: Belugas was last seen in #openttd 42 weeks, 2 days, 23 hours, 27 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <Belugas> yeah, a birthday :) a good friend of mine! 19:47:50 <LordAro> frosch123: so, compile farms 19:48:53 <frosch123> https://github.com/TrueBrain/OpenTTD-CF/tree/windows <- that's all i know 19:49:02 <frosch123> haven't seen tb in a while 19:50:44 <LordAro> TrueBrain: mild poke 19:50:54 <LordAro> looks relatively complete 20:01:28 <Samu> lord aro, will u add autoreplace to aroai? 20:01:50 <Samu> or does he do it already? can't remember 20:03:04 <Samu> @seen xarick 20:03:04 <DorpsGek> Samu: xarick was last seen in #openttd 1 year, 32 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 8 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Xarick> test 20:03:15 <Samu> oh, really? 20:04:43 <Samu> @seen Samu 20:04:43 <DorpsGek> Samu: Samu was last seen in #openttd 1 minute and 27 seconds ago: <Samu> oh, really? 20:05:27 <Samu> @seen Samu 20:05:27 <DorpsGek> Samu: Samu was last seen in #openttd 43 seconds ago: <Samu> @seen Samu 20:06:44 <andythenorth> at least it doesn't recurse eh? 20:13:25 *** DDR has quit IRC 20:13:30 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 20:14:09 <supermop_work> so some tcp issue makes it so i can't get on irc from home anymore 20:16:16 *** Gja has joined #openttd 20:27:00 <Samu> gonna take a quick look at AroAI 20:27:40 <LordAro> :) 20:27:44 <LordAro> it's quite simple 20:28:10 <Samu> does he autoreplace to newer models? 20:28:17 <LordAro> can't remember 20:30:03 <Samu> Sleeping because there is nothing to build... uh... he left a town without a service 20:30:38 <Samu> a big one, city status town 20:36:24 <Samu> https://imgur.com/4wtwuHq 20:40:31 <LordAro> iirc it leaves the biggest city as it assumes all the other AIs/players are using it 20:41:12 <Samu> oh 20:42:22 <Samu> null has crashed 20:42:28 <Samu> event is unhandled 20:42:36 <Samu> that was a ufo crashing on a bus 20:48:44 <Samu> buses were renewed 20:49:19 <Samu> waiting for hereford leopard release 20:50:16 <Samu> accepted preview of hereford bus :p 20:50:32 <Samu> but nothing else happens 20:53:26 <Samu> back to town growth algorithm 20:53:35 <Samu> Original has the slowest growth 20:53:49 <Samu> Grid 3x3 has the fastest growth 20:54:00 <Samu> there's a clear difference now 20:54:13 <Borg> supermop_work: like wgat TCP issue? 20:54:18 <Borg> s/wgat/what/ 20:56:08 <supermop_work> no idea 20:56:36 <Borg> timeout? message? 20:57:00 <Borg> also, get some decent IRC client... 20:58:00 <Samu> https://webchat.oftc.net/ 20:58:15 <Samu> i use that 20:58:39 <Borg> webchat is for Quiche Eaters ;] 20:58:54 <ST2> by decent Borg wanted to say a Dedicated IRC client ^^ 20:59:01 <Borg> of course.. 20:59:02 <ST2> web based are crappy 20:59:50 <ST2> ofc, always usefull when ppl don't know how to setup a dedicated one ^^ 21:00:17 <ST2> or lazyness strikes - who knows xD 21:00:36 <Borg> well.. its lazyness I think... 21:01:02 <Borg> milenials.. after all... 21:01:16 <Borg> ;) 21:04:45 <Supercheese> oh, the irony 21:06:04 <Borg> do I sound ironic to you? 21:06:19 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 21:07:25 <Supercheese> not at all, especially since this is text-only chat 21:07:46 <Borg> oh.. text-only chat.... 21:07:53 <Borg> sounds not enough for you to express yourself? 21:09:04 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 21:09:30 <Supercheese> I prefer to espresso myself 21:09:37 <Supercheese> I perform better when highly caffeinated 21:10:55 <Samu> waiting for 21:10:58 <Samu> 1986 21:11:14 <Samu> to see what AroAI do when he can't autorenew his buses 21:16:23 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 21:17:59 <Samu> does nothing 21:18:07 <Samu> breakdowns everywhere 21:18:13 <LordAro> figures 21:18:48 <Samu> profits don't decrease, hmm too easu settings 21:18:51 <Samu> needs more inflation 21:18:58 <Samu> j/k 21:19:30 <Borg> Back in the days when computers had front panels, this was actually done occasionally. Your typical Real Programmer knew the entire bootstrap loader by memory in hex, and toggled it in whenever it got destroyed by his program. 21:19:40 <Borg> hahaha :D I love this text. its hilarous... 21:19:47 <Borg> anyway.. time to take a nap... 21:21:30 <Samu> now checking SimpleAI and his bus service potential :o 21:22:15 <Samu> oh, he does mail too 21:32:03 *** Borg has quit IRC 21:40:59 *** chomwitt has joined #openttd 21:43:46 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 21:49:41 <Samu> not bad 21:51:53 <Samu> could be better, but it's not too bad 21:56:04 *** Compu has quit IRC 21:57:39 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:02:31 *** Compu has joined #openttd 22:04:43 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 22:06:55 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 22:19:11 *** Progman has quit IRC 22:19:36 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 22:35:29 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 23:01:36 *** john has quit IRC 23:03:27 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 23:10:22 <Samu> syntrans doesn't autorenew buses 23:12:22 <Samu> nevermind, he just started upgrading buses 23:17:13 <Samu> hmm some buses were not replaced... :( 23:17:19 <Samu> but the majority was 23:17:24 <Samu> were* 23:17:42 <Samu> __ln__: english? 23:28:12 *** Biolunar has quit IRC 23:28:45 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 23:29:10 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:32:54 *** Gustavo6046 has quit IRC 23:34:20 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 23:34:20 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 23:35:59 *** blathijs has quit IRC 23:39:16 *** blathijs has joined #openttd 23:41:14 *** tokai has quit IRC 23:57:33 *** Flygon has joined #openttd