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08:07:55 <__ln__> glad to see they didn't take your irc 08:08:51 <Wolf01> Eh, also that, I wasn't able to connect 08:12:28 <__ln__> find yourself in the pic: https://tefficient.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Ookla-speed-Aug-2017-vs-GBoU-FY-2016-tefficient.jpg 08:14:08 <Wolf01> That's mobile data, if it was for cabled then we would have been between x: 0-10 and y: 3-4 08:15:32 <Wolf01> The average adsl speed in Italy is 7MBit, and fiber is 15-50MBit (and they sell you 100MBit with 50 being the minimum) 08:15:48 *** Laedek_ has joined #openttd 08:19:01 *** Laedek has quit IRC 08:28:01 *** m1cr0man has quit IRC 08:28:09 *** m1cr0man has joined #openttd 08:31:10 *** Progman has joined #openttd 08:38:35 *** Arveen2 is now known as MostLikelyArveen 08:40:17 *** Guest60 has quit IRC 08:40:26 *** ATMunn has joined #openttd 08:40:49 *** TrueBrain_ has quit IRC 08:40:54 *** ATMunn is now known as Guest259 08:41:03 *** TrueBrain_ has joined #openttd 08:59:52 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:08:17 *** kais58 has quit IRC 09:08:32 *** kais58 has joined #openttd 09:17:21 *** Eddi|zuHause has quit IRC 09:18:57 *** Eddi|zuHause has joined #openttd 09:20:17 *** Osai has quit IRC 09:20:48 *** Osai has joined #openttd 09:42:01 *** roidal has joined #openttd 09:43:42 *** keoz has quit IRC 09:49:11 *** bwn has quit IRC 10:20:46 *** Cubey has quit IRC 10:20:54 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 10:31:24 *** supermop has joined #openttd 10:33:10 *** Samu has joined #openttd 10:33:38 <Samu> if days could be represented by a color, which color would that be? 10:35:15 <Wolf01> Every day is grey 10:35:50 <Samu> ok, ty 10:37:25 *** Biolunar has joined #openttd 10:39:26 *** supermop has quit IRC 10:44:50 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 10:46:26 <andythenorth> o/ 10:52:48 *** synchris has joined #openttd 11:13:24 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 11:13:24 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 11:13:29 <Alberth> o/ 11:41:29 <andythenorth> hi Alberth 11:41:41 <Alberth> o/ 12:04:21 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 12:31:16 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 12:31:29 *** supermop has joined #openttd 12:39:34 *** supermop has quit IRC 12:50:56 *** Samu has quit IRC 12:58:08 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 12:58:41 *** okiki has quit IRC 13:00:43 <andythenorth> so are small and large freighters visually different enough? http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8877/freighters.png 13:00:46 <andythenorth> or confusing? 13:05:08 <frosch123> they are clearly from the same manufacturer 13:06:27 <frosch123> mini and small freighter could use a single compartment instead of two 13:07:12 <frosch123> large freighter could have two chimneys 13:07:20 <Alberth> I'd make micro a single compartment 13:07:34 <frosch123> that does nto work with the crane in the middle 13:08:05 <Alberth> swap mini and micro crane? 13:08:13 <frosch123> btw. is the green the 2cc or is it just green? 13:09:49 <frosch123> the hull could have various 2cc elements to add variety 13:10:09 <frosch123> large one could have a big 2cc anchor or something 13:10:59 <andythenorth> green is 2xx 13:11:02 <andythenorth> 2cc 13:13:11 <frosch123> i guess most noticeable for differentiation would be different hull colors/additions or different house colors 13:13:19 <andythenorth> yeah that's for other types 13:13:30 <andythenorth> the main thing is that large one looks bigger than small one? 13:13:43 <frosch123> in direct comparision it does :) 13:15:13 *** tokai has joined #openttd 13:15:14 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 13:18:19 <andythenorth> after NRT is merged, we can fix water stuff :) 13:22:03 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 13:57:41 <nielsm> coding style question the wiki doesn't seem to answer: are C++11 constructs allowed? specifically "auto" type inference and ranged "for" loops 13:58:12 <LordAro> nope 13:58:19 <LordAro> build system doesn't support it 13:58:32 <LordAro> (yes, we all know this is awful ans want to fix it) 13:58:34 <LordAro> frosch123: fix 13:58:41 <nielsm> ugh 13:58:57 <nielsm> :( 13:59:04 <LordAro> well, to be more accurate the compile farm doesn't support it 13:59:11 <LordAro> build system is fine with it 14:03:09 *** Flygon has quit IRC 14:03:31 *** supermop has joined #openttd 14:11:34 *** supermop has quit IRC 14:18:45 <andythenorth> small piece goods http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8878/piece_goods_innit.png 14:23:24 <Alberth> new shape, very good! 14:26:14 <andythenorth> does it look smaller than large one? Or just further away? o_O 14:26:17 <andythenorth> ships :P 14:27:40 <Alberth> in the 3d view of openttd, that will work I think 14:27:58 <Alberth> although perspective is a mess anyway :) 14:40:23 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 14:49:00 *** plp has quit IRC 14:51:10 <andythenorth> basically it's this http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2039562 14:51:15 <andythenorth> but the funnels are moved 14:57:33 <Alberth> and quite more long :) 15:24:25 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:45:22 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest278 15:45:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:49:11 *** Guest278 has quit IRC 15:55:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:01:29 *** supermop has joined #openttd 16:46:02 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:46:47 <SpComb> http://users.qmsk.net/~terom/quake2.zip 16:46:51 <SpComb> oops 16:52:25 <Alberth> obviously you should always encrypt your data :p 17:03:16 <nielsm> just want to advertise again that I've put a bunch of patches for music playback on windows up on the bugtracker and would appreciate if someone could review them :) 17:14:09 <andythenorth> supermop: somewhat http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8879/trawler_eh.png 17:17:48 *** Mahjong1 has joined #openttd 17:24:18 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 17:25:16 *** Mahjong has quit IRC 17:29:06 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest286 17:29:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 17:32:06 *** Guest286 has quit IRC 17:46:55 *** Cubey has joined #openttd 17:50:11 *** supermop has quit IRC 17:59:15 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:59:15 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 18:17:05 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 18:25:36 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 18:26:48 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 18:27:55 <Alberth> I like the brighter blue, andy 18:28:06 <andythenorth> different eh? 18:28:14 <andythenorth> the shape is not good though 18:31:32 *** supermop has joined #openttd 18:32:29 <andythenorth> meanwhile http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8880/bah_bah_bah.png 18:32:34 <andythenorth> small livestock ship 18:32:43 <Wolf01> Nice colour scheme 18:36:35 <andythenorth> the roof is a straight copy from a tanker 18:36:39 <andythenorth> but seems to work fine 18:36:45 <andythenorth> all ships are made of other ships in Sam 18:37:42 <andythenorth> hmm 18:37:46 <andythenorth> trawlers, dunno 18:41:23 <andythenorth> not sure about sizing 18:42:21 <andythenorth> trawlers seem to be shorter compared to cargo ships 18:42:23 <andythenorth> or taller hull 18:43:30 <andythenorth> and they have structures (A frame masts) which are hard in TTD pixels http://www.groundfishforum.site.aplus.net/aksctestsite/WP/wp-content/uploads/USI-740x350-2016.jpg 18:44:02 <Alberth> livestock stuff is too long 18:44:21 <andythenorth> it runs too far to front? 18:44:58 <Alberth> yes, and moving the entire thing a bit forward wouldn't be wrong either imho 18:45:14 <Alberth> looks a bit very tight now 18:49:35 <andythenorth> I could make a gap http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/middle/4/2/1/1224124.jpg 18:50:48 <andythenorth> mine was more like http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2784061 18:51:13 <andythenorth> child #1 thinks I should move house to front 18:51:15 <Alberth> ha ha, black hole 18:51:17 <andythenorth> to match large one 18:51:46 <Alberth> seems like fun to do, just to get remarks about it :p 18:52:08 <andythenorth> I tried one house forward, but it was ugly :P 19:02:16 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 19:07:14 <Wolf01> So is NRT in trunk yet? 19:08:24 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 19:16:46 *** Guest259 is now known as ATMunn 19:19:31 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 19:20:11 <Eddi|zuHause> how about merging NRT and immediately calling it 1.8.0 with no testing? :p 19:20:21 <Wolf01> That was the proposal 19:20:59 <Wolf01> We even fixed loading trunk saves 19:22:15 <Wolf01> Or, we would like to fix it the correct way by bumping the savegame version, but meh, we should pay more attention the next time, like using a version like trunk+1000 19:30:14 <andythenorth> Alberth: http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8881/bah_bah_bah_2.png 19:30:46 <Wolf01> It looks better 19:30:51 <Alberth> seems better than previously 19:31:10 <andythenorth> probably needs a bit of work 19:31:18 <andythenorth> but there is a logic to the size, based on the pattern 19:32:01 <Alberth> backside of the frontbow looks a bit weird? 19:32:10 <andythenorth> yes 19:32:18 <andythenorth> might need a small structure there 19:32:19 <andythenorth> not sure 19:33:35 <Alberth> the long top horizontal line is too long, running behind the vertical pipe(?) 19:37:58 <andythenorth> alternately http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8883/mu_mu.png 19:40:08 <Wolf01> Mmmh 19:40:28 <Wolf01> Looks too much like the bigger version 19:41:09 <andythenorth> I agree 19:41:16 <andythenorth> it's a better sprite though 19:41:23 <Wolf01> Yes 19:50:45 <andythenorth> alternate http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8884/mu_mu_2.png 19:50:48 <andythenorth> might work 19:52:31 <Wolf01> Might work, it looks too much like a ferry, but might work 19:54:00 * Wolf01 > pub 20:00:11 <supermop> andythenorth: do the cows walk onto that stern deck area? 20:07:36 *** Alberth has left #openttd 20:10:32 <andythenorth> probably 20:14:19 <andythenorth> family tree http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8885/such_ship.png 20:41:34 <andythenorth> trawlers are a total PITA 21:00:13 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 21:16:21 <nielsm> oh yeah! I think I've done it :) written a working (but still buggy) new music driver for win32, that doesn't depend on deprecate directmusic or slow mci 21:16:53 <nielsm> instead reading the midi files directly and using straight midiOut* 21:18:24 <glx> oh nice 21:19:13 <nielsm> one advantage of that would also be that it should be possible to write a reader for the DOS version music catalog files 21:20:17 *** Smedles has quit IRC 21:21:41 *** Smedles has joined #openttd 21:23:25 <andythenorth> trawlers http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8886/fish_fish_fish.png 21:23:27 <andythenorth> dunno yet 21:24:14 *** roidal has quit IRC 21:24:37 <nielsm> the shading looks wrong there, even if it's intended 21:25:13 <andythenorth> the light blue? 21:25:16 <nielsm> yeah 21:25:35 <andythenorth> is a challenge to incorporate that 21:25:44 <nielsm> it looks like a posterization effect gone wrong to me 21:26:40 <andythenorth> http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8887/techno_trawler.png 21:26:54 <andythenorth> might be restrictive 21:27:24 * andythenorth tries to make worst colour combo :P 21:27:42 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 21:29:03 <andythenorth> more tasteful :P http://dev.openttdcoop.org/attachments/download/8888/ice_trawler.png 21:30:50 <andythenorth> yeah the green and red is worst :) 21:35:10 *** john-aj has joined #openttd 21:39:38 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 21:40:21 <nielsm> lol, after first playthrouh of the theme song finished, it just started farting instead of playing it again 21:45:12 *** john-aj has quit IRC 21:54:53 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 21:58:28 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:58:47 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 22:00:12 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 22:07:10 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 22:11:16 *** supermop has quit IRC 22:16:19 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 22:16:38 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has joined #openttd 22:17:10 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 22:19:44 <andythenorth> such blue 22:23:07 <andythenorth> https://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?p=1203742#p1203742 22:26:52 <frosch123> rainbow CC 22:29:19 <peter1138> RGB CC! 22:29:26 <peter1138> Cos totally pointless 22:30:37 <frosch123> hmm, alpine linux 22:31:48 *** andythenorth is now known as Guest301 22:31:54 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 22:32:54 * peter1138 git pulls expecting nothing and... getting nothing. 22:35:15 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 22:35:25 *** grossing has quit IRC 22:35:28 *** grossing has joined #openttd 22:36:55 *** Guest301 has quit IRC 22:46:20 <nielsm> ah yeah, volume control in my new midi driver also works without affecting the sound effects volume (or anything else) 22:46:34 *** Antheus has quit IRC 22:46:38 *** Antheus has joined #openttd 22:46:52 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:47:52 *** gelignite has quit IRC 22:49:50 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 22:51:04 *** SpComb has quit IRC 22:51:09 *** SpComb has joined #openttd 22:52:58 *** chomwitt has quit IRC 23:00:24 *** FLHerne has quit IRC 23:05:11 *** juzza1 has quit IRC 23:05:38 *** juzza1 has joined #openttd 23:08:39 *** gnu_jj has quit IRC 23:08:42 *** gnu_jj has joined #openttd 23:10:48 *** synchris has quit IRC 23:12:22 *** ToffeeYogurtPots has quit IRC 23:37:55 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 23:41:44 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd