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OpenTTD doesnt have one .. now what? :P 17:58:12 <Wolf01> Use mine 17:58:25 <TrueBrain> you understand the cost that can be charged on it, right? :P 17:58:39 <Wolf01> :P 17:59:39 <Wolf01> I need to sign up to azure multilingual app toolkit instead 18:00:41 <Wolf01> They changed the way it works and now requires an account even for self made translations 18:01:39 <TrueBrain> booooo 18:04:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 18:04:38 <Wolf01> o/ 18:05:07 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't have a credit card... 18:07:24 <andythenorth> o/ 18:19:24 *** keoz has quit IRC 18:28:38 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:35:38 <Pikka> o/ 18:52:42 *** Alberth has left #openttd 18:58:21 <Pikka> how are we drawing the insides of loco cabs these days? detailed or just black? 18:59:07 <Wolf01> Detailed to the labels on controls 18:59:48 <Pikka> https://i.imgur.com/eTPFnIZ.png 19:01:01 <Wolf01> Nice 19:08:08 <andythenorth> black 19:09:01 <andythenorth> http://bundles.openttdcoop.org/road-hog/push/LATEST/docs/html/static/img/buildwas_open.png 19:09:48 <Pikka> is a toby 19:10:21 <andythenorth> yair 19:12:42 <andythenorth> so 19:12:49 *** beno has quit IRC 19:13:38 <andythenorth> I automate compositing cargos + vehicles 19:13:51 <andythenorth> and I automated compositing the vehicle from parts 19:13:57 <andythenorth> so now I'm automating creating the cargo sprites 19:14:05 <andythenorth> logical outcome, or batshit crazy? 19:14:35 <Pikka> why not automating 19:16:38 <andythenorth> "eventually I'll be able to create entire newgrfs by clicking just one button" 19:16:40 <andythenorth> or something 19:17:38 <Pikka> well... one button and a certain amount of preparation work. :) 19:20:03 <supermop_work_> Pikka: fire cycle colors at open coal grate of course 19:22:36 <andythenorth> that assumes you can use animation :P 19:23:28 <Pikka> I imagine the fire cycle works in the cc mask sprite... but no ;) 19:30:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:41:41 *** keoz has joined #openttd 19:41:43 *** Thedarkb has joined #openttd 19:42:00 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 19:42:17 <supermop_work_> PALLET_CRASH does it make everything in the sprite dark grey? 19:42:26 *** synchris has quit IRC 19:42:49 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 19:43:00 <supermop_work_> ie i could not use it to make a 'black' car, because the widows and headlights would also turn grey? 19:44:14 <supermop_work_> also i love that there is a variable for if a vehicle is crashed.. like can i increase cargo capacity of crashed vehicles? 19:44:42 <supermop_work_> composite on sprites of blood and bodies on the pavement? 19:44:44 <Pikka> fo sho 19:44:44 <Wolf01> Maybe you can change the graphics of a crashed vehicle 19:45:29 <supermop_work_> billowing smoke and fire? 19:45:54 <supermop_work_> wailing sound effects 19:47:10 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:08:51 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 20:51:57 <Wolf01> 'night 20:52:01 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 20:52:55 *** nielsm has quit IRC 21:02:03 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 21:03:51 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 21:08:00 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:08:53 *** test12345 has joined #openttd 21:10:01 <test12345> I was playing OpenTTD lately and I'm wondering. How can the train manufacturers deliver trains to your depot when you don't have connection with the outside world? 21:10:14 <test12345> It's kind of a paradox 21:13:07 <ST2> it's a game - real life comparisons are hard to make - it's like on Factorio that the character carry train locomotives on a backpack xD 21:14:12 <test12345> lol 21:14:29 <test12345> That's very painful 21:15:34 <andythenorth> the depot has a wormhole in it 21:15:48 *** andythenorth has left #openttd 21:15:48 *** debdog has quit IRC 21:15:54 <ST2> well, there's the technical explanation xD 21:16:05 *** supermop has quit IRC 21:17:07 <test12345> Its contruction would cost a bit too much compared to the construction of the actual depot 21:17:14 <test12345> :p 21:17:21 *** debdog has joined #openttd 21:18:34 <test12345> Even more if the map is big 21:22:34 *** gelignite has quit IRC 21:24:23 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:25:44 *** supermop has joined #openttd 21:26:08 *** test12345 has quit IRC 21:47:46 *** keoz has quit IRC 21:48:38 <supermop> maybe i should draw transporter sprites finally 21:53:12 *** sim-al2 has joined #openttd 21:54:47 <supermop> its really just two flat beds stacked 22:08:55 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 22:19:07 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:33:07 <TrueBrain> I email AWS about asking what they can do for OpenTTD .. and I get a very non-sensible answer in return .. wtf is this shit ... 22:33:27 <TrueBrain> they suggest me to look in a program of theirs, which helps people run events sponsored by AWS ........ WUTH?! :P 22:33:42 *** Pikka has quit IRC 22:37:03 <LordAro> lol 22:37:32 <TrueBrain> then the next suggestion (they had multiple, as my question was clearly too vague, but they repeated the question perfectly fine) is to look into business sales .. 22:37:43 <TrueBrain> but they are also very helpful in linking the getting started ... 22:37:45 <TrueBrain> WUTH?! 22:37:53 <TrueBrain> okay ... lets try the NPO entry, see if they can help .. 22:41:40 <TrueBrain> I can rate replies :D 22:41:46 <TrueBrain> They shouldn't have done that :) 22:41:56 <TrueBrain> *wrote some nice words about not helping me* :) 22:43:40 <TrueBrain> and every form demands you fill in things like addresses, phone numbers, etc 22:43:48 <TrueBrain> I just want to ask a simple question :( 22:44:47 <LordAro> what do you have AWS in mind for? 22:44:56 <TrueBrain> EVERYTHING :P 22:45:08 <TrueBrain> but to start with, they can take care of the link between GH and the build-farm 22:45:36 <TrueBrain> that does fit fine in the free tier btw, but I was asking them to possibilities further down the line 22:45:42 <TrueBrain> for example, could they do the CDN for the content service 22:45:50 <TrueBrain> not saying we should, but could we? What does it cost? etc 22:46:02 <LordAro> mm 22:46:22 <TrueBrain> serverless hosting is a lot easier for a project like OpenTTD :) 22:46:56 <LordAro> i dislike "serverless" as a buzzword 22:47:08 <TrueBrain> that is why I use it in the technical sense :) 22:47:17 <glx> the buzzword is cloud :) 22:47:27 <LordAro> ...really 22:47:55 <TrueBrain> I mean, if all we have to do is upload a BaNaNaS file to an S3 bucket .. 22:48:03 <TrueBrain> that would cut on a lot of scripting and other non-sense 22:48:14 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 22:48:40 <LordAro> oh yes, i forget about buckets and such like 22:48:45 <LordAro> i've never really used AWS 22:49:03 <TrueBrain> me neither 22:49:11 <TrueBrain> but it seems they can greatly help us reduce complexity 22:49:29 <TrueBrain> and help us only do stuff that matters 22:49:36 <TrueBrain> instead of bullshit like upgrading to MySQL 5.7 ... 22:50:14 <LordAro> well i don't see how you're going to get away from that :p 22:50:16 <LordAro> not entirely 22:50:28 <TrueBrain> the world isn't black and white 22:50:40 <TrueBrain> now I have to do 100%. If we can cut this to 10% by using AWS 22:50:44 <TrueBrain> that sounds like a 90% win to me :) 22:51:35 <LordAro> i feel it'd be less of an issue if it wasn't all entirely relying on you 22:52:08 <TrueBrain> we searched and looked .. nobody ever helped fixing only a single issue, except for Rb (and some other devs) 22:52:15 <TrueBrain> so you can either hold on to a seemly broken concept 22:52:25 <TrueBrain> or move to a concept that others use, and shows potential :) 22:52:49 <TrueBrain> in general, you can really wonder if "doing it all yourself" is a maintanable goal in this world 22:53:00 <TrueBrain> serverless is a really really good idea for the small 22:53:15 <TrueBrain> do you really want to maintain any httpd ... is that really how you want to spend any of your time .. 22:53:31 <TrueBrain> sure it is "fun" and "educational" ... but that is a novalty issue 22:54:43 <LordAro> eh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:55:27 <TrueBrain> people have this weird "hanging on the past" when it comes to giving away control :) 22:55:40 <TrueBrain> but I really like serverless concept; I want to host a website, not run a LAMP :P 22:56:30 <LordAro> as long as you're ok with being reliant on a 3rd party to actually respond to issues 22:56:45 <LordAro> especially if you're on some free/sponsored tier 22:56:48 <TrueBrain> that is the only issue with clouds these days .. you do vendor-lock yourself 22:57:14 <TrueBrain> but any migration is painful tbh .. 22:57:24 <TrueBrain> either financial or time-wise 22:58:01 <TrueBrain> but, with the same argument that moving to GH is an awesome idea: movement is better than sitting stil 22:58:10 <TrueBrain> stilllllll 23:00:04 <LordAro> well, the self-hosted option was considered :p 23:00:52 *** Gja has quit IRC 23:01:15 <TrueBrain> and strongly advised against :) 23:01:27 <TrueBrain> but, movement ;) 23:01:39 <TrueBrain> owh well, pushed my exact same request to another part of AWS now .. 23:01:45 <TrueBrain> lets see what that returns ... 23:01:58 <TrueBrain> if any of you have any knowledge of Open Source projects on AWS, please do drop me a line .. 23:02:24 <TrueBrain> for now, time to get some well deserved sleep .. was a long day celibrating my birthday :D (see how I sneaked that right in there :P) 23:02:25 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 23:02:27 <TrueBrain> night :) 23:03:04 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 23:16:15 *** FLHerne has joined #openttd 23:21:35 *** Thedarkb has quit IRC 23:32:05 *** RafiX has quit IRC 23:59:54 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd