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Log for #openttd on 1st July 2018:
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18:22:36  <andythenorth> o/
18:22:42  <frosch123> moo
18:23:22  <andythenorth> ohai frosch123 :)
18:23:28  <andythenorth> I thought you had gone to lurk mode
18:23:30  <andythenorth> for new bananas
18:23:41  <frosch123> webster was broken
18:23:44  <frosch123> lurking failed
18:23:48  <andythenorth> silly old Webster
18:24:08  <andythenorth> will new bananas need a UI?
18:24:17  <andythenorth> and shall we stop calling it bananas?
18:24:22  <andythenorth> or at least call it that in game
18:24:35  <andythenorth> many questions :P
18:24:38  <frosch123> the python package is called bananas2
18:25:23  <frosch123> i don't know whether the web ui should be written in python, or in javascript accessing a python rest
18:25:29  <frosch123> since i am writing the rest first
18:25:38  <frosch123> but i do not write js :p
18:26:17  <andythenorth> I would say the modern way is js accessing a rest API
18:26:28  <planetmaker_> quak :)
18:26:31  <andythenorth> but I don't think it's true
18:26:34  <frosch123> hoi pm :)
18:26:42  <andythenorth> the 'I am too cool for school way' is js
18:27:15  <andythenorth> the way for people who don't want to waste their lives on async cb hell is to just write a http client generating html on page requests
18:27:41  <andythenorth> http client / python app /s
18:27:46  <andythenorth> dunno why I transposed those two
18:29:52  <Eddi|zuHause> i guess webster was broken since the akick?
18:29:56  <frosch123> so i'll just go with a python template engine, write a non-css plain html page with yellow background, and let someone else make it pretty :p
18:31:40  <andythenorth> frosch123: yes
18:31:59  <andythenorth> "I should definitely write a js app" is a thing that only people who haven't done it say
18:32:12  <andythenorth> everyone else inserts "maybe" instead of "definitely"
18:32:22  <Eddi|zuHause> "let someone else make it" is code for "nobody will do it"?
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18:32:31  <andythenorth> no
18:32:41  <andythenorth> it's a string constant for 'andythenorth'
18:32:51  <andythenorth> frosch just doesn't want to be unsubtle
18:33:04  <frosch123> :)
18:35:57  <nielsm> @logs
18:36:06  <nielsm> no bots :(
18:36:17  * andythenorth tidying nml issues
18:36:23  <andythenorth> frosch123 as you're here :P
18:36:39  <andythenorth> you had some rationale to not move devzone projects to github yet iirc
18:36:46  <LordAro> http://webster.openttdcoop.org/?channel=openttd
18:36:51  <andythenorth> was it 'wait for new compile openttd farm'?
18:36:55  <LordAro> i think the logs come from spike
18:36:55  <andythenorth> or maybe that was TB said that :P
18:37:09  <LordAro> andythenorth: well it's not done yet :p
18:37:14  <andythenorth> I know :P
18:37:35  <andythenorth> planetmaker: this is done eh? :D https://dev.openttdcoop.org/issues/2850
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18:40:11  <frosch123> hmm, dorpsgek wroken as well
18:40:18  <frosch123> i wonder how to fix that one
18:40:27  <LordAro> doesn't take kindly to being banned :p
18:40:48  <frosch123> andythenorth: eints and farm
18:41:14  <andythenorth> ah eints yes
18:41:16  <andythenorth> ok
18:41:40  <andythenorth> wondering if nml needs the farm
18:41:57  <andythenorth> maybe it builds win binaries
18:42:02  <frosch123> the farm runs regression thests for nml
18:42:10  <frosch123> and yes, also win binaries
18:42:13  <andythenorth> ok
18:42:20  <andythenorth> no short cuts
18:45:36  <frosch123> i don't know how eints would work on gh
18:45:55  <frosch123> for ottd we made it admin, so it can push withour pr
18:46:19  <frosch123> we could make eints fork every project and you have to pull from it yourself
18:47:09  <LordAro> sounds nasty
18:47:33  <andythenorth> could serve lang files on unauthed http
18:47:37  <andythenorth> and fetch during compile
18:47:41  <andythenorth> or something similar
18:48:04  <frosch123> eints is not meant to be the storage :)
18:48:19  <frosch123> we just delete stuff sometimes and pull again
18:48:58  <andythenorth> it could have one giant translations repo
18:49:05  <andythenorth> with paths per project
18:49:06  <andythenorth> dunno
18:49:16  <frosch123> that makes merging even harder
18:49:22  <andythenorth> yes
18:49:48  <andythenorth> branch per project
18:49:57  <andythenorth> make an eints repo as remote :P
18:50:00  <andythenorth> also terrible
18:50:27  <frosch123> i guess "fork every project, make eints branch everywhere, let authors pull/squash/rebase before release"
18:50:44  <frosch123> hmm, nah, doesn't work
18:50:46  <andythenorth> it can't just have rights on the repo and push to master?
18:50:53  <andythenorth> author adds it as a contributor
18:50:58  <frosch123> that breaks when there are merge conflicts and eints wants to pull
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18:51:07  <andythenorth> hmm
18:51:26  <andythenorth> manual pull of translations isn't worst thing
18:51:38  <frosch123> andythenorth: it would not work for ottd with pr rule, but maybe newgrf/gs do not do that stuff anyway
18:52:14  <frosch123> hmm, actually... merge does work
18:52:26  <frosch123> eints already merges translations
18:52:27  <andythenorth> so the problem with just curling the files is...no commit history, so no creds
18:52:47  * andythenorth afk for a few minutes
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18:53:01  <andythenorth> creds = credits
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18:53:46  <frosch123> planetmaker: do we already have a devzone organisation/user on gh?
18:54:12  <LordAro> "if you want to have translations automatically added, you need to add x user as a contributer to your repo"
18:54:17  <LordAro> think that could work
18:58:18  <andythenorth> frosch123: searching GH finds no obvious coop user
18:58:48  <frosch123> andythenorth: what was the subtle/unsubtle thing? :)
18:59:01  <andythenorth> me doing the templates?
18:59:34  <frosch123> i have no idea where info@o.o goes
18:59:57  <frosch123> hmm, does it even exist?
19:02:04  <frosch123> did oftc ban all the bots? there are like 40% of the regular users missing :p
19:07:29  <Eddi|zuHause> there was an... incident
19:09:08  <Eddi|zuHause> also, you mean "40% of the regular idlers" :p
19:11:11  <frosch123> was it a funny incident?
19:11:21  <Eddi|zuHause> not really?
19:11:25  <Eddi|zuHause> depends
19:11:32  <frosch123> so, not tb mistyping a command?
19:12:24  <Eddi|zuHause> from what i could reconstruct so far was that one or more persons (on freenode and here) went through bot accounts with a list of compromised username/password combinations, and then sent akick to every possible channel
19:12:59  <Eddi|zuHause> banning *@*.*
19:13:35  <frosch123> so they had access to a bot here?
19:13:42  <Eddi|zuHause> chanserv
19:14:06  <frosch123> ok, so not our bot
19:14:39  <Eddi|zuHause> i suppose nobody restarted our bots so far, i don't know who could even do that
19:15:04  <frosch123> for dorpsgek probably only truebrain
19:15:25  <frosch123> it did no listen to my invite
19:16:03  <frosch123> ah, all the coop zombies are missing as well
19:16:11  <frosch123> that's probably half of them :p
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20:06:17  <nielsm> okay time to see if my commnands and GS functions for changing industry production work!
20:12:58  <andythenorth> o_O
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20:30:42  <peter1138> 64 cargo FIRS?
20:35:05  <nielsm> oh... the regular double/halve production logic really doesn't like being called of smooth economy is enabled
20:35:09  <nielsm> need to work around that
20:35:16  <nielsm> also it doesn't seem to produce enough news
20:35:20  <nielsm> that's all for tomorrow
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20:39:51  <nielsm> https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/compare/master...nielsmh:gs-industry-control
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20:53:16  <andythenorth> peter1138: 48 cargo FIRS :)
20:53:22  <andythenorth> 64 road type NRT?
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21:08:21  <frosch123> 16 gear horse?
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21:43:01  <planetmaker_> frosch123, keep me in the loop with moving the devzone stuff to github, please. I will see what I can do to help it
21:43:16  <planetmaker_> for starters I would need to know how to convert a repo from hg to git :P
21:51:08  <Wolf01> 'night
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