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Log for #openttd on 11th July 2018:
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05:53:18  <andythenorth> o/
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06:26:43  <dihedral> hey ho
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06:50:53  <LordAro> ho hey
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09:13:48  <TrueBrain> hi andythenorth :)
09:14:15  <andythenorth> yo TrueBrain
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10:56:55  <TrueBrain> okay ... I now have a GitHub App that works, and Runners that can execute the CI/CD commands ... now I just have to make the commands ... work :D
10:59:32  <LordAro> :D
11:12:41  <peter1138> ooo
11:42:02  <dihedral> we know you are good at that
12:38:17  <planetmaker> that's why it's 'brain' in the nick, and not 'pudding'. I suppose :P
12:38:22  * planetmaker greets and quickly hides
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14:06:05  <TruePudding> tnx planetmaker
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14:17:45  <planetmaker> hihi :)
14:35:06  <LordAro> haha
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14:39:49  <andythenorth> it's the trac from HEQS :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUzpnCKNR0o
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16:59:58  <Wolf01> o/
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17:26:38  <andythenorth> o/
17:31:24  <andythenorth> sulphur sulphur sulphur mine
17:34:33  <Wolf01> Got almost half of the parts of the bucket wheel excavator, which is nice
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17:37:49  <andythenorth> I've bought it for next christmas
17:37:52  <andythenorth> it's in a cupboard
17:37:56  <andythenorth> was on discount
17:38:45  <Wolf01> I stole.. ehm, bought it with the same discount from amazon.uk, and it's on the "whan I'll have space and time I'll build it"
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17:59:35  <LordAro> it's coming home, etc
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18:00:51  <Eddi|zuHause> well, is it really?
18:03:03  <LordAro> maybe
18:06:14  <andythenorth> goal
18:10:18  <TruePudding> yippie, this somewhat starts to get shape ...
18:10:29  <TruePudding> it is now talking to a runner to execute specific things :D
18:10:38  <TruePudding> now I just have to make him do that .. and start a bunch of dockers :P
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18:11:10  <LordAro> dockers all the way down
18:11:19  <TruePudding> they arent turtles you silly
18:12:48  <LordAro> aw
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18:13:12  <debdog> they are shoes, ain't they?
18:14:08  <debdog> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Dr_martens_boots.jpg
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18:16:57  <TruePudding> LordAro: if you are interested, https://github.com/TrueBrain/OpenTTD-DorpsGek/pull/3
18:17:04  <TruePudding> its a pull requests against the one you already looked at
18:17:05  <TruePudding> it is huge
18:17:07  <TruePudding> and complex
18:17:11  <TruePudding> any feedback and suggestions are highly welcome
18:17:21  <TruePudding> and I know for sure many things can be done easier/smoother/nicer, etc
18:17:28  <TruePudding> but I first worked towards getting it functional :D
18:17:56  <LordAro> ono
18:18:20  <TruePudding> it also lacks tons of comments etc
18:18:22  <TruePudding> sorry about that
18:18:27  <LordAro> :p
18:19:22  <TruePudding> well, looking over the end result, it is not really that complex .. which is nice I guess
18:19:47  <TruePudding> I do have to split configuration from execution .. that is now all in the Job class, which is weird
18:21:12  <TruePudding> the idea behind it is, that there are runners in every env .. like there is a 'build' env, which are empty dockers where you can build dockers in. They reset every time, etc
18:21:27  <TruePudding> there is 'staging' runner, which is connected to the cluster maintaining all staged versions of all the software
18:21:30  <TruePudding> and 'production'
18:21:41  <TruePudding> the staging/production runner can start/stop dockers in their pool
18:21:55  <TruePudding> so if you do a deploy to production, the runnern in production picks that up, and makes it happen
18:23:55  <LordAro> you shouls put that in the PR :p
18:23:59  <LordAro> should*
18:24:05  <TruePudding> its a WIP, so not yet
18:24:08  <TruePudding> first I want opinions
18:24:11  <TruePudding> that is why I am telling you now :)
18:24:27  <TruePudding> (documenting something that might not stay as it is, is annoying :P)
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19:55:51  <andythenorth> I guess I should look up Apple policy on this https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/issues/6851
19:56:02  <TruePudding> or just ask him for a reference
19:56:03  <andythenorth> apps installing system wide stuff is a problem for me
19:56:06  <TruePudding> it is a bit random comment in this way :D
19:56:17  <TruePudding> don't forget you can put others to work too :D
19:56:18  <andythenorth> it causes infosec compliance headaches
19:56:28  <andythenorth> games should stay in the user dir
19:56:48  <nielsm> he does suggest putting it in the user dir
19:56:54  <nielsm> that's the ~ at the beginning
19:57:43  <nielsm> the problem is putting configuration files and more in Documents, which I believe should be the user's domain (don't put files or folders there the user didn't explicitly name themselves)
19:58:33  <Wolf01> Pudding?
19:58:46  <nielsm> (at least microsoft has a policy like that for the desktop etc. in their own platform guidelines)
19:59:17  <glx> and many still don't follow it
19:59:58  <andythenorth> oh yeah, I missed the ~
20:00:11  <andythenorth> all is well then
20:00:33  <andythenorth> useful clarification :D
20:01:09  <glx> mainly because it depends on windows version
20:05:09  <nielsm> I for one don't like ottd putting config files into Documents
20:05:46  <nielsm> on windows
20:06:07  <Wolf01> Or savegames too
20:06:24  <nielsm> (it would select the correct folder on windows 9x, but not sure about 2k, and definitely not on xp forward)
20:06:32  <Wolf01> There's the AppData for that, which is even hidden
20:07:03  <nielsm> there's also the Saved Games folder
20:07:15  <nielsm> but nothing ever used that
20:07:25  <Wolf01> But that's in the documents
20:07:30  <nielsm> no
20:07:31  <glx> and My Games too in documents
20:07:49  <Wolf01> I have 4 different folders for games in documents
20:08:00  <Wolf01> Because every developer use it's own
20:08:21  <Wolf01> And a lot of sparse ones
20:09:29  <glx> many games just add a folder in mydocs
20:10:40  <Wolf01> Games, MyGames, SavedGames, EA Games, WB Games, $gamename, $softwarehouse and some in AppData
20:10:55  <TruePudding> yes, Pudding. You have issues with that Wolf01? :D
20:11:14  <Wolf01> Nope, I was just wondering why :P
20:11:32  <TruePudding> ask planetmaker!
20:15:34  <Wolf01> planetmaker: why pudding?
20:17:15  <nielsm> that name "TruePudding" reminds me of Hatoful Boyfriend
20:17:24  <TruePudding> hatoful?
20:17:28  <glx> okkosan ?
20:18:05  <nielsm> it's a japanese dating game where you're a human girl going to school with and dating pigeons
20:18:26  <nielsm> very good story, actually
20:18:46  <glx> many unexpected endings
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20:47:25  <frosch123> the dating sim part is only the tutorial part to introduce the character
20:47:33  <frosch123> the actual game follows after
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20:52:09  <planetmaker> Wolf01, because TrueBrain doesn't believe in himself :P
20:52:30  <planetmaker> hi also :)
20:52:34  <Wolf01> o/
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21:21:28  <Eddi|zuHause> so, did it actually come home?
21:21:47  <andythenorth> if home is Paris, yes
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21:31:05  <TruePudding> hmm .. my clipboard to IRC no longer works
21:31:07  <TruePudding> annoying :D
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21:32:13  <TrueBrain> https://github.com/TrueBrain/OpenTTD-DorpsGek/blob/fd8f7399b47e227b58a8b86458c0187cdf58099c/docs/continuous_deployment.md
21:32:16  <TrueBrain> LordAro: specially for you!
21:32:21  <andythenorth> docs eh
21:36:03  <TrueBrain> better URL: https://github.com/TrueBrain/OpenTTD-DorpsGek/blob/cd/docs/continuous_deployment.md
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22:01:07  <Wolf01> 'night
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23:28:21  <TrueBrain> okay, heavily extended the document
23:28:30  <TrueBrain> guess that will have to do :D
23:28:34  <TrueBrain> guess it is a manifesto now :D
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