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If we're talking about using shell to check up on other people's serves, I have no idea. 08:24:04 <Alkel_U3> But yes, should've asked first, assume later :P 08:40:38 *** smoke_fumus has joined #openttd 08:47:15 <Exec> [10:23:21] <Alkel_U3> >If we're talking about using shell to check up on other people's serves, I have no idea. 08:47:21 <Exec> Yup, pretty much that 08:49:19 <Exec> Also, does openttd not have a non-ingame console interface? That ~ key one 08:52:22 *** CTZen has joined #openttd 08:52:32 <CTZen> ppl! 08:52:49 *** CTZen has left #openttd 08:52:53 <LordAro> where? 08:54:00 *** CTZen has joined #openttd 08:54:09 <CTZen> pls tell me reddit s3 ip 08:55:39 *** CTZen has left #openttd 08:55:46 <peter1138> o/ 09:00:37 <TrueBrain> yes, I also always join random IRC channels to ask random facts in life :D 09:01:06 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:16:15 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 09:17:02 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 09:31:47 <LordAro> TrueBrain: and then leave immediately, of course 09:41:08 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 09:47:15 *** imdak has quit IRC 09:59:27 *** OsteHovel has quit IRC 10:00:47 *** smoke_fumus has quit IRC 10:14:26 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 10:20:45 *** tokai|noir has joined #openttd 10:20:45 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai|noir 10:23:03 <andythenorth> o/ 10:23:14 <andythenorth> this channel is mostly greetings 10:23:25 <LordAro> well whose fault is that? 10:26:43 <andythenorth> couldn't say 10:27:14 *** tokai has quit IRC 10:29:06 *** cHawk has joined #openttd 10:34:44 <andythenorth> @seen dorpsgek 10:34:44 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: I have not seen dorpsgek. 10:34:49 <andythenorth> @seen supermop 10:34:50 <DorpsGek> andythenorth: supermop was last seen in #openttd 1 week, 6 days, 17 hours, 7 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: <supermop> i want rich tree biome simulation in openttd 10:42:50 <peter1138> @seen commits 10:42:51 <DorpsGek> peter1138: I have not seen commits. 11:05:14 *** muffindrake2 has quit IRC 11:19:59 <LordAro> ayy 11:35:24 <Eddi|zuHause> anyone remember the time when there was commits? 11:38:26 <planetmaker> \o (continuing the proclaimed trend) ;) 11:40:55 <peter1138> Yeah, there used to be commits. 11:45:05 *** OsteHovel has joined #openttd 11:59:44 *** RafiX2 has joined #openttd 12:00:23 <andythenorth> if a commit falls in a forest 12:00:27 <andythenorth> and nobody is there to hear it 12:01:10 *** RafiX is now known as Guest1382 12:01:10 *** RafiX2 is now known as RafiX 12:06:08 *** Compu has quit IRC 12:06:16 *** Guest1382 has quit IRC 12:08:30 <planetmaker> andythenorth, that poses the question: is the forest real in that case? 12:08:37 <andythenorth> it does 12:09:02 <SpComb> if you commit without ever pushing, does that commit exist? 12:09:42 <planetmaker> it's the same as the talk in the forum's development section then ;) 12:10:21 <Sacro> https://hastebin.com/yuwagotosu.sql 12:10:32 <Sacro> apt-get install nodejs provides openttd, how lovely :D 12:10:43 <andythenorth> ugh development forum 12:10:52 <andythenorth> such a waste of all time for participants :) 12:14:37 <peter1138> Much like our PR list 12:15:26 *** Compu has joined #openttd 12:18:01 <Eddi|zuHause> so, we should shut down the project to prevent everyon from wasting their time on a 20 year old game, which isn't real anyway? 12:18:03 <SpComb> what's wrong with the list of open PRs? 12:20:07 <SpComb> hey, some even have reviews 12:20:28 <SpComb> ...okay, one of them does 12:22:13 <andythenorth> Eddi|zuHause: the project isn't real, how would we shut it ? 12:22:17 <Eddi|zuHause> ok, there's a cat calmly lying next to me, but as soon as i make any move, she will jump up and demand food... 12:22:42 <andythenorth> is this a new type of trolley problem? 12:23:09 <Eddi|zuHause> sure... 12:23:53 <peter1138> Maybe I should dual-boot my home PC again. 12:24:23 <peter1138> Since the last update, the (Hyper-V) VM guest is horribly slow... 12:24:36 <peter1138> And Visual Studio is bloody horrible. 12:24:44 <Eddi|zuHause> spectre? 12:25:16 <andythenorth> virtualbox got horrible too 12:25:58 <peter1138> Well, actually the guest is fine, but graphics perform is terrible. 12:26:20 <peter1138> performance 12:26:34 <Eddi|zuHause> in other news, i finally got a DX11 game to run in wine 12:27:14 <peter1138> Heh 12:27:33 <peter1138> Will it run on a GPU that doesn't support DX11 in Windows? :D 12:28:03 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think so :p 12:28:29 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 12:28:42 <Eddi|zuHause> but i have a Radeon HD 7750, which is just about DX11 capable 12:28:56 <Eddi|zuHause> with the right drivers 12:30:03 <Eddi|zuHause> that card should be about 5 years old now 12:30:46 <peter1138> Is it not? 12:31:12 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't remember 12:32:33 <Arveen> i think that card is from 2011 or 2012 12:32:41 <Eddi|zuHause> "04.04.13" 12:32:52 <Eddi|zuHause> seems to be the date i ordered it 12:33:08 <SpComb> design itself will be older 12:33:34 <Eddi|zuHause> it was the newest generation back then, and something in the lower price range 12:34:25 <Eddi|zuHause> 82€+10€ shipping 12:37:15 <SpComb> wouldn't run crysis at ultra quality 12:38:14 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't think it runs anything at ultra quality :p 12:39:36 <SpComb> tsk, what a bad deal, the 970 GTX that I bought only costs €50-80 12:42:36 <SpComb> hmm, 9 launch price in 2014... what does that get you now, a GTX 1060 I suppose 12:45:31 <Arveen> i got this fancy TVGA 9000 laying around. 9000 > 1060, so i win ? 12:46:10 <peter1138> Tseng Labs ET6000 woo 12:46:11 <SpComb> right, even the 1060 is now two years old 12:46:41 <SpComb> doesn't sound like a goos time to be upgrading graphics cards 12:48:27 <peter1138> Indeed, the bitcoin bollocks made the high end cards unaffordable right when I wanted one :( 12:48:27 <SpComb> the GTX 1070 is still retailing for like €500, way too expensive 12:48:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i once had an ET4000 12:48:41 <peter1138> And now they are back to where they were, just, but 8 months older. 12:49:33 <SpComb> GTX 1070 launched 2016-08 with MSRP 9 12:49:58 <SpComb> am I just looking in the wrong place or what 12:50:22 <peter1138> Yeah, not the US :/ 12:50:56 <Eddi|zuHause> american prices are without VAT and stuff? 12:51:11 <peter1138> That too. 12:51:49 <Eddi|zuHause> my 92€ are 77€ without taxes 12:52:59 <Eddi|zuHause> SpComb: back then i specifically decided to go for the newest generation, as the main reason i wanted a new card was that my old one fell out of driver maintenance, which i felt was pretty short 12:53:52 <Eddi|zuHause> i could have gotten similar-performance-level previous generation for less than that 12:56:34 <peter1138> I "need" a 1080ti for VR. 12:56:43 <peter1138> 670 is a bit pants :p 13:03:45 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:04:42 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 13:11:00 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:11:18 *** sla_ro|master has joined #openttd 13:11:28 <SpComb> ok, helps a little if you can tell the difference between a 1070 and 1070ti, but still slightly above MSPR for a 2016 card 13:12:05 <SpComb> doesn't make any sense at all to upgrade from a 970 I suppose 13:16:30 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 13:19:30 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 13:26:51 <peter1138> Probably not at this time. 13:29:24 <LordAro> things are starting to normalise again though 13:29:26 <LordAro> which is nice 13:29:47 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 13:44:37 *** nielsm has joined #openttd 13:48:40 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 14:07:08 *** sim-al2 has quit IRC 15:05:54 *** RafiX has quit IRC 15:07:18 *** Alberth has joined #openttd 15:07:18 *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alberth 15:25:19 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 15:26:19 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:36:26 *** synchris has joined #openttd 15:43:10 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 15:45:24 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 15:47:19 <Alberth> o/ 16:02:43 <andythenorth> lo Alberth 16:05:12 * andythenorth working on town cargos 16:05:24 <andythenorth> need some kind of insight :P 16:07:30 <Alberth> :o 16:07:58 <Alberth> solar panels, I think 16:08:10 <Alberth> or energy and internet 16:08:14 <andythenorth> lol 16:08:22 <andythenorth> is it meat, dairy, fruit, flour? 16:08:33 <andythenorth> or fresh food, processed food, frozen food? 16:08:44 <andythenorth> or is it food, drink 16:09:27 <Alberth> you don't want too many, unless you want city mayhem :p 16:09:30 <andythenorth> currently there's no rationale for the food-type cargos 16:09:35 <andythenorth> and V453000 will turn up and mock me 16:10:25 <Alberth> not sure how different fresh food vs frozen food is from transport point of view 16:10:40 <Alberth> both are refridgerated I guess? 16:10:47 <Alberth> or could be at least 16:11:23 <Alberth> you already have alcohol, you need more drink ? :p 16:11:47 <andythenorth> I'd change alcohol to drink 16:11:58 <Alberth> I like the 1st one best, not sure about the number of different types 16:12:08 <andythenorth> the refrigeration point is useful 16:12:09 <Alberth> 4 seems so much 16:12:52 <andythenorth> maybe food just is food 16:13:03 <andythenorth> the goods cargos are easy to split up, haven't done that yet 16:13:12 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:16:05 <Alberth> on the other hand, each industry in a town needs a bit of unique cargo I guess 16:16:19 <andythenorth> toys -> toyshop 16:16:30 <andythenorth> household appliances -> electrical shop 16:16:34 <Alberth> :o nice castle :) 16:16:34 <andythenorth> coffee -> starbucks 16:16:53 <andythenorth> household chemicals -> general store 16:17:08 <Alberth> I agree goods make much more sense to make more specific 16:17:09 <andythenorth> furniture -> furniture shop 16:17:25 <andythenorth> I think the nice thing for extreme food is to put in the ingredients 16:17:32 <andythenorth> so sugar beet -> sugar -> food 16:17:44 <andythenorth> grain -> flour -> food etc 16:18:02 <Alberth> no cake shop eh? :) 16:18:17 <andythenorth> well 16:18:19 <andythenorth> dunno :) 16:18:33 <andythenorth> trying to work out how to do meat pies 16:18:49 <andythenorth> meat + flour -> food processer -> food 16:21:53 <andythenorth> potatoes -> chip factory -> food 16:21:58 <Alberth> does that need more? 16:22:08 <andythenorth> edible oil 16:22:27 <Alberth> to chip factory 16:22:49 <Alberth> but it's a weird cargo, perhaps 16:25:27 <andythenorth> I like it :) 16:25:34 <andythenorth> nice colour for tankers 16:29:55 <Rubidium> eggs -> blender -> scrambled eggs ? 16:30:07 <TrueBrain> hmmmm ... now I am hungry 16:30:25 <andythenorth> Rubidium: I forgot eggs :o 16:30:34 <andythenorth> embryo livestock? 16:30:36 <andythenorth> hmm 16:30:41 <andythenorth> maybe I do GMO foods 16:30:47 <andythenorth> and some towns won't accept them 16:31:41 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:31:45 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 16:33:47 <Alberth> :) 16:34:02 <Alberth> :o chicken! 16:34:33 <andythenorth> nuggets 16:34:36 <andythenorth> hmm 16:34:43 <andythenorth> edible oil + eggs = mayo 16:34:47 <andythenorth> need vinegar though 16:35:11 <Rubidium> that's just wine that wasn't processed correctly ;) 16:36:34 <peter1138> o/ 16:37:20 <andythenorth> excess of people with commit rights in the channel :P 16:38:21 <Rubidium> andythenorth: everyone in the channel has commit rights! 16:38:21 <peter1138> Not quite. 16:38:45 <peter1138> Excess of people with ability to merge other people's commits :p 16:40:01 <peter1138> If you see some random guy come along with a load of PRs who seems to understand the code, and doesn't ask any questions here, it's probably an alt account to get around the approval stuff :p 16:41:48 <andythenorth> is it winning us much? 16:50:00 <peter1138> Ah but Minecraft 1.13 is out. 16:52:33 *** Wolf01 has joined #openttd 16:52:39 <Wolf01> o/ 16:58:04 <andythenorth> meh blitz 16:58:09 <andythenorth> ping 60 until red team appears 16:58:12 <andythenorth> then ping 3000 16:58:20 <andythenorth> happens too often to be coincidence 16:58:32 <andythenorth> more like they've messed up 16:58:52 <Wolf01> Because one of red team has shitty connection then everybody adapts 16:59:06 <andythenorth> the packets for 'no tanks' are probably smaller than packets for '6 tanks just appeared' 16:59:25 <andythenorth> but they also had what looked like load issues for much of this year 16:59:37 <LordAro> haha 17:00:05 <andythenorth> I used to code flash games that were fast until you were in hit-detection range of enemy 17:00:07 <andythenorth> then they bogged 17:00:20 <Wolf01> Aaaaand java updater just failed again! 17:00:21 <andythenorth> calculating nothing is faster 17:00:30 <andythenorth> than calculating something 17:00:32 <LordAro> timing attacks are hard 17:05:05 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 17:05:28 <Wolf01> Ragequit 17:08:06 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 17:18:54 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 17:24:18 *** Gja has joined #openttd 17:28:21 <TrueBrain> yippie, my runner works, and I can deploy a simple docker now 17:28:27 <TrueBrain> slowllllyyyyyyyy 17:28:30 <TrueBrain> the weather is NOT helpnig :D 17:30:20 <TrueBrain> and I really need more people to give feedback on what this is becoming .. :) 17:32:00 <nielsm> is it become self-aware? 17:32:17 <TrueBrain> it somewhat is :D 17:33:00 <TrueBrain> in the end, this is going to mean that if you accept a PR on a repository named 'www.openttd.org" target="_blank">www.openttd.org', staging is updated automatically, and with a press of the button, so is the real www.openttd.org" target="_blank">www.openttd.org 17:33:08 <TrueBrain> that should make updates a lot quicker/easier/etc :D 17:33:11 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 17:34:06 <nielsm> evil 17:34:16 <TrueBrain> must-have :) 17:38:48 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 17:51:31 *** glx has joined #openttd 17:51:31 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 17:55:04 *** RafiX has joined #openttd 18:03:16 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:29:07 *** Alberth has left #openttd 18:32:00 *** Thedarkb1 has joined #openttd 18:41:31 *** Thedarkb1 has quit IRC 19:18:39 *** sla_ro|master has quit IRC 20:30:44 *** nielsm has quit IRC 20:37:37 *** aditsu has joined #openttd 20:39:46 <aditsu> hi, I have a problem: big city, atrocious rating, don't have any station and can't build one, and trees don't seem to help (too far from the center I guess), how can I improve the rating? 20:40:48 <aditsu> I thought bribing was disabled, but I guess I don't have enough money 20:41:41 *** synchris has quit IRC 20:45:29 <Eddi|zuHause> the trees only cont on tiles where no tree was before 20:45:39 <Eddi|zuHause> otherwise, the rating slowly improves over time 20:46:34 <Wolf01> 'night 20:46:36 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 20:47:22 <aditsu> Eddi|zuHause: yes.. 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