Log for #openttd on 31st July 2018:
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00:06:21  <Kippers> If the alternative is bots spamming ads, then yeah
00:09:56  <ST2> well, big networks usually are the targets
00:10:50  <ST2> but, they filter by users on channels, far long I've seen
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12:13:02  <Kippers> o/
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14:38:21  <planetmaker> @whoami
14:38:21  <DorpsGek> planetmaker: planetmaker
14:38:26  <planetmaker> hi :)
14:39:54  <Alberth> o/
14:40:08  <Alberth> luckily you are still you :)
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14:42:40  <Thedarkb-T60> Is there a way of logging the chat on my dedicated server?
14:42:57  <Eddi|zuHause> redirect it to a file?
14:43:16  <Thedarkb-T60> I'd rather be able to use the console.
14:43:29  <Eddi|zuHause> tee?
14:43:34  <Eddi|zuHause> use admin port?
14:43:37  <Thedarkb-T60> I suppose
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14:46:02  <andythenorth> o/
14:47:28  <Eddi|zuHause> i don't know if it's the heat or my recent switching of graphics drivers, but i started getting some graphical glitches lately :/
14:49:52  <Thedarkb-T60> There were some allegedly quite abusive players on my server last night, how can I get their IP to ban them.
14:50:50  <Eddi|zuHause> look at the logs?
15:01:26  <Thedarkb-T60> Eddi|zuHause, Where can I find those?
15:03:50  <Eddi|zuHause> same place as the chat logs?
15:04:02  <Thedarkb-T60> Where are the chat logs, Eddi|zuHause ?
15:04:25  <Eddi|zuHause> in your console?
15:04:39  <Thedarkb-T60> Oh, I thought you meant there was a log file.
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15:12:46  <nielsm> there isn't any log-to-file feature?
15:13:34  <Thedarkb-T60> I hope there is.
15:13:41  <Thedarkb-T60> Grepping tmux scrollback is a PITA
15:13:42  <planetmaker> not in-built. That's what you have the admin port
15:14:09  <planetmaker> Connect to it, and log all events which possibly interest you
15:15:02  <Eddi|zuHause> i already suggested "tee"
15:15:17  <planetmaker> yeah, I saw. And it works great, too
15:15:31  <planetmaker> We did use that at coop prior to the invention of the admin port
15:16:38  <nielsm> seems silly to me that you'd need a separate application to save console logs to a file, when it's a standard feature of practically any other server application
15:17:45  <Eddi|zuHause> i guess that is historically grown, as openttd isn't natively a server application, but the server was somewhat tucked onto the existing client application
15:18:37  <LordAro> adding a very basic "also dump all console output to file" wouldn't be the most difficult thing in the world...
15:19:46  <nielsm> (also have the files rotate on either date or size, I'd suggest having a filename like openttd-listenaddr_port-yyyymmdd.log)
15:20:23  <Eddi|zuHause> but that would duplicate the behaviour of existing programs
15:20:40  <Eddi|zuHause> (tee and logrotate)
15:20:57  <LordAro> how well does tee work with stdin?
15:21:00  <LordAro> not well, i suspect
15:21:03  <planetmaker> very well
15:21:10  <planetmaker> as said, worked for a decade for coop
15:21:20  <Eddi|zuHause> tee only works on stdout, it lets stdin alone
15:21:31  <planetmaker> err, yeah :)
15:22:07  <LordAro> oh, ofc
15:22:31  <LordAro> logrotate is a bit tricky if you have file handles held open
15:22:52  <LordAro> the source programs have a tendency to not notice that files have been renamed/deleted
15:22:54  <Eddi|zuHause> need to implement SIGHOP?
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15:23:43  <Eddi|zuHause> that, or the program needs to open/close the file on every write attempt
15:23:51  <Sacro> LordAro: logrotate can hadnle that
15:23:57  <Sacro> Copy file to new, truncate old
15:24:29  <Sacro> copytruncate
15:24:43  <Alberth> aka logrotate?
15:25:10  <Thedarkb-T60> I'll use tee in future
15:25:37  <Thedarkb-T60> My vanilla server won't reset for some reason.
15:25:40  <Thedarkb-T60> How do I do that?
15:25:50  <Thedarkb-T60> I mean, automate it.
15:25:53  <Sacro> | tee ...
15:33:10  <Thedarkb-T60> Sacro, automate resetting the map after 2050?
15:34:26  <Eddi|zuHause> that should be a setting
15:40:44  <Sacro> I dunno, I still use autopilot
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16:49:45  <Eddi|zuHause> i have no clue what i've done, but steam somehow lost its taskbar entry, and i can't get it back :/
16:50:36  <Taede> rightclickt he start menu entry, select pin to taskbar?
16:50:50  <Eddi|zuHause> linux
16:50:58  <Taede> ah
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16:56:37  <Thedarkb-T60> When will the mode +r requirement be lifted?
16:56:41  <Thedarkb-T60> When the spam stops?
16:56:54  <Eddi|zuHause> we tried that
16:56:59  <Eddi|zuHause> then the spam came back
16:58:29  <Thedarkb-T60> It's on Freenode, OFTC, QuakeNet and Rizon
16:58:44  <Thedarkb-T60> I think this spam has the potential to kill IRC.
17:01:34  <LordAro> lol
17:01:35  <LordAro> as if
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17:08:55  <Eddi|zuHause> irc is already on a looong decline...
17:14:52  <andythenorth> hi
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17:49:26  <Wolf01> o/
17:50:19  <andythenorth> hi
17:59:21  <nielsm> does anyone know, did the greek guy give up on his daylength patch, or just decide one of the pre-existing solutions were good enough?
17:59:25  <nielsm> out of curiosity :)
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18:11:23  <Wolf01> I hope he didn't get involved in the fires
18:19:13  <nielsm> hmm his forums profile says he hasn't posted for 7 days
18:19:22  <nielsm> otoh tt-forums isn't that massively active
18:19:32  <nielsm> (any longer?)
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19:08:34  <andythenorth> tt-forums is over
19:08:44  <andythenorth> just waiting for new bananas
19:08:45  <andythenorth> then it can die
19:13:01  <planetmaker> it's good to have forums
19:13:11  <planetmaker> doesn't mean it has to be the place where real work is done :)
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20:17:11  <Alberth> night
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21:27:06  <Wolf01> 'night
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22:10:03  <nielsm> haha, spent waaay too long on this, but got it working!
22:10:24  <nielsm> ms hyper-v doesn't seem to have any sound driver support, so testing sound stuff from linux with it is hard
22:11:02  <nielsm> so now I've managed to set up a loopback alsa device, and recording from that with darkice, streaming to a local icecast server, and then playing that stream on my host
22:11:14  <nielsm> of course there's several seconds delay, but IT WORKS!
22:28:45  <LordAro> good lord
22:28:48  <LordAro> nielsm: bad, stop that
22:29:38  <nielsm> but I can't get the linux build to include libtimidity.cpp in the build ?!
22:32:21  <nielsm> it's adding -DLIBTIMIDITY to CFLAGS and CXXFLAGS, and -ltimidity to LIB
22:32:34  <nielsm> but not music/libtimidity.o to OBJS_CXX
22:32:34  <LordAro> ha
22:32:57  <nielsm> sources.list does look right tho
22:42:52  <nielsm> :(
22:44:38  <LordAro> :(
22:44:55  <nielsm> I probably broke something with music file paths
22:45:01  <nielsm> during all the other music code reworking
22:45:56  <nielsm> so two issues to fix here: 1) build system partially ignoring libtimidity, 2) music file paths are passed wrong
22:46:28  <nielsm> and it's long past bedtime, gn
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