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10:26:37 <Samu> more specifically aircraft engine 10:26:52 <Samu> while I still don't own a vehicle of that engine type 10:35:16 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 10:59:09 <Samu> could we have a keyword filter for savegame file lists? 10:59:16 <Samu> i have tons of saves :( 11:30:16 <Samu> you gave me an excelent idea yesterday LordAro 11:30:29 <Samu> my own customized valuators 11:30:53 <Samu> gonna create another for aircraft speed 11:49:02 <Samu> oh crap, it's already factored in 11:49:58 <Samu> looks like I don't need a custom valuator for aircraft speed, it's already accounted for 11:53:49 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 11:58:11 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 12:32:14 *** KouDy has quit IRC 12:33:51 <Eddi|zuHause> <Wolf01> Nice, there are some games with good discount, I could buy even those to add more to the indecision roulette <-- doesn't help that now you can run windows games from linux steam, so you have an even bigger set of games to choose from :p 12:34:13 <Wolf01> :) 12:34:26 <Wolf01> I have like... 860 games now 12:35:26 <Eddi|zuHause> i've avoided getting any random bundles so far 12:35:40 <Eddi|zuHause> i think i have something around 50 games 12:35:41 <Wolf01> But I can't really find one which is the right one to play now, played a bit men of war:as2, but I'm already bored 12:36:01 <Eddi|zuHause> plus all the old games before steam 12:36:17 <Wolf01> Played minecraft and today it gives me motion sickness :S 12:36:59 <Wolf01> Today I feel I would like to play a slow paced intriguing 2D game 12:37:10 <Wolf01> But... which one? 12:37:29 <Eddi|zuHause> i played a bunch of adventures recently 12:38:14 <Wolf01> Let see what steamdb "I'm feeling lucky" button suggests 12:38:23 <Eddi|zuHause> Deponia, The Whispered World, Silence, Anna's Quest 12:39:02 <Wolf01> Meh, I need to install some games 12:39:42 <Eddi|zuHause> then don't click on this free game: https://store.steampowered.com/app/304390/ :p 12:40:00 <Wolf01> Already in my library :P 12:40:15 <Eddi|zuHause> i made the mistake of clicking on "install" 12:40:43 <Eddi|zuHause> ... and then it said "50GB to download" 12:41:00 <Wolf01> I uninstalled like 60GB of games this weekend (40 only for shadows of mordor) 12:41:22 <Wolf01> Finished games or games I tried but don't like 12:41:33 <Eddi|zuHause> uh, yeah, i think i tried that like 2 times on free weekends, but it was always unplayable 12:42:10 <Wolf01> It seemed nice... but boring after some hours 12:42:36 <Wolf01> Kill orcs, kill orcs' chief, kill more orcs 12:42:36 *** Samu has quit IRC 12:43:29 <Wolf01> So, steamdb suggested one of those hidden objects 12:44:03 <Wolf01> 2d is 2d, slow paced is... there's no movement at all, intriguing depends on the story 12:46:17 <Wolf01> Bah, steamdb now shows my library as private, when it's chearly not as I was browsing it 12:50:14 <Wolf01> I would play mashinky... if only it had more to play with 12:50:37 <Wolf01> As now, it's like the old TTDlx demo 12:51:12 <Wolf01> (I must say it has a lot of interesting features) 13:00:51 <Wolf01> Any tank game which is not WoT and maybe made after 2004? 13:02:34 <Wolf01> The last one I played was this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BattleTanx:_Global_Assault 13:03:06 <nielsm> it's not exactly tanks, but maybe try mechwarrior online if it's still going, at least it's combat in turreted vehicles 13:03:13 <nielsm> team combat* 13:03:33 *** snail_UES_ has joined #openttd 13:04:27 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't really play those tank games 13:06:40 <Wolf01> Eh, there's the online part I don't like much, I could play lost planet 3 if I want mechs, but I HATE the boss battles 13:12:27 *** snail_UES_ has quit IRC 13:19:54 <Wolf01> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1670/Iron_Warriors_T__72_Tank_Command/ I could give it a try 13:23:46 <Eddi|zuHause> sorry, i can't help you with that genre 13:24:06 <Wolf01> The only problem is: will that start on Win10? 13:24:56 <Eddi|zuHause> people demanded steam play (aka wine) for windows to get old XP games to run on win10 13:25:36 <Wolf01> If only XP mode actually worked 13:25:59 <Wolf01> Oh, it works well for other softwares, just not for games 13:26:11 <Wolf01> At all 13:27:11 <Wolf01> Also most of the old games have that odd 2gb ram limit, and you can't start them in any way 13:43:02 <Eddi|zuHause> i've honestly no clue 13:43:21 <Eddi|zuHause> i haven't tried playing games under win10 at all 13:45:03 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 13:47:06 *** ToBeFree has quit IRC 13:48:07 <Eddi|zuHause> anybody have experience on low-level device accessing? i have this SSD which doesn't want to mount. if i attach it, it is detected as a drive, and it gets a device name (/dev/sdg), but i cannot read anything off it 13:50:31 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried hexdump, but it just locks up 13:50:47 <Eddi|zuHause> as in, can't even be "kill -9"ed 13:52:57 <Arveen> tried to DD it with like 10 megabytes of zeros ? 13:53:16 <Arveen> of course this destroys data 13:53:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i don't see how that could work 13:54:38 <Arveen> well just yesterday I had an 100GB SAS SSD which was unable to write partition information during an ESX installation. After zeroing the first 10 megs it worked 13:55:25 <Eddi|zuHause> yes, but i'm unable to READ 13:55:51 *** Samu has joined #openttd 13:57:00 <Arveen> can SMART values be read from the device ? 13:57:48 <Eddi|zuHause> seems to lock up in a similar way 13:58:34 <Arveen> I guess you tried the usual stuff like using another cable/port ? 14:00:41 <Arveen> btw: if smartctl -a freezed you could try hdparm -I as well 14:04:56 <Eddi|zuHause> locks up as well 14:10:17 <Eddi|zuHause> this is the log i get when attaching the disk https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pjj7o4jnk/hzzobw 14:10:19 <Arveen> is that drive yours or a foreign drive ? 14:10:46 <Eddi|zuHause> it's someone else's drive that i have here 14:11:22 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 14:11:45 <Arveen> oh, it's connected via USB ? 14:12:01 <Eddi|zuHause> it's an usb-sata connector 14:12:57 <Eddi|zuHause> i could try hooking up to my internal sata controller 14:13:00 <Arveen> I think i'd try to hook it up directly at a SATA port to see what happens 14:13:19 <Eddi|zuHause> probably my computer dying in the process :p 14:13:24 <Arveen> hehe 14:13:55 <Eddi|zuHause> i have the (tiny) computer here that the drive is from, but i have no HDMI cable to connect it to a monitor 14:14:08 <Arveen> some time ago i had some issues with an USB disk connected to a USB3 port, USB2 worked fine 14:14:09 <Eddi|zuHause> maybe i find a VGA cable 14:14:39 <Eddi|zuHause> no, it's unlikely to be the controller's fault, but it might hide some lowlevel debugging information from me 14:14:56 <Arveen> yes 14:15:22 <Samu> 207, 335 14:19:16 *** KouDy has quit IRC 14:29:01 *** Wormnest has joined #openttd 15:02:44 <Eddi|zuHause> so... i started a rescue system on the other pc. but switching screens all the time is annoying 15:03:17 <Eddi|zuHause> i tried starting sshd, which it happily does, but i can't log in because there's no password set 15:03:25 <Eddi|zuHause> and i have no clue how to set one 15:03:57 <eirc> passwd 15:06:31 <LordAro> peter1138: you should stop oneupping me 15:07:22 <Eddi|zuHause> anyway, log from rescue system boot: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pdkw56eme/il1hih 15:12:43 <Eddi|zuHause> # hdparm -I /dev/sda 15:12:45 <Eddi|zuHause> /dev/sda: HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Input/output error 15:16:04 <Eddi|zuHause> smartctl: https://paste.openttdcoop.org/pazxy6oik/l5yqrf 15:16:55 <Eddi|zuHause> (as far as i can see, this is complete nonsense) 15:25:46 <peter1138> I reckon it's probably fucked. 15:27:14 <Eddi|zuHause> you're leaning quite far out the window there 15:35:00 <Eddi|zuHause> next problem is, it's some kind of internal OEM serial number that doesn't seem to be covered by the manufacturer warranty 15:35:46 <Eddi|zuHause> so to get a replacement i'd have to go over the PC assembler, which i have no clue who that even was, nor do i have any purchase information 15:40:13 *** GroovyNoodle has joined #openttd 15:42:29 <GroovyNoodle> Hey guys! How do I make my server load a scenario with specific height/width? How do I add it to the config? And what should I put in map_x and map_y to get the measurements I want? 15:42:52 <GroovyNoodle> All scenario files are of course transfered to the computer hosting the server 15:45:17 *** Progman has joined #openttd 15:45:58 <GroovyNoodle> Okay, figured out the map_x/y. But I can't figure out how to load the specific scenario 15:46:44 <Eddi|zuHause> map_x/y are ignored when loading a scenario, it already stores its own values for that 15:47:13 <Eddi|zuHause> load the scenario the same way you would load a savegame, i think 15:47:30 <Eddi|zuHause> i.e. with the "-g" command line option, or the "load" command from the console 15:58:04 *** Thedarkb-X40 has joined #openttd 15:59:08 <GroovyNoodle> Thank you! It works now :) 16:01:12 *** Flygon has quit IRC 16:05:12 *** andythenorth has joined #openttd 16:05:22 <andythenorth> o/ 16:08:40 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 16:08:43 *** andythenorth has quit IRC 16:14:59 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:15:02 *** andythenorth_ has joined #openttd 16:15:14 *** HerzogDeXtEr has joined #openttd 16:16:51 *** andythenorth_ has quit IRC 16:51:29 <Samu> i'm making up a new distance ! 16:51:34 <Samu> function WrightAI::SubLocationDistanceManhattan(t0, t1) 16:51:39 <Samu> lol 16:53:07 <Samu> but I still need to figure out something 16:54:04 <Samu> need to fake the distance on horizontal/vertical, the non-axis 16:58:02 <Samu> the aircraft needs to run through 16 sublocations on a tile while going Axis direction, but only needs to run through 8 sublocations on non-axis 16:58:36 <Samu> on axis, the aircraft goes at full speed, on non-axis it goes at 3/4 speed 17:30:34 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 17:30:40 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 17:49:41 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 17:53:55 *** iSoSyS has joined #openttd 17:58:15 *** frosch123 has joined #openttd 18:05:23 *** Gja has joined #openttd 18:05:23 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 18:06:22 *** tokai has joined #openttd 18:06:22 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tokai 18:07:27 *** Wacko1976 has joined #openttd 18:10:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 18:13:22 *** tokai|noir has quit IRC 18:22:08 <Samu> I figured how to calculate the real fake distance 18:22:41 <peter1138> real fake? 18:24:54 <Samu> it's something like this https://paste.openttdcoop.org/piwcihsrz 18:27:07 *** KouDy has quit IRC 18:27:12 <Samu> aircraft got a slower speed while going non-axis direction, but the subdistance they got to run on non-axis distance is half of that of an axis distance 18:27:47 <Samu> this returns the real fake distance that the aircraft will run, at least I hope it does 18:28:43 <Samu> axis = 16 sublocations 18:28:53 <Samu> non-axis = 8 sublocations 18:29:24 <Samu> speed at axis = full 18:29:38 <Samu> speed at non-axis = 3/4 of "full" 18:30:12 <Samu> gotta put it to use 18:30:34 <Samu> should be useful to compute the ideal number of aircraft for a route 18:30:54 <Samu> I use this real fake distance instead 18:31:16 <Samu> meh, I'm talking alone :( 18:33:15 <Samu> speaking of real fake, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kcxdgA90Hk 18:39:07 *** Stimrol has quit IRC 18:39:46 *** Gja has quit IRC 18:40:33 *** Stimrol has joined #openttd 18:46:59 *** gelignite has joined #openttd 18:58:44 *** glx has joined #openttd 18:58:44 *** ChanServ sets mode: +v glx 19:00:50 <Samu> that return was bad 19:06:03 <Samu> Wormnest: how did you deal with the distances? 19:06:11 <Samu> https://imgur.com/AOYPlZi 19:06:23 <Samu> just noticed distancemanhattan can actually be higher than the aircraft range 19:07:58 <Samu> let me get the tiles coordinates 19:08:06 <Wormnest> Can´t remember exactly but I think I just make a rough guess 19:08:30 <Wormnest> But you can always look up the source of WormAI ;) 19:08:34 <Samu> (89, 29) and (44, 251) 19:11:00 *** Mazur has quit IRC 19:11:12 *** APTX| has joined #openttd 19:11:34 *** APTX has quit IRC 19:13:37 <Samu> @calc (251-29)-(89-44)*48/4 + (89-44)*48/3 19:13:37 <DorpsGek> Samu: 402 19:13:46 <Samu> uh? :( 19:14:23 <Samu> seems wrong 19:15:48 <Samu> @calc (251-29-89-44)*48/4 + (89-44)*48/3 19:15:49 <DorpsGek> Samu: 1788 19:16:08 <Samu> something is wrong grr damn me 19:19:07 *** ToBeFree has joined #openttd 19:19:50 *** Mazur has joined #openttd 19:25:04 <Samu> @calc (89*48)/4 + (45*48)/3 19:25:05 <DorpsGek> Samu: 1788 19:25:44 <Samu> why am I getting 2844 :( 19:26:56 *** stefino has joined #openttd 19:41:06 *** iSoSyS has quit IRC 19:47:29 *** stefino has quit IRC 19:54:31 *** gelignite has quit IRC 19:57:25 <Wolf01> So, what could I play now? I finished the hidden object game before dinner :P 20:02:58 *** Lithium has joined #openttd 20:10:58 *** techmagus has quit IRC 20:12:13 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 20:15:15 <peter1138> Minecraft. 20:17:06 <Wolf01> Nah, I have easily motion sickness today, so Im trying to avoid 3D games 20:17:40 <Wolf01> Or at least first person games 20:18:27 <Wolf01> Does the factorio demo allow multiplayer? I would like to show a friend how to play 20:28:41 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 20:39:20 *** HerzogDeXtEr has quit IRC 20:39:55 *** KouDy has quit IRC 20:41:26 <Samu> @calc (251-29)-(89-44) 20:41:27 <DorpsGek> Samu: 177 20:41:37 <Samu> @calc (251-29-89-44) 20:41:37 <DorpsGek> Samu: 89 20:43:13 <Samu> @calc 222-45 20:43:13 <DorpsGek> Samu: 177 20:43:21 <Samu> oh really? .... 20:43:39 <Samu> so the mistake I made was here :( code was correct 20:44:13 <Samu> @calc (177*48)/4 + (45*48)/3 20:44:13 <DorpsGek> Samu: 2844 20:44:25 <Samu> there.... 2844 20:44:29 <glx> @calc 251-29-89+44 20:44:29 <DorpsGek> glx: 177 20:44:49 <glx> - and - makes + 20:47:34 <Wolf01> Math... 21:03:59 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 21:04:20 *** Supercheese has joined #openttd 21:04:32 <Samu> i think i can change that 48 to 12 21:05:09 <Samu> gives me smaller numbers, and still all without comma 21:09:18 <Samu> can even make it shorter 21:09:33 <Samu> 12/4 = 3, 12/3 = 4 21:10:30 <Samu> return dx > dy ? (dx - dy) * 3 + dy * 4 : (dy - dx) * 3 + dx * 4; 21:17:52 <Samu> @calc ((251-29)-(89-44))*48/4 + (89-44)*48/3 21:17:52 <DorpsGek> Samu: 2844 21:18:57 <Samu> @calc ((251-29)-(89-44))*3 + (89-44)*4 21:18:58 <DorpsGek> Samu: 711 21:23:54 <Samu> @calc ((50-0)-(0-0))*3 + (0-0)*4 21:23:54 <DorpsGek> Samu: 150 21:26:08 <Samu> @calc ((37.5-0)-(37.5-0))*3 + (37.5-0)*4 21:26:08 <DorpsGek> Samu: 150 21:26:18 <Samu> success! 21:28:01 <Samu> fake real distance is the same, no matter if going axis or non-axis, just what I wanted 21:29:07 *** KouDy has quit IRC 21:43:48 *** Progman has quit IRC 21:48:41 <Eddi|zuHause> <Wolf01> Does the factorio demo allow multiplayer? <-- i find that somewhat unlikely 21:54:18 *** Gustavo6046 has joined #openttd 21:55:08 *** frosch123 has quit IRC 22:11:28 <Samu> https://imgur.com/pAMHSEu 22:11:52 <Samu> there's really no correlation between them :( 22:32:45 *** Wacko1976 has quit IRC 22:33:14 <Samu> i still dont know what to call this function, a decent name 22:33:17 <Samu> DistanceRealFake 22:33:21 <Samu> sounds dumb 22:33:25 <Samu> any suggestions? 22:36:15 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 22:41:09 <acklen> TrumpianDistance() 22:42:09 *** Wolf01 has quit IRC 22:42:54 *** KouDy has quit IRC 22:43:05 *** Wormnest has quit IRC 22:45:36 <Samu> hehe 22:46:15 *** KouDy has joined #openttd 22:48:18 *** nielsm has quit IRC 22:53:29 *** KouDy has quit IRC 23:01:57 *** GroovyNoodle has quit IRC 23:24:33 *** Arveen2 has joined #openttd 23:26:03 *** techmagus has quit IRC 23:26:06 *** techmagus has joined #openttd 23:30:57 *** Arveen has quit IRC