Log for #openttd on 15th October 2018:
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13:41:43  <Samu> hi
13:42:25  <dihedral> hey ho
13:42:42  <Xaroth> o7
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14:44:04  <Alberth> hola
14:47:52  <planetmaker> aloha :)
14:48:12  <planetmaker> <-- anyone can answer my question? :D
14:48:27  <planetmaker> nml version detection is somewhat broken and I want it more pretty than calling git n times
14:49:51  <Eddi|zuHause> i'm fairly sure there's a git module in python so you don't have to mess with command line
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14:50:17  <planetmaker> I know there is. Not sure I want to include that there, though
14:50:47  <planetmaker> (it's described in the link I provided there)
14:52:25  <Eddi|zuHause> so then you have two ways to go, neither one of which you like?
14:52:51  <Eddi|zuHause> not sure i can help with that :p
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14:53:19  <planetmaker> :D maybe.
14:59:24  <Alberth> " One common usage of git rev-parse is to print the SHA1 hashes given a revision specifier. In addition, it has various options to format this output such as --short for printing a shorter unique SHA1 "  ?
14:59:40  <Alberth> ie the second post in your link
15:02:00  <planetmaker> yeah, maybe that can be utilized to shorten the stuff a lot
15:02:12  <Alberth> except revision is less than useless to describe the content of the repo
15:02:33  <planetmaker> it's just a meaningless name.
15:03:07  <planetmaker> git show HEAD --pretty='%h8 "%at"' or so gives me hash and commit time
15:03:18  <Alberth> arguably,  head^1  or so isn't much better
15:20:36  <planetmaker> perhaps sth like "git describe HEAD" is a good choice. In connection with the date or so
15:21:01  <planetmaker> "git describe --tags" I mean.
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15:24:42  <planetmaker> 0.4.5-1-gc95db24a is actually a decent version for me. It contains the hash for identification. And the distance to the last tag
15:25:38  <planetmaker> And the last tag itself
15:27:19  <Alberth> yep, seems useful
15:35:46  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: while you're here, do you have any idea how devzone compiles work? because last time i tried it seemed to have problems "building" eddi-nml, and it couldn't use that to build CETS
15:36:38  <Eddi|zuHause> (everything works locally)
15:37:14  <Eddi|zuHause> (i never tried "building" nml, i just run it)
15:37:41  <Eddi|zuHause> (and i never changed anything build-related)
15:38:13  <planetmaker> well, yes... did it have problems with eddi-nml itself? Or with using it on a project?
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15:39:35  <Eddi|zuHause> both, i think
15:39:57  <Eddi|zuHause> but i don't know whether one depended on the other or they are unrelated problems
15:40:00  <Alberth> the former probably defeats the latter :)
15:42:35  <Eddi|zuHause> in CETS: 13:12:49 nmlc: error: no such option: --verbosity ( seems to suggest it runs an outdated version of nmlc
15:43:44  <Eddi|zuHause> and i can't make any sense of ... it tries to run some pythonw.exe stuff to make an archive or something
15:49:37  <planetmaker> <-- @Alberth, what do you think?
15:50:19  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, hm, yes, it tries to build a windoze binary... that's where the pythonw comes from
15:50:37  <planetmaker> all nicely using a python3.2 or so started in a somewhat ancient wine
15:50:50  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: but there should be no difference to regular nml in that regard
15:51:17  <Alberth> shouldn't there a abspath in line 51 ?
15:52:42  <Alberth> line 62, do line counting in python
15:53:05  <planetmaker> not as far as I know. It's verbatim copy from the existing version detection in line 51...55
15:53:21  <Eddi|zuHause> "# we want to return to where we were. So save the old path" <-- that comment doesn't match any surrounding code
15:53:39  <Alberth> version.split('-')) == 1        "-" not in version   right?
15:54:15  <planetmaker> right
15:54:29  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, also correct. Bitrot also in the hg version it seems
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15:56:34  <Alberth> "-" is pretty fragile, probably, for branch names like "branch-2" or "new-feature"
15:57:24  <Eddi|zuHause> but that would just add more split segments?
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15:59:22  <Eddi|zuHause> so effectively that means tags containing "-" don't count as "release"?
16:00:30  <planetmaker> hm, yes
16:04:15  <Alberth> you don't assign version there?
16:04:42  <Alberth> except for ''
16:05:08  <planetmaker> line 78 and 80
16:05:35  <Eddi|zuHause> you only assign version_list before line 68
16:05:44  <Eddi|zuHause> but try to use version there
16:06:04  <Alberth> test is at 68
16:06:19  <planetmaker> oh, yes
16:06:21  <Eddi|zuHause> version_list in line 56
16:07:09  <Eddi|zuHause> how does "git describe" work? i can't get useful output on openttd trunk
16:07:30  <Eddi|zuHause> > git describe
16:07:32  <Eddi|zuHause> fatal: Keine Tags k├Ânnen 'fbfa4eb5920b10f57b9fc72730206f4a05c3638d' beschreiben.
16:07:33  <Eddi|zuHause> Versuchen Sie --always oder erstellen Sie einige Tags.
16:07:58  <Alberth> you didn't check out a branch?
16:08:25  <Eddi|zuHause> says i'm on branch master
16:09:43  <planetmaker> checking for a release probably can also be done by checking for "-g" in position -10:-9 in the version string. That's more reliable and present when it's not a tag as it's part of the hash
16:10:11  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, git describe --tags
16:10:21  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: same
16:10:32  <planetmaker> might not work w/o tags
16:10:43  <Eddi|zuHause> does openttd trunk not contain any tags
16:11:04  <planetmaker> aye
16:11:14  <planetmaker> bad :)
16:11:32  <planetmaker> thus needs different version detection
16:11:35  <Eddi|zuHause> well, probably only in some branches
16:12:01  <Alberth> it's a converted svn repo, eh :)
16:12:30  <Eddi|zuHause> well "git tag" is definitely not empty :p
16:12:31  <Alberth> git tag should tell you
16:13:06  <Alberth> no tag at or above fbfa4eb5920b10f57b9fc72730206f4a05c3638d probably
16:13:17  <planetmaker> no tag in its history
16:13:26  <planetmaker> all tags are in branches which are not ancestors
16:13:33  <planetmaker> hm
16:14:01  <planetmaker> so it's a good question... do we want such versioning in NML :)
16:15:01  <planetmaker> would mean to tag a new release for a branch. and to make a new commit on master which then is called "0.6.0-dev" or so (if you just made the 0.5.0 tag on master which then branches off)
16:15:12  <Eddi|zuHause> seems prone to break once you have diverging and re-merging through pull requests and stuff
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16:39:20  <planetmaker> that needs research :)
16:44:46  <Eddi|zuHause> planetmaker: think your version patch could benefit from setting "LC_ALL=C"?
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16:58:17  <planetmaker> Eddi|zuHause, that as well, yes!
17:00:34  <planetmaker> thank you you two for your valuable inputs. I'll need to rewrite and re-think some parts... and learn more git :)
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17:20:19  <Wolf01> o/
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17:37:07  <Alberth> o/
17:40:09  <andythenorth> yo
17:40:11  <andythenorth> etc
17:55:00  <Wolf01> o/
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18:01:16  <Wolf01> Quak
18:03:23  <frosch123> moo
18:03:56  <frosch123> planetmaker: you could also copy ottd's
18:04:19  <frosch123> it does branches, tags, and stuff
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18:11:09  <andythenorth> stuff
18:11:11  <andythenorth> things
18:11:16  <Wolf01> Tanks
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18:12:28  <planetmaker> frosch123, hm, that actually might be the simpliest idea :)
18:14:30  <andythenorth> I stopped tanks
18:14:34  <andythenorth> for a bit
18:15:16  <nielsm> speaking of, isn't there a make target to just produce the "static" version data file?
18:15:24  <frosch123> planetmaker: example output: 20181011-pr6939-g2e16bfddM      20181011        2       2e16bfdd936a5d6c73b8ced18c0f8d8d30751ea5
18:15:34  <andythenorth> Wolf01: I am working on this a bit
18:15:38  <andythenorth> it's a lot more done
18:15:43  <nielsm> I don't have any git tools available in my windows build env, but I have a wsl bash open constantly
18:15:51  <nielsm> and basically need to run manually
18:17:15  <frosch123> nielsm: i think that magic is baked into the compile farm
18:17:22  <frosch123> possibly the old compile farm only :p
18:17:53  <planetmaker> apropos... old CF. Old code: is there anywhere the stuff which is not OpenTTD, but the extras like master server, osie and alike?
18:18:22  <frosch123> it's still in svn
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18:18:34  <planetmaker> which is... not exactly accessible :)
18:18:36  <frosch123> and on some trello :)
18:18:54  <frosch123> planetmaker: svn://
18:18:55  <frosch123> or similar
18:19:08  <planetmaker> oho. I didn't know that URL
18:19:38  <andythenorth> there is also the list
18:20:07  <andythenorth> and I linked the trello list
18:21:54  <andythenorth> Wolf01: more done
18:24:02  <Wolf01> Nice, it's big
18:28:30  <andythenorth> can anyone repro that this errors?
18:28:34  <andythenorth> I'm logged in on the coop account
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18:58:53  <planetmaker> hmpf... :|
18:59:23  <planetmaker> $ git -C /home/planetmaker/ottd/grfdev/nml update-index --refresh -q
18:59:23  <planetmaker> nml/ needs update
18:59:23  <planetmaker> (py36) planetmaker@aeolusmaximus-vortex:~$ echo $?
18:59:23  <planetmaker> 1
19:00:22  <planetmaker> so why is that command there in, when it actually may fail and not do a thing (in OpenTTD it misses the -q flag which lets it continue anyway)
19:00:37  <planetmaker> but even then... it returns a non-0 exit status
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20:15:32  <planetmaker> should be a version which now does the same thing as OpenTTD's
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20:19:19  <frosch123> get_child_output("git -C {} update-index --refresh".format(path).split(), env=env) <- ["git", "-C", path, "update-index", "--refresh"] is easier imo
20:19:25  <frosch123> it also works with spaces in paths
20:22:44  <frosch123> i think instead of the try-except you can also pass "check=False" to subprocess.
20:22:46  <frosch123> but not sure
20:24:50  <frosch123> hmm, i did not finish the nml docker thing, i guess
20:27:35  <planetmaker> hm, right, spaces in paths :|
20:27:55  <planetmaker> I didn't like to write every word quoted :D
20:32:20  <planetmaker> try...except is ok for python, I think
20:40:01  <planetmaker> has the check=... argument. But that's python 3.5+. In my understanding subprocess.check_output is python 3.1+
20:40:10  <planetmaker> But that lacks the check argument
20:41:44  <frosch123> oh, new stuff, never mnid then :)
20:42:47  <planetmaker> actually, my use of the subprocess.DEVNULL constant raises the minimum requirement to 3.3 (instead of 3.2 which is is currently, IIRC)
20:43:03  <planetmaker> I might want to circumvent using that constant, too
20:51:54  <planetmaker> gotta play with pull requests, thus created one:
20:57:48  <frosch123> planetmaker: you did the default mistake :)
20:58:16  <frosch123> never create a pr from your "master"
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20:58:41  <frosch123> after merge openttd's master will differ from your master, so you have to do some git magic to repoint your master to the real one
20:59:03  <frosch123> with github: do everything in a custom branch, never commit to master
20:59:04  <planetmaker> ah, bah
20:59:37  <planetmaker> time to find out how to rectify this default mistake :)
21:00:13  <frosch123> i guess it's easier after merge
21:00:32  <frosch123> otherwise you have a pr to a no longer existing branch, which makes more trouble :p
21:01:04  <planetmaker> I'd create a new PR for that sake
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21:04:34  <andythenorth> branches for all :)
21:04:37  <andythenorth> no charge
21:04:48  <frosch123> did your fix your hg checkout? :p
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21:06:20  <planetmaker> my hg checkout?
21:06:56  <frosch123> nah, i was just mocking andy
21:10:57  <andythenorth> I deleted it and cloned again
21:11:01  <andythenorth> never use hg branches
21:11:04  <andythenorth> never use hg up
21:12:16  <planetmaker> nothing wrong with either. But don't use *named* hg branches liberally
21:13:03  <andythenorth> just for info (I did check the docs)
21:13:17  <andythenorth> the correct way to checkout a tag is 'hg up [tag name]'?
21:14:19  <planetmaker> yes
21:14:40  <planetmaker> but it doesn't mean you end-up with an unmodified version, if you had a modified one
21:14:50  <planetmaker> add a hg revert --all before or after you do it
21:15:38  <planetmaker> (updating doesn't undo any changes you made to the previous version - it simply merges them to the new one)
21:15:40  <andythenorth> in my experience, if there are uncommitted local changes, hg up [tag] fails with an unrecoverable merge
21:15:40  <andythenorth> which I did fix the first time by editing things in .hg
21:15:40  <andythenorth> but now I just delete the repo
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21:16:49  <andythenorth> yeah, that's what catches me out
21:16:49  <andythenorth> I expect to move to a place on the tree, not merge
21:17:09  <andythenorth> one day, git for newgrfs :P
21:18:04  <andythenorth> but no editing history, no interactive rebase, and no force push :P
21:18:28  * andythenorth has simple needs ?P
21:21:16  <andythenorth> also bed
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21:21:56  <planetmaker> never ever edit "things" in .hg...
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22:35:17  <Eddi|zuHause> <andythenorth> in my experience, if there are uncommitted local changes, hg up [tag] fails with an unrecoverable merge <-- i would have assumed one could simply abort a merge... but why would it start a merge in the first place? merge with what?
22:35:55  <planetmaker> merge might be an unconvenient term here. hg simply keeps changes in the working dir, no matter what revision you changeout
22:36:24  <Eddi|zuHause> so a revert --all would have done that...
22:36:27  <planetmaker> yet with active changes, when updating, the algorithm employed is that of a merge. Yet... there is no merge performed in any terms of VCS
22:36:30  <planetmaker> Exactly!
22:36:39  <planetmaker> a hg revert --all will always rescue you
22:36:46  <Eddi|zuHause> i just don't understand andy, then...
22:36:52  <planetmaker> if necessary update after that anew. And done
22:37:20  <Eddi|zuHause> i have successfully employed hg branches an never had any problems...
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22:38:06  <planetmaker> I've done A LOT of things in hg repos... and never had to throw away my repo just for the sake of updating accross branches or alike
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